Doktor_Zhivago: AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN CAUSE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE**except fot secret courts and extrajudicial killing and sweeping domestic surveillance programs
Lost Thought 00: Doktor_Zhivago: AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN CAUSE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE**except fot secret courts and extrajudicial killing and sweeping domestic surveillance programsSo secret you only learn everything they do via public media outlets.
NutWrench: Why do they keep calling that rubber-stamp office a "court?"
MFAWG: Does anybody really think we should go back to the old way of doing it? That's where Hoover and the Fibbies wiretapped without any kind of judicial oversight and then just framed you up based on what they they thought they should have found.
doc_roswell: I really should find a Jim Nabors "SURPISE!" gif sometime.
Skleenar: NutWrench: Why do they keep calling that rubber-stamp office a "court?"Because it's not a rubber-stamp office.(just the first example I found in a google search)I mean, half of the stories that people get outraged about ARE stories because they are stories about the FISA court calling BS on what the NSA (or others) is doing.Don't get me wrong, it's not like I think FISA is perfect, and I believe that intelligence agencies take advantage of the limited resources of FISA to get around the letter or spirit of the law. And I am sure they have made decisions that I disagree with. But at least it EXISTS.And at least the current POTUS hasn't decided that he doesn't even need to clear his spying programs with them.(That we know of).
whistleridge: You know, if Congressional Republicans are really that desperate to find something - anything - to defund to save face, here is one thing I'd be absolutely fine letting go of...
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