ramblinwreck: No one tolerates rape and it sure as hell isn't encouraged or ignored
Desmo: "By virtually every measure, we're a safer, nicer, kinder country."No.We're surrounded by more self-centered, inept, narcissistic, assholes than ever before.
profplump: robohobo: I agree we're coarser than I've seen in my 35 yearsBy a static, 35-year-old definition of "coarse" it probably is. But that doesn't mean anything.For example, I think it's rude to interrupt an in-person conversation to answer the phone. My grandmother thinks it's rude not to (but somehow also thinks call waiting is rude; apparently only the first caller gets interruption rights). From my point of view her old-fashion behavior is "coarser" than mine.But it's silly to argue about such things because there's no absolute scale. Occasionally our expectations of others are based on actual moral precepts (e.g. no killing), but mostly it's just about expecting people to match the sort of behavior you learned when you were young. Deviations from your expectations are seen as "coarse" even if you don't have any particular value or moral to support your expectation, and the people you think are "coarse" may well be making the same judgement about you.
kxs401: The idea that society is somehow worse now than it's ever been is ridiculous. We've never been safer, healthier, longer-lived, or less bigoted. Things aren't perfect, but they're pretty damn good.
cryinoutloud: Yeah_Right: There have always been narcissists - but prior to the internet, they were generally referred to as 'that; uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, cousin, etc...' and generally ignored by their social circle before. Now they have the means to broadcast their narcissistic tendencies to a multitude of people - so it just seems like there are more of them.I actually think there's more of them now. Our culture encourages it, and advertising has a much bigger effect on us than most of us realize. Because we're all "worth it" you know--we should all have everything we want, damn the consequences. We also encourage this idea today that everyone is special and unique and no matter what kind of person they are, they're still worthy of respect. Well, ya know--some people actually need to be smacked and told to have some goddamn respect for others.I have a whole farking book about this subject in my head, so don't get me started.
Yeah_Right: There have always been narcissists - but prior to the internet, they were generally referred to as 'that; uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, cousin, etc...' and generally ignored by their social circle before. Now they have the means to broadcast their narcissistic tendencies to a multitude of people - so it just seems like there are more of them.
shtychkn: While values and morals are unique to the individual. There are still social norms that we share.
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Get Scalia his fainting couch. Then explain to Annie Lennox why this[blu.stb.s-msn.com image 598x398]is just a fancy dress version of [img.fark.net image 500x265]
Resident Muslim: We are becoming ridiculous as a society; more coarser language, more people taking offense. More sexual education, not much effect in teen pregnancy. More sexual acceptance, more people on the sex offender list. More ways to hook up, more people staying at home on weekends, finding sexual release on the Internet and passing the time with TV or other stuff. More encouragement for sexual expression, more mocking for people who do. And so on...We have become such a contradiction going against natural human emotions claiming that they have been forced on us by society, then wondering why things don't happen the way we planned once the 'shackles' have been taken off./2cents
robohobo: Alphax: Things are better these days, aside from crazy people shutting down the government and trying to turn back women's rights by a few centuries.Also assholes who feel the need to dirty every thread with politics.
robohobo: I agree we're coarser than I've seen in my 35 years
dai the flu: I don't mind swearing. I swear a lot. I hear other people swear a lot. Try it, it's very relieving.What I find really jarring is when people just swear for the sake of having other people hear them swear:"I was just, farkin', goin' through the farkin' drivethrough, 'cos I, farkin', wanted some farkin' food. fark."It doesn't deliver anything of meaning, it just makes everyone around you that little bit stupider.
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