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(WWL)   Referee tries to eject cop working sideline security, with predictable results   (wwl.com) divider line 130
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2013-10-11 11:17:17 PM  
By most football rulebooks, the referee is responsible for the safe playing of the game on all parts of the playing field and other delineated areas (the sideline, coach's boxes, and so forth).

If the referees felt these police officers were interfering with the safe play of the game, the rules allow them to eject the police officers. (The law probably does not, but in that case, the referees should suspend the playing of the game until they feel it can proceed safely.)
 
2013-10-11 11:41:44 PM  
What may be interesting is if the police were there as a paid detail.
 
2013-10-11 11:43:41 PM  
Petty tyrants piss me off. So really, in a fight between refs and cops, I'd have to root for a scoreless tie with lots of casualties.
 
2013-10-12 12:21:45 AM  
Unfortunately the link is blocked for me at work, so without anything further to go on I'll agree with this:


Buzzerguy: By most football rulebooks, the referee is responsible for the safe playing of the game on all parts of the playing field and other delineated areas (the sideline, coach's boxes, and so forth).

If the referees felt these police officers were interfering with the safe play of the game, the rules allow them to eject the police officers. (The law probably does not, but in that case, the referees should suspend the playing of the game until they feel it can proceed safely.)

 
2013-10-12 12:57:00 AM  
Unless a crime is being committed, the refs own that field.

But so long as the cops aren't actually on the field, refs need to stop telling them how to do their job.
 
2013-10-12 01:13:23 AM  
The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'

Yeeah, that might work on a player but it's pretty dumb to try it on a cop.
 
2013-10-12 01:20:14 AM  
"Well, a referee asked a police officer to move some people back.  The police officer moved them back.  Another referee came up to the police officer and told him, 'that's not far enough.'  The police officer explained....would you please handle the game, referee the game, and we will handle the crowd for you. The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'  And the police officer said, 'excuse me sir, just referee the game, and we'll handle the crowd.'  And he says 'no, get out.  Get out now.'

The ref got a little power rush and it excited him.
 
2013-10-12 01:33:33 AM  
Another instance where someone lets their civility slide, and finds out that you can't argue with a gun.
 
2013-10-12 01:33:51 AM  
Never bring a flag to a gunfight.
 
2013-10-12 01:34:15 AM  
So what was the public intimidation? Standing nose to nose?
 
2013-10-12 01:35:57 AM  

Buzzerguy: By most football rulebooks, the referee is responsible for the safe playing of the game on all parts of the playing field and other delineated areas (the sideline, coach's boxes, and so forth).

If the referees felt these police officers were interfering with the safe play of the game, the rules allow them to eject the police officers. (The law probably does not, but in that case, the referees should suspend the playing of the game until they feel it can proceed safely.)


I agree. I have no doubt that local cops would try to manipulate the crowd to give the home team an unfair advantage. However, you are correct that the right answer isn't to "eject" the cops. The right answer is to simply suspend play. If the cops refuse to cooperate, call the game.
 
2013-10-12 01:37:08 AM  
So 2 cops ruin a game. The refs where right. They are ultimately in control of the game.
 
2013-10-12 01:40:20 AM  
I am honestly surprised the cops did not tase the ref and claim they did it as they were threatened with unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
 
2013-10-12 01:42:58 AM  
High school football. Serious business.
 
2013-10-12 01:44:04 AM  
Predictable results would have been: Cop uses radio to "Summon Death Squad" and a horrific and bloody scene would result with at least 5 innocent bystanders executed along with the guy who has the camera.
 
2013-10-12 01:52:28 AM  
Coach!  Ya wanna be called 'Down by Contact'?```
 
2013-10-12 01:53:52 AM  

Krieghund: So what was the public intimidation? Standing nose to nose?


I find it interesting that the supposed conversation reads like the cops are straight out of an english butler's school.

Totally bullshiat version of what was said and how it was said.
 
2013-10-12 01:54:58 AM  
Wanna be thugs always trump just get along and let's finish this game we all came to enjoy. Badge and gun equals fark you, I'm gonna kick your ass and get away with it.
 
2013-10-12 02:03:01 AM  

mediablitz: Totally bullshiat version of what was said and how it was said.


sweet. I was wondering what really happened.

so what was actually said and how was it actually said?
 
2013-10-12 02:05:01 AM  
Referees to the cops: "Badges? We don't got no badges. I don't have to show you any badges. WE DON'T NEED ANY STINKING BADGES!"
 
2013-10-12 02:05:57 AM  
Trying to come up with snark here, but all I can say is football and tough guy cops both suck balls. Football is irrelevant to real life, and the fact that cops who were paid to make sure an irrelevancy was PLAYED safely get to arrest those in charge of a game being PLAYED safely for trying to make it safe make it suck even bigger balls than any other irrelevancy.

Thank gads Mt Rushmoar will reopen tomorrow.
 
2013-10-12 02:08:31 AM  
The ref didn't actually get tasered? Because that was the result I predicted.
 
2013-10-12 02:18:27 AM  

mediablitz: Krieghund: So what was the public intimidation? Standing nose to nose?

I find it interesting that the supposed conversation reads like the cops are straight out of an english butler's school.

Totally bullshiat version of what was said and how it was said.


so I said, "I say young ruffian, please be kind and step back from us, the intrusion was not intended to offend."
and he says, "yo mofo step up or step off."
 
2013-10-12 02:35:07 AM  

fusillade762: The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'

Yeeah, that might work on a player but it's pretty dumb to try it on a cop.


Because armed thugs make their own law and don't have to listen to anyone else?
 
2013-10-12 02:39:04 AM  

kombi: So 2 cops ruin a game. The refs where right. They are ultimately in control of the game.


Um, they tried to eject the police officers. You do know that being a referee doesn't give you any legal power over people. Like, if a murder occurred on the field during a game, the referees wouldn't be claiming jurisdiction and investigating it. The only authority they have is over the conduct and rules of the game, not over the spectators. As others have pointed out, the thing they should have done would be to suspend play.

So, no, they were not right and they got a free lesson in the limits of their meager authority.
 
2013-10-12 02:39:37 AM  
And the police officer said, 'excuse me sir...


Well I think we know who is the liar in the situation.
 
2013-10-12 02:42:45 AM  

insano: Like, if a murder occurred on the field during a game, the referees wouldn't be claiming jurisdiction and investigating it.


"Law & Order: Gridiron."
 
2013-10-12 02:47:18 AM  
West went on to say, "There's several witnesses that stepped forward who stepped forward to say that's what happened. So, the two referees have been arrested for public intimidation."

Yet another blatant example of the Executive Branch riding roughshod over the Judicial Branch.

Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-10-12 02:47:44 AM  

insano: kombi: So 2 cops ruin a game. The refs where right. They are ultimately in control of the game.

Um, they tried to eject the police officers. You do know that being a referee doesn't give you any legal power over people. Like, if a murder occurred on the field during a game, the referees wouldn't be claiming jurisdiction and investigating it. The only authority they have is over the conduct and rules of the game, not over the spectators. As others have pointed out, the thing they should have done would be to suspend play.

So, no, they were not right and they got a free lesson in the limits of their meager authority.


How did you type all that while massaging those cops balls?
 
2013-10-12 02:51:33 AM  

xxdangerbobxx: fusillade762: The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'

Yeeah, that might work on a player but it's pretty dumb to try it on a cop.

Because armed thugs make their own law and don't have to listen to anyone else?


Duh.
 
2013-10-12 02:53:16 AM  
What is a Police Caption?
 
2013-10-12 02:53:25 AM  

Buzzerguy: If the referees felt these police officers were interfering with the safe play of the game, the rules allow them to eject the police officers.


The entire reason the police are there in uniform providing security is for public safety.  If a fight breaks out, if there is a sexual assault, if there is an unruly patron, if a little girl goes missing, if someone has brought in a weapon -- is the referee *also* going to deal with that?
 
2013-10-12 02:56:14 AM  

xxdangerbobxx: insano: kombi: So 2 cops ruin a game. The refs where right. They are ultimately in control of the game.

Um, they tried to eject the police officers. You do know that being a referee doesn't give you any legal power over people. Like, if a murder occurred on the field during a game, the referees wouldn't be claiming jurisdiction and investigating it. The only authority they have is over the conduct and rules of the game, not over the spectators. As others have pointed out, the thing they should have done would be to suspend play.

So, no, they were not right and they got a free lesson in the limits of their meager authority.

How did you type all that while massaging those cops balls?


you're so edgy.
 
2013-10-12 02:58:36 AM  
Handled like true adults by both sides, poorly.

Cop could have moved the crowd back when asked and the rep could have been civil about the request.

should have stopped play and given the cop 2 minute to comply. Then call the game.


Never argue with a cop. You'll never win
 
2013-10-12 02:59:00 AM  

FormatSlacker: The entire reason the police are there in uniform providing security is for public safety. If a fight breaks out, if there is a sexual assault, if there is an unruly patron, if a little girl goes missing, if someone has brought in a weapon -- is the referee *also* going to deal with that?


Probably about as much as the police will continue to officiate the game if the refs suspend play.
 
2013-10-12 03:00:42 AM  

xxdangerbobxx: How did you type all that while massaging those cops balls?


I would imagine the same way you typed that while massaging the refs' balls.

Really, you don't see how people can disagree without massaging other folks' private parts?  You might have issues...
 
2013-10-12 03:00:56 AM  

insano: they were not right


They very well might have been.

Police have a mandate which offers them limited authority of a legal nature while on official business. It doesn't make them good people, intelligent, or prevent them from abusing the authority granted to them.

It could very well be that the crowd was causing a dangerous situation, the cops were not doing their job properly, and the referee was well within his legal rights as a citizen of the united states of america to exercise the bill of rights and express his opinions to the officer without fear of reprisal. The police arresting them might all be corrupt turncoats not worth the hemp it would take to twist up a noose for 'em, thus rendering their authority null and void retroactively once this is uncovered.

Or it could just be that everyone involved in Football's an idiot and real people watch Ice Hockey where the refs are blind, the women fine, and none of the teeth are natural.
 
2013-10-12 03:08:18 AM  

doglover: Or it could just be that everyone involved in Football's an idiot and real people watch Ice Hockey where the refs are blind, the women fine, and none of the teeth are natural.


A decent line, with good rhythm but it would be so much more poetic if you could get it to rhyme.
 
2013-10-12 03:27:48 AM  
The cop fixed the cable?
 
2013-10-12 03:29:28 AM  

bojon: Never bring a flag to a gunfight.


Best. Comment. EVAR.

/srsly
 
2013-10-12 03:32:09 AM  

Frederick: doglover: Or it could just be that everyone involved in Football's an idiot and real people watch Ice Hockey where the refs are blind, the women fine, and none of the teeth are natural.

A decent line, with good rhythm but it would be so much more poetic if you could get it to rhyme.


So I look like a skald?
 
2013-10-12 03:32:22 AM  
They went to the refs house and killed his dogs?
 
2013-10-12 03:34:08 AM  

log_jammin: "Well, a referee asked a police officer to move some people back.  The police officer moved them back.  Another referee came up to the police officer and told him, 'that's not far enough.'  The police officer explained....would you please handle the game, referee the game, and we will handle the crowd for you. The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'  And the police officer said, 'excuse me sir, just referee the game, and we'll handle the crowd.'  And he says 'no, get out.  Get out now.'

The ref got a little power rush and it excited him.


You know who else got a little power rush and it excited him?
 
2013-10-12 03:34:24 AM  
When assholes collide... can't fault the cops though.
 
2013-10-12 03:35:26 AM  

Buzzerguy: By most football rulebooks, the referee is responsible for the safe playing of the game on all parts of the playing field and other delineated areas (the sideline, coach's boxes, and so forth).

If the referees felt these police officers were interfering with the safe play of the game, the rules allow them to eject the police officers. (The law probably does not, but in that case, the referees should suspend the playing of the game until they feel it can proceed safely.)


Well, they did delay the game for 20 minutes...while getting arrested.
 
2013-10-12 03:35:41 AM  

Prof. Frink: log_jammin: "Well, a referee asked a police officer to move some people back.  The police officer moved them back.  Another referee came up to the police officer and told him, 'that's not far enough.'  The police officer explained....would you please handle the game, referee the game, and we will handle the crowd for you. The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'  And the police officer said, 'excuse me sir, just referee the game, and we'll handle the crowd.'  And he says 'no, get out.  Get out now.'

The ref got a little power rush and it excited him.

You know who else got a little power rush and it excited him?


frank stallone
 
2013-10-12 03:46:09 AM  

ReverendJynxed: When assholes collide... can't fault the cops though.


Really?  For arresting referees because of a disagreement?  Obviously since none of us were there we don't know who was more in the right, but the fact that people were freaking arrested for this tells me who was in the wrong.
 
2013-10-12 03:48:20 AM  

vygramul: Petty tyrants piss me off. So really, in a fight between refs and cops, I'd have to root for a scoreless tie with lots of casualties.


^^^^ What he said.
 
2013-10-12 03:51:35 AM  
Christ, what a bunch of assholes.
 
2013-10-12 03:55:40 AM  

log_jammin: Prof. Frink: log_jammin: "Well, a referee asked a police officer to move some people back.  The police officer moved them back.  Another referee came up to the police officer and told him, 'that's not far enough.'  The police officer explained....would you please handle the game, referee the game, and we will handle the crowd for you. The second referee told the police officer, nose-to-nose with the police officer, 'you're out of the game...get outta here.'  And the police officer said, 'excuse me sir, just referee the game, and we'll handle the crowd.'  And he says 'no, get out.  Get out now.'

The ref got a little power rush and it excited him.

You know who else got a little power rush and it excited him?

frank stallone


Exactly.
 
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