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(Mother Jones)   Could President Obama be on his way to a second Nobel Peace Prize?   (motherjones.com) divider line 133
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2013-10-11 06:52:02 PM  
If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.
 
2013-10-11 06:53:14 PM  
We get it. He's black.
 
2013-10-11 06:54:05 PM  
The conservative apoplexy would be... glorious
 
2013-10-11 07:03:31 PM  
No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat
 
2013-10-11 07:07:30 PM  

feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.


He'd return it via TPS (Tomahawk Parcel Service)
 
2013-10-11 07:08:10 PM  
Today's award for a bunch of people that haven't even done anything yet proves that anything is possible.
 
2013-10-11 07:08:46 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.


^ And this.
 
2013-10-11 07:47:30 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!
 
2013-10-11 07:52:49 PM  

feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.


Still butthurt about it huh?
 
2013-10-11 08:04:10 PM  

Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!


All of this.
 
2013-10-11 08:04:13 PM  

Ennuipoet: take farking Kissinger's back too!


I'm still scratching my head over that one.
 
2013-10-11 08:10:20 PM  
Should have given it to Putin.

/ducks
 
2013-10-11 08:11:32 PM  
Has anybody else seen the recent derp FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: "MONSANTO WON THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR AGRICULTURE!!!! Sign the petition here!"?
 
NFA
2013-10-11 08:12:52 PM  
He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...

1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.
 
2013-10-11 08:22:44 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Ennuipoet: take farking Kissinger's back too!

I'm still scratching my head over that one.


The theory was that he negotiated a peace treaty with North Vietnam. After bombing the fark out of Laos, Cambodia, and of course Noth Vietnam. A true humanitarian. And then North Vietnam won anyway. See? It all makes sense.
 
2013-10-11 08:29:06 PM  

fusillade762: Should have given it to Putin.

/ducks


I was thinking that same thought earlier today.

Can you imagine Putin with a Nobel Peace Prize?  Jesus.
 
2013-10-11 08:41:18 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


Thread over, everyone go home.  What Obama should have done is thank the committee for the honor, but decline to accept it.  That would have made him look both magnanimous and gracious.
 
2013-10-11 08:48:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: fusillade762: Should have given it to Putin.

/ducks

I was thinking that same thought earlier today.

Can you imagine Putin with a Nobel Peace Prize?  Jesus.


I thought it was changed to Lesus yesterday. It's challenging to keep up with all the change in the church these days.

Putin would probably refuse the NPP becuz Obama has one. Irrespective of that hypothesis, the craftily-timed intersession of Putin into the Syrian "crisis" created an escape-hatch for Obama, who misjudged American antipathy for yet another incursion into the Arab world. Putin was perceived as the peacemaker, and Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye.
 
2013-10-11 08:59:00 PM  
I hope he wins the BOB award.

/best of the best
 
2013-10-11 09:12:41 PM  
I hope so.  Not because he deserves it, but it would piss off all the people I most like to see miserable.
 
2013-10-11 09:28:39 PM  
Didn't this whole chemical weapons destruction thing start with some reporter asking John Kerry what Syria could do to avoid an attack, and he said, off the cuff, give up all the weapons for destruction? The story in my head is of an arrogant, overstretched nation accidentally falling into the solution they should have pursued in the first place. Obama didn't deserve the 1st one for sure. And unless someone convinces me otherwise, that reporter deserves it more than Obama.

/supports the president, but does not support this.
 
2013-10-11 09:30:06 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!

All of this.


Every word of these.
 
2013-10-11 09:31:05 PM  

Farxist Marxist: Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye


His eyes were already black.

/ducks
 
2013-10-11 09:32:57 PM  
Too soon. Perhaps in his 3rd term.
 
2013-10-11 09:33:58 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


THIS, new liberal
 
2013-10-11 09:35:39 PM  
I'm glad he won the first one. The pure butthurt and anger it caused right wingers was glorious. I have no idea how many times I said only in America would people get visibly angry because the leader of their nation won a Nobel prize
 
2013-10-11 09:35:53 PM  
I like to think that Obama's Nobel was basically given to America as a whole, as a way of recognizing the country was looking for a change of pace after eight years of Bush.  If any other Democratic candidate won that election, they probably would have gotten the prize as well.
 
2013-10-11 09:36:46 PM  

khudi.pk



THANKS OBAMA!




thelibertarianrepublic.com



No, Thank you!

 
2013-10-11 09:36:47 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I hope so.  Not because he deserves it, but it would piss off all the people I most like to see miserable.


This - and anyway, if he manages to trigger the civil war that destroys the GOP, he'll actually deserve the next one.
 
2013-10-11 09:37:17 PM  
He's spent 5 years resisting the urge to beat the shiat out of Eric Cantor. I don't know if Mother Teresa could have shown that kind of restraint.
 
2013-10-11 09:37:22 PM  

b0rscht: Didn't this whole chemical weapons destruction thing start with some reporter asking John Kerry what Syria could do to avoid an attack, and he said, off the cuff, give up all the weapons for destruction? The story in my head is of an arrogant, overstretched nation accidentally falling into the solution they should have pursued in the first place. Obama didn't deserve the 1st one for sure. And unless someone convinces me otherwise, that reporter deserves it more than Obama.

/supports the president, but does not support this.


What the fark are you talking about? They awarded the peace prize to some multinational, U.N.-backed chemical watchdog group.
 
2013-10-11 09:37:24 PM  

shanrick: I hope he wins the BOB award.

/best of the best


makeameme.org
 
2013-10-11 09:40:47 PM  
We need Fark awards
 
2013-10-11 09:42:34 PM  

feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.


Really? I'm sure they don't consider a blah man being President as much of an affront to peace as you do.
 
2013-10-11 09:43:45 PM  

Coco LaFemme: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

Thread over, everyone go home.  What Obama should have done is thank the committee for the honor, but decline to accept it.  That would have made him look both magnanimous and gracious.


Among his "critics"? You haven't been paying attention.
 
2013-10-11 09:43:45 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.

Still butthurt about it huh?


You really think he deserved the first one? Let me guess, you are one of those "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!!!" people, aren't you?
 
2013-10-11 09:44:52 PM  
He obviously didn't deserve the first one.  That was the Nobel committee thanking the American public for not electing another farkwad like Bush.

But OMG would I love to see the right wing blogosphere if he got another one.  It would be SO worth it.  Better still would be if the Nobel folks came out and said "We've started another prize, the Nobel Prize for Politics.  First awardee -- Barack Obama".  Swear to god I'd farking come right there, right then.
 
2013-10-11 09:45:36 PM  

BalugaJoe: We need Fark awards


The Fark award is being greened every few years, if you're deemed worthy.
 
2013-10-11 09:45:48 PM  

NeoCortex42: I like to think that Obama's Nobel was basically given to America as a whole, as a way of recognizing the country was looking for a change of pace after eight years of Bush.  If any other Democratic candidate won that election, they probably would have gotten the prize as well.


This is the correct analysis.
 
2013-10-11 09:45:58 PM  
Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.
 
2013-10-11 09:46:05 PM  
He does deserve it exactly as much as Cheney does.  They have the same peace plans.
 
2013-10-11 09:53:24 PM  

b0rscht: Obama didn't deserve the 1st one for sure.


Alright, look, this may be hard to recognise from inside the United States, but I think you might have missed the significance of Barack Obama being elected. The rest of the world that pays attention to the USA - that is all of us - watched as the global superpower with all the nukes and a pretty big army went and started a fight in Afghanistan (excessive but understandable) then started a fight with Iraq (huh?) and started more of a fight in Pakistan (!!!?) and was eyeing Syria and Iran, while its economy was crumbling, in a way that would impact everyone. Wars that were older than the students now learning about the countries in question in school were going on when the USA changed hands.

Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world.

Sure, the Peace Prize doesn't mean that much since suckholes like Kissinger have it. And yes, Obama did not turn out to be as anti-war, as pro-peace as he should have been to deserve the medal in hindsight, because of things he did after he farking won it. But if you want to know why he got it, he did seemingly turn up to muzzle the biggest, nastiest dog in human history.
 
2013-10-11 09:56:29 PM  
Gosh, I hope he does.
 
2013-10-11 09:59:57 PM  

machoprogrammer: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.

Still butthurt about it huh?

You really think he deserved the first one? Let me guess, you are one of those "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!!!" people, aren't you?


I think you misread me... I was just teasing fecking, who seems like an ok guy other than the right-winginess. I agree that the Nobel was more of a Thank You For Not Being Bush award. But I am DEFINITELY not a BSABSVR guy.
 
2013-10-11 10:00:41 PM  

LazarusLong42: AliceBToklasLives: Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!

All of this.

Every word of these.


QFT

Also, should Obama get credit here? He was hawking a military intervention that was too much for even the Republicans, and the diplomatic solution that wound up working came from a moment of frustration when John Kerry was speaking to the press. Putin jumped on it to make the US look foolish -- "see, you guys treated this like an impossibility, but we can make it happen."

That's hardly the stuff Nobel Peace Prizes should be made of. Give it to the Pakistani girl.
 
2013-10-11 10:03:57 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.


Who's counting?
 
2013-10-11 10:05:13 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.


Wow, he managed all that more than a month before taking office? He's even more powerful than we thought!
 
2013-10-11 10:05:19 PM  
Yeah, this article is a little over the top.

Did Obama provide the push that got other people to do something about Syria's chemical weapons?  Sure, he was a part of it.
Deserve much credit at all for the peace prize this year?  Stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking, MJ.

/ohhhhh, I think I know what you're smoking now
 
2013-10-11 10:06:33 PM  
secularsage: ..He was hawking a military intervention that was too much for even the Republicans...

Dude, that's nonsense. They opposed it because it's all they've got: hating Obama and not wanting to give him ANYTHING. If Obama came out against taking a hammer and smashing your own balls into a red paste, there wouldn't be be any Republican children for a generation.
 
2013-10-11 10:08:20 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqfwvIACj8">http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=1jqfwvIACj8
 
2013-10-11 10:11:06 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:08 PM  
Cock brothers should have it for the eeffort to fully expose terrorism in the US.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:42 PM  

ghare: secularsage: ..He was hawking a military intervention that was too much for even the Republicans...

Dude, that's nonsense. They opposed it because it's all they've got: hating Obama and not wanting to give him ANYTHING. If Obama came out against taking a hammer and smashing your own balls into a red paste, there wouldn't be be any Republican children for a generation.


I disagree, and I have no love for either party.

Many Republicans took the position, as did most of the American people according to public opinion polls, that there was no reason for the US to get involved. What was really interesting was that the Republican LEADERSHIP got behind this one eventually, but the party itself didn't. The same was true of the Democrats, but to a lesser degree. There has been a lot of talk over the last few months about how party lines blurred over this issue and both houses of Congress showed strife between the party line and the general mood of the Congressmen and Senators who were supposed to tow it.

Which is to say... A broken clock is right twice a day. For once, the normally hawkish Republicans were on the right side of the issue.
 
2013-10-11 10:12:43 PM  
I'm still amused that people somehow think the statements Kerry made were just dumb luck
 
2013-10-11 10:15:06 PM  

Without Fail: Doktor_Zhivago: Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.

Who's counting?


Brown people so no1curr

fusillade762: Wow, he managed all that more than a month before taking office? He's even more powerful than we thought!


I was referring to the second peace prize mentioned in that cockslobbering of an article

Obama: I'MA BOMB THE shiat OUT OF YOU IF YOU DON'T STOP KILLING PEOPLE WITH POISON INSTEAD OF GUNS AND BOMBS AND FIRE LIKE GOD INTENDED WHEN HE INVENTED 21st CENTURY ASYMMETRIC WARFARE

Kerry & Putin:  Hey bro what if they just handed over their chemical weapons to the UN?

Article: OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BREAKTHROUGH

please... I voted for the man twice and i like his domestic policies but the idea that he's not a hardass who won't hesitate to bomb the shiat out of anyone that so much as moves in a way that would threaten his poll numbers is a farking joke. He's already ordered extra judicial killings of american citizens abroad and increased the power of the executive to basically murder whoever the fark they want with a goddamn missile firing remote control robot.  The idea that he is somehow fundamentally different in moral character than any other American president is a joke.

But yeah only people pissed off at the blah man disagree with him ever ever.

F*ck off.
 
2013-10-11 10:16:55 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I hope so.  Not because he deserves it, but it would piss off all the people I most like to see miserable.


I don't want to see anybody miserable...but, the hatred directed at the president is truly baffling to me.  It's completely out of proportion to anything he's actually done.

It's a kind of insanity.  Obama Derangement Syndrome is a real thing.
 
2013-10-11 10:20:44 PM  

TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world


That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.
 
2013-10-11 10:25:55 PM  

NewWorldDan: TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world

That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.


The best part of this bullshiat is you actually think someone will buy it.  Haha.
 
2013-10-11 10:26:26 PM  

NewWorldDan: TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world

That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.


...Do you and I occupy the same planet?
 
2013-10-11 10:26:29 PM  
I don't know about President Obama and a second Nobel Peace Prize but we've got some contenders in Congress for the Nobel Scumbag Prize.
 
2013-10-11 10:26:46 PM  

TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected.


Higgs received the Nobel 39 years after theorizing a missing particle. Only when he was proved correct was his work recognized. Obama spouts off vacuous and as yet undelivered election promises and nine months later received the NPP. Using the same criteria for the NP for physics, Higgs should have received his in 1965.
 
2013-10-11 10:27:55 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: [khudi.pk image 690x388]

THANKS OBAMA!


[thelibertarianrepublic.com image 750x554]

No, Thank you!


i301.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-11 10:30:05 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


The award is also given to those as a means to promote peace, not because they have done anything.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/09/nobe l- peace-prize-obama
 
2013-10-11 10:32:59 PM  

NewWorldDan: That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant


... of the United States, or superpowers, becauser superpowers are dicks, and the United States is a superpower, I know. Yes, the idea that maybe you guys elected a non-asshole who could run your asshole nation in a non-asshole way was optimistic in the extreme, but hey, there are about 6.7 billion of us non-Americans, and hope is important.
 
2013-10-11 10:38:13 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


I don't know, I mean I guess he didn't. He hasn't objectively lived up to it. As a liberal, I should hate him, really.

But, I dunno. More and more I just feel that maybe we are being too hard on him for some reason. I mean, he's not such a bad guy, you know?

I think those guys in Stockholm just saw something in him.

Maybe I'm suffering from some kind of syndrome?
 
2013-10-11 10:39:29 PM  

feckingmorons: If they call him to Stockholm it will be to take the first one back.


Your anger makes me happy.
 
2013-10-11 10:41:37 PM  
i36.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-11 10:46:22 PM  

sendtodave: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

I don't know, I mean I guess he didn't. He hasn't objectively lived up to it. As a liberal, I should hate him, really.

But, I dunno. More and more I just feel that maybe we are being too hard on him for some reason. I mean, he's not such a bad guy, you know?

I think those guys in Stockholm just saw something in him.

Maybe I'm suffering from some kind of syndrome?


The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in Oslo, not Stockholm.  Sweden passes out all the other Nobel prizes.
 
2013-10-11 10:48:15 PM  
'ummm...

No.

He didn't deserve it then.

And he doesn't deserve a second one now.
 
2013-10-11 10:49:48 PM  

shanrick: I hope he wins the BOB award.

/best of the best


i457.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-11 10:57:05 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: fusillade762: Wow, he managed all that more than a month before taking office? He's even more powerful than we thought!

I was referring to the second peace prize mentioned in that cockslobbering of an article


Never mind my comment, I screwed up the dates anyway in an attempt to make a stupid joke. For the record I don't understand how he won the first one, either.


Doktor_Zhivago: But yeah only people pissed off at the blah man disagree with him ever ever.

F*ck off.


Whoa, slow down there, I don't think we actually disagree.
 
2013-10-11 10:57:06 PM  

secularsage: ghare: secularsage:

I disagree, and I have no love for either party.



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Of course not
 
2013-10-11 11:02:03 PM  
Wow... I've never seen a thread where absolutely nobody read TFA.
 
2013-10-11 11:03:34 PM  
um, no.
 
2013-10-11 11:03:57 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Wow... I've never seen a thread where absolutely nobody read TFA.


Its great right.
 
2013-10-11 11:06:51 PM  

Coco LaFemme: sendtodave: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

I don't know, I mean I guess he didn't. He hasn't objectively lived up to it. As a liberal, I should hate him, really.

But, I dunno. More and more I just feel that maybe we are being too hard on him for some reason. I mean, he's not such a bad guy, you know?

I think those guys in Stockholm just saw something in him.

Maybe I'm suffering from some kind of syndrome?

The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in Oslo, not Stockholm.  Sweden passes out all the other Nobel prizes.


Oslo syndrome?
 
2013-10-11 11:11:28 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Wow... I've never seen a thread where absolutely nobody read TFA.


Are you new here?
 
2013-10-11 11:17:55 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: I was referring to the second peace prize mentioned in that cockslobbering of an article


Uh, you do realize that they gave the Peace Prize to Teddy Roosevelt (for ending the Russo-Japanese War) AFTER San Juan Hill, right?

/they seem to give it for a particular event or deal, regardless of the person's previous behavior.
 
2013-10-11 11:20:27 PM  
If he can talk Iran down and bring peace to Israel and the Palestinians, then i think he would.

I do think he most likely will get a 2nd prize though. Dude is still young.
 
2013-10-11 11:21:51 PM  

fusillade762: Never mind my comment, I screwed up the dates anyway in an attempt to make a stupid joke. For the record I don't understand how he won the first one, either.


IIRC Obama seemed pretty surprised at the time too.
 
2013-10-11 11:22:54 PM  

Farxist Marxist: Putin was perceived as the peacemaker, and Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye.


BS, Obama got just what he claimed he wanted and the responsibility/cost got shifted to Putin. You're just butthurt that you didn't get to spend a couple of trillion killing a few thousand Muslims.

Boy Howdie, do Real 'Merkins love killing those Muslims.
 
2013-10-11 11:23:44 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: [khudi.pk image 690x388]

THANKS OBAMA!


[thelibertarianrepublic.com image 750x554]

No, Thank you!


Um, Mods? Isn't there some sort of rule for posting pics of dead bodies? Just sayin'.
 
2013-10-11 11:28:18 PM  
The committee doesn't feeling like trolling this year. So no.
 
2013-10-11 11:33:24 PM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


All of this.
 
2013-10-11 11:40:47 PM  

secularsage: LazarusLong42: AliceBToklasLives: Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!

All of this.

Every word of these.

QFT


Has anyone mentioned this yet?  Or perhaps that?
 
2013-10-11 11:41:12 PM  
God, I hope not. Enough all ready.

He hasn't been that great a president.
 
2013-10-11 11:54:13 PM  
My own hypothesis is that the committee actually planned to award the prize to Malala Yousafzai (who was widely considered the favourite), but had to find someone else tootsweet on Thursday on news the EU had given Malala the Sakharov Prize already.

I don't blame them, honestly. Kid gets two peace prizes in two days? Come on, that's just plain silly.

(Could be worse. The committee had Mahatma Gandhi die on them before they could award him the prize in 1948. In the end, the prize went unawarded on the grounds that no living person was suitable that year.)
 
2013-10-11 11:56:43 PM  
Why not? He's every bit as worthy of a second one as he was the first time.
 
2013-10-12 12:04:52 AM  
If he won again I can just imagine his acceptance speech, droning on and on.
 
2013-10-12 12:05:29 AM  

NFA: He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...

1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.

 
2013-10-12 12:10:34 AM  

NeoAnderthal: Why not? He's every bit as worthy of a second one as he was the first time.


He won the first one for not being Bush, pretty much.  That's how glad the rest of the world was to see the back of the Bush administration.
 
2013-10-12 12:14:09 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Nothing says nobel peace prize like extra judicial killings and 178 dead babies.


Came here to say this.  It's been taken care of.
 
2013-10-12 12:22:35 AM  

shanrick: I hope he wins the BOB award.

/best of the best


cdn.meme.li
 
2013-10-12 12:32:35 AM  

NeoCortex42: I like to think that Obama's Nobel was basically given to America as a whole, as a way of recognizing the country was looking for a change of pace after eight years of Bush.  If any other Democratic candidate won that election, they probably would have gotten the prize as well.


If you read TFA, that's exactly what Obama said at the time (without explicitly dropping Bush's name)
 
2013-10-12 01:13:53 AM  
Well, by the standards in which they gave him the first, then sure... as are all the farkers online tonight.
 
2013-10-12 01:18:38 AM  
Read TFA? Tee-Fah. Never heard of it.

Teatards For America? Why would anyone read that?
 
2013-10-12 01:53:55 AM  

BalugaJoe: We need Fark awards


Oh please! Oh please!  Oh please!  Oh please!  Oh please!  Oh please!  Oh please!  Oh please!

/Don't we do that every year with the headlines?
 
2013-10-12 02:03:29 AM  

Koalaesq: NewWorldDan: TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world

That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.

...Do you and I occupy the same planet?


If it's the one in which the president extra-judicially murdered two citizens without arrest or trial and everyone's sorta cool with it because arresting them would have been too hard..... yup.

Anyone who thinks that wouldn't have been (rightly) considered an impeachable offense by house Democrats under a Republican president is either being willfully ignorant or is plain clueless.
 
2013-10-12 02:10:49 AM  

Daniels: If it's the one in which the president extra-judicially murdered two citizens without arrest or trial and everyone's sorta cool with it because arresting them would have been too hard..... yup.

Anyone who thinks that wouldn't have been (rightly) considered an impeachable offense by house Democrats under a Republican president is either being willfully ignorant or is plain clueless.


It's actually the world in which the guy that started an unprovoked war based on false evidence that was responsible for more than 100,000 dead and many more maimed is a free man.

And the one in which the current president has acted according to the admittedly shady laws that were passed by the aforementioned guy's pals in congress and that he gleefully signed.   

You know, the real world.
 
2013-10-12 02:21:48 AM  

DVOM: Farxist Marxist: Putin was perceived as the peacemaker, and Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye.

BS, Obama got just what he claimed he wanted and the responsibility/cost got shifted to Putin. You're just butthurt that you didn't get to spend a couple of trillion killing a few thousand Muslims.

Boy Howdie, do Real 'Merkins love killing those Muslims.


If you say so, I wouldn't know.
 
2013-10-12 02:23:51 AM  
jojostan: NFA: He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...
 
1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.


That would be more deserving of the Nobel Prize for Economics


( actually called the The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel , the title use an economy of words )
 
2013-10-12 03:09:37 AM  

Farxist Marxist: Marcus Aurelius: fusillade762: Should have given it to Putin.

/ducks

I was thinking that same thought earlier today.

Can you imagine Putin with a Nobel Peace Prize?  Jesus.

I thought it was changed to Lesus yesterday. It's challenging to keep up with all the change in the church these days.

Putin would probably refuse the NPP becuz Obama has one. Irrespective of that hypothesis, the craftily-timed intersession of Putin into the Syrian "crisis" created an escape-hatch for Obama, who misjudged American antipathy for yet another incursion into the Arab world. Putin was perceived as the peacemaker, and Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye.


Not sure if serious...Obama, from almost any perspective outside the US, has had outstanding foreign policy success. Particularly when compared to the bully-boy, dick waving, self aggrandization of the previous administration.
 
2013-10-12 03:11:08 AM  

Daniels: Koalaesq: NewWorldDan: TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world

That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.

...Do you and I occupy the same planet?

If it's the one in which the president extra-judicially murdered two citizens without arrest or trial and everyone's sorta cool with it because arresting them would have been too hard..... yup.

Anyone who thinks that wouldn't have been (rightly) considered an impeachable offense by house Democrats under a Republican president is either being willfully ignorant or is plain clueles ...


W-wait, do you think the US presidents have never done that before, up until now?

Um, wow. That's... hee. Well, okay! Yeah, the first time you hear about stuff like this it's super disturbing.
 
2013-10-12 03:14:32 AM  
Well isn't that just so precious?

I wonder when we will submit our stockpile for international monitoring.
We could at least stop developing new stains of bio-beasties.

We won't even sign the landmine treaty.
We still use depleted uranium rounds and that shat be nasty.

But hey, it's all good because our tanks and heavy equipment are now green and eco friendly.
 
2013-10-12 03:24:27 AM  

NewWorldDan: TalenLee: Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world

That is a view that can only be described as willfully ignorant of Barack Obama and what he stands for. And what he stands for is... nothing. And this was entirely apparent during the campaign. He offered up populist platitudes about what a lot of people wanted to hear. But the US political machinery being the broken system that it is, his primary and general election opponents were 2 people that no one really wanted, so he speaks to the youth about hope and change and they fall for it. But I'm terribly disappointed in the Nobel committee for being so gullible.

Given the history of the peace prize, I shouldn't be so surprised. I would be surprised if the committee were dumb enough to give another award to the guy who uses murder drones to execute "bad guys" without any sort of trial or oversight, after failing to close Gitmo, for sustaining the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for illegally waging war in Libya, and for trying to start another war in Syria. Anyone who thinks this guy should be considered for a second peace prize needs to get their head examined. This clown belongs in jail with Bush and Cheney. Hell, the last US president who wasn't a crook was Carter, and he was just a joke.


Unlike science, peace can be promoted by ideals and attitudes.
 
2013-10-12 03:27:43 AM  

Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!


Norwegian here. I agree with both of the above. (I'd also yoink the Rabin / Peres / Arafat one)

IMO, instead of Obama, the award should have been given to "the people of the United States, for turning away from the destructive path of the past eight years," or some such thing. Yeah, it was a great big FU to bush (it's the only way I can make any sense of it), but it was a poorly executed one.

/I really, honestly, thought it was April 1st when I heard of Obama's Nobel
 
2013-10-12 03:35:15 AM  

Farxist Marxist: DVOM: Farxist Marxist: Putin was perceived as the peacemaker, and Obama suffered another foreign policy black eye.

BS, Obama got just what he claimed he wanted and the responsibility/cost got shifted to Putin. You're just butthurt that you didn't get to spend a couple of trillion killing a few thousand Muslims.

Boy Howdie, do Real 'Merkins love killing those Muslims.

If you say so, I wouldn't know.


Then, you're willfully ignorant. The rest of the world knows.
 
2013-10-12 03:48:33 AM  

revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat


it was easier to write his name than all the Americans who voted for him - I mean, they'd have to get the lists from ACORN to remove all the duplicate names or else it'd look bad...
 
2013-10-12 06:04:30 AM  

TalenLee: b0rscht: Obama didn't deserve the 1st one for sure.

Alright, look, this may be hard to recognise from inside the United States, but I think you might have missed the significance of Barack Obama being elected. The rest of the world that pays attention to the USA - that is all of us - watched as the global superpower with all the nukes and a pretty big army went and started a fight in Afghanistan (excessive but understandable) then started a fight with Iraq (huh?) and started more of a fight in Pakistan (!!!?) and was eyeing Syria and Iran, while its economy was crumbling, in a way that would impact everyone. Wars that were older than the students now learning about the countries in question in school were going on when the USA changed hands.

Barack Obama turns up promising to stop those wars and step down the militarism, and gets elected. That is, Barack Obama, just by getting elected, expressed the ability of a nation that had been in a state of non-stop war for a near-decade to stop, to stabilise, and maybe stop being such a gigantic asshole to the rest of the world.

Sure, the Peace Prize doesn't mean that much since suckholes like Kissinger have it. And yes, Obama did not turn out to be as anti-war, as pro-peace as he should have been to deserve the medal in hindsight, because of things he did after he farking won it. But if you want to know why he got it, he did seemingly turn up to muzzle the biggest, nastiest dog in human history.


fark. Yes.

/newsletter?
 
2013-10-12 07:50:12 AM  
Surely you're joking Mother Jones.
 
2013-10-12 08:01:51 AM  
I could see it happening.  The Nobel Prize isn't much of a distinction anymore - it has become a joke.
 
2013-10-12 08:02:11 AM  

oryx: Surely you're joking Mother Jones.


I am serious, and don't call me "Mother".
 
2013-10-12 08:04:09 AM  

kukukupo: I could see it happening.  The Nobel Prize isn't much of a distinction anymore - it has become a joke.


Well, it's always been a concretely meaningless, arbitrarily awarded prize, and as such, it's as much or as little of a "joke" as it's ever been - I couldn't really argue with you.
 
2013-10-12 08:09:47 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: b0rscht: Didn't this whole chemical weapons destruction thing start with some reporter asking John Kerry what Syria could do to avoid an attack, and he said, off the cuff, give up all the weapons for destruction? The story in my head is of an arrogant, overstretched nation accidentally falling into the solution they should have pursued in the first place. Obama didn't deserve the 1st one for sure. And unless someone convinces me otherwise, that reporter deserves it more than Obama.

/supports the president, but does not support this.

What the fark are you talking about? They awarded the peace prize to some multinational, U.N.-backed chemical watchdog group.


I am talking about this:  http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/09/09/syria_chemical_weap o ns_did_john_kerry_just_accidentally_find_a_workable.html

Was this just a sideshow? I dunno.
 
2013-10-12 08:27:51 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I'm still amused that people somehow think the statements Kerry made were just dumb luck


Exactly. Guess what people, the fact that he said that after meeting with the Russians, after Obama spoke to Putin personally, and Russia took them up on it? Wow, what an amazing series of coincidences...
It's called diplomacy people.
 
2013-10-12 09:39:36 AM  
The only reason I would ever support this is to see frothy conservative anger.


And even then. NO. He didn't deserve the first one.
 
2013-10-12 09:51:19 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: I'm still amused that people somehow think the statements Kerry made were just dumb luck


dont tell that to the right wing derposphere. That HAD to be luck, all diplomacy happens in the open, nothing happens behind closed doors...
 
2013-10-12 09:51:59 AM  
You know what other life-long liberal didn't think Obama deserved the Peace Prize?  Obama.  I doubt he would think he's deserving of a second Peace Prize, either.  And his speech when receiving the Peace Prize perfectly encapsulated the American ideal that sometimes Peace can only be achieved thru war, something the Peace prize committee probably does not agree with.  Why people can get outraged over this is beyond me.
 
2013-10-12 10:05:22 AM  
lets not give it to the girl who got shot in the face by the Taliban for encouraging girls to go to school.
 
2013-10-12 10:09:06 AM  
Two totally undeserved peace Nobels should also get him a Guiness mention.
 
2013-10-12 10:47:21 AM  

RyogaM: You know what other life-long liberal didn't think Obama deserved the Peace Prize?  Obama.  I doubt he would think he's deserving of a second Peace Prize, either.  And his speech when receiving the Peace Prize perfectly encapsulated the American ideal that sometimes Peace can only be achieved thru war, something the Peace prize committee probably does not agree with.  Why people can get outraged over this is beyond me.


And that's why he'll never win a second one.  He ruffled a lot of feathers in Oslo with that speech.
 
2013-10-12 11:30:33 AM  

Ennuipoet: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

This

/and also that
//take farking Kissinger's back too!


and Arafat's!

/I'm surprised Hilter or Stalin never won the thing.
 
2013-10-12 11:49:42 AM  
I can't think of a more deserving recipient for such a worthless empty prize.
 
2013-10-12 12:03:02 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I can't think of a more deserving recipient for such a worthless empty prize.


If it was so worthless, nobody would even be talking about it. As it stands, every year it forces discussion about whatever issue the winner of it is addressing. Like clockwork. (Aside from the people who scream at the top of their lungs about how much they don't care.)

/was really hoping it would go to Malala
 
2013-10-12 12:22:43 PM  

Coco LaFemme: revrendjim: No. He didn't deserve the first one.

/life-long liberal and Democrat

Thread over, everyone go home.  What Obama should have done is thank the committee for the honor, but decline to accept it.  That would have made him look both magnanimous and gracious.


I'm sure he and his staff did ponder these possible scenarios. What would the GOP think and say if he had snubbed it? What would his party think and say? What would the international community think and say? Each action, or non-action as the case may be, would have its own SWOT diagram drawn out and analyzed. I think, of all the possible actions he could have taken, just showing up, receiving the prize, say that he doesn't deserve it was the least ungracious and safest route to take.
 
2013-10-12 12:43:23 PM  

NFA: He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...

1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.


Nothing like consolidating power into a single party, eh, comrade?
 
2013-10-12 01:05:25 PM  

studs up: NFA: He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...

1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.

Nothing like consolidating power into a single party, eh, comrade?


Isn't that something that the right suggests from time to time, heil Reagan?
 
2013-10-12 02:37:52 PM  
If the American people (minus the Total Fark left) had not stood up and prevented Obama from going to war, he would be a shoe in for a second prize.

As it is, Putin should win one for stopping a petty tyrant from setting the rest of the Middle East aflame.
 
2013-10-12 02:44:50 PM  
Barry should have won a second prize after utilizing the police to violently disperse the Occupy movements throughout the nation.
 
NFA
2013-10-12 03:16:22 PM  

Pharque-it: studs up: NFA: He would deserve a Nobel Peace prize IF...

1) When the country defaults, he declares a state of emergency
2) He arrests half the Republican party and publicly tries them for treason.

Nothing like consolidating power into a single party, eh, comrade?

Isn't that something that the right suggests from time to time, heil Reagan?


Indeed it is....

: )
 
2013-10-12 04:28:48 PM  

Nemo's Brother: As it is, Putin Obama should win another one for making Putin stop a petty tyrant from setting the rest of the Middle East aflame.


Fixed!

With all due respect to NB (and his no doubt massive cache of shirtless Putin pics) Putin is a power mad egomaniac with delusions of grandeur who was pressured into reining in one of his few remaining client states pretty much solely through the implied threat of American military intervention.

Actually. I've reconsidered. Obama shouldn't win a second NPP.

It's enough that Obama maneuvered him into doing what he did, a second NPP would just be rubbing Pootie's face in it.

Carry on.
 
2013-10-12 10:16:06 PM  
Let's see:
A) Create Chemical Weapons Committee
B) Watch as country uses chemical weapons multiple times on civilians
C) Faux outrage and faux strikes
D) ??
E) Capitulate to the weapons supplier, declare victory, and nominate yourself for peace prize while standing on the bodies of gassed children as the perpetrator still lives unharmed dictating terms.

/Hey did anyone get the NPP for capitulating the Sudetenland and averting WWII?  Nothing to see here folks.  Another award on how an organization makes you feel rather than what they've done.
 
2013-10-12 11:20:50 PM  

Brainsick: /newsletter?


I don't have one of those, but I do have a blog (that sucks).
 
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