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(Metro)   Asylum seekers claiming to be gay told they have to back it up   (metro.co.uk) divider line 144
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2013-10-11 04:38:52 PM  
Not in US.  If your story sounds pretty much legit, most of the time you're approved.  Even if the asylum officer thinks there's something hinky with your story (like they JUST heard the exact same story down to the details earlier that day) many immigration judges will just approve the asylum anyway.

Hooray America?
 
2013-10-11 05:00:41 PM  

EmmaLou: Not in US.  If your story sounds pretty much legit, most of the time you're approved.  Even if the asylum officer thinks there's something hinky with your story (like they JUST heard the exact same story down to the details earlier that day) many immigration judges will just approve the asylum anyway.

Hooray America?


I have no problem with that.  I'd say we should open our borders more anyway.  Immigration was one of the driving forces that made our country great in the first place, let's keep it going.
 
2013-10-11 05:04:34 PM  
I hear the Saudis have a test for that...
 
2013-10-11 05:08:01 PM  
"If they're gay, let's see them do the Hat Dance."

"You're thinking of the Mexicans. The gays have the Buttsex."

"Okay, let's see you do that, then."

"I should've just done the Hat Dance."
 
2013-10-11 05:48:09 PM  
My jaw is sore, do you accept old Donna Summers ticket stubs?
 
2013-10-11 05:55:48 PM  

fusillade762: I hear the Saudis have a test for that...


Do they check to see if you weigh the same as a duck ?
 
2013-10-11 05:57:12 PM  
Well anybody could just say they are gay
 
2013-10-11 05:57:55 PM  
 . . .but we are willing to learn.
 
2013-10-11 05:58:48 PM  
"'People should accept the statement of sexuality by those who seek asylum. This practice is regrettable and ought to be stopped immediately.' "

why?  no one automatically accepts proof of marriage or birth.  They demand documentation of some kind.

how else are they supposed to prove they are homosexual?
 
2013-10-11 06:00:18 PM  
So is there a website featuring all this proof? I'm only asking for a friend.
 
2013-10-11 06:03:53 PM  

brap: My jaw is sore, do you accept old Donna Summers ticket stubs?


Yes.  Barbara Streisand and Wham are also acceptable substitutes
 
2013-10-11 06:05:10 PM  
Would that be anything like the eunuch test in History of the World Part One?
 
2013-10-11 06:05:52 PM  
i saw that video.

turns out the immigration lady was really hot & the guys turned out to be bisexual. hot.
 
2013-10-11 06:07:48 PM  

kvinesknows: "'People should accept the statement of sexuality by those who seek asylum. This practice is regrettable and ought to be stopped immediately.' "

why?  no one automatically accepts proof of marriage or birth.  They demand documentation of some kind.

how else are they supposed to prove they are homosexual?


Quote Steel Magnolias?

Seriously though, many of these asylum seekers are fleeing countries where they will "test" you to see if you're gay, then punish you if this "test" confirms it.  So they try to get asylum in a more "civilised" country, only to be told they have to be "tested" there as well?  It's making them re-live their trauma.

What would be the harm in doing away with the "gay test"?
 
2013-10-11 06:10:31 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: EmmaLou: Not in US.  If your story sounds pretty much legit, most of the time you're approved.  Even if the asylum officer thinks there's something hinky with your story (like they JUST heard the exact same story down to the details earlier that day) many immigration judges will just approve the asylum anyway.

Hooray America?

I have no problem with that.  I'd say we should open our borders more anyway.  Immigration was one of the driving forces that made our country great in the first place, let's keep it going.

Fine as long as we go back to the same level of Federal social welfare programs that we had "back then".  Immigrants can get expensive.  That is why  most Europeans nations are even tougher on immigration than we are. Those social welfare programs they have for citizens are expensive enough without the added expensive of non-citizens. Many EU countries require you to have private medical insurance, as an immigrant, for a period of time before you are allowed to use the government one.

End of free NHS care for migrants under new bill
Major restrictions on migrants' free access to the NHS are to be introduced.

 
2013-10-11 06:11:49 PM  
Well, at least they weren't asked to bareback it up.
 
2013-10-11 06:12:26 PM  

hasty ambush: Fine as long as we go back to the same level of Federal social welfare programs that we had "back then". Immigrants can get expensive.


Cuz immigrants never work and never pay taxes.
 
2013-10-11 06:14:10 PM  
Depending into what they have to back it up, that could be an effective test.
 
2013-10-11 06:15:59 PM  

hasty ambush: TuteTibiImperes: EmmaLou: Not in US.  If your story sounds pretty much legit, most of the time you're approved.  Even if the asylum officer thinks there's something hinky with your story (like they JUST heard the exact same story down to the details earlier that day) many immigration judges will just approve the asylum anyway.

Hooray America?

I have no problem with that.  I'd say we should open our borders more anyway.  Immigration was one of the driving forces that made our country great in the first place, let's keep it going.
Fine as long as we go back to the same level of Federal social welfare programs that we had "back then".  Immigrants can get expensive.  That is why  most Europeans nations are even tougher on immigration than we are. Those social welfare programs they have for citizens are expensive enough without the added expensive of non-citizens. Many EU countries require you to have private medical insurance, as an immigrant, for a period of time before you are allowed to use the government one.

End of free NHS care for migrants under new bill
Major restrictions on migrants' free access to the NHS are to be introduced.


I think the better solution would be to offer amnesty for everyone here, require that they complete the path to citizenship within a set period of time, ease restrictions making it easier for new people to come here legally, but require that they also complete the path to citizenship within a set number of years after coming over, or else they have to leave.

Make it such that everyone is welcome, but if you're going to make this your home, you need to become a citizen and accept the rights and responsibilities that come with that.
 
2013-10-11 06:25:48 PM  
Look at the bottom of your foot. Simplest gay test ever.
 
2013-10-11 06:28:37 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: think the better solution would be to offer amnesty for everyone here, require that they complete the path to citizenship within a set period of time, ease restrictions making it easier for new people to come here legally, but require that they also complete the path to citizenship within a set number of years after coming over, or else they have to leave.


I think just issuing a work visa is a better way,.  Believe or not not everybody, including illegals, who comes here wants to be a citizen.  They send a lot of money back home and are building houses back the home country.

Those that want citizenship got the back of the line behind all those who first arrived legally and they have to met the same requirements

Also we need to do away with the option of dual citizenship in this country-pick one, no hedging you bets.
 
2013-10-11 06:29:35 PM  
It is absurd for a judge or a caseworker to have to ask an individual to prove that they are lesbian or gay, to ask them what kind of films they watch, what kind of material they read,' the committee's chairman and Labour MP Keith Vaz said.

Films:  Aliens, Caddyshack, NASA B-roll of anything that moves.
Read:  K&R C, fifty classic climbs of North America, Redefining Airmanship.
 
2013-10-11 06:33:26 PM  
jaytkay:
Cuz immigrants never work and never pay taxes.

They have problems with that in Europe, yeah.
It's one of the things we do better in the US, although it's mostly the oceans that get credit for that one.
 
2013-10-11 06:37:37 PM  
i.imgur.com

Is it hot in Chad?
 
2013-10-11 06:42:48 PM  
Still ROFLing.. And I have that damn song stuck in my head. +10 interwebs for headline subby
 
2013-10-11 06:43:21 PM  
Show them that you downloaded Cher's new album?
 
2013-10-11 06:49:59 PM  
They should have to prove their homosexuality by having to be able to stuff a 4 pound pineapple into their rectum.
 
2013-10-11 06:53:50 PM  

illannoyin: [i.imgur.com image 800x431]

Is it hot in Chad?


Thanks; first thing I thought of!
 
2013-10-11 06:55:38 PM  
LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?
 
2013-10-11 06:59:27 PM  
Um, back it up? Is that a gay euphemism? What exactly might that entail? Ooops, entail....I did it again.

I'm done.
 
2013-10-11 07:07:59 PM  

fusillade762: I hear the Saudis have a test for that...


www.eclipsetours.com

That's funny... wait, what?!?!
 
2013-10-11 07:13:47 PM  
If someone is claiming legal relief from a law or regulation...why would anyone think it was unusual to seek proof that you actually fall into a legally protected catagory?
 
2013-10-11 07:16:50 PM  

you_idiot: LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?


Intersex is when someone is born with any combination of both male and female sexual characteristics, such as hermaphrodites (both a penis and a vaginal opening) with varying degrees of maleness/femaleness.

/is intersex
//born that way
///if it freaks you out, block away
////I have no time for you
 
2013-10-11 07:18:01 PM  

0z79: you_idiot: LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?

Intersex is when someone is born with any combination of both male and female sexual characteristics, such as hermaphrodites (both a penis and a vaginal opening) with varying degrees of maleness/femaleness.

/is intersex
//born that way
///if it freaks you out, block away
////I have no time for you


In case you were still wondering... No, it is not fun at all. Rather miserable, actually.
 
2013-10-11 07:18:35 PM  

hasty ambush: TuteTibiImperes: EmmaLou: Not in US.  If your story sounds pretty much legit, most of the time you're approved.  Even if the asylum officer thinks there's something hinky with your story (like they JUST heard the exact same story down to the details earlier that day) many immigration judges will just approve the asylum anyway.

Hooray America?

I have no problem with that.  I'd say we should open our borders more anyway.  Immigration was one of the driving forces that made our country great in the first place, let's keep it going.
Fine as long as we go back to the same level of Federal social welfare programs that we had "back then".  Immigrants can get expensive.  That is why  most Europeans nations are even tougher on immigration than we are. Those social welfare programs they have for citizens are expensive enough without the added expensive of non-citizens. Many EU countries require you to have private medical insurance, as an immigrant, for a period of time before you are allowed to use the government one.

End of free NHS care for migrants under new bill
Major restrictions on migrants' free access to the NHS are to be introduced.


Even tougher than we are??  For a 1st or 2nd world country, the US is about as easy as it gets. I'm all for immigration, lets get the best immigrants we can.
 
2013-10-11 07:22:01 PM  

0z79: 0z79: you_idiot: LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?

Intersex is when someone is born with any combination of both male and female sexual characteristics, such as hermaphrodites (both a penis and a vaginal opening) with varying degrees of maleness/femaleness.

/is intersex
//born that way
///if it freaks you out, block away
////I have no time for you

In case you were still wondering... No, it is not fun at all. Rather miserable, actually.


Not freaked out at all. Sorry to hear it's miserable. Just wondering what the term meant.
 
2013-10-11 07:23:24 PM  

0z79: you_idiot: LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?

Intersex is when someone is born with any combination of both male and female sexual characteristics, such as hermaphrodites (both a penis and a vaginal opening) with varying degrees of maleness/femaleness.

/is intersex
//born that way
///if it freaks you out, block away
////I have no time for you


Well your name is Chris, so you have that going for you.
 
2013-10-11 07:25:09 PM  

fusillade762: I hear the Saudis have a test for that...


I can't find a screegrab of it, but I remember a while back The Daily Show had a bit about people in Texas wishing to adopt being asked to prove they  aren't gay, and their example question was:

"At first I was afraid, I was __________."

A) petrified
B) I don't know

/I guess that test can go both ways...
 
2013-10-11 07:33:09 PM  
I had a coworker that had to deal with that in Canada.
She had the hardest time getting permanent residence status. I think she said something about getting married would be her only option for staying in the country. I suggested she marry her BFF Andrew and she said that for her to stay it would have to be a woman. That was the first time she'd admitted to us that she was gay. That was also the reason for her leaving her home country.

As someone else said upthread, it's quite difficult for these people, often because they come from a place where it's unacceptable to be gay and are often told there is something wrong with them. It's difficult for them to even admit or accept it in general.
 
2013-10-11 07:35:17 PM  

kvinesknows: "'People should accept the statement of sexuality by those who seek asylum. This practice is regrettable and ought to be stopped immediately.' "

why?  no one automatically accepts proof of marriage or birth.  They demand documentation of some kind.

how else are they supposed to prove they are homosexual?


two years worth of browser hsitory
 
2013-10-11 07:39:34 PM  

ariseatex: kvinesknows: "'People should accept the statement of sexuality by those who seek asylum. This practice is regrettable and ought to be stopped immediately.' "

why?  no one automatically accepts proof of marriage or birth.  They demand documentation of some kind.

how else are they supposed to prove they are homosexual?

Quote Steel Magnolias?

Seriously though, many of these asylum seekers are fleeing countries where they will "test" you to see if you're gay, then punish you if this "test" confirms it.  So they try to get asylum in a more "civilised" country, only to be told they have to be "tested" there as well?  It's making them re-live their trauma.

What would be the harm in doing away with the "gay test"?


evrybody will just say they are gay, let me in.
 
2013-10-11 07:40:16 PM  

Radak: fusillade762: I hear the Saudis have a test for that...

I can't find a screegrab of it, but I remember a while back The Daily Show had a bit about people in Texas wishing to adopt being asked to prove they  aren't gay, and their example question was:

"At first I was afraid, I was __________."

A) petrified
B) I don't know

/I guess that test can go both ways...


I'm thinking it would be pretty hard for an unmarried couple to adopt.
 
2013-10-11 07:40:43 PM  

hasty ambush: Fine as long as we go back to the same level of Federal social welfare programs that we had "back then". Immigrants can get expensive. That is why most Europeans nations are even tougher on immigration than we are. Those social welfare programs they have for citizens are expensive enough without the added expensive of non-citizens. Many EU countries require you to have private medical insurance, as an immigrant, for a period of time before you are allowed to use the government one.


So you're suggesting we increase our social welfare programs to where they were before the Republicans gutted them, then open the borders and require immigrants to have the same medical insurance that is currently required under Obamacare?
 
2013-10-11 07:42:36 PM  
I might be willing to screen these applicants on a case by case basis....
 
2013-10-11 07:43:35 PM  
We really don't need to worry. This in in the UK

America is much, much worse as a rule. We go by racial quotas, income, etc.
 
2013-10-11 07:44:43 PM  

iheartscotch: fusillade762: I hear the Saudis have a test for that...

Do they check to see if you weigh the same as a duck ?


Who are you that is so learned in the ways of science?
 
2013-10-11 07:53:34 PM  
www.cultureblues.com
I thought this would be mandatory.
 
2013-10-11 08:01:25 PM  
Okay, but I have to warn you, once you see the videos you'll never be the same.
 
2013-10-11 08:02:47 PM  

SpdrJay: I might be willing to screen these applicants on a case by case basis....


damn, why can't gay guys be hot girls.

did I say that out loud? what do you mean I failed?
 
2013-10-11 08:03:10 PM  

hasty ambush: TuteTibiImperes: think the better solution would be to offer amnesty for everyone here, require that they complete the path to citizenship within a set period of time, ease restrictions making it easier for new people to come here legally, but require that they also complete the path to citizenship within a set number of years after coming over, or else they have to leave.

I think just issuing a work visa is a better way,.  Believe or not not everybody, including illegals, who comes here wants to be a citizen.  They send a lot of money back home and are building houses back the home country.

Those that want citizenship got the back of the line behind all those who first arrived legally and they have to met the same requirements

Also we need to do away with the option of dual citizenship in this country-pick one, no hedging you bets.


0z79: you_idiot: LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex)


Wait, there's an "I" now? What's intersex? Is it fun?

Intersex is when someone is born with any combination of both male and female sexual characteristics, such as hermaphrodites (both a penis and a vaginal opening) with varying degrees of maleness/femaleness.

/is intersex
//born that way
///if it freaks you out, block away
////I have no time for you


img.fark.net
Your intersex friend!
 
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