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(Sports Illustrated)   Two of baseball's most storied franchises compete in the NLCS - the Los Angeles Dodgers at the St. Louis Cardinals, Mattingly's men in blue vs. Matheny's men in red, Greinke vs. Kelly on the mound. Game 1 discussion thread (8:37pm EDT, TBS)   ( divider line
    More: Cool, Zack Greinke, NL Championship Series, Dodgers, Cardinals, Mike Matheny, Don Mattingly, Andre Ethier, Clayton Kershaw  
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2013-10-12 01:42:14 AM  
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2013-10-12 01:26:00 AM  
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2013-10-12 10:19:36 AM  
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red5ish: The Bestest: red5ish: Opening Day payrolls 2013
(Major League contracts plus pro-rated signing bonuses):
 St Louis:          $116,790,787
Los Angeles:    $216,753,286

Source: Cot's Baseball Contracts


There is a huge disparity in payroll. There is a certain elegance and efficiency associated with lower costs achieving similar results. Arguably the Cardinals are a more efficient baseball organization.

The way baseball structures its contracts, with younger players who are amazingly productive getting the shaft, is what allows some teams to do very well with a low payroll.  You shaft enough young guys, you can be very successful with a small payroll.

Matt Carpenter, Matt Adams, Shelby Miller, Lance Lynn, and John Jay making a COMBINED $2.5 million this year?
2013-10-12 02:47:19 AM  
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Tarheel_Madness: Abundantly clear... Pictures on ESPN show otherwise.

A video is worth a thousand pictures, especially when you can look at multiple angles to reconstruct the moment-by-moment action.  From what I've seen, Ellis's elbow might--might--have brushed Molina's glove, but it's hardly cut and dry in favor of the Cardinals.  Not that I have a problem with calling it an out; if the only way to avoid the tag is by ramming the guy with the ball, you don't deserve the base.
2013-10-12 02:01:06 AM  
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killdawabbitt: Regardless of the fact that the glove did indeed touch him, please show me the MLB rule that states the glove has to touch the runner for them to be out. He was tagged out as the entire arm holding the ball touched the runner.

Rule 7.08 Any runner is out when-- (c) he is tagged, when the ball is alive, while off his base.

And a "tag" is defined in Rule 2.00 as follows:

A TAG is the action of a fielder in touching a base with his body while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove; or touching a runner with the ball, or with his hand or glove holding the ball, while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove. (emphasis mine)
2013-10-12 12:18:41 AM  
1 vote:
I can hardly see straight.  I hope this ends soon.
2013-10-12 12:12:04 AM  
1 vote:
Molina did not make that tag. The throw beat him, but he never got tagged. Wrong call there.
2013-10-12 12:11:30 AM  
1 vote:
Great throw, no tag.
2013-10-12 12:02:58 AM  
1 vote:
Jay, you just lost the game. Congrats.
2013-10-11 10:22:48 PM  
1 vote:
Joe Buck isn't that bad at all. His haters are just more vocal than the people who think he's good. Haters gonna hate.
2013-10-11 09:08:05 PM  
1 vote:
C'mon Blue.  One more.  One more for me.  One more for Vin. One more.
2013-10-11 08:15:50 PM  
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2013-10-11 07:57:47 PM  
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Darth_Lukecash: If you wanna know dangerous...I'n a Cards fan in Dodger territory...(Actually Angels, since I'm in Santa Ana...but you know)

Living in Santa Ana is dangerous enough.
2013-10-11 07:48:00 PM  
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Peaceboy: I was pleased enough with the outcome the last time they did this.

I prefer 1985, as pictured above.
2013-10-11 07:45:23 PM  
1 vote:
Can we all agree on one thing: the TBS announcers are atrocious. Not bad enough that I'm longing to hear Joe Buck...but damn do they suck. At least get the players names right!
2013-10-11 06:35:02 PM  
1 vote:
This is going to be a great series.

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2013-10-11 04:17:35 PM  
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Lionel Mandrake: Go not-Dodgers!


/my favorite team is any one that beats the Dodgers
2013-10-11 03:49:44 PM  
1 vote:
As a Reds fan, can I just root for the stadium to collapse?

/F'ing Cardinals
//Hated Dodgers
2013-10-11 03:46:55 PM  
1 vote:
Go Cards, the Best Fans in Baseball©  are counting on you!

/Had to get that out of the way
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