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2013-10-11 04:36:57 PM
No means no, bro.
 
2013-10-11 04:50:01 PM
Sincere or not, you have to admire the way that kid hit all the right notes, which only goes to show that a college kid's sense of PR damage control is better than most politicians'.
 
2013-10-11 04:53:12 PM
I hope someone GHB's him into sweet sweet poop-white-the-next-AM love.
 
2013-10-11 04:53:39 PM
I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.
 
2013-10-11 04:58:08 PM
Indeed many of the great satirists worked under such violent pretenses.

It is said that Voltaire wrote Candide while raping a bevy of drunk 17 year-old coeds from Vassar, which is weird because not  only did Vassar not allow men to enroll at that time but they didn't allow ANYONE to enroll at that time.
 
2013-10-11 05:23:09 PM
Do you think Voltaire had to stand for such criticism?

NO!

STAND FOR SATIRE, DR. BROGLOSS!
 
2013-10-11 05:25:17 PM
I'm sure some female will come forward and add that email to her lawsuit evidence.
 
2013-10-11 05:37:04 PM
He really should get together with the coont punt sister. I think she would encourage her members to keep quiet about a little rape so the sorerity wouldn't look uncool.
 
2013-10-11 05:39:00 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


I disagree. With the exception of a single fraternity, all the social frats were exactly this. The non-social frats (like the business one or whatever), were normal networking crap.

Sororities were filled with either vapid airheads, utter snobby biatches, or annoying overly cheerful girls set on permasqueal. And whores. I mean that in pretty much the literal sense. The only reason some folks didn't charge is because there was too much competition for free. Not that it's bad or anything.
 
2013-10-11 05:40:37 PM
LOL CONSERVATIVE HUMOR
 
2013-10-11 05:42:27 PM
Was he talking about rape or rape rape?
 
2013-10-11 05:43:40 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


My college doesn't have fraternities, so I'm unfamiliar with their douchebaggery... Sort of. Because we were so close to the beach, and right below Arizona, there was Spring Break.

Also, since I studied Architecture, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-11 05:45:49 PM
Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker.
 
2013-10-11 05:46:00 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


It's the only place they can just be themselves.
 
2013-10-11 05:47:22 PM

lockers: Was he talking about rape or rape rape?


The email said no rape, so obviously rape rape is OK.
 
2013-10-11 05:49:14 PM
rapebait rapebait.

Where's Beagley Beagley to get him out of this?
 
2013-10-11 05:50:18 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: With the exception of a single fraternity, all the social frats were exactly this. The non-social frats (like the business one or whatever), were normal networking crap.


Are you saying academic frats aren't like other frats?

/demented and sad, but social
 
2013-10-11 05:51:55 PM
Bullshiat apology is bullshait.  Notice he apologized for the "pain and embarassment" he put on his community instead of apologizing for the behavior itself.  I was an RA in college, and helping some of my residents deal with the college Greek rape culture (aka college Greek culture) leaves me with no sympathy.  Frats are not held to the standards that they should be.
 
2013-10-11 05:52:46 PM
Matthew ended his email, saying "I will conduct myself to more honorably reflect the ideals of Georgia Tech in the future."

How 'bout you conduct yourself to more honorably reflect the behavior expected of a decent human being in the future? Would that kill you? Is that too much to ask?

PC LOAD LETTER: cheerful girls set on permasqueal


*snert*
 
2013-10-11 05:52:46 PM

TwoBeersOneCan: Bullshiat apology is bullshait.  Notice he apologized for the "pain and embarassment" he put on his community instead of apologizing for the behavior itself.  I was an RA in college, and helping some of my residents deal with the college Greek rape culture (aka college Greek culture) leaves me with no sympathy.  Frats are not held to the standards that they should be.


In fact, the only thing more embarrassing is some idiot spelling "embarrassment" with one "r."
 
2013-10-11 05:53:42 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.
 
2013-10-11 05:59:23 PM

ramblinwreck: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.


I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.  Every. Single. One.
 
2013-10-11 05:59:35 PM
I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt
 
2013-10-11 06:01:45 PM

ten foiled hats: Are you saying academic frats aren't like other frats?


At my school, they were normal. Assholes in any group, but mostly they were nerds.
 
2013-10-11 06:03:28 PM

iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt


I understand the barely concealed homosexuality. Hell, my marriage is full of barely concealed heterosexuality.
 
2013-10-11 06:04:35 PM

iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt


The Sigma Nu (or whatever stupid random combo of Greek letters) guys on my floor seriously stuck those mini bats up each other's asses while pledging. And freely admitted it while drunk one day. Another frat had an actual circle jerk over a pizza as their initiation, as told me by a sorority sister who dated one for years.
 
2013-10-11 06:04:50 PM
"Misogynistic behavior is everywhere online and unfortunately, my attempt to ridicule it in an immature and outrageous satire backfired terribly..."

Riiiiight. There's no way that email was meant as satirical. That's a frat boy's best attempt at damage control. Probably dad told him what to say.
 
2013-10-11 06:08:45 PM

CygnusDarius: I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.


The dumbest guy in my fraternity became an architect after he flunked out of dental school.

Then he fell in with a gang...

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-11 06:09:28 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt

I understand the barely concealed homosexuality. Hell, my marriage is full of barely concealed heterosexuality.


I thought marriage was barely concealed celibacy.
 
2013-10-11 06:09:41 PM
Newsflash: college aged idiot writes stupid e-mail!  Why is this news worthy again?
 
2013-10-11 06:10:00 PM
We're not offended because your joke was appalling or immoral.  We're offended because your joke wasn't funny.
 
2013-10-11 06:12:02 PM

iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.


The barely concealed homosexuality was the only thing I did get about the fraternities.

/Too bad I was an clumsy ugly geek.  Missed out on all the fun.
 
2013-10-11 06:15:26 PM
Relevant:

www.lolwtfcomics.com


Also, that was not an apology. That was a non-apology. That was a Rush Limbaugh "apology". That was "I'm sorry you were offended, I was only kidding."

Little asshole. I hope he flunks and ends up working in a McDonald's forever.
 
2013-10-11 06:15:48 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


Seconded.
 
2013-10-11 06:17:34 PM
i705.photobucket.com

/DNRTFA
//Just likes comics
 
2013-10-11 06:22:08 PM

CygnusDarius: Also, since I studied Architecture Computer Science, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...


FTFM.  

/Had one professor who made every project due at 9 AM.  I would usually roll out of bed between noon and 3:00 that semester.
//I wake up earlier now on the West Coast than I did on the East Coast.
///Yes, even when I sleep in until 2 on the weekends.
 
2013-10-11 06:25:01 PM

Precision Boobery: CygnusDarius: I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.

The dumbest guy in my fraternity became an architect after he flunked out of dental school.

Then he fell in with a gang...

[img.photobucket.com image 378x378]


narwhaler.com
 
2013-10-11 06:31:04 PM

ZeroCorpse: Also, that was not an apology. That was a non-apology. That was a Rush Limbaugh "apology". That was "I'm sorry you were offended, I was only kidding."

I am writing in reference to a recent email that I sent to members of the Phi Kappa Tau fraternity that has recently received extensive media attention. The content of this email was offensive and it should never have been written.

I am deeply sorry for the pain and embarrassment my actions and lack of judgement have caused the students at Georgia Tech and my Phi Kappa Tau brotherhood as well as those who otherwise came into contact with the email.


I know, right? Total non-apology.

What an asshole.
 
2013-10-11 06:33:12 PM

Shostie: ZeroCorpse: Also, that was not an apology. That was a non-apology. That was a Rush Limbaugh "apology". That was "I'm sorry you were offended, I was only kidding."

I am writing in reference to a recent email that I sent to members of the Phi Kappa Tau fraternity that has recently received extensive media attention. The content of this email was offensive and it should never have been written.

I am deeply sorry for the pain and embarrassment my actions and lack of judgement have caused the students at Georgia Tech and my Phi Kappa Tau brotherhood as well as those who otherwise came into contact with the email.

I know, right? Total non-apology.

What an asshole.


thankyoueurope.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-11 06:34:25 PM

TheTranceFan: "Misogynistic behavior is everywhere online and unfortunately, my attempt to ridicule it in an immature and outrageous satire backfired terribly..."

Riiiiight. There's no way that email was meant as satirical. That's a frat boy's best attempt at damage control. Probably dad told him what to say.


As much as I hate the "bro frat boys" and their culture I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  The email wasn't really all that bad aside from the "luring rapebait" which we can only speculate on the inside meaning of that.  Yes it's damage control but I think people get a little to hysterical when they smell chum in the water.
 
2013-10-11 06:36:31 PM
And this, folks, is why we remember to use our brains before opening our mouths or setting fingers to keyboards.

/A life lesson many of us could stand to learn
 
2013-10-11 06:39:23 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


When I was stationed in San Diego, we used to go walk the row of frat houses down on Mission Beach and crash the parties as we found them.   Those frat guys never figured it out.

So I like frat guys.

/ Beer.
 
2013-10-11 06:48:45 PM
If I had it to do all over again in college, I would have killed way more frat boys...
 
2013-10-11 06:51:40 PM

IRQ12: TheTranceFan: "Misogynistic behavior is everywhere online and unfortunately, my attempt to ridicule it in an immature and outrageous satire backfired terribly..."

Riiiiight. There's no way that email was meant as satirical. That's a frat boy's best attempt at damage control. Probably dad told him what to say.

As much as I hate the "bro frat boys" and their culture I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  The email wasn't really all that bad aside from the "luring rapebait" which we can only speculate on the inside meaning of that.  Yes it's damage control but I think people get a little to hysterical when they smell chum in the water.


This.

His e-mail wasn't nearly as appalling as that "rape can be a good thing" editorial a few years where the author (don't remember if he was a frat boy) opined that rape wasn't all that bad because it allowed ugly or fat women to get laid. And that wasn't just some private e-mail that went viral. That was printed in the campus farking newspaper.
 
2013-10-11 07:01:46 PM
"It was just a joke"

Probably the 2nd oldest non-apology, after "I'm sorry you're upset"
 
2013-10-11 07:04:36 PM

CygnusDarius: ramblinwreck: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.  Every. Single. One.


I don't always avoid generalizations, but when I do...
 
2013-10-11 07:11:01 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt

I understand the barely concealed homosexuality. Hell, my marriage is full of barely concealed heterosexuality.


I'm surprised that a modern marriage has any sexuality....

/ I keed
 
2013-10-11 07:14:28 PM
This ALWAYS happens when we talk about generalizations!
 
2013-10-11 07:15:02 PM

ramblinwreck: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.


And so, an unrepentant douchebag and a vapid coont have found each other somehow in this crazy world. Can this be love?
 
2013-10-11 07:15:20 PM

CygnusDarius: ramblinwreck: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.  Every. Single. One.


This could be the birth of a new meme, happening in real time.

Or not.
 
2013-10-11 07:15:58 PM

NutWrench: This ALWAYS happens when we talk about generalizations!


You TFers are always making absurd claims like that.
 
2013-10-11 07:18:04 PM
He actually intended to reference "assault with a friendly weapon".
 
2013-10-11 07:19:26 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

/ nttawwt

The Sigma Nu (or whatever stupid random combo of Greek letters) guys on my floor seriously stuck those mini bats up each other's asses while pledging. And freely admitted it while drunk one day. Another frat had an actual circle jerk over a pizza as their initiation, as told me by a sorority sister who dated one for years.


Sigma Nu is a fraternity. I had a friend join up with them. He never said anything about paddle entering ass; unauthorized or not.

I could see it though. My brother was a frat boy; he got my parents to sponsor some highway grade "no unauthorized parking" signs. We were granted unlimited parking until the end of time. I got tired of dealing with each successive year of frattyness; explaining that I had the right to park in their lot; whenever. And, if they had a problem; to call their charter organization.

/ they always called their charter organization; I just love the expression of shock on the face of a frat boy; when a non-frat member has that kind of pull in their sekrit club
 
2013-10-11 07:19:52 PM

Rent Party: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

When I was stationed in San Diego, we used to go walk the row of frat houses down on Mission Beach and crash the parties as we found them.

?????  Those frat guys never figured it out.

So I like frat guys.

/ Beer.


There are no frat houses in Mission Beach, bro. There isn't even a college nearby. Those are rentals that might have happened to be rented by a frat when you passed by... but probably not.
 
2013-10-11 07:25:05 PM

IRQ12: The email wasn't really all that bad


Is this the same email that threatens pledges with expulsion if they don't find female guests, get them too drunk to say no, then ejaculate in them, and then get rid of them?
A short guide consist of the 7 E's of HOOKING UP! 1. Encounter (spot a girl or group of girls) 2. Engage (go up and talk to them) 3. Escalate (ask them to dance, or ask them to go up to your room or find a couch, depending on what kind of party) 4. Erection (GET HARD) 5. Excavate (should be self-explanatory) 6. Ejaculate (should also be self explanatory) 7. Expunge (send them out of your room and on their way out when you are finished. IF ANYTHING EVER FAILS, GO GET MORE ALCOHOL.

That email?
 
2013-10-11 07:25:05 PM

simkatu: iheartscotch: I never understood fraternities. I get the comradery thing; but, the barely concealed homosexuality? Not so much.

The barely concealed homosexuality was the only thing I did get about the fraternities.

/Too bad I was an clumsy ugly geek.  Missed out on all the fun.


Yeah; frats are businesses. It doesn't matter how ugly or geeky you are; if you've got money, you're in.
 
2013-10-11 07:39:16 PM

BullBearMS: IRQ12: The email wasn't really all that bad

Is this the same email that threatens pledges with expulsion if they don't find female guests, get them too drunk to say no, then ejaculate in them, and then get rid of them?
A short guide consist of the 7 E's of HOOKING UP! 1. Encounter (spot a girl or group of girls) 2. Engage (go up and talk to them) 3. Escalate (ask them to dance, or ask them to go up to your room or find a couch, depending on what kind of party) 4. Erection (GET HARD) 5. Excavate (should be self-explanatory) 6. Ejaculate (should also be self explanatory) 7. Expunge (send them out of your room and on their way out when you are finished. IF ANYTHING EVER FAILS, GO GET MORE ALCOHOL.
That email?


they have to poop on/in them too.
 
2013-10-11 07:43:41 PM

Rent Party: When I was stationed in San Diego, we used to go walk the row of frat houses down on Mission Beach and crash the parties as we found them. Those frat guys never figured it out.


Me and a few fellow tech school buddies did some of that as well back in the late 80s near the University of Minnesota (East Bank).

We were Sigma Theta Epsilon as I recall.

The real frat guys (they werent so terrible) bought it entirely and we drank a lot of their beer.
 
2013-10-11 07:44:00 PM

pedobearapproved: Rent Party: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

When I was stationed in San Diego, we used to go walk the row of frat houses down on Mission Beach and crash the parties as we found them. ?????  Those frat guys never figured it out.

So I like frat guys.

/ Beer.

There are no frat houses in Mission Beach, bro. There isn't even a college nearby. Those are rentals that might have happened to be rented by a frat when you passed by... but probably not.


Dude, there are three good sized colleges in San Diego.  SDSU, UCSD, and SDU, and all three participate in the greek program.  In 1989, there were a row of frat houses just north of the roller coaster, right off the boardwalk.  They had their freaking greek symbols hanging over the doors, and they had parties on a regular basis.  I lived on Ostend, a few blocks north of that, on the harbor side, and took advantage of it.

Were they the chapter houses themselves?  No idea.  Are they there now?  No idea.

/ Lawn.  Get off.
 
2013-10-11 08:00:55 PM
i do believe he was just joking.  Its not like frat members have to reach some quota of rapes per semester, and thusly have to disseminate policy on how to achieve said rapes.

Though, if your'e gonna try and be funny on shock value and crassness, at least have some wit and satire i there.   Wasn't amusing in the slightest, even on the level that it was intended to be.
 
2013-10-11 08:01:02 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I disagree. With the exception of a single fraternity, all the social frats were exactly this. The non-social frats (like the business one or whatever), were normal networking crap.

Sororities were filled with either vapid airheads, utter snobby biatches, or annoying overly cheerful girls set on permasqueal. And whores. I mean that in pretty much the literal sense. The only reason some folks didn't charge is because there was too much competition for free. Not that it's bad or anything.


SO VERY MUCH THIS. I'm back in school (at 42!) and am ready to go to jail for knifing each and every one of these assaholic idiots in the neck.
 
2013-10-11 08:06:39 PM

CygnusDarius: ramblinwreck: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single sorority girl I knew back in university was a vapid coont.  Every. Single. One.

I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single architecture student I knew back in university was a a god amongst men.  Every. Single. One.


I don't try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single farker i knew back in the day was a derpaherp derp derpity flerp. Every. Single. One.
 
2013-10-11 08:20:07 PM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


I've known some awesome ones, but even they admitted most of their brothers were sleazy horn dogs.
 
2013-10-11 08:33:50 PM

pedobearapproved: BullBearMS: IRQ12: The email wasn't really all that bad

Is this the same email that threatens pledges with expulsion if they don't find female guests, get them too drunk to say no, then ejaculate in them, and then get rid of them?
A short guide consist of the 7 E's of HOOKING UP! 1. Encounter (spot a girl or group of girls) 2. Engage (go up and talk to them) 3. Escalate (ask them to dance, or ask them to go up to your room or find a couch, depending on what kind of party) 4. Erection (GET HARD) 5. Excavate (should be self-explanatory) 6. Ejaculate (should also be self explanatory) 7. Expunge (send them out of your room and on their way out when you are finished. IF ANYTHING EVER FAILS, GO GET MORE ALCOHOL.
That email?

they have to poop on/in them too.


I think they are supposed to dig something out of them.
 
2013-10-11 09:39:57 PM

vudukungfu: No means no, bro.


well, technically, if they are not awake, they dont say no.  just sayin, bro.
 
2013-10-11 09:42:06 PM
After that headline, I'd rather see subby beaten with a claw hammer than I would whomever this article is about.
 
2013-10-11 10:01:13 PM

ZeroCorpse: Relevant:

[www.lolwtfcomics.com image 500x830]


Also, that was not an apology. That was a non-apology. That was a Rush Limbaugh "apology". That was "I'm sorry you were offended, I was only kidding."

Little asshole. I hope he flunks and ends up working in a McDonald's forever.


Or even worse, he graduates and still ends up working at McDonald's forever, strapped with a humongous debt that he can never pay off.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:16 PM
-The original wasn't satire, though the word rapebait was obviously used for humor.

-Given recent coverage, this guy handled it well with his apology.

-The furor over this was, and is, just retarded.

-But my page click and post here only helps validate it further.
 
2013-10-11 10:15:38 PM
hammer85:
What an asshole.

[thankyoueurope.files.wordpress.com image 636x346]


Perfect! You made me laugh and I needed that today.  Thanks.
 
m00
2013-10-11 10:18:44 PM
"Oh, that was a typo. I meant grapebait. This is an internal term we use, because the young women in the greek system are as sophisticated as fine wine."
 
2013-10-11 10:25:07 PM
I just want to load up a bus full of horny women who each have some disgusting incurable dick eating VD and drop them off at a different frat house every week.

The world would thank me later!
 
2013-10-11 10:48:29 PM

FarkQued: I just want to load up a bus full of horny women who each have some disgusting incurable dick eating VD and drop them off at a different frat house every week.

The world would thank me later!


You keep that shiat like luggage.
 
2013-10-11 10:51:55 PM

gunga galunga: IRQ12: TheTranceFan: "Misogynistic behavior is everywhere online and unfortunately, my attempt to ridicule it in an immature and outrageous satire backfired terribly..."

Riiiiight. There's no way that email was meant as satirical. That's a frat boy's best attempt at damage control. Probably dad told him what to say.

As much as I hate the "bro frat boys" and their culture I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  The email wasn't really all that bad aside from the "luring rapebait" which we can only speculate on the inside meaning of that.  Yes it's damage control but I think people get a little to hysterical when they smell chum in the water.

This.

His e-mail wasn't nearly as appalling as that "rape can be a good thing" editorial a few years where the author (don't remember if he was a frat boy) opined that rape wasn't all that bad because it allowed ugly or fat women to get laid. And that wasn't just some private e-mail that went viral. That was printed in the campus farking newspaper.



The article missed or intentionally decided to overlook what is probably the most important part of his apology, which was the explanation of why he used the ters, "rapebate".

From his apology --->  "One particular term originated from the nickname I received as a pledge, which was "4th Grade Rape Bait" due to my youthful looks and the connotation of what may happen to someone like me in prison. This became an internal fraternity joke and the term found its way into several communications, inappropriately and even nonchalantly. In retrospect, it was a nickname I should not have embraced but continuing to use the term was my fault. As a leader I should have put a stop to it in any reference."

If you place the email in context, one that was sent to his fraternity brothers, who were the source of his nickname, the term is not as bad as otherwise appears. All of the that people who were supposed to receive the original email understood the context.  It was only after it was leaked and people viewed it out-of-context that is seems harsh.

I compare this to the often posted "PITA Prison" headlines/comments which often are seen gracing the  this very website.  I don't think that anyone (hopefully) on this site endorses prison rape.  Instead I view PITA as being a running Fark joke.  One that may be misunderstood if viewed by people new to Fark or by people outside this rather large community.

In fact, if someone complained about such, we could expect that a Farker might even post this image, as the standard response:

farm1.staticflickr.com

I am willing this give this kid a pass on this one, ranking it the "inside joke"/ "joke taken out-of-context" department.  His other comments in the email simply prove that he belongs to a fraternity of boys that don't know how to interact with women and that he lacks satire skills.
 
2013-10-11 10:56:23 PM
Speaking as a Georgia Tech alum and brother at that particular chapter, I'd like to address a few items in this thread:

1) Yes, he knows he did something stupid and he's genuinely sorry, but you have to remember this is an an engineering school so that's about the best level of prose you're going to get.

2) Frat homosexuality: I only knew of one gay brother when I was there. He's dead now. We were to busy studying to rape anyone, male or female.

3) Frat generalizations: There's enough bad behavior to give to birth to these perceptions, but there's also plenty of self regulation in practice too, but that doesn't make the headlines. We had to recalibrate each other on a regular basis, that's part of the process of maturing. As for ALL frat boys being jerks, well, only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Enjoy your trumped up outrage while you can, and remember, you're only one dumb email / tweet / selfie away from being in the same situation, regardless of affiliation or walk of life.
 
2013-10-11 11:34:22 PM
CygnusDarius:

Also, since I studied Architecture, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]


"Fraternity" was a studio. You didnt need a bed. A sheet of cardboard to sleep on under your table is fine for powernaps.  The only reason the dunkin donuts down the road was open 24/7 was for us. Nighttime is for modelmaking and sketching on the walls if you ran out of onion skin. 3AM was wiffleball in the hallway.

Daylight? that was for taking naps during arch survey (it was always nice and dark during the slidesshow). I don't think I even ever attended the Pro Practice.

By third year, when core classes we over, the rest of the campus ceased to exist. By thesis, the only other people in the world that i knew of as entities were the other 12 of us in our studio. My family was a distant memory. I think they may have sent pizza once.
 
2013-10-11 11:35:59 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Sincere or not, you have to admire the way that kid hit all the right notes, which only goes to show that a college kid's sense of PR damage control is better than most politicians'.


Yeah, his response wasn't coached.  It was straight, genuine from the heart stuff, bro.
 
2013-10-11 11:36:12 PM

meyerkev: CygnusDarius: Also, since I studied Architecture Computer Science, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...

FTFM.  

/Had one professor who made every project due at 9 AM.  I would usually roll out of bed between noon and 3:00 that semester.
//I wake up earlier now on the West Coast than I did on the East Coast.
///Yes, even when I sleep in until 2 on the weekends.


Bed? You used a BED???? The only "bed" that i had was a .dwg block that i imported into my floorplans.
 
2013-10-12 12:00:47 AM

LemSkroob: CygnusDarius:

Also, since I studied Architecture, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

"Fraternity" was a studio. You didnt need a bed. A sheet of cardboard to sleep on under your table is fine for powernaps.  The only reason the dunkin donuts down the road was open 24/7 was for us. Nighttime is for modelmaking and sketching on the walls if you ran out of onion skin. 3AM was wiffleball in the hallway.

Daylight? that was for taking naps during arch survey (it was always nice and dark during the slidesshow). I don't think I even ever attended the Pro Practice.

By third year, when core classes we over, the rest of the campus ceased to exist. By thesis, the only other people in the world that i knew of as entities were the other 12 of us in our studio. My family was a distant memory. I think they may have sent pizza once.


My bed littlered in all the stuff I needed to make the models and papers, and stuff. I think I had more coffee (couldn't stand the taste of power drinks, and I quit drinking soda in High-school) in my blood than I had blood.

By the time I was doing my thesis, also my friends and family were a distant memory.
 
2013-10-12 12:04:11 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: Bullshiat apology is bullshait.  Notice he apologized for the "pain and embarassment" he put on his community instead of apologizing for the behavior itself.  I was an RA in college, and helping some of my residents deal with the college Greek rape culture (aka college Greek culture) leaves me with no sympathy.  Frats are not held to the standards that

banned like they should be.

fixed
Schools shouldn't associate themselves with non-academic fraternities.
 
2013-10-12 12:23:11 AM

miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.


The entire Greek system at my college was so obnoxious and awful (in the most stereotypical, dumb college movie way possible) that their douchebaggery turned me off from joining any of them as a freshman. Which is saying something, because I was an absolute shiat when I was 18/19.
 
2013-10-12 12:42:58 AM

bighairyguy: Speaking as a Georgia Tech alum and brother at that particular chapter, I'd like to address a few items in this thread:

1) Yes, he knows he did something stupid and he's genuinely sorry, but you have to remember this is an an engineering school so that's about the best level of prose you're going to get.

2) Frat homosexuality: I only knew of one gay brother when I was there. He's dead now. We were to busy studying to rape anyone, male or female.

3) Frat generalizations: There's enough bad behavior to give to birth to these perceptions, but there's also plenty of self regulation in practice too, but that doesn't make the headlines. We had to recalibrate each other on a regular basis, that's part of the process of maturing. As for ALL frat boys being jerks, well, only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Enjoy your trumped up outrage while you can, and remember, you're only one dumb email / tweet / selfie away from being in the same situation, regardless of affiliation or walk of life.


Looks like college was quite a while ago. The frats of today are still douchebags, even the ones at Tech. I knew a few of the frats, shiatheels the lot of them.
 
2013-10-12 12:43:31 AM

T.rex: i do believe he was just joking.  Its not like frat members have to reach some quota of rapes per semester, and thusly have to disseminate policy on how to achieve said rapes.

Though, if your'e gonna try and be funny on shock value and crassness, at least have some wit and satire i there.   Wasn't amusing in the slightest, even on the level that it was intended to be.


Totally agree. It was a "joke" but just insensitive and immature. Not clever or funny. They probably sit around and tell each other fart jokes and watermelon and fried chicken racist jokes then open up a case of beer and watch some "Ow, My Balls" type show.
 
2013-10-12 12:51:22 AM
Such a thing never would have happened at this frat:

stores.homestead.com
 
2013-10-12 01:01:14 AM

FeatheredSun: -The original wasn't satire, though the word rapebait was obviously used for humor.

-Given recent coverage, this guy handled it well with his apology.

-The furor over this was, and
is, just retarded.


FTFY. Also, we need to know the guy's last name too so that we can put him on the employment blacklist.
 
2013-10-12 01:06:16 AM

wallywam1: T.rex: i do believe he was just joking.  Its not like frat members have to reach some quota of rapes per semester, and thusly have to disseminate policy on how to achieve said rapes.

Though, if your'e gonna try and be funny on shock value and crassness, at least have some wit and satire i there.   Wasn't amusing in the slightest, even on the level that it was intended to be.

Totally agree. It was a "joke" but just insensitive and immature.


It absolutely was a joke. Even though I believe the author was an idiotic misogynistic douchebag, I don't believe he's a rapist.
But, that's the thing - it's not just about him. What about that other guy in his frat? The sociopathic one who is wondering if he can pass among these bros or whether they'll realize he's different and dangerous? The one that wants to drag a passed out girl up to a bedroom and wonders if his frat bros will bust in and break his face, or whether they'll guard the door from her friends? That guy is going to read this "joke" email and know that he'll be safe from repercussions when he rapes someone.
So, that's the point - it's not that the author is a rapist, but that he makes it easier for his friends to commit rape. And that's why he, and they, should be outted.
 
2013-10-12 01:10:58 AM

LemSkroob: meyerkev: CygnusDarius: Also, since I studied Architecture Computer Science, we only functioned in nighttime, but during the day...

FTFM.  

/Had one professor who made every project due at 9 AM.  I would usually roll out of bed between noon and 3:00 that semester.
//I wake up earlier now on the West Coast than I did on the East Coast.
///Yes, even when I sleep in until 2 on the weekends.

Bed? You used a BED???? The only "bed" that i had was a .dwg block that i imported into my floorplans.


Well, I mounted the monitors on the head of the bed because my room wasn't big enough to have floorspace for a desk and chair.  So my bed was my desk.

/Still is when I'm working on my laptop.
 
2013-10-12 01:27:16 AM

Spaced Lion: Such a thing never would have happened at this frat:

[stores.homestead.com image 500x500]


what about Omega Moo?

/Poindexter on the violin
 
2013-10-12 01:37:17 AM

quizzical: [i705.photobucket.com image 500x243]

/DNRTFA
//Just likes comics


I never thought I would like a comic about Hawkeye but there it is.
 
2013-10-12 04:09:11 AM

IRQ12: TheTranceFan: "Misogynistic behavior is everywhere online and unfortunately, my attempt to ridicule it in an immature and outrageous satire backfired terribly..."

Riiiiight. There's no way that email was meant as satirical. That's a frat boy's best attempt at damage control. Probably dad told him what to say.

As much as I hate the "bro frat boys" and their culture I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.  The email wasn't really all that bad aside from the "luring rapebait" which we can only speculate on the inside meaning of that.  Yes it's damage control but I think people get a little to hysterical when they smell chum in the water.


mmmmmmmmmmmm is that fresh chum I smell?
 
2013-10-12 04:13:55 AM
It is only satire if you POST in the document that it is sartre.
 
2013-10-12 04:43:53 AM

TwoBeersOneCan: Bullshiat apology is bullshait.  Notice he apologized for the "pain and embarassment" he put on his community instead of apologizing for the behavior itself.  I was an RA in college, and helping some of my residents deal with the college Greek rape culture (aka college Greek culture) leaves me with no sympathy.  Frats are not held to the standards that they should be.


so how many times did he get spanked?
 
2013-10-12 05:20:36 AM

prjindigo: It is only satire if you POST in the document that it is sartre.


Sure, that works for fraternity emails, but philosophy papers might get a little confusing.

/ this post is sartre, by the way
 
2013-10-12 07:24:01 AM
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

Say Bro, one more time
 
2013-10-12 07:41:17 AM

serial_crusher: prjindigo: It is only satire if you POST in the document that it is sartre.

Sure, that works for fraternity emails, but philosophy papers might get a little confusing.

/ this post is sartre, by the way


symbolism... SSSSSSSsssssssssssssssssymbolism...

"this HUGE FREAKING GUY!!!"

"i'll tip her!"
 
2013-10-12 07:44:26 AM

Allen. The end.: PC LOAD LETTER: miss diminutive: I usually try to avoid generalizations and stereotypes, but literally every single frat boy I knew back in university was an unrepentant douchebag. Every. Single. One.

I disagree. With the exception of a single fraternity, all the social frats were exactly this. The non-social frats (like the business one or whatever), were normal networking crap.

Sororities were filled with either vapid airheads, utter snobby biatches, or annoying overly cheerful girls set on permasqueal. And whores. I mean that in pretty much the literal sense. The only reason some folks didn't charge is because there was too much competition for free. Not that it's bad or anything.

SO VERY MUCH THIS. I'm back in school (at 42!) and am ready to go to jail for knifing each and every one of these assaholic idiots in the neck.


Knifing vapid women????? Aren't you supposed to choke them? What kind of a man ARE you?
 
2013-10-12 11:30:05 AM
Hm.  Well, I think that this case clearly shows why your first impulse to put everything in electronic format might not be your best choice.

Had this been a letter, on paper, with one and only one copy posted on the lodge room bulliten board, with some amusing red-marks added, it could be considered a funny satire, perhaps.

Was not a frat man in college but my best friend was, hung with them - like any group, it was a mixed bag, good guys and dirtbags together - most frats at my small school were tolerably tame but there was a lot of BS none the less.

I published a satirical broadsheet from my dorm room for a while, but it was on paper - this was sort of pre-e-mail days - i.e. the Dark Ages.
 
2013-10-12 12:24:18 PM

jso2897: NutWrench: This ALWAYS happens when we talk about generalizations!

You TFers are always making absurd claims like that.


And every single one of you non-TFers always falls for the absurdity.
 
2013-10-12 11:12:00 PM
He's not sorry... he's sorry he got caught.
 
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