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(Daily Mail)   'Fungus on my gastric band made my stomach explode' - Another compelling reason to consider using self control instead of surgery to lose weight   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 130
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2013-10-11 01:07:39 PM
While I'm not sure how seriously to take a Daily Fail article on the matter, it is generally true that not eating quite so much is a better option than someone cutting you open and tinkering with your guts.
 
2013-10-11 01:22:45 PM
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2013-10-11 01:23:35 PM
First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.
 
2013-10-11 01:25:48 PM
I hear getting your spleen removed is a great way to lose weight.
 
2013-10-11 01:29:33 PM

Tr0mBoNe: I hear getting your spleen removed is a great way to lose weight.


I just stapled my mouth shut, and I lost all kinds of weight. The body mod looks kind of kewl, too.

Plus my phone is ringing all day long from all the guys who now want to go out with me. Well, I can't answer it, but it's the thought that counts.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2013-10-11 01:35:05 PM
But fat people can't help it.  It's genetics, hormones, low metabolism, and all sorts of things.  Eating better and moving around more often just aren't viable options for people who are overweight.  Being fat is in no way their fault, and surgery is the only option sometimes.
 
2013-10-11 01:44:13 PM
Well, ya lost weight, didn't ya?

/sheesh... some people
 
2013-10-11 02:51:29 PM
'Gastric fungus band' is the cool band name for today.
 
2013-10-11 02:52:13 PM
Eating keeps the disease at bay.
 
2013-10-11 02:52:20 PM

ShawnDoc: First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.


That happens to most people who lose weight in any fashion.  It is hard to keep from rebounding.  Hell, the 650 pound virgin guy went from 650-220-back to 500.

Personally I went 475-190-back to 250.

The trick is trying to limit your rebound and finding a somewhat healthy plateau point.

Also, you can lose a ton naturally, but it really hard, and even as someone who did it I can't explain who to properly get motivated for it.
 
2013-10-11 02:53:11 PM

Cagey B: While I'm not sure how seriously to take a Daily Fail article on the matter, it is generally true that not eating quite so much is a better option than someone cutting you open and tinkering with your guts.


Telling an obese person to stop eating is like telling someone who is depressed to cheer up.

They may be 100% to blame for their condition but now that they are in it they in almost all cases need help to get out of it. Would you rather your hospital bills or taxes help fund critical emergency care for them or would you rather that they get less expensive intervention by a medical professional?  This intervention very well might include a gastric band.
 
2013-10-11 02:54:19 PM
Amputation is another great way to lose weight. Need to lose 5 lbs, before your class reunion? Lop off a leg...
 
2013-10-11 02:55:32 PM

wee: But fat people can't help it.  It's genetics, hormones, low metabolism, and all sorts of things.  Eating better and moving around more often just aren't viable options for people who are overweight.  Being fat is in no way their fault, and surgery is the only option sometimes.


Eating better and moving around more is a total and complete cure-all for excess weight. Bone structure, genetics, packaged foods, HFCS, marketing, none of those things have anything to do with it. All you have to do is walk a little more and eat a little less and soon you'll be skinny and attractive. It's so easy, anyone can do it. In fact, this is why every single person in the first world is so healthy and right sized.
 
2013-10-11 02:55:59 PM

GoldSpider: Eating keeps the disease at bay.


no no you have to starve a disease
 
2013-10-11 02:56:40 PM

Egoy3k: They may be 100% to blame for their condition but now that they are in it they in almost all cases need help to get out of it. Would you rather your hospital bills or taxes help fund critical emergency care for them or would you rather that they get less expensive intervention by a medical professional?  This intervention very well might include a gastric band.


I will say the fat shaming that occurs (even by many health professionals) usually just depresses fat people and makes them want to eat more.  I had an amazing nutritionist who was super supportive and tried to help facilitate the weight loss, and I think that was the most helpful part.
 
2013-10-11 02:57:10 PM

Sybarite: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x282]

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Came to do this.

But 7 comments already logged when I clicked the comments link.... and I kinda knew I was already too late.

I seem to be one of the only people who hold this opinion: The Meaning of Life was the best Monty Python movie, including side projects by members [eg. Time Bandits, Erik the Viking].

// fark off, I'm full
 
2013-10-11 02:57:40 PM

ShawnDoc: First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.


Thats on them. You can "eat through" the surgery. I am going on 10 years now and still have all the weight off.

Sometimes exercise and will power are not an option. It happens and get off your high horses.
 
2013-10-11 02:57:44 PM
No one will miss Chris Christy or New Jersey.
 
2013-10-11 02:58:00 PM
Oh good, a fatty hate thread! I can't wait for everyone to tell me that I should just eat less and exercise more! I totally never tried that!
 
2013-10-11 02:58:02 PM
Always fuller figured, after finishing university, she tipped the scales at an unhealthy 29st

29 stones times 14 pounds per stone equals 406 pounds. Yikes.
 
2013-10-11 02:58:50 PM
GAHHHH.  That last picture made me lose five pounds AND my lunch.
 
2013-10-11 03:00:16 PM

nytmare: Eating better and moving around more is a total and complete cure-all for excess weight. Bone structure, genetics, packaged foods, HFCS, marketing, none of those things have anything to do with it. All you have to do is walk a little more and eat a little less and soon you'll be skinny and attractive. It's so easy, anyone can do it. In fact, this is why every single person in the first world is so healthy and right sized.


It's way easier to blame one's poor health on external factors than it is to try to do something about the problem. The Lesson is, Never Try.
 
2013-10-11 03:00:23 PM
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It's the fungus among us.
 
2013-10-11 03:01:48 PM
I think we're all missing the most important point here...

...Gastric Fungus would make an Awesome band name!
 
2013-10-11 03:03:28 PM

wee: But fat people can't help it.  It's genetics, hormones, low metabolism, and all sorts of things.  Eating better and moving around more often just aren't viable options for people who are overweight.  Being fat is in no way their fault, and surgery is the only option sometimes.


Exactly!  The laws of physics don't apply to fat people.  It's glandular.
 
2013-10-11 03:05:11 PM

sign_of_Zeta: Egoy3k: They may be 100% to blame for their condition but now that they are in it they in almost all cases need help to get out of it. Would you rather your hospital bills or taxes help fund critical emergency care for them or would you rather that they get less expensive intervention by a medical professional?  This intervention very well might include a gastric band.

I will say the fat shaming that occurs (even by many health professionals) usually just depresses fat people and makes them want to eat more.  I had an amazing nutritionist who was super supportive and tried to help facilitate the weight loss, and I think that was the most helpful part.


That's great, and good for you too btw.   In many cases obesity is linked with poverty as well and the patient cannot afford to follow all of the instructions they are given either but one positive person pushing might be enough to get the job done for some people.  In my case I was skirting around in the grey area between chunky and farking disgusting, the main cause of this was my lifestyle. I rent so I don't really have to do a single active thing and I wasn't willing to spend a dime on leisure activity when it could go against my student debt.  Once I was more financially stable I had a really rough time adjusting to doing the active things I had always loved to do and could now afford to do again.

I wasn't really all that far along the road and I had a damn hard time doing it on my own.  It's really easy to claim "Oh you just lack willpower." but I've done some pretty addictive things in my lifetime and never once felt the same desire to continue them that I felt towards playing video games rather than going for a bike ride.
 
2013-10-11 03:06:36 PM
I lost 150 pound of useless flesh in three months. I still have to pay her child support though.

/Down 30 pounds
//20 to go
 
2013-10-11 03:06:53 PM

grandma's famous pot pie recipe: Exactly! The laws of physics don't apply to fat people. It's glandular.


Yeah.  Saliva glands.
 
2013-10-11 03:07:21 PM
Obesity is the cause of how many preventable illnesses?  Anyone who pays for health insurance has a right to be irritated by fat people.
 
2013-10-11 03:08:47 PM

ShawnDoc: First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.


A friend of mine got it, lost so much weight he started to look unhealthy, but then stabilized to a normal weight.
 
2013-10-11 03:11:20 PM
I'm fat, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-10-11 03:13:28 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: ShawnDoc: First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.

A friend of mine got it, lost so much weight he started to look unhealthy, but then stabilized to a normal weight.


The body knows where it should really be at. I lost a crap ton of weight right after mine and just stopped. No matter how much I tried I was done.
 
2013-10-11 03:15:17 PM

Piizzadude: ShawnDoc: First, I admit I don't have a large sample size to draw from, and this is just anecdote.  But every person I know who has gotten some form of gastric bypass/belly band, got ridiculously skinny at first, but ended up overweight again after 5 years or so.

Thats on them. You can "eat through" the surgery. I am going on 10 years now and still have all the weight off.

Sometimes exercise and will power are not an option. It happens and get off your high horses.


I only know one person that has had this sugery. She has kept the weight off for 7-10 years so far but right after sugery she got malnourished and started losing hair and too much weight. Looked sickly for a while but looks much better now.
Her only "complaint" is that she has to drink shots instead of beer now because her stumic can't hold that much liquid at one time.
 
2013-10-11 03:15:44 PM

CaptainCliche: Oh good, a fatty hate thread! I can't wait for everyone to tell me that I should just eat less and exercise more! I totally never tried that!


Did you consistently eat 3-500 calories below your BMR (measured by a medical professional) for several weeks and fail to lose fat?
 
2013-10-11 03:22:21 PM
I miss Gittebass and his declarative statements.

I even printed one out and posted on my mirror. Still fat, but enlightened. Like the Buddha.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2013-10-11 03:22:54 PM

nytmare: Eating better and moving around more is a total and complete cure-all for excess weight. Bone structure, genetics, packaged foods, HFCS, marketing, none of those things have anything to do with it. All you have to do is walk a little more and eat a little less and soon you'll be skinny and attractive. It's so easy, anyone can do it. In fact, this is why every single person in the first world is so healthy and right sized.


You sound fat.
 
2013-10-11 03:24:50 PM

CaptainCliche: I can't wait for everyone to tell me that I should just eat less and exercise more! I totally never tried that!


*shrug* Worked for me. I got tired of looking like I was pregnant, so I quit eating lunch, electing to go for a walk instead. I also started eating fewer burgers, and more Subway. I started a daily routine that never wavers...immediately upon waking up each day I do 75 sit ups, 75 push ups, then I walk my dog 3 miles. When I get home from work, I walk Buddy another 3 miles. Not only did I lose 50 lbs in 5 months, I've kept it off for almost two years, I've developed abs, and my legs are friggin' awesome. But just because it worked for me doesn't mean that it'll work for you. People are different. YMMV.
 
2013-10-11 03:30:43 PM
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2013-10-11 03:31:20 PM

sign_of_Zeta: I will say the fat shaming that occurs (even by many health professionals) usually just depresses fat people and makes them want to eat more. I had an amazing nutritionist who was super supportive and tried to help facilitate the weight loss, and I think that was the most helpful part.


I've recently joined OA myself and started to talk to my therapist more about my food issues. See, my grandmother was a raging alcoholic and most of my aunts and uncles were either drinkers or some other substance abusers. My dad just ate his feelings and raised me the same way (addictive personalities can be hereditary). So now he's diabetic and I've just found out last month that I'm pre-diabetic despite being at a decent weight. It's just the sugary crap that makes me feel oh so good that's messing everything up inside. So at this point I'm treating sugar as an addict would treat beer or pills.
 
2013-10-11 03:36:06 PM

Piizzadude: Sometimes exercise and will power are not an option


Even when it is, why can't surgery also be an option? I'll never understand people who will give folks crap for being fat, then turn around and give them crap for not losing weight the right way (as if that's a thing that exists).

I'm almost beginning to think there are people out there who just aren't happy unless they are giving folks crap for something.
 
2013-10-11 03:37:38 PM

nytmare: wee: But fat people can't help it.  It's genetics, hormones, low metabolism, and all sorts of things.  Eating better and moving around more often just aren't viable options for people who are overweight.  Being fat is in no way their fault, and surgery is the only option sometimes.

Eating better and moving around more is a total and complete cure-all for excess weight. Bone structure, genetics, packaged foods, HFCS, marketing, none of those things have anything to do with it. All you have to do is walk a little more and eat a little less and soon you'll be skinny and attractive. It's so easy, anyone can do it. In fact, this is why every single person in the first world is so healthy and right sized.


Listen, there are a lot of factors that contribute to the ease or difficulty of losing weight.  But the bottom line is, if you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight.  It's not magic.  It's math.
 
2013-10-11 03:38:39 PM
Oh jeeze and another thing... my last nutritionist told me that I wouldn't be allowed to eat any fruit (because zomg sugars!) I got about a month into it before I broke down and ate a huge slice of birthday cake slathered in the thickest helping of butter cream icing. So now I follow her food instructions but allow myself to enjoy a goddamned apple once in a while so I don't fail off the wagon and crack the asphalt.
 
2013-10-11 03:38:44 PM

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Here's the morel of the story.
 
2013-10-11 03:45:12 PM
I started losing weight once my son was born in 2004 and met my goal (100 pounds) in 2008. Gained some back but as long as I can run and cycle, I'm happy with it.

/hated being a fatty
 
2013-10-11 03:47:39 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: I'm almost beginning to think there are people out there who just aren't happy unless they are giving folks crap for something.


And most of them work on the AM dial.

/6 and a half years since surgery
//Still need therapry for the things that made me eat my feelings
 
2013-10-11 03:49:52 PM

safeinsane: I started losing weight once my son was born in 2004 and met my goal (100 pounds) in 2008. Gained some back but as long as I can run and cycle, I'm happy with it.

/hated being a fatty


Yeesh how short are you?
 
2013-10-11 03:50:27 PM
I can't believe that woman in the story, Samantha, is only 27. Yikes!
 
2013-10-11 03:50:31 PM
Did I wake up in 2002? Since when are Farkers in favor of personal responsibility?

Shouldn't we sue the makers of the lapband, win $100 million, and then collect disability and gorge ourselves on the steaks we purchase with foodstamps?
 
2013-10-11 03:50:44 PM

KatjaMouse: Oh jeeze and another thing... my last nutritionist told me that I wouldn't be allowed to eat any fruit (because zomg sugars!) I got about a month into it before I broke down and ate a huge slice of birthday cake slathered in the thickest helping of butter cream icing. So now I follow her food instructions but allow myself to enjoy a goddamned apple once in a while so I don't fail off the wagon and crack the asphalt.


No fruits? I would actually starve.
 
2013-10-11 03:52:39 PM
I think before people have the surgery, they need to see a therapist to see if the person having the surgery has an addictive personality. When I was married, my ex was a food addict, and tired of being fat decided that she wanted to have that surgery and get thin. Her doctor made her go to 2 group classes before they would schedule the surgery. I guess she went in and half assed and bs'd her way thru the class or group so the therapist would sign off on the surgery. She has it, loses the weight.

Then her addictive personality kicks in. Since she could no longer eat she went looking for something to fill the void that food use to fill. Unfortunately, she settled on alcohol. Long story short, she managed to drink herself to death in under 2 years. Deal with the issues with food first, then consider the surgery.
 
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