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2013-10-11 12:20:41 PM  
I don't actually think there's anything explicit in Neverwhere.

I'm amazed that one complaint constantly outweighs dozens of supporters.
 
2013-10-11 12:21:10 PM  
Clutch your pearls harder, you fretting victorian trash. The only thing that makes this douche-baggery worse is she attention-whored it to the news.
 
2013-10-11 12:21:45 PM  
www.internationalhero.co.uk
/disapprove
 
2013-10-11 12:21:49 PM  
When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?
 
2013-10-11 12:22:17 PM  

Dafatone: I'm amazed that one complaint constantly outweighs dozens of supporters.


Gaze on the glory of appeasement. Never will you see a weaker will then one who would rather not fight at all.
 
2013-10-11 12:22:27 PM  
"I knew there were done somethin' wrong with that ol' book when it said right on the front it were wrote by a Gay-man."

*reads article*

"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

Seriously, woman? If you have issues with reading such a ginormous book, then perhaps you have no business poking about with literature at all.
 
2013-10-11 12:22:56 PM  
I've never understood the philosophy where ONE (ignorant) parent can make an entire school system adjust their teaching curriculum.
 
2013-10-11 12:22:59 PM  

dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?


I am just amazed that they require reading in Arizona.
 
2013-10-11 12:23:07 PM  

dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?


the article says 2004


pffffffffffffffftttttttt
 
2013-10-11 12:23:47 PM  

Talos: I've never understood the philosophy where ONE (ignorant) parent can make an entire school system adjust their teaching curriculum.


Gaze on the glory of appeasement. Never will you see a weaker will then one who would rather not fight at all.
 
2013-10-11 12:24:07 PM  

dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?


I thought "American Gods" was pretty good, though I don't know If i would require it.  Looks like I have to add "Neverwhere" to my list my short-list.
 
2013-10-11 12:26:09 PM  
"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

Wow.
 
2013-10-11 12:27:04 PM  
"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

There's the blood in the water...go get her.
 
2013-10-11 12:28:09 PM  

lockers: Talos: I've never understood the philosophy where ONE (ignorant) parent can make an entire school system adjust their teaching curriculum.

Gaze on the glory of appeasement. Never will you see a weaker will then one who would rather not fight at all.


THAN you farking tards.
 
2013-10-11 12:28:23 PM  

The Slush: "A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

Wow.


What? Is I haven't read it but I object to it not a sound argument?
 
2013-10-11 12:28:32 PM  

tetsoushima: dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?

I thought "American Gods" was pretty good, though I don't know If i would require it.  Looks like I have to add "Neverwhere" to my list my short-list.


Neverwhere is less epic in scope, but more pleasantly written.
 
2013-10-11 12:28:38 PM  
"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said.

Actually, yes. Yes they can. And what was wrong/explicit in Neverwhere?
 
2013-10-11 12:29:18 PM  
I think it's a great book, but it does seem a somewhat odd choice for required reading.

Maybe they should split the list into options; one for kids who want to someday move out of Alamogordo, New Mexico, and one for those who don't.
 
2013-10-11 12:29:51 PM  
Looks like the kids in Las Cruses will be much more mature and able to read 400 page books than their Alamogordo rivals.
 
2013-10-11 12:30:27 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: lockers: Talos: I've never understood the philosophy where ONE (ignorant) parent can make an entire school system adjust their teaching curriculum.

Gaze on the glory of appeasement. Never will you see a weaker will then one who would rather not fight at all.

THAN you farking tards.


Sorry, I wasn't meaning to bother your delicate sensibilities. Now as than, grammar is a hard thing to get right.
 
2013-10-11 12:30:27 PM  
I kind of think the only proper response to mothers trying to get books banned is to shoot them in the face with a 12 gauge shotgun. I am also open to stomping them to death.
 
2013-10-11 12:31:06 PM  

facisto: "A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said.

Actually, yes. Yes they can. And what was wrong/explicit in Neverwhere?


it reveals the terrible secret of sex.
 
2013-10-11 12:31:21 PM  

FunkOut: "A parent I can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

 
2013-10-11 12:32:58 PM  

Talos: I've never understood the philosophy where ONE (ignorant) parent can make an entire school system adjust their teaching curriculum.


The comment section has a poster who claims she helped walk the mother through this.  The interesting thing was that, according to this person, it started as an effort to just not require her daughter to read it, to which the school officials refused.  The subsequent elevating the issue to the school board is what led to it being taken off the circullum.   This isn't the same as being "banned"...it's just not being taught anymore.

That said, the whole thing is stupid and the mom's thoughts on parental responsibility and childrearing are disgraceful.
 
2013-10-11 12:33:07 PM  
I know a book that has volumes of violence,torture,rape and sex in it that she would probably love to be required reading.

the Bible
 
2013-10-11 12:33:27 PM  
facisto:
"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said.

Actually, yes. Yes they can. And what was wrong/explicit in Neverwhere?


Well it does imply that it's wrong to ignore the suffering of street/homeless people.  So it's pretty anti-American Jesus (TM).
 
2013-10-11 12:33:35 PM  
Wilmott says she contacted school officials last week about the book's sexual innuendos and harsh language.

Because teenagers don't have sex or swear.
 
2013-10-11 12:33:58 PM  

dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?


When Generation Y became teachers.

You see, the kids nowadays don't read the same hip crap their parents read. You can't push a copy of Salinger's Catcher in the Rye into their hands and expect them to empathize or identify with that jerk Holden Cauliflower. They have to have something they'd actually read. And Neil Gaiman is It, dude.
 
2013-10-11 12:34:38 PM  
I love how one woman with a stick up her ass can get a book banned because she says it offends her. That school has hundreds of mother's who are fine with the book, but because one mother is offended it MUST be banned! Schools cave so easy and are just generally run by complete idiots with their zero tolerance policies, etc.

You're offended? SO F*CKING WHAT????
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2013-10-11 12:35:43 PM  
"Alamogordo school officials say this is the first complaint they've had about the book since they started using it in their curriculum in 2004."

Thanks, Queen of the Snowflakes, for ruining it for everyone else.

I hope her daughter goes off to college and becomes one of those wild party sluts as a result of all this sheltering.

Seriously, I read books with "dirty words" in high school.  That's real life, lady.  Trying to hide "adult content" from kids just makes things worse.
 
2013-10-11 12:35:46 PM  
I find the Bible, Koran, Torah, and Bhagavad Gita offensive! Now can we remove it (and this ridiculous "Creationism") from schools?
 
2013-10-11 12:37:18 PM  
"A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

I honestly have no word to describe how this makes me feel. It's sort of violent hatred mixed with soul crushing depression.

Hatepressed?  Demurderous?

I bet there is a German word for it.
 
2013-10-11 12:38:00 PM  

Hobodeluxe: I know a book that has volumes of violence,torture,rape and sex in it that she would probably love to be required reading.

the Bible


I read the whole thing at age 9. Thanks for nightmares, John of Patmos, you shroom munching lunatic.
 
2013-10-11 12:38:21 PM  
lockers:

Sorry, I wasn't meaning to bother your delicate sensibilities. Now as than, grammar is a hard thing to get right.

Know its knot
 
2013-10-11 12:38:46 PM  

Egoy3k: "A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

I honestly have no word to describe how this makes me feel. It's sort of violent hatred mixed with soul crushing depression.

Hatepressed?  Demurderous?

I bet there is a German word for it.


Backpfeifengesicht may be close enough
 
2013-10-11 12:39:42 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I find the Bible, Koran, Torah, and Bhagavad Gita offensive! Now can we remove it (and this ridiculous "Creationism") from schools?


Mission accomplished. You can go through grade school and never read any of those.
 
2013-10-11 12:39:54 PM  

No Such Agency: So it's pretty anti-American Jesus (TM).


en.academic.ru
 
2013-10-11 12:40:06 PM  

The Slush: "A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

Wow.


In her defense, as a parent, you can't be expected to read every book your child might pick up from cover to cover. Not only is there not enough time in the day but then when do you do reading for yourself?

However, I find it difficult to believe there are many books worth studying that are inappropriate for high school age kids.
 
2013-10-11 12:41:38 PM  

SuperChuck: The Slush: "A parent can't read a 400-page-book to find out if it's appropriate," Wilmott said. "You rely on your school to do that for you."

Wow.

In her defense, as a parent, you can't be expected to read every book your child might pick up from cover to cover. Not only is there not enough time in the day but then when do you do reading for yourself?

However, I find it difficult to believe there are many books worth studying that are inappropriate for high school age kids.


I'm not buying that this parent reads anything.
 
2013-10-11 12:41:48 PM  

tetsoushima: dustygrimp: When did Neil Gaiman become required reading?

I thought "American Gods" was pretty good, though I don't know If i would require it.  Looks like I have to add "Neverwhere" to my list my short-list.



It's fun. It's Gaiman's most Harry Potter-ish book with its UK setting and hidden-secret-magic-world-behind-the-one-we're-used-to plot. It's a good story with an entertaining twist or two, hints at untold back stories, likeable characters, and villains with hints of fascinating unexplored depths to them.
 
2013-10-11 12:43:26 PM  
I watched the TV series of Neverwhere. I liked it although the ending was a bit abrupt, probably as it was meant to be continued. Hey, Beeb! Get continuing!

It is set a dark and violent underworld beneath the streets of London, sort of like that shopping mall in the Harry Potter novels. I won't spoil it for you with details that I can't remember, but it's sort of Trollsville down there, but interesting in a fantasy graphic novel sort of way.

I think it is a shame to ban something like that. Hasn't this stupid biyotch seen The Game of Thrones?

I just read his children's book about milk, whatchamacallit it, Fortunately the Milk, which is sort of a tall tale told by a Father to explain why he didn't get the milk he went out to the convenience store to buy.

It has dinosaurs and pirates and space aliens and human sacrifice and time travel and is fairly well-written and entertaining, with illustrations. I recommend it. Quick read. Nice illustrations. You don't have to be a kid or a geek or even a parent to enjoy it.

Stupid parents are always stunting the moral and intellectual growth of their children by not getting the fact that the real world their children live in is a bit rougher than they care to know or understand, and that children who aren't as idiotic as their parents can read a lot worse stuff than any Neil Gaiman graphic novel for "near-adults".

I am not a super Neil Gaiman fan but I have sampled his work in many genres and there's nothing there that will warp your children into monsters, not even the fecking monsters.
 
2013-10-11 12:43:38 PM  
I read Neverwhere on my own initiative at age 16 and I remember it being spooky & awesome, but I don't remember anything explicit.
 
2013-10-11 12:43:44 PM  
I'm torn between my fierce love of the First Amendment and my belief that people should be spared being forced to read Neil F*CKING Giaman's overrated tripe.
 
2013-10-11 12:43:45 PM  
why is that you all worry about parental rights? I have children. If I say that they can't read a book, it doesn't matter if it is "shades of gray" or if it is "my little pony saves the fair." It is my choice and my responsibility to judge what my children will be exposed to. I don't care if it is on the "required" reading list or not. I make the final determination of what my children are exposed to. For you to side with the school board shows you lack the confidence in being a parent.

I am against banning a book. My children are more than welcome to read whatever the heck they want when they get to age appropiate levels. I don't let them watch "Family Guy." If the school required them to watch it, the school will be informed that they are going to be lacking on this subject. Reading a book is no different. When I judge my children to be the appropiate age to handle certain subjects, I will let them.

It is just like "Ender's Game," right now. My son is 8, and he would probably think it is cool that an eight year old is going to save the earth, but due to the ongoing theme of homosexuality that runs rampant through all of Cards works, he can wait and read it as a teenager.
 
2013-10-11 12:44:20 PM  

lockers: Sorry, I wasn't meaning to bother your delicate sensibilities. Now as than, grammar is a hard thing to get right.


OK OK, rather then offend you, I should of let it go.
 
2013-10-11 12:44:51 PM  
"I did state to the principal that this is rated-R material, and she can't get into a rated-R movie," Wilmott said.

Well, she can if the theater lets her, since the MPAA rating system is completely voluntary.
 
2013-10-11 12:47:04 PM  
With the possible exception of Hunter's attire, what the hell is explicit about Neverwhere? The book and TV show where clearly designed for the Young Adult market.

Incidentally, the recent BBC Radio adaptation was pretty good. Croup and Vandemar especially so (Anthony Head, take a bow)
 
2013-10-11 12:47:44 PM  
A real-life version of "Poe's Law"?
 
2013-10-11 12:47:47 PM  

buny101: why is that you all worry about parental rights?


Yeah but she had the book banned for everyone she didn't just get an exemption.
 
2013-10-11 12:48:02 PM  

lockers: dj_spanmaster: I find the Bible, Koran, Torah, and Bhagavad Gita offensive! Now can we remove it (and this ridiculous "Creationism") from schools?

Mission accomplished. You can go through grade school and never read any of those.


True in some parts of the nation, not in all.
 
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