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(Rhizome)   And now, a song with 21 million notes. Suck it, Yngwie   (rhizome.org) divider line 57
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2013-10-11 11:46:58 AM
This is the song that doesn't end.
Yes, it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue singing it forever just because . . .
 
2013-10-11 11:54:39 AM
Reminds me of The Hydrogen Sonata.
 
2013-10-11 12:08:23 PM
img5.imageshack.us
 
2013-10-11 12:22:01 PM
At the same time? No? Bo-ring...
 
2013-10-11 12:23:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQkAP-FyT48

Kaiser Nancarrow by Shawn Lane
 
2013-10-11 12:25:24 PM
It's not really music, it's more just...noise.
 
2013-10-11 12:26:18 PM
Or as VS calls it "Tuesday"
 
2013-10-11 12:27:43 PM

poonesfarm: [img5.imageshack.us image 446x371]


Well... there it is!
 
2013-10-11 12:33:22 PM
Whoa, I like this.
 
2013-10-11 12:34:54 PM
There is a Youtube video of a playback of a MIDI program used by Story & Clark to test repaired MIDI player pianos. I'm not so good at linking but if you search Youtube for "Circus Galop" I'm sure you'd find it. It's a little short of 21 million notes but doesn't sound like it is.
 
2013-10-11 12:35:45 PM
I'm not really into piano music. Can you play this on a kazoo?
 
2013-10-11 12:35:47 PM
the equivalent of throwing your forearm on a piano and saying you just played ten notes
 
2013-10-11 12:37:43 PM
Back in my day, we had our own ways to create music impossible for any single human to play, that could produce hundreds of notes at once.  We called it an "orchestra".

/actually surprised the black midi example did sound vaguely musical
 
2013-10-11 12:38:32 PM
They mention a Touhou song, but not Flandre's? Blasphemy, I tell you.

Black MIDI can be awesome, if it's done well.
 
2013-10-11 12:40:03 PM
Oh, tone clusters used as percussion.  And octave doubling across the full range of the keyboard.  And tremolo in place of sustained notes.

How interestiZZZZZZZZ
 
2013-10-11 01:11:07 PM
It's like a Mach piece, really.
 
2013-10-11 01:12:15 PM

Millennium: They mention a Touhou song, but not Flandre's? Blasphemy, I tell you.

Black MIDI can be awesome, if it's done well.


Now this is spectacular, really musical.
 
2013-10-11 01:27:13 PM

Millennium: They mention a Touhou song, but not Flandre's? Blasphemy, I tell you.

Black MIDI can be awesome, if it's done well.


"If it's done well" is the key phrase here. The version of Flan's theme you linked to was done well; the version of Mokou's theme in TFA started good but then deteriorated.
 
2013-10-11 01:28:34 PM
Electronic musicians, such non talented slack asses.  You can make anyone sound insignificant by just putting their title in front of their name.

DJ Abraham Lincoln

See?
 
2013-10-11 01:29:59 PM

Millennium: They mention a Touhou song, but not Flandre's? Blasphemy, I tell you.

Black MIDI can be awesome, if it's done well.


While watching that, I caught 331ERock's version,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88tNh76Iz-8
I honestly can't get enough of what this guy does.
 
2013-10-11 01:35:33 PM
Composers like this are the Hummer drivers of music - blatantly compensating for deficiencies elsewhere.
 
2013-10-11 01:39:59 PM

poot_rootbeer: Oh, tone clusters used as percussion.  And octave doubling across the full range of the keyboard.  And tremolo in place of sustained notes.

How interestiZZZZZZZZ


Not a musician, but I was thinking the same thing.  Not saying it didn't take talent to produce, but they really chose to disregard that whole "less is more" memo.
 
2013-10-11 01:40:36 PM
First question:  Does it sound good?

Second question:  Will it stay popular?

/one hit 21 M notes
 
2013-10-11 01:51:31 PM
And now, a song with 21 million notes. Suck it, YngwieNiccolo.
 
2013-10-11 01:53:19 PM

StrangeQ: poot_rootbeer: Oh, tone clusters used as percussion.  And octave doubling across the full range of the keyboard.  And tremolo in place of sustained notes.

How interestiZZZZZZZZ

Not a musician, but I was thinking the same thing.  Not saying it didn't take talent to produce, but they really chose to disregard that whole "less is more" memo.


Am a musician. I don't think it took much talent to produce. If you want something complicated and crazy using a shaitload of notes, I'd prefer this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj9QlWltv8s
 
2013-10-11 01:57:39 PM

StrangeQ: poot_rootbeer: Oh, tone clusters used as percussion.  And octave doubling across the full range of the keyboard.  And tremolo in place of sustained notes.

How interestiZZZZZZZZ

Not a musician, but I was thinking the same thing.  Not saying it didn't take talent to produce, but they really chose to disregard that whole "less is more" memo.


Layering the same note 20+ times to provide a different timbre and more than that to produce percussion and different volumes (and distortion effects from the sound card freaking out) is not the same thing as a piece of music having "21 million notes". It's writing a piece of music with a completely normal number of notes, if voiced properly, and then encoding it badly. I'm not sure who exactly that's supposed to impress.

Basically, no, it didn't take talent. Or at least not any more than writing a not super interesting piece of music of that length would. Basically they just write at most four lines of music (melody, harmony, percussion, maybe counter melody) and then hit ctrl-c ctrl-p a whole bunch. You can even have the computer auto-write in the tremolos, arpeggiation and such for you, so you don't have to do it by hand.

Pointless, and a bit stupid.
 
2013-10-11 02:08:42 PM
The first song, Bad Apple, actually sounded pretty good. Unfortunately, this stuff sounds like piano dubstep
 
2013-10-11 02:12:21 PM
Is it my computer or at 1:39 of the 21 million notes does it turn into almost just straight white noise.
 
2013-10-11 02:17:57 PM

TNel: Is it my computer or at 1:39 of the 21 million notes does it turn into almost just straight white noise.


This happened to me as well. I was reading on other Black MIDI YouTube videos that some MIDI drivers simply cannot handle the amount of notes.
 
2013-10-11 02:39:56 PM
I'm ridiculously happy watching those videos. Something's wrong with me.
 
2013-10-11 02:53:26 PM
The progressive jazz scene suffered from the same kind of talentless douchebags.  While progressive jazz peformed by people with serious skills is a thing of wonder, far too many talentless hacks got into it and produced painful noise.  Then blamed the listener for not being sufficiently knowlegeable to properly appreciate their "music".

/You have to listent to the notes he ain't playin'
 
2013-10-11 02:53:51 PM

phimuskapsi: TNel: Is it my computer or at 1:39 of the 21 million notes does it turn into almost just straight white noise.

This happened to me as well. I was reading on other Black MIDI YouTube videos that some MIDI drivers simply cannot handle the amount of notes.


That's weird that the youtube video outputs midi sound I would have assumed it was just an mp3 encode of the music.  But thanks for looking into it.
 
2013-10-11 03:13:53 PM
The notes you don't play are just as important.
 
2013-10-11 03:22:48 PM

Frederf: The notes you don't play are just as important.


I see you are a fan of John Cage.
 
2013-10-11 03:27:34 PM

gnosis301: Millennium: They mention a Touhou song, but not Flandre's? Blasphemy, I tell you.

Black MIDI can be awesome, if it's done well.

While watching that, I caught 331ERock's version,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88tNh76Iz-8
I honestly can't get enough of what this guy does.


For some reason, that reminded me of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFISy-i9ssE
 
2013-10-11 03:35:22 PM

glave27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQkAP-FyT48


And that's how I ended up watching Shawn Lane videos all day instead of working.
 
2013-10-11 03:55:15 PM

Uzzah: I'm not really into piano music. Can you play this on a kazoo?

Can you play it on a HOSEPIPE ?


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14 minutes in for hosepipe musical madness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GshjrO7CewA">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=GshjrO7CewA
 
2013-10-11 03:56:34 PM

OgreMagi: /You have to listent to the notes he ain't playin'


Frederf: The notes you don't play are just as important.


Link
 
2013-10-11 03:57:34 PM
As a MIDI composer, I find this to be utter shiat. Most of it just looks like OCTAVES AND CHROMATIC RUNS EVERYWHERE.
 
2013-10-11 04:01:40 PM

LewDux: Or as VS calls it "Tuesday"


Since everybody asked
 
2013-10-11 04:48:13 PM
Guitar Hero's "You think you're good? You lose now!" edition
 
2013-10-11 05:31:36 PM

LewDux: LewDux: Or as VS calls it "Tuesday"

Since everybody asked


Ever heard of Datach'i?
 
2013-10-11 05:48:09 PM

Thunderboy: LewDux: LewDux: Or as VS calls it "Tuesday"

Since everybody asked

Ever heard of Datach'i?


Never. My listening to (modern?) breakcore starts with VS and ends with Drumcorps with only
Xanopticon album in between
 
2013-10-11 07:18:31 PM
Obligatory -
Black Page #1 and 2 live with Bozzio on drums
 
2013-10-11 07:19:27 PM
It may help if I add the link...
/has the sheet music pinned to my office wall
 
2013-10-11 07:59:42 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's like a Mach piece, really.


www.bestcareanywhere.net

"Ahhh... Mach!"
 
2013-10-11 07:59:58 PM
Yngwie is a louse!
 
2013-10-11 08:00:06 PM

aerojockey: Back in my day, we had our own ways to create music impossible for any single human to play, that could produce hundreds of notes at once.  We called it an "orchestra".

/actually surprised the black midi example did sound vaguely musical


Yep. Came for this. Had a pic and all that.
 
2013-10-11 08:08:23 PM
I'll give it an 8. It's got a good beat and it's easy to dance to.
 
2013-10-11 08:52:12 PM
Suck it Dream Theater would have also been accepted.
 
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