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(Deadspin)   What Rick Reilly's father-in-law said: "This argument is silly. Change the [Redskins] name." What Reilly quoted: "The argument to change the name is silly"   (deadspin.com ) divider line
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2013-10-11 12:00:05 PM  
Pretend that I posted a picture of Nelson Muntz.

/Reilly is a pompous ass
 
2013-10-11 12:00:48 PM  
Just change the logo to a potato and let them keep the name.
 
2013-10-11 12:04:43 PM  
Can't believe I used to read Sports Illustrated from back to front when he was with them.  Barely read him now, and when I do it's usually because of something like this.  Sad
 
2013-10-11 12:09:30 PM  
Change the name to the Washington Truants, in honor of the current legislative branch.
 
2013-10-11 12:12:29 PM  
Wow. Rick Reilly completely lied about something his own father-in-law said to further his own idiotic argument. Color me shocked. How this schmuck still has his job amazes me. Simmons simply lost my interest when he became a name-dropping soccer mom. Reilly actively offends me with just about every article. But, mkuch like every other lie he's been caught up in, he simply won't acknowledge he did it at all.
 
2013-10-11 12:14:13 PM  

MizzouGuy: Can't believe I used to read Sports Illustrated from back to front when he was with them.  Barely read him now, and when I do it's usually because of something like this.  Sad


There was a time when he was, you know, entertaining.  He and David Feherty were the only columnists that I would read on a regular basis.
 
2013-10-11 12:14:16 PM  
"it's silly in this day and age that this should even be a battle - if the name offends someone, change it."

I can't argue this particular instance, but this attitude makes it really hard for me to take anything you say seriously.
 
2013-10-11 12:16:12 PM  
just gonna keep beating the dead horse, huh? Except for a tiny minority of squeaky wheels, social crusaders and journalists looking for something controversial, an overwhelming majority of sentient human beings know this is not an issue of any substance. Time to let it go...
 
2013-10-11 12:16:15 PM  

grinding_journalist: I can't argue this particular instance, but this attitude makes it really hard for me to take anything you say seriously.


I think by 'someone' in this example, he meant 'millions of people', not any individual.
 
2013-10-11 12:16:25 PM  
Thanksgiving will be even more awkward now!
 
2013-10-11 12:18:21 PM  

skrame: Thanksgiving will be even more awkward now!


That was pretty much the headline I submitted for this
 
2013-10-11 12:20:43 PM  
o.onionstatic.com


There ya go. Name changed! And we're done here!

i.qkme.me
 
2013-10-11 12:22:06 PM  
Wow, Reilly really screwed up.  Hopi apologized.
 
2013-10-11 12:36:02 PM  

JohnBigBootay: grinding_journalist: I can't argue this particular instance, but this attitude makes it really hard for me to take anything you say seriously.

I think by 'someone' in this example, he meant 'millions of people', not any individual.


That may well be, but then he could have said "if the name is offensive" or "if people think...". The way he phrased it really makes me think he's part of the "think of the children" crusade to sanitize the world.

I find the US government offensive, along with millions of others, therefore it should be replaced with something less offensive. Like nothing.

/yeah yeah anarchy etc
 
2013-10-11 12:42:08 PM  
Wow, first his father-in-law gives him the quote...then he takes it back.

What an indian giver.
 
2013-10-11 12:42:19 PM  
Name them the Washington Lobbyists
 
2013-10-11 12:44:51 PM  

Pep Streebeck: [o.onionstatic.com image 850x425]


There ya go. Name changed! And we're done here!

[i.qkme.me image 500x333]


Should be the Maryland Redskins. If you want to go by city, the Landover Redskins.
 
2013-10-11 12:45:21 PM  

machoprogrammer: Name them the Washington Lobbyists


Pigskins
 
2013-10-11 12:49:30 PM  
That comment section is...

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2013-10-11 12:52:00 PM  

grinding_journalist: That may well be, but then he could have said "if the name is offensive" or "if people think...". The way he phrased it really makes me think he's part of the "think of the children" crusade to sanitize the world.

I find the US government offensive, along with millions of others, therefore it should be replaced with something less offensive. Like nothing.

/yeah yeah anarchy etc


I'm hardly a name-change crusader. I generally don't give a shiat. "Utes" is one thing... "Redskins" is another. You can ask someone from oir indigenous peoples if they are a Ute without a fair chance of getting punched in the face. I don't REALLY care but I am surprised it has survived as long as it has. More on point, Rick Reilly is an absolutely confirmed lying douchebag.
 
2013-10-11 12:54:20 PM  
He only gets paid a couple million a year to do this
 
2013-10-11 12:55:53 PM  
If a white guy isn't offended, is anyone really offended?
 
2013-10-11 12:57:40 PM  
Thank god nobody on FARK has an offensive handle
 
2013-10-11 12:59:38 PM  

JohnBigBootay: grinding_journalist: That may well be, but then he could have said "if the name is offensive" or "if people think...". The way he phrased it really makes me think he's part of the "think of the children" crusade to sanitize the world.

I find the US government offensive, along with millions of others, therefore it should be replaced with something less offensive. Like nothing.

/yeah yeah anarchy etc

I'm hardly a name-change crusader. I generally don't give a shiat. "Utes" is one thing... "Redskins" is another. You can ask someone from oir indigenous peoples if they are a Ute without a fair chance of getting punched in the face. I don't REALLY care but I am surprised it has survived as long as it has. More on point, Rick Reilly is an absolutely confirmed lying douchebag.


Redskin is slang for warrior, so yes its just as stupid as asking some random person from Texas if they're a cowpoke
 
2013-10-11 01:00:23 PM  

doubled99: just gonna keep beating the dead horse, huh? Except for a tiny minority of squeaky wheels, social crusaders and journalists looking for something controversial, an overwhelming majority of sentient human beings know this is not an issue of any substance. Time to let it go...


Paint me as one in the quiet minority.  I think the name is utterly repulsive and cant believe it has held on for as long as it has especially during the late 90s and early 00s when many teams changed their names.  I really dont even think "good" names like braves and chiefs should be used.
 
2013-10-11 01:05:45 PM  
Washington - In a surprising and potentially controversial move, Dan Snyder, owner of the previously named Washington Redskins football team has announced plans to change the name. "Although no offense was intended by the prior name, and it was only intended to honor and respect the native people, I understand that it may not have been received that way. We want every fan to feel welcome. Accordingly, I am proud to announce that, going forward, the team will be known as the Washington Spearchuckers."

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2013-10-11 01:06:27 PM  

ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior


i580.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-11 01:07:36 PM  
I love this issue.  Outrage everywhere but the people outraged by the people who are outraged are my favorite.
 
2013-10-11 01:10:10 PM  

ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior


I'm not sure you get to decide that - it certainly is slang for a lot more than that to many. Reilly himself decried its use in print back in the 90's and changed his mind only recently when he finally embraced his inner bloviating uber-wasp..
 
2013-10-11 01:11:42 PM  

Gunny Highway: I love this issue.  Outrage everywhere but the people outraged by the people who are outraged are my favorite.


Agreed.  <Ricky Ricardo>  iz juss so ridicalus </Ricky Ricardo>
 
2013-10-11 01:12:33 PM  
They really need to have a Pow Wow
 
2013-10-11 01:15:40 PM  
As someone who is 1/32 Cherokee, I am 1/32 offended by the name and it should be changed proportionately.  How about Washinton Redscins?
 
2013-10-11 01:17:38 PM  

Broktun: ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior

[i580.photobucket.com image 197x151]


One of the believed origins of the term is that it was slang description for the Indian warriors who put on red face paint, the other possible source is a literal translation of the word that some NE tribe used when referring to any native
 
2013-10-11 01:20:24 PM  
What everyone else is thinking: Who the fark cares what Rick Reilly's father in law thinks?
 
2013-10-11 01:20:25 PM  
Thanksgiving at the Reilly house is going to be really awkward this year.
 
2013-10-11 01:21:38 PM  

DemoKnite: doubled99: just gonna keep beating the dead horse, huh? Except for a tiny minority of squeaky wheels, social crusaders and journalists looking for something controversial, an overwhelming majority of sentient human beings know this is not an issue of any substance. Time to let it go...

Paint me as one in the quiet minority.  I think the name is utterly repulsive and cant believe it has held on for as long as it has especially during the late 90s and early 00s when many teams changed their names.  I really dont even think "good" names like braves and chiefs should be used.


This.
 
2013-10-11 01:21:57 PM  

doubled99: just gonna keep beating the dead horse, huh? Except for a tiny minority of squeaky wheels, social crusaders and journalists looking for something controversial, an overwhelming majority of sentient human beings know this is not an issue of any substance. Time to let it go...


By "tiny minority" you're referring to the Cherokee, Seminole, Oneida and Comanche tribes as well as the National Congress of American Indians, which represents over 1.2 million people? Because those groups are all supporting the suit to change the name. Or are you referring to that poll of less than 500 people who identified *themselves* as "Indian"?
 
2013-10-11 01:24:32 PM  

degenerate-afro: Pep Streebeck: [o.onionstatic.com image 850x425]


There ya go. Name changed! And we're done here!

[i.qkme.me image 500x333]

Should be the Maryland Redskins. If you want to go by city, the Landover Redskins.


Wait... I got it!  They can change their name to the Landover Baptists!

/personally, I'm pulling for the Washington Palefaces.
 
2013-10-11 01:26:16 PM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm not sure you get to decide that


Heh, but apparently, neither do the 90% of Native Americans who don't want the Redskins to change their name?

/What I find offensive is that some people think that whining on and on about something, trying to speak for someone else, will get them to change their opinion.
//All it makes me want to do is smack those people.
///Hispanic white that is tired of being told I'm not very Hispanic by outraged non-Hispanic whites.
 
2013-10-11 01:27:29 PM  

06Wahoo: 90% of Native Americans who don't want the Redskins to change their name?


[citation needed]
 
2013-10-11 01:32:12 PM  

ShadowKamui: Broktun: ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior

[i580.photobucket.com image 197x151]

One of the believed origins of the term is that it was slang description for the Indian warriors who put on red face paint, the other possible source is a literal translation of the word that some NE tribe used when referring to any native


That's nice. Scholarship also indicates that "kike" was a term that originated with German jews referring disparagingly to (more recently immigrated) eastern european jews. Now it's just a racist slur. Words change meaning over time. If you want to see an example of that I suggest driving to your nearest reservation and try addressing people as "Redskins". Let me know how it turns out.
 
2013-10-11 01:40:13 PM  

Willas Tyrell: ShadowKamui: Broktun: ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior

[i580.photobucket.com image 197x151]

One of the believed origins of the term is that it was slang description for the Indian warriors who put on red face paint, the other possible source is a literal translation of the word that some NE tribe used when referring to any native

That's nice. Scholarship also indicates that "kike" was a term that originated with German jews referring disparagingly to (more recently immigrated) eastern european jews. Now it's just a racist slur. Words change meaning over time. If you want to see an example of that I suggest driving to your nearest reservation and try addressing people as "Redskins". Let me know how it turns out.


Most of then would say either yes that's our mascot or no we're the braves the other highschool is called the redskins.
 
2013-10-11 01:41:10 PM  

HeartBurnKid: 06Wahoo: 90% of Native Americans who don't want the Redskins to change their name?

[citation needed]


In 2004 "the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name "Washington Redskins" offensive. Almost 90 per cent said it did not bother them."

Cite here.

The issue here is the phrase "identified themselves." Lots of people who have one native great-great granparent can identify themselves as Indian without any contact with Indian culture in their lives, because it sounds cooler than being Norweigan.

There are several significant tribal organizations representing millions of Indians that have taken a stand against the name.

/Bonus: The cited article also talks about how George Marshall, the great, open minded humanitarian who selected the name left a proviso in his will that the "Redskins Foundation" could never support "the principle of racial integration in any form."
 
2013-10-11 01:42:50 PM  
No one is actually "offended" by this. No one feels a deep sense of personal aggrievement or injury. No one experiences any emotional pain or sense of alienation when this football team's name is spoken in the sports news. It's bullshiat.
Political posturing is the name of this game.
 
2013-10-11 01:43:09 PM  

ShadowKamui: Willas Tyrell: ShadowKamui: Broktun: ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior

[i580.photobucket.com image 197x151]

One of the believed origins of the term is that it was slang description for the Indian warriors who put on red face paint, the other possible source is a literal translation of the word that some NE tribe used when referring to any native

That's nice. Scholarship also indicates that "kike" was a term that originated with German jews referring disparagingly to (more recently immigrated) eastern european jews. Now it's just a racist slur. Words change meaning over time. If you want to see an example of that I suggest driving to your nearest reservation and try addressing people as "Redskins". Let me know how it turns out.

Most of then would say either yes that's our mascot or no we're the braves the other highschool is called the redskins.


You didn't have time to actually go yet! Let me know when you've actually visited. I suggest you bring any information you might need for your medical insurance.
 
2013-10-11 01:46:05 PM  

doubled99: No one is actually "offended" by this. No one feels a deep sense of personal aggrievement or injury. No one experiences any emotional pain or sense of alienation when this football team's name is spoken in the sports news. It's bullshiat.
Political posturing is the name of this game.


Political posturing against whom? The pro-racial epithet lobby?
 
2013-10-11 01:51:15 PM  

Willas Tyrell: ShadowKamui: Willas Tyrell: ShadowKamui: Broktun: ShadowKamui: Redskin is slang for warrior

[i580.photobucket.com image 197x151]

One of the believed origins of the term is that it was slang description for the Indian warriors who put on red face paint, the other possible source is a literal translation of the word that some NE tribe used when referring to any native

That's nice. Scholarship also indicates that "kike" was a term that originated with German jews referring disparagingly to (more recently immigrated) eastern european jews. Now it's just a racist slur. Words change meaning over time. If you want to see an example of that I suggest driving to your nearest reservation and try addressing people as "Redskins". Let me know how it turns out.

Most of then would say either yes that's our mascot or no we're the braves the other highschool is called the redskins.

You didn't have time to actually go yet! Let me know when you've actually visited. I suggest you bring any information you might need for your medical insurance.


I'm not driving an a couple hour up the highway to sound like a moron figuring out what highschool some people go to when google works perfectly fine.

http://www.unionps.org/index.cfm?id=257
 
2013-10-11 01:52:07 PM  
There are literally millions of people who are truly "offended" by same sex marriage. Maybe people should just stop.
 
2013-10-11 01:52:50 PM  
I don't care what your feeling on the Redskins name, the one definite thing is that this proves definitively what a lying piece of sanctimonious shiat Rick Reilly is.
 
2013-10-11 01:56:35 PM  
The Washington Warriors

Done. You can even keep the logo.
 
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