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(NBC New York)   Remember that Long Island mother who drowned her three children in a bathtub and then was found not guilty by reason of insanity and locked away in a secure mental facility? Well, it wasn't secure enough to keep her from getting pregnant again   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line 34
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2013-10-11 01:22:04 PM
7 votes:
Paternity test on the baby compared with the DNA of every male employee at that hospital in the last year. Fire him, fine him, make him pay someone to take care of the baby. She may have consented, but like with a teacher farking a student, when there's a power dynamic, it's completely unacceptable.
2013-10-11 01:11:44 PM
7 votes:
And why the fark wasn't this woman sterilized?! Fark people and their "cruel and unusual punishment". You know who gets a life of cruel and unusual punishment? That child whose mom is famous for murdering his siblings in a horrific fashion. Gawd damn it so much I hate the bleeding hearts sometimes.
2013-10-11 11:31:46 AM
7 votes:
Attorney Tom Foley, who represents Demesyeux, said "it's outrageous" that Brewer was able to conceive a child while incarcerated
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"This person's supposedly in a secure facility and she gets pregnant. This is the woman who had no idea what she was doing when she murdered her children."


I love how he's blaming her for "getting pregnant" and not the security guard or whoever who had sex with and impregnated a mentally ill woman.
2013-10-11 01:05:30 PM
5 votes:
I love how they contact the father of two of her dead kids to have him find a suitable home for the newborn.  What friggin business is it of his?  Unless, of course, he was the one that impregnated her.
2013-10-11 01:54:16 PM
4 votes:

Philimus: Yes, but fortunately the courts are more interested in understanding why these women did it, and taking their mental health into account, than in just administering punishment as would surely be the case if a father murdered all of his children. Yay for double standards, and I'm not even trying to make this a men's rights issue. Sometimes there really is a good reason to remember Emerson's adage about how "consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
\Criminal injustice system is still broken.


Cry me a goddamn river. She's locked up in a nuthouse for the rest of her life, and even if by some fluke she gets released--which is unlikely, since she's not only black, she's probably poor--she's too loony to ever have any quality of life or enjoy any freedom she may ever have. I'm sorry that you resent her shiatty life as some representation of how easy women have it. If she ever does gets better, the only "better" thought in her head is going to be how she killed all her kids.

Maybe if Andrea Yeager's farking husband had been paying enough attention to his wife as something other than a baby-maker, he'd have noticed that she was dangerously depressed (even told not to have any more kids because of her severe mental health issues), and that she wasn't capable of taking care of the kids. But no, he knocked her up with the fifth kid instead, she finally snapped from post-partum depression and her other issues, and killed them all. And everyone felt so bad for the man who lost all his kids. I'd love to see how he rationalizes all of that in his head, today. And the guy worked for NASA, I don't think he was some of idiot who just couldn't see what was going on. You don't miss it when your damn wife is schizophrenic.
2013-10-11 01:15:00 PM
4 votes:
A bullet through the brain pan is a more effect cure for her problem.
2013-10-11 01:04:11 PM
4 votes:
Goddamn autoplay video.
2013-10-11 01:25:35 PM
3 votes:
She probably got knocked up while doing the deed with another patient, unless it's an all female facility. I've work inpatient psych and it's not totally unheard of.  Doesn't make the facility look too competant though...
2013-10-11 01:12:06 PM
3 votes:
Remember that Long Island mother who drowned her three children ...

oh, they must be talking about andrea yates, i remember her.

Leatrice Brewer, 33, was found not guilty because of mental disease

holy crap there's more than one woman who drowned her own kids in a bathtub?
2013-10-11 02:51:38 PM
2 votes:

cryinoutloud: Philimus: Yes, but fortunately the courts are more interested in understanding why these women did it, and taking their mental health into account, than in just administering punishment as would surely be the case if a father murdered all of his children. Yay for double standards, and I'm not even trying to make this a men's rights issue. Sometimes there really is a good reason to remember Emerson's adage about how "consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
\Criminal injustice system is still broken.

Cry me a goddamn river. She's locked up in a nuthouse for the rest of her life, and even if by some fluke she gets released--which is unlikely, since she's not only black, she's probably poor--she's too loony to ever have any quality of life or enjoy any freedom she may ever have. I'm sorry that you resent her shiatty life as some representation of how easy women have it. If she ever does gets better, the only "better" thought in her head is going to be how she killed all her kids.

Maybe if Andrea Yeager's farking husband had been paying enough attention to his wife as something other than a baby-maker, he'd have noticed that she was dangerously depressed (even told not to have any more kids because of her severe mental health issues), and that she wasn't capable of taking care of the kids. But no, he knocked her up with the fifth kid instead, she finally snapped from post-partum depression and her other issues, and killed them all. And everyone felt so bad for the man who lost all his kids. I'd love to see how he rationalizes all of that in his head, today. And the guy worked for NASA, I don't think he was some of idiot who just couldn't see what was going on. You don't miss it when your damn wife is schizophrenic.


She was also homeschooling all the children, because liberal school system will "infect" their children! They also lived in a modified school bus with 5 kids.

Russell really should have been brought up on negligence charges, because he refused to follow multiple doctors orders, let his wife spend 2 hours a day unsupervised (against doctors orders), and had her stop her anti-psychotics to continue to have more children.

He put his kids lives in danger and he should be in jail.

I heard her hubby has started the cycle again with a new wife.
2013-10-11 02:22:11 PM
2 votes:

shortymac: On the flip side, bleeding-hearts have made treatments for the severely mentally ill difficult,


It's not really fair to blame this on "bleeding hearts." In addition to the funding cuts mentioned above, the commitment process was toughened up because it really was too easy to abuse. There really were people being committed for no legitimate reason, because someone in their family wanted them out of their hair. You don't have to be a bleeding heart to want to rectify that. It's a horrible situation for families when they desperately need to get help for a loved one but they can't make it happen. On the other hand, nobody thinks institutionalizing someone against their will should be quick and easy.
2013-10-11 02:21:57 PM
2 votes:

namegoeshere: enderthexenocide: Remember that Long Island mother who drowned her three children ...

oh, they must be talking about andrea yates, i remember her.

Leatrice Brewer, 33, was found not guilty because of mental disease

holy crap there's more than one woman who drowned her own kids in a bathtub?

There's actually quite a few of them. Unfortunately.


It's actually more common for a mother to kill their children than it is for fathers.

According to the US Dept. of Health and Human services, 14.8% of child deaths due to maltreatment were because of the father acting alone, but 27.3% of the deaths were the mother acting alone.  Maltreatment by both mother and father accounted for a further 22.5%.
2013-10-11 01:36:28 PM
2 votes:
They need to do way instain mother. Who kill their babby because these babby can't frigth back.  it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids . they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots
2013-10-11 01:32:57 PM
2 votes:
Thank goodness we don't sterilize raving lunatics anymore, right?

Universal healthcare? Not a right.

Use your womb as a victim/monster factory? Supreme, inalienable right!
2013-10-11 01:21:48 PM
2 votes:

enderthexenocide: Remember that Long Island mother who drowned her three children ...

oh, they must be talking about andrea yates, i remember her.

Leatrice Brewer, 33, was found not guilty because of mental disease

holy crap there's more than one woman who drowned her own kids in a bathtub?


Yes, but fortunately the courts are more interested in understanding why these women did it, and taking their mental health into account, than in just administering punishment as would surely be the case if a father murdered all of his children. Yay for double standards, and I'm not even trying to make this a men's rights issue. Sometimes there really is a good reason to remember Emerson's adage about how "consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

\Criminal injustice system is still broken.
2013-10-11 01:15:17 PM
2 votes:
 no picture of the guard from orange is the new black?
fark, i am dissapoint
2013-10-11 01:06:14 PM
2 votes:
Can you imagine that poor kid's life?  At some point, they have to tell him/her about what mommy did.  Man, I can't imagine that.

What's worse, mental illness can be hereditary.
jlt
2013-10-11 01:04:57 PM
2 votes:

dittybopper: Sperm are very, very tiny and can fit through the cracks in doors and windows.


I laughed harder at that than I probably should have.
2013-10-11 10:08:38 AM
2 votes:
Sperm are very, very tiny and can fit through the cracks in doors and windows.
2013-10-11 04:02:31 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: namegoeshere: enderthexenocide: Remember that Long Island mother who drowned her three children ...

oh, they must be talking about andrea yates, i remember her.

Leatrice Brewer, 33, was found not guilty because of mental disease

holy crap there's more than one woman who drowned her own kids in a bathtub?

There's actually quite a few of them. Unfortunately.

It's actually more common for a mother to kill their children than it is for fathers.

According to the US Dept. of Health and Human services, 14.8% of child deaths due to maltreatment were because of the father acting alone, but 27.3% of the deaths were the mother acting alone.  Maltreatment by both mother and father accounted for a further 22.5%.


I'm guessing some of that is because it's more common for the mother to still be with her children than the father.  If a father isn't cut out to be a dad, he's a lot more likely to just run off and leave the mom with the baby.  A mom is more likely to stay stuck with the kids.  There are more kids living with just their moms in general than just their dad's,too.  So the percentage of moms being present at all being higher makes it easy for there to be a higher percentage of moms that end up murdering the kids.
2013-10-11 03:29:44 PM
1 votes:
The town of Truro, MA dna tested all its males to solve the 2002 rape and murder of Christa Worthington. There was no warrant; there was the insinuation that if you refused, you did it and the whole town would know that you did it. In a small, insular town where families tend to live for generations, that was enough. There were no refusals. The testing ended up clearing the main suspect, the shellfish warden who had a child with the victim and was engaged in a custody dispute, and convicted a garbage man who had never even been on the radar. Why he took the test, I don't know.

This same pressure to test probably wouldn't fly here for many reasons, not the least of which being that it would be up for discussion whether a crime was committed or not. This would probably involve a hearing as to if she was competent to consent to sex, if it was claimed that the sex was consensual.

The Truro case is interesting, though.
2013-10-11 02:36:16 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Mike Chewbacca: If only there was an investigation to narrow down the pool of dads.

But you said this, and I quote: "Paternity test on the baby compared with the DNA of every male employee at that hospital in the last year. "

Now, I've got zero problem with a conventional investigation that leads to a one or a at most a few suspects, and the police getting a warrant or warrants that meet the accepted legal standards based on probable cause, but that isn't what you were initially talking about.


It seems like you are inventing a privacy issue where none exists. Most likely the police would have the suspect pool narrowed down to the male employees (or any outside males) who had access to the patient within a certain time frame. Then they could get warrants for that group. That may include every male employee that has worked there in the past year, but they'd still be considered legitimate persons of interest. I'd think a warrant would be legal, wouldn't you?
2013-10-11 02:17:19 PM
1 votes:

shortymac: hailin: And why the fark wasn't this woman sterilized?! Fark people and their "cruel and unusual punishment". You know who gets a life of cruel and unusual punishment? That child whose mom is famous for murdering his siblings in a horrific fashion. Gawd damn it so much I hate the bleeding hearts sometimes.

Forcible sterilization is basically illegal, because the Eugenics movement in the US used it as a tool of social engineering/class warfare instead of harm-reduction.

On the flip side, bleeding-hearts have made treatments for the severely mentally ill difficult, committing someone for more than a few days is a long drawn out legal process that drains hospital resources, which is why we have so many homeless.


No, it's more like Republicans have reduced funding to next to nothing.
2013-10-11 02:12:38 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Mike Chewbacca: dittybopper: Mike Chewbacca: Paternity test on the baby compared with the DNA of every male employee at that hospital in the last year. Fire him, fine him, make him pay someone to take care of the baby. She may have consented, but like with a teacher farking a student, when there's a power dynamic, it's completely unacceptable.

Yes, require everyone to give a sample of their private, personal effects without a warrant, court order, or any particularized suspicion.  If you aren't guilty, what do you have to hide, right?

And woe betide anyone who refuses, because the only possible reason anyone wouldn't agree to something so intrusive is because they are the rapist, right?

Did I say anything about no court order or warrant? If a female inmate of a prison was impregnated, don't you think the authorities would do an investigation into who impregnated her?

General warrants are unconstitutional, and that's what you're talking about.  See the part that I bolded up top?  No way to accomplish that without something like a general warrant, and historically, courts have frowned upon that sort of thing in the US.

Now, they could ask all male employees to voluntarily give a sample, but they can't require it of everyone, not without some kind of a warrant, and as I pointed out, a blanket search warrant or other court order covering each and every employee would be invalid on its face.

/IANAL
//When the wife lets me.


If only there was an investigation to narrow down the pool of dads.
2013-10-11 02:00:03 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Mike Chewbacca: Paternity test on the baby compared with the DNA of every male employee at that hospital in the last year. Fire him, fine him, make him pay someone to take care of the baby. She may have consented, but like with a teacher farking a student, when there's a power dynamic, it's completely unacceptable.

Yes, require everyone to give a sample of their private, personal effects without a warrant, court order, or any particularized suspicion.  If you aren't guilty, what do you have to hide, right?

And woe betide anyone who refuses, because the only possible reason anyone wouldn't agree to something so intrusive is because they are the rapist, right?


Did I say anything about no court order or warrant? If a female inmate of a prison was impregnated, don't you think the authorities would do an investigation into who impregnated her?
2013-10-11 01:58:15 PM
1 votes:

cryinoutloud: ou don't miss it when your damn wife is schizophrenic.


Didn't he ask his whackadoodle church to help them pray the crazy away?
2013-10-11 01:51:22 PM
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Human garbage. Someone should have flushed this piece of crap long ago.


Well, we haven't identified him yet. You did mean the institution employee who impregnated her, right? You didn't mean we should kill someone for having psychosis, did you?

Postpartum depression/psychosis, for those of you screaming "sterilize them all" is treatable.
2013-10-11 01:35:28 PM
1 votes:
...aaaand I just spent 15 minutes of my life on KnowYourMeme, partly trying to figure out if this is the actual case of "mother> who kill their babbys, becuse these babby cant frigth back?" from the "how is babby formed" meme.

For the record, it's not: the kids were buried in New York, but that incident happened in either Arizona or Arkansas (the state abbreviation given is AR, but given the source I don't trust it to be correct), about two years before this one. But there were three of them; it's that and the New York connection that made me curious.

Why "partly"? Because it's KnowYourMeme; you get sidetracked.

/I want my time back
2013-10-11 01:33:01 PM
1 votes:
I bet it was Pornstash
2013-10-11 01:29:08 PM
1 votes:
Just reading that made me feel like I had not bathed in a week. Truly the crusty filth at the bottom of the human barrel.
2013-10-11 01:26:30 PM
1 votes:
That is how Freddy Kruegers happen...crazy criminal lady gets impregnated and passes on teh bad sweater gene etc...

/ or somthing like that...
2013-10-11 01:25:11 PM
1 votes:

brap: Wasn't Long Island Bathtub Billy Joel's second album?


Well, only the good die young.

/aisle please
2013-10-11 01:22:39 PM
1 votes:
Wasn't Long Island Bathtub Billy Joel's second album?
2013-10-11 12:59:32 PM
1 votes:
Don't stick your dick in crazy. It's right there in the employment form.
 
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