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2013-10-11 09:20:25 AM

jayhawk88: wood0366: See, the thing that befuddles me about this entire debacle is that they're hoping to eventually have the Presidency be a Republican.

All they're doing now is just setting the groundwork for whoever is in opposition to use the same tools against them. It's not like there's any specific "You must be a Republican to use these clauses" additions to law.

This is the most bizarre thing to me as well, and proof that no one in the GOP really care about anything beyond making it through their next election.


If I was a betting man, and I'm not, this is the legislative equivalent of a Checkov's Gun; if you pass law that farks over another party in power, it can and will be used against you when you're in power.
 
2013-10-11 09:20:46 AM

edmo: I guess we really won't know until the Congress actually sends a budget to the President. Until then we're only guessing.

These political soap operas sure underscore how little people know about how the government works. Why else would you blame Obama when Congress isn't doing it's job?


Exactly. Obama can't be blamed for anything unless he vetoes something. So far, he hasn't been given that opportunity.
 
2013-10-11 09:21:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5M50xBz1cU



Stupid Teahadists....didn't these morons grow up watching Schoolhouse rock like the rest of us?
 
2013-10-11 09:21:39 AM

Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.


Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.
 
2013-10-11 09:21:52 AM

EWreckedSean: Wellon Dowd: He has refused to negotiate anything unless the Republicans fully fund the government and raise the debt ceiling - unconditionally.

"Put down the gun and we can talk" is such an unreasonable position.

You guys crack me up. Like this is some unprecedented move that BOTH parties haven't done 17 times in the last 30 years or so.


If "do it or we'll default" is a legit strategy, then "no" is an equally legit response.

Don't bluff is you are afraid to be called.
 
2013-10-11 09:21:57 AM

Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.


It's like that Seinfeld episode about when George does the opposite of everything he would normally do.  If people just read what you say and think the opposite, they would get a better picture of what is actually happening.
 
2013-10-11 09:22:28 AM

Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.


There's no blink. Obamacare WAS THE COMPROMISE. You get nothing. Go home.
 
2013-10-11 09:22:34 AM

AlgertMan: The Republicans are on the verge of doing more damage to this country than Al-Qeada could ever dream of.


On the verge of?
 
2013-10-11 09:22:35 AM
Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque:
Maybe they know that they aren't ever going to win again.

The implications of this admission don't look good for the prospect of not plunging the U.S. into a messy and prolonged depression to thoroughly punish America  Dem Liebruls for rejecting their political agenda.
 
2013-10-11 09:23:00 AM

badhatharry: Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.

Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.


I admire your tenacity, but you know this isn't going to stick. And I'm not sure what you think you're going to get out of this transparent attempt at partisan support for those clearly in the wrong.
 
2013-10-11 09:24:45 AM

EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.


It's like a projector projecting into a projector!

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2013-10-11 09:24:48 AM

badhatharry: Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.

Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.


That analogy needs tweaking...the air conditioner actually works.  It works so well that the other people in the building who couldn't afford air conditioning now have their apartments cooled fir the first time.
 
2013-10-11 09:25:32 AM

badhatharry: Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.


How does that apply to this situation?  To make it analogous, assuming the landlord is Obama and the tenant is the GOP, the GOP is in charge of both setting the rent and also arranging the money to pay for it, not the landlord, his job is merely to ensure the rent is collected and spent on the building in exactly the manner the tenant decides.  The air conditioner that doesn't work, was actually ordered and paid for by the tenant a while ago so it seems silly to make an rent issue of it now.  If anything the tenant should argue about the air conditioner separately from demanding adjustments to a rent agreement they made unilaterially.
 
2013-10-11 09:25:48 AM
meh. as usual, krauthammer doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
2013-10-11 09:26:17 AM

Trivia Jockey: badhatharry: Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.

Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.

That analogy needs tweaking...the air conditioner actually works.  It works so well that the other people in the building who couldn't afford air conditioning now have their apartments cooled fir the first time.


They just decided it didn't work before it was installed. And then kept feeling that way while it was installed. And now that its being turned on, they are still saying it doesn't work, even as cool air wafts through the apartment.
 
2013-10-11 09:26:21 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: Hopefully, CK's unblemished record of being wrong continues.


Seriously...has Krauthammer EVER been right predicting anything? If he said the Sun was coming up tomorrow I'd get a second opinion.
 
2013-10-11 09:27:32 AM
Oh good... here comes the torrent of completely invalid analogies from dozens of people who don't have any idea how their own government funds programs, what's being funded, or how the funding is achieved.

Yay....
 
2013-10-11 09:27:34 AM

EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.


The Republicans have shown extraordinary competence in making themselves look bad. They need no help from Obama.
 
2013-10-11 09:27:46 AM
The Affordable Care Act: Passed by the congress, signed by the president, litigated before the Supreme Court, the law of the land.

Suck it you cruel greedy conservatards.

Americans are buying health insurance right now on the Obamacare web site.
Right. Now.
 
2013-10-11 09:28:43 AM

EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.


Maybe if they started acting like principled politicians, he wouldn't have so much of an opportunity to show the world how unprincipled they can be.

They tried to extort the President into compliance.  They tried to rewire how the political system works in this country and they did so by relying on the President being a kinder, more moral politician than they are.

He could literally order the DC police to arrest them for treasonous behavior and I'd stand up and cheer.  The GOP went too far this time.
 
2013-10-11 09:28:46 AM

badhatharry: Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.

Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises asks for the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work because you refuse to allow it to be plugged in. Crazy.


Still a terrible analogy, but at least slightly more reflective of reality.
 
2013-10-11 09:29:09 AM
You know, when I want sage and wise advice... I think to myself, I say self... How about asking a brilliant man. You know, the kind of man that can't even jump into a farking swimming pool without breaking his own gawdamned neck and paralyzing himself for life. I know that even though millions of people climb in and out of swimming pools without any injury -- every minute of the day -- all over the world. I think, boy I REALLY want to hear the opinion a bitter, partisan cripple trapped in a wheelchair who shiats himself. If you could not tell the water was too shallow in a pool before you jumped in, I might be thinkin' that I could seriously give less of a flying fark what you have to say on a one-sided "news" channel that especially caters to nitwits and idiots.

flaggman.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-11 09:30:13 AM
HEH HEH HEH, We've got them right where they want us!

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY!
 
2013-10-11 09:31:19 AM

AlgertMan: The Republicans are on the verge of doing more damage to this country than Al-Qeada could ever dream of.


I remember reading that one of OBL's goals was to tank America's economy following the attack on the WTC. Apparently the buildings falling was ice on the cake to him.
 
MFK
2013-10-11 09:31:30 AM
I love how this waterhead comes to the conclusion that because the GOP's approval rating is in the shiatter because they are holding the economy hostage, it must have been Obama's true intent all along to destroy the GOP.


The whole first part of the "article" is basically one long "ThanksObama.gif"
 
2013-10-11 09:32:39 AM

skozlaw: Oh good... here comes the torrent of completely invalid analogies from dozens of people who don't have any idea how their own government funds programs, what's being funded, or how the funding is achieved.

Yay....


Imagine the government were a family on a budget.  Then your big black neighbor named ObamaCare breaks in and rapes your dog.  Now I'm supposed to pay taxes to fund gay Muslim marriages so my communist pen-pal can buy carbon credits?  What about ACORN?  Also, Reagan is the real President.
 
2013-10-11 09:33:20 AM

EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.


You know the GOP has truly failed when conservatives start trotting out the "both sides are bad" argument.
 
2013-10-11 09:33:20 AM

Dahnkster: You know, when I want sage and wise advice... I think to myself, I say self... How about asking a brilliant man. You know, the kind of man that can't even jump into a farking swimming pool without breaking his own gawdamned neck and paralyzing himself for life. I know that even though millions of people climb in and out of swimming pools without any injury -- every minute of the day -- all over the world. I think, boy I REALLY want to hear the opinion a bitter, partisan cripple trapped in a wheelchair who shiats himself. If you could not tell the water was too shallow in a pool before you jumped in, I might be thinkin' that I could seriously give less of a flying fark what you have to say on a one-sided "news" channel that especially caters to nitwits and idiots.

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That's slightly over the top, don't you think?

Unless you're a troll trying to get folks to pile on.
If that's the case, you suck even worse.

plonk.
 
2013-10-11 09:33:46 AM

LasersHurt: They just decided it didn't work before it was installed. And then kept feeling that way while it was installed. And now that its being turned on, they are still saying it doesn't work, even as cool air wafts through the apartment.


There it is.
 
2013-10-11 09:34:34 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Imagine the government were a family on a budget.  Then your big black neighbor named ObamaCare breaks in and rapes your dog.  Now I'm supposed to pay taxes to fund gay Muslim marriages so my communist pen-pal can buy carbon credits?  What about ACORN?  Also, Reagan is the real President.


OK that's kind of funny.
 
2013-10-11 09:34:56 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Washington Post is just Fox News in print, isn't it?


Seriously! Look at all the Republicans the editorial board endorsed for president since they started picking sides in the 70s.
 
2013-10-11 09:35:14 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: The Affordable Care Act: Passed by the congress, signed by the president, litigated before the Supreme Court, the law of the land.


It's better than that.

Passed by Congress (as elected by the people)
Signed by the President (who was elected by the people)
Litigated unsuccessfully before the Supreme Court (legitimized by the law of the land)
Survived more than forty repeal votes (as cast by representatives elected by the people)
Enforced by the President (who was re-elected by the people)

The GOP's argument?

"We're just trying to protect the people like they want us to!"

They literally caused this entire mess solely because they're angry that when they play by the rules they can't get their way because nobody likes their way and democracy has spoken strongly and repeatedly against them.

And to top it off, the only reason we don't already have a clean CR on funding is because ONE PERSON won't let the elected body vote on it.

A tiny group of people who represent MAYBE 20% of the country are gaming the system because they're angry that in free and fair elections their opinions lose. It's completely insane.
 
2013-10-11 09:35:16 AM

Trivia Jockey: LasersHurt: They just decided it didn't work before it was installed. And then kept feeling that way while it was installed. And now that its being turned on, they are still saying it doesn't work, even as cool air wafts through the apartment.

There it is.


So the GOP turned the oven on full-blast and broke the door off.
 
2013-10-11 09:35:24 AM

Heraclitus: HEH HEH HEH, We've got them right where they want us!

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY!


Yeah, right?
It's hard for me to allow myself to think the dems won't fold up like lawn chairs here, as they have every time before.
 
2013-10-11 09:36:12 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: skozlaw: Oh good... here comes the torrent of completely invalid analogies from dozens of people who don't have any idea how their own government funds programs, what's being funded, or how the funding is achieved.

Yay....

Imagine the government were a family on a budget.  Then your big black neighbor named ObamaCare breaks in and rapes your dog.  Now I'm supposed to pay taxes to fund gay Muslim marriages so my communist pen-pal can buy carbon credits?  What about ACORN?  Also, Reagan is the real President.

FINALLY

somebody gets it!
 
2013-10-11 09:36:28 AM

mrshowrules: EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.

You know the GOP has truly failed when conservatives start trotting out the "both sides are bad" argument.


The GOP is fleeing in open retreat, screaming like little girls with skinned knees.  Their approval rating is around 27% nationwide, which is as low as it's ever been.  Ever.  In recorded history.

This shutdown wasn't just a disaster, it was THE disaster.  Their political equivalent of Cali's Big One.  All they want to do now is try and end this with 'some' semblance of pride, some small shred of dignity.  And, make no mistake about it, they hate the Tea Party with the power of ten thousand exploding suns now.
 
2013-10-11 09:37:20 AM
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"It's a bluff. Obama will blink."

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2013-10-11 09:38:31 AM

EWreckedSean: Mrbogey: Obama won't blink as long as he believes Republicans will be blamed. The damage done by the brinkmanship is a non-consideration for him.

And he will happily do anything he can to make it look worse for Republicans too, no matter whom it hurts in the short term. Which is what politicians, left or right, do. Principle walked out on all sides of government a long time ago.


When doing what is best for the country and it's citizens politically damages the GOP, perhaps the GOP should re-evaluate their platform.
 
2013-10-11 09:38:48 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: skozlaw: Oh good... here comes the torrent of completely invalid analogies from dozens of people who don't have any idea how their own government funds programs, what's being funded, or how the funding is achieved.

Yay....

Imagine the government were a family on a budget.  Then your big black neighbor named ObamaCare breaks in and rapes your dog.  Now I'm supposed to pay taxes to fund gay Muslim marriages so my communist pen-pal can buy carbon credits?  What about ACORN?  Also, Reagan is the real President.


No no no no no.  It's like the 49ers are 4th and 10 on their own 5 yard line against the Ravens, and they fake the punt but run it out of their own end zone for a safety, and when they're arguing about the call Jesus storms the field on his T-rex and declares them the champions forever and anyone who disagrees with Jesus half of them he lets the T-rex eat and the other half he judo chops them in the throat til their nuts falls off because Jesus don't take no shiat from nobody.
 
2013-10-11 09:38:49 AM

Teresaol31: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5M50xBz1cU

Stupid Teahadists....didn't these morons grow up watching Schoolhouse rock like the rest of us?


According to the TeaBagger set, all that "education stuff" is communism.

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2013-10-11 09:38:57 AM

skozlaw: A tiny group of people who represent MAYBE 20% of the country are gaming the system because they're angry that in free and fair elections their opinions lose. It's completely insane.


It's about 80 representatives from 30 states.
Check my profile for the list of states, districts, and names.
 
2013-10-11 09:39:09 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Heraclitus: HEH HEH HEH, We've got them right where they want us!

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY!

Yeah, right?
It's hard for me to allow myself to think the dems won't fold up like lawn chairs here, as they have every time before.


Except for 2012, 2010, 2008, the passing of Obamacare into law, its confirmation by the SC, and all the other times the GOP got its ass beat in the last 5 years while the GOP ran in circles and blamed each other for each defeat.
 
2013-10-11 09:39:27 AM

badhatharry: AlgertMan: The Republicans are on the verge of doing more damage to this country than Al-Qeada could ever dream of.

Anarchists, arsonists, kidnappers, jihadists, terrorists, and now they are Al-Qaeda. This is kind of name calling should sound strange to people. People are accepting it. It's a sign that the end game is near.


I think it's a lot more fitting descriptor of the guys conspiring to destroy the American economy than the guys who thought the war in Iraq was a bad idea, don't you?

/in other words:  I was called every one of those names and worse for 6 years by your team.  fark YOU.
 
2013-10-11 09:39:30 AM

max_pooper: When doing what is best for the country and it's citizens politically damages the GOP, perhaps the GOP should re-evaluate their platform.


They did, then threw those results out and decided that they needed to get more conservative.
 
2013-10-11 09:39:41 AM

Infernalist: Their approval rating is around 27% nationwide, which is as low as it's ever been. Ever. In recorded history.


To be fair, "recorded history" in this case starts in the 1990s.  But it's hard to imagine any time in the past when the conservatives have been hated this much, and there appears to be no signs of them letting up on antagonizing voters in time to salvage the midterm elections.  Losing the House would be historic.
 
2013-10-11 09:40:43 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Heraclitus: HEH HEH HEH, We've got them right where they want us!

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY!

Yeah, right?
It's hard for me to allow myself to think the dems won't fold up like lawn chairs here, as they have every time before.


I suspect they'll cave and cut some "entitlements" and throw in a Keystone XL sweetener.

Democrats are like self-folding origami paper sometimes.
 
2013-10-11 09:40:57 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: skozlaw: A tiny group of people who represent MAYBE 20% of the country are gaming the system because they're angry that in free and fair elections their opinions lose. It's completely insane.

It's about 80 representatives from 30 states.
Check my profile for the list of states, districts, and names.


80/435 ~= 18.4%
So sounds like he hit the nail on the head.
 
2013-10-11 09:41:35 AM

jakomo002: HotIgneous Intruder: Heraclitus: HEH HEH HEH, We've got them right where they want us!

Time to snatch defeat from the jaws of VICTORY!

Yeah, right?
It's hard for me to allow myself to think the dems won't fold up like lawn chairs here, as they have every time before.

I suspect they'll cave and cut some "entitlements" and throw in a Keystone XL sweetener.

Democrats are like self-folding origami paper sometimes.


What's that Democrat assessment based on exactly?  Wishful thinking?
 
2013-10-11 09:41:41 AM
Considering Obama had an off the record meeting with Krauthammer this week, this article feels staged.    They have to make the Teahadists feel like they're getting some sort of victory or concession out of sekret Kenyan usurper, even if it's completely symbolic and hollow, so the rest of the grownups can get back to work.
 
2013-10-11 09:41:50 AM

Trivia Jockey: badhatharry: Trivia Jockey: Do these people really not see why "negotiation" isn't even relevant here?  It's like calling up your credit card company after maxing out the card, demanding that they double your limit, and then complaining that they "won't negotiate" when they say no.  And then you refuse to pay the card, go to work, and feed your kids.

Or like when you refuse to pay your rent when your landlord raises the rent because he put in a new air conditioner that doesn't work. Crazy.

That analogy needs tweaking...the air conditioner actually works.  It works so well that the other people in the building who couldn't afford air conditioning now have their apartments cooled fir the first time.


50% of the people didn't want this air conditioner. Now people that were for the new ac are now complaining that they have to pay double for crappy ac.

The landlord needs to at least make an attempt to make the complainers happy. Done with this stupid analogy.
 
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