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2013-10-11 12:01:20 PM
Two counts of stupid.

This kid was going to be nothing but problems. Glad he solved one for us himself.
 
2013-10-11 12:03:26 PM
If something as petty as peeing in an alley or streaking in public can land someone on the sex offenders list, the list becomes meaningless to its original intent and in time will be dismissed as no longer useful.

Sad story and a complete overreach from the school.  Frankly, this could happen just about anywhere a person of authority plants a seed like this in a family's mind.  Idle threats from the school spiraled and now a family's life in ruined and a boy is dead.  Shameful.
 
2013-10-11 12:03:45 PM

Mugato


Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore?
No you can't. That would unravel the thought crime laws the democrats spend the late 80's and 90's pushing for. It's not what you said, it's if someone got offended that counts.

Think that's an exaggeration? Go look at HR documentation on sensitivity training.
 
2013-10-11 12:07:25 PM
SuperNinjaToad

because KP was trying to imply that this were the works of evil christians when it's actually the liberals who were largely responsible for the assinine over regulated protect my bubblewrap kid statues.
You're arguing with bigots about what a bigot said. You sir will not win.
 
2013-10-11 12:09:46 PM
Maybe he did it because girls were making fun of his lap pinky.
 
2013-10-11 12:10:00 PM
hailin:
Maybe it is a per state thing. We have had streakers and pantyraiders end up on our sexual offenders registry, though usually for streakers it is listed as public exposure, but raiders are listed as other;pantyraiding. It makes for some lawls reading through the registry that is for sure.

I'm calling shenanipants. According to your state, pantyraids are not registrable offenses.
 
2013-10-11 12:10:26 PM
See that's farked up. I'm pissed at the kid. Not because he committed suicide, but because he didn't kill every single person responsible for ruining his life first.

I mean, you get wrongly put on the sex offenders registry, yeah, I get suicide. But I'll be damned if the person who put me there isn't going to die in...a pretty horrible way first.
 
2013-10-11 12:11:20 PM
Just put us all on the Sex Offender list already. Seems to be where there going.
 
2013-10-11 12:11:34 PM
This farking stupid ass place. The "sex" laws are ridiculous. And in this era of instant database background search every time you want to take a step forward in your life, yeah, you're pretty much screwed.

Most will not look at your individual case. There are huge pools of applicants (college, employment, etc) and you will be tossed like bad Chinese food as soon as your, ha, "sex offender" status hits the screen.

People "with a past" used to just go to Alaska to start fresh. Now, there is nowhere to hide. You slap a kid with an undeserved sex offender or felon and you may as well have banished him or her from society.
 
2013-10-11 12:12:23 PM

stuffy: Just put us all on the Sex Offender list already. Seems to be where there going.


1.bp.blogspot.com
"I am Sexoffendercus!"
 
2013-10-11 12:13:02 PM
I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out. 

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one). 

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.
 
2013-10-11 12:15:21 PM

Wellon Dowd: Zero tolerance. It's not just a bad idea; it's a bad law.


Zero tolerance usually goes hand in hand with zero intelligence.

I think the reaction of the school administration to the prank, and to the suicide provides a perfect example of this.
 
2013-10-11 12:17:21 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out.

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one).

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-11 12:17:58 PM

skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.


I honestly don't know if the sex offender registery ever WAS a good thing. I mean, bad people will always be around. Does it make you safe to know about the one rapist two blocks away if there are three on your block that just happened to have never been caught and therefore are not on the registry? Does ANY aspect of the registry really affect how you protect yourself or tell your kids to protect themselves? I mean, what percentage of "don't get in a car with a stranger" type lessons are reduced due to the existence of the registry? It does no actual good. At best it provides a false sense of security and at worst it criminalizes people like the kid in this article.

I think it was never a good idea, it was only an idea that was easy for craven politicians to sell to a lazy electorate.
 
2013-10-11 12:21:16 PM
The law MUST be upheld.  Ignorance of the law is NO excuse.  Zero tolerance.
 
2013-10-11 12:25:37 PM

gshepnyc: skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.

I honestly don't know if the sex offender registery ever WAS a good thing. I mean, bad people will always be around. Does it make you safe to know about the one rapist two blocks away if there are three on your block that just happened to have never been caught and therefore are not on the registry? Does ANY aspect of the registry really affect how you protect yourself or tell your kids to protect themselves? I mean, what percentage of "don't get in a car with a stranger" type lessons are reduced due to the existence of the registry? It does no actual good. At best it provides a false sense of security and at worst it criminalizes people like the kid in this article.

I think it was never a good idea, it was only an idea that was easy for craven politicians to sell to a lazy electorate.



Correct.  Lotta sprained elbows patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

Hey, check out Florida!

http://www.vice.com/read/sex-offenders-in-florida-now-have-warning-s ig ns-outside-their-homes

http://flaglerlive.com/55281/sex-offender-registries/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colo ny
 
2013-10-11 12:25:56 PM
Follow the modern meme:

Someone commits suicide, someone goes to jail.

Just as if bullies drove the kid to suicide, charge the administrators with manslaughter.
 
2013-10-11 12:29:27 PM
well, that is one less attention whore.One down, a Brazillion to go...
 
2013-10-11 12:29:48 PM
They would have had to jail a LOT of college kids during the 70s if this current attitude was in effect.
 
2013-10-11 12:31:40 PM

OnlyM3: Mugato


Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore?No you can't. That would unravel the thought crime laws the democrats spend the late 80's and 90's pushing for. It's not what you said, it's if someone got offended that counts.

Think that's an exaggeration? Go look at HR documentation on sensitivity training.


Right, it's a democrat/republican partisan thing. Take a look at what happened to this country under the Republican regime after 9/11 and seriously contend that it's the Democrats who are the assholes.
 
2013-10-11 12:40:42 PM

Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it


I can't prove it. A friend of mine had this happen to him. He was literally in the car on the way to the station when the cop got a call and had to let him go. I wouldn't believe a word of this if it didn't come out of this particular mans mouth.
 
2013-10-11 12:45:31 PM

SpectroBoy: When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?


When it happened in the south.
 
2013-10-11 12:52:15 PM

Richard Flaccid: SpectroBoy: When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?

When it happened in the south.


theatheistconservative.com
 
2013-10-11 12:57:34 PM
While I don't condone public nudity, Zero Tolerance laws (like the three strikes laws) make it so that people residing on the case have no discretion.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I had a 17 year-old friend, who on a dare stripped and ran around the block naked at night. Harmless, impulsive and really naive kid.
To think of the possibility that instead of getting 100 hours of community service instead of a ruined life on the sex-offender registry makes me sad.
 
2013-10-11 12:59:00 PM
AAAAaaaaaaaannnnnddd.....the mascot gets a pass..... (fur=/= clothes)
 
2013-10-11 12:59:55 PM

LasersHurt: From Reddit:

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I'm sure there was a whole bunch of "YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE!" coming from dad and the administration.

Really sad.
 
2013-10-11 01:01:17 PM

IRQ12: LasersHurt: From Reddit:

"

I'm sure there was a whole bunch of "YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE!" coming from dad and the administration.

Really sad.


Yeah. Too many people here are putting this 100% on the kid, ignoring that the Adults around him almost certainly went above and beyond an appropriate reaction. Ultimately he did what he did, but 15 year old boys are not known for their mature stability.
 
2013-10-11 01:06:09 PM

Witness99: You slap a kid with an undeserved sex offender or felon and you may as well have banished him or her from society.


This. Anyone trying to deny the school's culpability in this doesn't seem to grasp the root of the problem. Yes, the kid probably shouldn't have streaked. He definitely shouldn't have killed himself over merely being threatened. Suicide was a rash, premature "you can't fire me I quit," type of desperate response. It was needless to be sure.

But the school really shouldn't have threatened to ruin a kid's life for pulling a prank that harmed no one. Not to mention the evil involved in abusing something as serious as the sex offender registry simply to punish insolence, which, as others have said, would only dilute the purpose of having such a list in the first place. No doubt about it, the school administration's over-zealotry in making sure the little punks are sorry is the real problem here.
 
2013-10-11 01:22:29 PM
Back in the 70's we had streakers all of the time. Usually, if caught, the most they were charged with was public indecency and slapped with a small fine.

Today, they face a list of charges, the worst dealing with sex offender laws, which alone can ruin their lives forever. If charged with a sexual offense, the kid gets smeared in the papers, the national news, gets kicked out of Boy Scouts, has to go before a judge and get raked over the coals, his family gets to spend an extraordinary amount of cash for a lawyer, chances are he'd be evaluated by a shrink or two, kicked out of school and can kiss any future plans of a good job good-bye.

He'd have been better off getting arrested for possession of drugs.

In my time, Principals knew that kids were kids. They took each case on its merits alone and sometimes, the punishment consisted of detention, a 'good talking to', parents informed and that was it. They didn't have 'Zero Tolerance' government mandates rearing over their heads like a blood thirsty monster, ready to snatch funds away if their rules were not followed to the letter with no room for common sense.

No congressman will even suggest rewriting these laws to put some intelligence in them. None will even suggest that zero tolerance be stopped. Hastily and poorly constructed sex offender laws face the same fate.

And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.

I actually feel sorry for kids in school today. If they even fart wrong, out come the lawyers, the cops and the courts. Kids will make mistakes and challenge the norm -- which is what kids do as they grow up. Our leaders seem to have forgotten about that.

Current parents seem reluctant to challenge the Zero Tolerance policies also, even though their kids will be the most affected.
 
2013-10-11 01:34:36 PM
Why don't we have a violent offenders list? I'd like to know if the guy moving in next door has a history of assault and battery, or could fly off the handle at the drop of a hat.
 
2013-10-11 01:39:54 PM
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2013-10-11 01:40:47 PM
Serious question: If he is a minor, wouldn't he be able to petition the court to have his records sealed and expunged on his 18th birthday? How does that work with the sex offender registry, would they be required to seal his records too??
 
2013-10-11 01:42:50 PM
 
2013-10-11 01:43:50 PM

Rik01: And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.


[Citation needed]
... particularly since I think you're referring to this, which notes "Legally, there's no such thing as sexual assault for a six year-old in California."
 
2013-10-11 01:53:16 PM

Ellis D Trails: My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.


I'll never forget the story I read (on Fark) about the young guy that committed suicide after being sent to prison for pot possession. He had a small amount, personal use, not a dealer. He was 18 and had a college scholarship, whole life ahead of him. He got busted and then overly punished by a judge who wanted to make an example of him (I think it was one or two years in prison). He lost his scholarship and got repeatedly butt raped in prison. Killed himself shortly after, due to the trauma of the rape and how much he lost.

And to think, pot will soon be legal everywhere (floodgates are open). IMHO, pot is less harmful, in many ways, than alcohol. A sad story, and this one reminds me of it .
 
2013-10-11 01:56:14 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


I remember the streaking "streak" (sorry) in the 70s....I was in junior high school, would sometimes see or hear about it. I would laugh, my parents would laugh, life went on.
 
2013-10-11 01:58:11 PM

papatex: Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it

I can't prove it. A friend of mine had this happen to him. He was literally in the car on the way to the station when the cop got a call and had to let him go. I wouldn't believe a word of this if it didn't come out of this particular mans mouth.


Sounds like he was never even charged, how did he get on the sex offender list?
 
2013-10-11 01:59:56 PM
"I don't want to live in this country anymore."

What a farking disgrace.

Check this blog out: "COTWA: Community of the wrongly accused".

http://www.cotwa.info/2013/10/the-death-of-christian-adamek-and-zero .h tml
 
2013-10-11 02:14:19 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


This.
 
2013-10-11 02:20:02 PM
I don't mean to get all "Alex Jones" here, cause I really don't like the guy...but what the hell is going on with this social conditioning? Natural things we did in the seventies and eighties are now suicide worthy events. We read constantly about snowflakes and helicopter parents and young people unprepared for the workforce.

This environment is breeding the balls out of people (men and women, figuratively speaking). Think about that. Where is the thick skin? Where is the common sense on the part of officials? Where is the flexibility? I don't like this at all. Well, back to my inflexible corporate world now.
 
2013-10-11 02:20:51 PM

Evil Mackerel: They are a real threat.


More than you can imagine, given that they reside in God fearing country.

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2013-10-11 02:23:54 PM

Theaetetus: Ellis D Trails: My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.

If he was in law school, then he was probably at least 22 at the time. What was he doing messing around with a high school kid?


Who said it was a high school girl?  she could have been a student at the University.
 
2013-10-11 02:41:54 PM

colinspooky: If this story is spot on, it makes me so angry that I .. oh fark it. These people are not worth it. It was a prank, nothing more. Just some stupid fun. In the past surely he would have been told off, told not to do it again and write 100 lines.
End of. Now?  Fark me I am livid. Nudity is not bad. No one will be damaged from seeing him. If it happened at every single match in every single town, pretty soon people would bore of it. How can being naked be offensive. Those who interpret the will of the sky wizard have a lot to answer for. Fark the lot of them.


You were going great until you decided to mock God.  Regulation Nation isn't God's fault, it's the result of the great disease of political correctness.  What are the roots of political correctness?  Cultural Marxism.  I think you need to understand your liberal heritage and the fact that it is not based in the hippie movement of free love, but in the tyrannical hate or totalitarianism. Most liberals are just useful idiots for that cause and do not have any idea where their thoughts originated.
 
2013-10-11 03:12:39 PM
The sex offender registry is grossly misused. It should be reserved for child molesters and actual rapist. Not streakers and 18 year old's consensually sleeping with their 17 year old boy/girlfriends.
 
2013-10-11 03:22:22 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


Hell. I was one of them.
 
2013-10-11 03:25:01 PM

SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.


Except it's not spot on.  It's not even remotely accurate to the real world.

In the vast majority of states, 15 yo can have sex with other 15yo and 14yo and 16yo and in some states, 17yo too.

Not only is he old enough to have sex, he's old enough to be a sexual predator.  (not that he was, but it's happened before)
 
2013-10-11 03:27:20 PM
DrPainMD:
Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.

------------------------------------------------------------>  over there.  Go be a dick over there.
 
2013-10-11 03:27:52 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out. 

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one). 

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.


You magnificent bastard!

THAT wins the awesomeness prize.
 
2013-10-11 04:03:12 PM

Theaetetus: Maybe he meant my use of "afather" rather than "his father"?


www.travelsnitch.org

That's just company policy...
 
2013-10-11 04:10:02 PM

Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it


CSB:

in my freshman year of college (then 18), i was walking home with a girl (days from 18) and we both had to pee.  we found a secluded spot, did our business, and before we knew it there were cops telling us not to move.  i was threatened by the cops to be put on the list for exposing myself in public and the presence of a minor.   they ended up letting us off, but i can definitely see this a being true, especially if it's some cop in podunk nowhere with little if any interesting things to do.
 
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