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2013-10-11 02:14:59 AM
1970's - Silly novelty pop hit for Ray Stevens and an equally silly fad.

2010's - "WE'LL RUIN YOUR LIFE!"

And so they did.

Progress.
 
2013-10-11 03:28:36 AM
Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously.

No, it really is pretty much just a prank, dude.
 
2013-10-11 03:47:32 AM
15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists
 
2013-10-11 04:34:28 AM
OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.
 
2013-10-11 04:37:28 AM
Sparkman High administrators even recommended that Adamek face a hearing in the Madison County court system to determine if formal charges would be filed, WHNT reported.

WTF does this mean? The high school "recommended" he go to court to see if he should have to go to court? recommended to who?

This doesn't make any sense.
 
2013-10-11 04:45:57 AM

Kittypie070: OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.


Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.
 
2013-10-11 04:56:52 AM

DrPainMD: Kittypie070: OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.

Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.


What does that have to do with what she said?
 
2013-10-11 04:59:33 AM

DrPainMD: Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US.



yes. those liberals who ran the state of California in 1947....
 
2013-10-11 05:05:05 AM
If this story is spot on, it makes me so angry that I .. oh fark it. These people are not worth it. It was a prank, nothing more. Just some stupid fun. In the past surely he would have been told off, told not to do it again and write 100 lines.
End of. Now?  Fark me I am livid. Nudity is not bad. No one will be damaged from seeing him. If it happened at every single match in every single town, pretty soon people would bore of it. How can being naked be offensive. Those who interpret the will of the sky wizard have a lot to answer for. Fark the lot of them.
 
2013-10-11 07:27:04 AM
Is there a greater crime than nudity?

If there is, I can't think of one right now.
 
2013-10-11 07:38:24 AM
We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?
 
2013-10-11 08:26:10 AM
Newsflash: Fifteen year old boys sometimes do stupid shiat like streak at football games. This is not a predictor of future rapeyness.  Film at eleven.
 
2013-10-11 09:36:14 AM
Streaking has gone from a relatively harmless and occasionally amusing prank to a serious crime.  FTA::"Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously."  Well, I think the kid treated it seriously.  Well done administration.   You've done an excellent job putting fear into anyone that would consider doing this heinous crime again,  Farking assholes. DIAF Mr. Campbell along with the rest of your self-righteous asshole administration.

Hell, at our homecoming game (and parade) we had guys that mooned the opposing team's stands one football season.  Yes, they were suspended, but nobody was talking about citing them for indecent exposure and sex crimes.
 
2013-10-11 10:07:47 AM

bunner: 1970's - Silly novelty pop hit for Ray Stevens and an equally silly fad.

2010's - "WE'LL RUIN YOUR LIFE!"

And so they did.

Progress.


This.

When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?
 
2013-10-11 10:09:00 AM
Public nudity should be mandatory. That would solve everything.
 
2013-10-11 10:09:25 AM
15 year old who wanted attention and got attention no longer wanted attention.
 
2013-10-11 10:09:32 AM
15 year old doing something many grown ass men have done, needs to be super serially treated.

What the actual fark happened to our youth and shenanigans.
 
2013-10-11 10:10:45 AM
Zero tolerance. It's not just a bad idea; it's a bad law.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:05 AM
Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists


This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:27 AM
This is how sad society has become, kid had no idea what the consequences were - now society killed him.

hell I brought a paintball marker on school campus and the resource officer who had some brains realized it was disassemed in a box and had no CO2 - she told me to park my car across the street and that was it.
Today they would of charged me blah blah expelled etc.
 
2013-10-11 10:11:29 AM
Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.
 
2013-10-11 10:12:32 AM
So he was...

*glasses*

Well hung?
 
2013-10-11 10:14:32 AM
Seriously, a sex offender registry has the aim of keeping dangerous criminals in the public spotlight.  You don't help to single out the dangerous trees if the entire forest is on the list.  Is the creep moving in next door on the list because he took a leak behind a billboard or because he raped a nun?
 
2013-10-11 10:15:10 AM

rudemix: So he was...

*glasses*

Well hung?


Actually, no; he died of his injuries two days later. If he'd been well hung, they would have found him dead.

/i know, i know...
 
2013-10-11 10:15:57 AM
Thanks for ruining lives, you heartless, paranoid farks.
 
2013-10-11 10:16:01 AM
did the school administration review video evidence of the event to prove it was him?  Good.  Have them charged with possession of child pornography
 
2013-10-11 10:16:01 AM

rudemix: So he was...

*glasses*

Well hung?


I guess this means that
*glasses*
His streak is over...
 
2013-10-11 10:17:40 AM
Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...
 
2013-10-11 10:18:01 AM
Ruining a kid's life (or in this case ending it) because of a silly registry is far, far worse than seeing a peener.
 
2013-10-11 10:18:06 AM

papatex: 15 year old who wanted attention and got attention no longer wanted attention.


that sums it up pretty well i suppose.
 
2013-10-11 10:18:07 AM

Misconduc: This is how sad society has become, kid had no idea what the consequences were - now society killed him.

hell I brought a paintball marker on school campus and the resource officer who had some brains realized it was disassemed in a box and had no CO2 - she told me to park my car across the street and that was it.
Today they would of charged me blah blah expelled etc.


I'll hazard a guess that anyone over the age of 25 has a similar story.  I was in the honor society, a two-sport varsity athlete, and went on to an Ivy League... I can think of a half dozen things that I did in HS that, when viewed in current "zero tolerance" light would have gotten me expelled, and likely ruined my future prospects, and yet, somehow, I didn't end up a blight on society... Go figure!
 
2013-10-11 10:18:45 AM

Nacc: 15 year old doing something many grown ass men have done, needs to be super serially treated.

What the actual fark happened to our youth and shenanigans.


Honestly? We gave everyone a vote.

Didn't you ever read that story in school where the mother is cooking soup and every family member tells her "I don't like X. Don't put X in the soup." and in the end she just serves them all hot water?
 
2013-10-11 10:19:10 AM

doglover: Public nudity should be mandatory. That would solve everything.


After seeing me naked, y'all would be petitioning for mandatory burkas
 
2013-10-11 10:19:46 AM
Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore? Was there any malice or perversion involved? Sure, he was being an idiot but he was also 15. Shiat, if I had the balls, no pun intended, I'd probably do something like that at that age. So he's put on the same list as a 50 year old who takes his dick out at a preschool. I hope whoever is responsible for treating this kid as a terrorist has to live with that the rest of his or her life.
 
2013-10-11 10:19:49 AM
From Reddit:

"
I knew this boy personally. I have known the family for several years, and go to school with him. I also know his sister very well. I have heard what happened from what the family told me. I was at the hospital with him, when he died. I have heard so many wrong versions of this story. So here is what happened.
On september 27th, we had a home football game versus a pretty big team. Shortly after half-time, he ran out of the bathroom by the concession stand and onto the field. This was about a 25 yard run. Once on the field, nobody knew what to do. He had a ski mask on, and a tube sock covering his junk. He had some illegible writing on his butt(we would later find out that he had someone jokingly write on his butt asking someone to homecoming). After he ran the distance of the field, he jumped a 4 foot chain link fence, followed shortly there after by an 8 foot tall chain link fence. After he had done all that running, he got winded and was worried he might pass out, so he sat down in the woods where he was found by police. He was promptly reclothed and was put in a cop car. I was with his sister when she saw him put in a cop car. He spent a few hours at the police station before he was picked up by his father. The following monday they had a meeting with our head principal and two assistant principals(we have a total of 5 assistant principals). It is not up to the principals to make the decision of expulsion, only the school board can do that. At said meeting though, one certain principal threw out a lot of scare tactics. She called him a terrorist, and a sex offender and everything else under the sun. After the meeting on monday, they were to reconvene on wednesday to further the discussion. He was never facing any sort of legal troubles at all, and I want to make that clear. All this talk of legal trouble, was from scare tactics. After the meeting on wednesday, they were leaning towards expulsion. After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage. He called the ambulance as soon as he saw it. He had been hanging for awhile at this point. The ambulance took him to a hospital where they got a pulse on him and got him breathing. All of this was done medically, and was due to medicine. They soon sent him to another hospital that had the right staff and equipment to treat him. After two brain scans, it was decided that there was no activity and the family decided to stop all medicine and take him off the respirator. I was with them the entire time at the hospital up until they took him off of it. They say that while his body left the house, he as a person, a soul, never left the house. He died on october 3rd, and was buried october 7th. I know this might get downvoted, and I apologize for any errors or wrongdoings by posting this. This is my Boobies, and I felt this just needed to be said. So much is being said that is wrong and I just want the truth at there. If you have any questions, pm me."
 
2013-10-11 10:19:52 AM
I know one principal that can DIAF.

/Two if you count my old one.
 
2013-10-11 10:20:34 AM

SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.


Reminds of that cases in Penn where the kids "sexting" were both charged as adults for distributing child pron... of themselves... charged as adults..

/I do think Penn fixed that problem recently at least
 
2013-10-11 10:21:09 AM

cman: DrPainMD: Kittypie070: OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.

Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.

What does that have to do with what she said?


because KP was trying to imply that this were the works of evil christians when it's actually the liberals who were largely responsible for the assinine over regulated protect my bubblewrap kid  statues.
 
2013-10-11 10:21:17 AM

revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...


Kids kill themselves over a lot less than the threat of being put on a permanent 'Your Life if Over' registry. And yes, kids younger than that have been put on the registry by judges who probably thought they were going to send a message. The age of 'this will blow over' has blown over.
 
2013-10-11 10:23:01 AM

papatex: 15 year old who wanted attention and got attention no longer wanted attention.


I take it from your mocking tone that you have no idea what being put on a sex offender registry would do to this kid. It would quite literally have wrecked his life. Forget college or holding down a decent job, this kid would have been lucky not to end up living under a bridge somewhere. But go ahead an blame him, I am sure that makes you feel better. Just try to imagine if it was someone you knew. Would you still blame him? Or would you show a little empathy?
 
2013-10-11 10:23:20 AM

Billy Bathsalt: Seriously, a sex offender registry has the aim of keeping dangerous criminals in the public spotlight.  You don't help to single out the dangerous trees if the entire forest is on the list.  Is the creep moving in next door on the list because he took a leak behind a billboard or because he raped a nun?


www.asterick.com

When we're all criminals, no one will be....

Seriously, almost anything can be interpreted as a crime now. And with people doing anything they can to punish these new 'criminals', society is heading toward a collapse where no one can find a job because they have a record. Then people will turn to more crime because they have no prospects and no hope.
 
2013-10-11 10:23:36 AM

DrPainMD: It went federal in 1994


Well, no.
The 1994 law simply required states to create their own. It wasn't until SORNA under Bush that there was a federal registry.
 
2013-10-11 10:26:25 AM

papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.



Sounds like the "no one can see you" part wasn't entirely accurate.
 
2013-10-11 10:26:42 AM
I live very close to Huntsville.  Sadly, this is one of the more sane things the nutjobs around here do, and I am speaking about sending the kid to court over streaking.

I can't fault the child.  Being on the sex offender registry around here means that the only date you will ever get is a cousin of yours.  His life was over.  Given that his life was over before it began, I can't blame him for not waiting until the grisly end of a terrible life.

Sorry to see you go, kid, had you been born elsewhere in the US you'd have had a long and happy life occasionally telling the story of the time you streaked and then continuing to be a perfectly normal person.
 
2013-10-11 10:27:03 AM
Harsh punishments that cause more harm than good get votes for lazy politicians from stupid people.

Things will continue to get worse because politicians are basically selfish dishonest assholes.
 
2013-10-11 10:27:44 AM

revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...


I have no doubt that there are many judges who would put this kid on the sex offender registry. They might not even have a choice. That's what happens when every elected official, from the president to your local judge, is terrified of being labeled soft on crime. We reap what we have sown. Imagine how it will be in ten years, their will probably be jails built right into the schools.
 
2013-10-11 10:27:44 AM
Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.
 
2013-10-11 10:29:20 AM

LasersHurt: At said meeting though, one certain principal threw out a lot of scare tactics. She called him a terrorist, and a sex offender and everything else under the sun. After the meeting on monday, they were to reconvene on wednesday to further the discussion. He was never facing any sort of legal troubles at all, and I want to make that clear. All this talk of legal trouble, was from scare tactics.


If this is true, this certain principal is going to be in for a world of pain once this hits the courts. Doubly so if there were living witnesses to this willing to testify. Not sure what he'd be charged with, or civilly charged with, but a jury most likely is going to be looking for blood if that gets out.
 
2013-10-11 10:29:42 AM

revman64: It would have blown over in time


Not really. When I got my house I looked up where the sex offenders were (I was looking for a hook up I KEED, I KEED).

They list the people who are on the list but they don't say what they did. No, that kid's life was ruined. He had no chance of getting an actual job. I'm not saying he should have killed himself but I understand it.
 
2013-10-11 10:29:50 AM

webron: revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...

I have no doubt that there are many judges who would put this kid on the sex offender registry. They might not even have a choice. That's what happens when every elected official, from the president to your local judge, is terrified of being labeled soft on crime. We reap what we have sown. Imagine how it will be in ten years, their will probably be jails built right into the schools.


Pardon my typo, I meant there not their.
 
2013-10-11 10:29:50 AM
Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.

I assure you it would not have possibly ruined the rest of his life.  It would have definitely ruined the rest of his life.  The people of the Huntsville area are more of a senseless beast than Anonymous tries to portray that they are.
 
2013-10-11 10:32:28 AM

seek3r: SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.

Reminds of that cases in Penn where the kids "sexting" were both charged as adults for distributing child pron... of themselves... charged as adults..

/I do think Penn fixed that problem recently at least


Penn?
 
2013-10-11 10:33:11 AM

slayer199: Streaking has gone from a relatively harmless and occasionally amusing prank to a serious crime.  FTA::"Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously."  Well, I think the kid treated it seriously.  Well done administration.   You've done an excellent job putting fear into anyone that would consider doing this heinous crime again,  Farking assholes. DIAF Mr. Campbell along with the rest of your self-righteous asshole administration.

Hell, at our homecoming game (and parade) we had guys that mooned the opposing team's stands one football season.  Yes, they were suspended, but nobody was talking about citing them for indecent exposure and sex crimes.


One of the many problems here is how school admins have criminalized discipline. There used to be room for kids doing stupid stuff in the US, now school administrations will sick the cops on you for stepping out of line. My senior high school year, our admin held a senior's only assembly where they basically said "if there is a senior prank, we won't graduate any of you, and we will bring charges against anyone we can pin it on". I doubt they were serious, but it just goes to show that these days, rather than there being any space for kids being kids, School administrators choose to run things on fear and the threat of criminal charges.
 
2013-10-11 10:33:18 AM
Good. One more weakling dead.
 
2013-10-11 10:33:47 AM

Pichu0102: If this is true, this certain principal is going to be in for a world of pain once this hits the courts. Doubly so if there were living witnesses to this willing to testify. Not sure what he'd be charged with, or civilly charged with, but a jury most likely is going to be looking for blood if that gets out.


Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but absolutely nothing will happen to the people involved in this now-claimed scare tactic.

See, here's the thing of it in this area: People in charge of anything at all are going to do anything they want to the things they are in charge of.  If it works out in the person in charge's favor absolutely nothing is done about it even if people complain.  However, if the thing the person in charge does goes wildly wrong they claim it was just a scare tactic for DAAH CHILLRIN and then everyone either complains more or says oh duh okay we's laaeik it now (plus or minus a few H's and Y's for no apparent reason).  They occasionally use "it was just a joke" and the mindless people around here eat it up.  Either way, nothing actually happens to the person in authority because they're in authority and around here, that's all it takes to be invincible.

It's just the way it is.  Stupid people in charge of stupid people is always going to be a nightmare scenario, one that nobody knows how to get out of because... they're stupid.
 
2013-10-11 10:35:09 AM
Does the ACLU even exist in Alabama?

Rowtahded.
 
2013-10-11 10:35:40 AM
So I've been to New Orleans on any given weekend, not just Mardi Gras and Savanna on St. Paddy's Day and adult naked girls on the street are plentiful. Do they get arrested and put on a list? Keep in mind, I am in no way advocating that they should be, I'm just asking.
 
2013-10-11 10:38:49 AM

webron: papatex: 15 year old who wanted attention and got attention no longer wanted attention.

I take it from your mocking tone that you have no idea what being put on a sex offender registry would do to this kid. It would quite literally have wrecked his life. Forget college or holding down a decent job, this kid would have been lucky not to end up living under a bridge somewhere. But go ahead an blame him, I am sure that makes you feel better. Just try to imagine if it was someone you knew. Would you still blame him? Or would you show a little empathy?


First of all, you sound fat. Secondly, who else should get the blame? Did the principles make him run nekkid on the field? Life's about choices and dealing with them. That being said, whoever pushed him to the point of suicide should look hard at their own lives and consider if it was worth it. Nothing in life is EVER worth suicide or scaring someone so much that they think about it. A fifteen year old doing a prank or a drunk killing an innocent, there's no use in scaring them so much that life isn't worth it to them.
 
2013-10-11 10:40:17 AM

emgamera: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.


Sounds like the "no one can see you" part wasn't entirely accurate.


This is true, wasn't me, an acquaintance, but I guess the cop had something against him taking a wizz on a tree.
 
2013-10-11 10:40:50 AM
If that reddit post is true, I feel terrible for the father who was the last person to talk to his son and shortly after the "talk", the boy hung himself.  I bet there wasn't much talking going on, just a frustrated father going off as evidenced by his need to go outside to cool off.  As a parent of teenagers, I try to mix the tough-love conversations and encouragement together to soften the blow a bit.  The boy did something stupid, but it should not have been brought to life-ending consequences.  I know this is FARK, but this is really sad and such a waste.
 
2013-10-11 10:41:32 AM

Heron: One of the many problems here is how school admins have criminalized discipline. There used to be room for kids doing stupid stuff in the US, now school administrations will sick the cops on you for stepping out of line


When I was in jr high some big ass dude beat the shiat out of me like 3 times (I'm a skinny guy). I complained to the principal and he was just "boys will be boys" and wrote it off. The 4th time I slugged the dude and knocked him out. Got suspended and almost expelled. Wound up on my "permanent record".

Life isn't fair sometimes. But my sad story doesn't compare to this bullshiat.
 
2013-10-11 10:41:45 AM

SuperNinjaToad: because KP was trying to imply that this were the works of evil christians when it's actually the liberals who were largely responsible for the assinine over regulated protect my bubblewrap kid statues.


Sigh...

The 1947 California  law was passed by the [x] majority and signed by GOP Governor Earl Warren
The 1994 federal law was passed by Democratic majorities in both houses and signed by Bill Clinton
The 2006 update that created the national registry was passed by GOP majorities in both houses and signed by George W Bush

[x] = couldn't for the life of me find out who controlled the state legislature

So, in short, BSABSVR.
 
2013-10-11 10:42:14 AM

Mugato: So I've been to New Orleans on any given weekend, not just Mardi Gras and Savanna on St. Paddy's Day and adult naked girls on the street are plentiful. Do they get arrested and put on a list? Keep in mind, I am in no way advocating that they should be, I'm just asking.


They get put on my list of things to do.
 
2013-10-11 10:44:30 AM

papatex: emgamera: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.


Sounds like the "no one can see you" part wasn't entirely accurate.

This is true, wasn't me, an acquaintance, but I guess the cop had something against him taking a wizz on a tree.


Half the country club elite would be sex offenders based on the number of golfers taking a leak in the rough if the police wanted to generate real case-load.
 
2013-10-11 10:45:15 AM

Mugato: So I've been to New Orleans on any given weekend, not just Mardi Gras and Savanna on St. Paddy's Day and adult naked girls on the street are plentiful. Do they get arrested and put on a list? Keep in mind, I am in no way advocating that they should be, I'm just asking.


Is a Spank Bank a list?
 
2013-10-11 10:46:00 AM
LasersHurt: ...and was buried october 7th. I know this might get downvoted, and I apologize for any errors or wrongdoings by posting this. This is my Boobies, and I felt this just needed to be said. So much is being said that is wrong and I just want the truth at there. If you have any questions, pm me."

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2013-10-11 10:46:41 AM

wittydh: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.

I assure you it would not have possibly ruined the rest of his life.  It would have definitely ruined the rest of his life.  The people of the Huntsville area are more of a senseless beast than Anonymous tries to portray that they are.


Sounds like somebody's on the sex offender list around here and is a little bitter about it.
 
2013-10-11 10:47:14 AM
This is the kind crap that condo associations with delusions of power would pull.

/ I am  so glad nanny state  BS like this wasn't prevalent  when I was in high school.
// Not old but, I'm working on it.
 
2013-10-11 10:47:46 AM

doglover: seek3r: SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.

Reminds of that cases in Penn where the kids "sexting" were both charged as adults for distributing child pron... of themselves... charged as adults..

/I do think Penn fixed that problem recently at least

Penn?


Pennsylvania, looks like they did finally change the law to make it a misdemeanor now instead of a felony for the minors involved in such cases
/hate PA in general
//the only state in the union where the state bird call is road construction
 
2013-10-11 10:48:40 AM
I shudder at all the newborn sex-offenders... Born naked like that.
 
2013-10-11 10:50:17 AM

papajoefong: Sounds like somebody's on the sex offender list around here and is a little bitter about it.


No.  I moved here from elsewhere and just call it how I see it.  If you don't like how it is around here, change it.
 
2013-10-11 10:52:25 AM

wittydh: papajoefong: Sounds like somebody's on the sex offender list around here and is a little bitter about it.

No.  I moved here from elsewhere and just call it how I see it.  If you don't like how it is around here, change it.


By the way, there's that senseless beast I talked about...
 
2013-10-11 10:53:57 AM

papatex: 15 year old who wanted attention and got attention no longer wanted attention.


This
 
2013-10-11 10:54:19 AM

Easy Reader: LasersHurt: ...and was buried october 7th. I know this might get downvoted, and I apologize for any errors or wrongdoings by posting this. This is my Boobies, and I felt this just needed to be said. So much is being said that is wrong and I just want the truth at there. If you have any questions, pm me."

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Filter changes "Boobies" to "Boobies." It was in the Copypasta I guess.
 
2013-10-11 10:54:31 AM
So you're telling me that a 15 year old with poor impulse control has.. poor impulse control?
 
2013-10-11 10:55:54 AM

NothingCanPossiblyeGoWrong: I shudder at all the newborn sex-offenders... Born naked like that.


They are a real threat. The first thing those lil'bastards do upon  birth is flash their micro junk at at least three people and scream bloody murder.
 
2013-10-11 10:56:08 AM

seek3r: PA


Ahh. There we go.

Fun Fact: There is no state called "Pennsylvania"
 
2013-10-11 10:58:43 AM

FnkyTwn: So you're telling me that a 15 year old with poor impulse control has.. poor impulse control?


If only he had the full forehead tattoo warning us ahead of time, maybe we could have stopped this.
 
2013-10-11 10:59:00 AM

LasersHurt: Filter changes "Boobies" to "Boobies." It was in the Copypasta I guess.


Oh, a filter thing.  Just looked it up.  Thank you, LH.
 
2013-10-11 10:59:58 AM

revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.


This, as evidenced by this:

LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.


Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?
 
2013-10-11 11:00:52 AM
Making everyone you can into second class citizens is a great way to get rid of those pesky civil rights.
 
2013-10-11 11:01:29 AM
Another life sacrificed before the zero-tolerance altar.
 
2013-10-11 11:01:49 AM
"Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously."

SOMEONE WAS NUDE!  This kind of thing cannot be tolerated.

Give the kid a suspension and call it a day you douche.  Literally nobody was harmed except the kid you cam after with all guns blazing apparently.
 
2013-10-11 11:02:06 AM
Regardless of how the school overreacted or the supposed worst case scenario repercussions, I do not understand why the kid would kill himself.
 
2013-10-11 11:02:48 AM
Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.
 
2013-10-11 11:04:05 AM
so the school can teach anatomy...

...but will hammer people into the ground if they put it on display?
 
2013-10-11 11:04:54 AM

susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.


The weird thing is that the kid was so freaked out about the possible (not fully understood?) consequences of his streaking that he embarked on a course of action with even sharper consequences.

I feel the School and the State have no liability here.
 
2013-10-11 11:07:02 AM

brytallica: Regardless of how the school overreacted or the supposed worst case scenario repercussions, I do not understand why the kid would kill himself.


You'd have to live in a terribly oppressive mentally challenged area that will actively seek to destroy your life and the lives of everyone you ever liked in the least to fully understand.  It has to be the sense and sensibilities of other people at all times and you're not allowed to have a like or opinion that's not reflecting JJJEEEEEEEESSSSSUUUSSS and the basic mindless thoughts of everyone else or you will suffer.

See the above comment where I stated it rather plainly about a life being over if they're on the sex offender list around here and someone called me a sex offender for it, even though there's no workable reason to believe that I'm on it.  If you don't tote the company line around here you can very easily lose your life or not have one worth living.

It's just the way it is.  From the mouthes of babes, and from the actions of idiots.
 
2013-10-11 11:07:09 AM
Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?


Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.
 
2013-10-11 11:07:15 AM

Wingchild: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

The weird thing is that the kid was so freaked out about the possible (not fully understood?) consequences of his streaking that he embarked on a course of action with even sharper consequences.

I feel the School and the State have no liability here.


Legally, no, but the father will sue for wrongful death, and the state will likely settle for a hundred thou to avoid a costly and emotional trial.
 
2013-10-11 11:07:17 AM
"...could have been put on the sex offenders list".
Just because the law (or some interpretation of it) says that is a possible outcome, doesn't mean it is an outcome that would realistically happen.
Also, he didn't kill himself because he was afraid of being on the sex offenders list.
But continue with your DURP and believing the Daily Mail, suckers.
 
2013-10-11 11:08:19 AM

skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused


I don't know if it's a good thing.  Anyone dangerous enough to be put on a list shouldn't have been let out of jail.
 
2013-10-11 11:08:28 AM

brytallica: Regardless of how the school overreacted or the supposed worst case scenario repercussions, I do not understand why the kid would kill himself.


While I agree that it was a complete over-reaction, if he really was threatened by the school administration with being charged as a sex-offender, he most likely felt like his life was essentially over. Couple that with the overall emotional instability and lack of perspective inherent to most 15 year olds, it's not hard to see how he ended up where he did.
 
2013-10-11 11:08:33 AM

Fafai: Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?

Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.


"Father" is dehumanising? Theaetetus is a Feminist?

Am I getting trolled?
 
2013-10-11 11:08:47 AM

SmellsLikePoo: Misconduc: This is how sad society has become, kid had no idea what the consequences were - now society killed him.

hell I brought a paintball marker on school campus and the resource officer who had some brains realized it was disassemed in a box and had no CO2 - she told me to park my car across the street and that was it.
Today they would of charged me blah blah expelled etc.

I'll hazard a guess that anyone over the age of 25 has a similar story.  I was in the honor society, a two-sport varsity athlete, and went on to an Ivy League... I can think of a half dozen things that I did in HS that, when viewed in current "zero tolerance" light would have gotten me expelled, and likely ruined my future prospects, and yet, somehow, I didn't end up a blight on society... Go figure!


You're on Fark, with a handle like that.  Pretty bleak...
 
2013-10-11 11:09:31 AM
:(

Maybe that biatch principal who called him a terrorist sex offender will fall into a gym mat and suffocate one day.

Is it even public nudity if a tube sock was over his junk?
 
2013-10-11 11:10:04 AM

wittydh: brytallica: Regardless of how the school overreacted or the supposed worst case scenario repercussions, I do not understand why the kid would kill himself.

You'd have to live in a terribly oppressive mentally challenged area that will actively seek to destroy your life and the lives of everyone you ever liked in the least to fully understand.  It has to be the sense and sensibilities of other people at all times and you're not allowed to have a like or opinion that's not reflecting JJJEEEEEEEESSSSSUUUSSS and the basic mindless thoughts of everyone else or you will suffer.

See the above comment where I stated it rather plainly about a life being over if they're on the sex offender list around here and someone called me a sex offender for it, even though there's no workable reason to believe that I'm on it.  If you don't tote the company line around here you can very easily lose your life or not have one worth living.

It's just the way it is.  From the mouthes of babes, and from the actions of idiots.


Wow!  You really hate Alabama and the deep south.  Why do you live there and when are you going to get out?  Just curious...
 
2013-10-11 11:10:45 AM

susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.


There's a reason we don't let 15 year olds drive. Or vote. Or serve. Or drink.
 
2013-10-11 11:10:54 AM

LasersHurt: Fafai: Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?

Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.

"Father" is dehumanising?


Maybe he meant my use of "afather" rather than "his father"? That's all I can guess.  But if I did say "his", then the rest of the sentence wouldn't be grammatically correct.

Theaetetus is a Feminist?

Am I getting trolled?


Yes, and probably.
 
2013-10-11 11:13:21 AM
With all the hype, has there ever actually been any minor put on a sex offender registry for streaking?
 
2013-10-11 11:14:17 AM
1) Kid overreacted. It would have been thrown out in court IF it made it that far. Sad that a young life was lost over an idle threat by the administration

2)Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul if a streaked can end up on there. I thought it was stupid when I added pantyraiders to the list...this goes beyond that.
 
2013-10-11 11:15:37 AM

DrewCurtisJr: With all the hype, has there ever actually been any minor put on a sex offender registry for streaking?


Nope.
And nothing in the article says "administration threatens him with sex offender registry" like the lying Fark headline states.
It's like saying the maximum penalty for stealing is years of prison time, and saying "child COULD face prison time for stealing a candy bar!!"
 
2013-10-11 11:15:39 AM

revman64: Wow!  You really hate Alabama and the deep south.  Why do you live there and when are you going to get out?  Just curious...


Huntsville isn't the deep south.  It's the mid south.  Also, I don't hate Alabama.  I don't know most of Alabama.  I just know this area.  I don't hate the deep south because I've never been there.

Why do I live here?  I was transferred in to this location by my career because the person who was doing it was inept at their job.  I'll be getting out as soon as I can, which can't be soon enough.  There's only so many times a day I can stand hearing some slobbering fat person say that collidj iddint werent not makes me guuder den dem, then I fire them and replace them with another person from out of the area.

In my line of work you do not trust the job to a person from the Huntsville area as has been repetitively shown by firing the local and hiring someone from out of the area.  If the Huntsville people do not like it, they can improve their own lives instead of demand a lowering of capacity and quality of others.

For the record, yes, I did catch the "if you don't like it, leave!" tone you gave and laugh myself silly for it.  If you don't like it that I'm here, make sure you're a decent enough person that others don't have to come and fix your life for you.
 
2013-10-11 11:16:39 AM

hailin: Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul


No.

It needs destroyed right next to the war on drugs.
 
2013-10-11 11:16:43 AM

LasersHurt: Fafai: Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?

Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.

"Father" is dehumanising? Theaetetus is a Feminist?

Am I getting trolled?


Don't want to start a whole thing so I won't say any more after this but not trolling, just pointing out to the many fellow farkers who can't stand Theaetetus' one-sided crap that it's not at all surprising he'd take a story about a boy shamed to the point of death about his body and make it even more anti-male.

"A father" plays up the disposability of the parental status and underlines the contempt, as opposed to his father/the father.
 
2013-10-11 11:16:45 AM
This is what comes of letting Puritan idealists run a country. Seriously, if these people feel that displaying the naked human body needs to be punished, they need to examine their own filthy minds.
    
Wingchild  2013-10-11 11:04:54 AM
The weird thing is that the kid was so freaked out about the possible (not fully understood?) consequences of his streaking that he embarked on a course of action with even sharper consequences.

I feel the School and the State have no liability here.


Really? The same school and state that should understand that children and teens don't have the same level of comprehension or reaction to circumstances that an adult would? For not understanding that a kid facing the same level of punishment as a child molester might react in ways they couldn't predict?

This is what kids do. They do stupid stuff and make mistakes. This is why we supervise them and we certainly don't hold them to same level of accountability as adults. When they screw up, they deserve a chance to understand what they've done and make it right. We used to leave this up to parents. Now we get the law involved for reasons I do not understand except for in cases of extreme parental neglect.

Treating him like a criminal for a harmless prank should be considered child abuse at best and cruel and unusual punishment at worse - especially as they caused him so much anguish that he took his own life. The adults involved should be censured harshly, if not fired.
 
2013-10-11 11:17:13 AM

Theaetetus: LasersHurt: Fafai: Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?

Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.

"Father" is dehumanising?

Maybe he meant my use of "afather" rather than "his father"? That's all I can guess.  But if I did say "his", then the rest of the sentence wouldn't be grammatically correct.

Theaetetus is a Feminist?

Am I getting trolled?

Yes, and probably.


That part is fine and sensible, I just didn't know where he had gleaned it from your post.
 
2013-10-11 11:18:06 AM

hailin: 1) Kid overreacted. It would have been thrown out in court IF it made it that far. Sad that a young life was lost over an idle threat by the administration


He would have killed himself eventually, this incident was not major enough to make the difference.  He obviously had other problems.

2)Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul if a streaked can end up on there. I thought it was stupid when I added pantyraiders to the list...this goes beyond that.

A streaker can not end up there.  Where did you read that they could?
 
2013-10-11 11:18:19 AM

Fafai: "A father" plays up the disposability of the parental status and underlines the contempt, as opposed to his father/the father.


So you're butthurt and reading into things because you've got an axe to grind. Got it.
 
2013-10-11 11:18:49 AM

LasersHurt: Theaetetus: LasersHurt: Fafai: Theaetetus:
LasersHurt: After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage.

Maybe getting yelled at at home by a father who needs a 20 minute cool-down period afterwards was not unusual?

Look at the feminist finding a way to immediately blame the father. Nice dehumanizing language there, too.

"Father" is dehumanising?

Maybe he meant my use of "afather" rather than "his father"? That's all I can guess.  But if I did say "his", then the rest of the sentence wouldn't be grammatically correct.

Theaetetus is a Feminist?

Am I getting trolled?

Yes, and probably.

That part is fine and sensible, I just didn't know where he had gleaned it from your post.


Oh, he's one of those trolls who follows me from thread to thread. Pay no mind.
 
2013-10-11 11:20:02 AM
My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.
 
2013-10-11 11:21:47 AM

doglover: hailin: Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul

No.

It needs destroyed right next to the war on drugs.


This times a gazillion. It should never have existed in the first place.
 
2013-10-11 11:22:09 AM

wittydh: papajoefong: Sounds like somebody's on the sex offender list around here and is a little bitter about it.

No.  I moved here from elsewhere and just call it how I see it.  If you don't like how it is around here, change it.


I moved here from somewhere else too.  I also like to call it how I see it.  The difference between you and I is that (after having lived up North and out West), I think Huntsville is a relatively nice area to live.  You're welcome to your opinion of the area, although you're coming off as unhappy and/or bitter.  Also, I get the impression you're using "senseless beasts" as a proxy for "people you don't like or disagree with you."

Just so we're clear, I think the school administration over-reached and should burn for it.
 
2013-10-11 11:22:19 AM

Misconduc: This is how sad society has become, kid had no idea what the consequences were - now society killed him.

hell I brought a paintball marker on school campus and the resource officer who had some brains realized it was disassemed in a box and had no CO2 - she told me to park my car across the street and that was it.
Today they would of charged me blah blah expelled etc.



you were carrying it in the box, or were you searched in your car?
 
2013-10-11 11:23:20 AM

Ellis D Trails: My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.


If he was in law school, then he was probably at least 22 at the time. What was he doing messing around with a high school kid?
 
2013-10-11 11:24:23 AM
What happened to you, America? You used to be cool.
 
2013-10-11 11:24:48 AM
hailin:

2)Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul if a streaked can end up on there. I thought it was stupid when I added pantyraiders to the list...this goes beyond that.
 
2013-10-11 11:24:56 AM
He's old enough to realize that people have been put on the list for lesser crimes, right?

Maybe take a little more time to learn things and spend a little bit less time focusing on the after school games.
 
2013-10-11 11:26:00 AM

SuperNinjaToad: because KP was trying to imply that this were the works of evil christians when it's actually the liberals who were largely responsible for the assinine over regulated protect my bubblewrap kid  statues.


Many Christians are liberals.  Sounding pretty defensive there, bud.
 
2013-10-11 11:26:07 AM

wittydh: revman64: Wow!  You really hate Alabama and the deep south.  Why do you live there and when are you going to get out?  Just curious...

Huntsville isn't the deep south.  It's the mid south.  Also, I don't hate Alabama.  I don't know most of Alabama.  I just know this area.  I don't hate the deep south because I've never been there.

Why do I live here?  I was transferred in to this location by my career because the person who was doing it was inept at their job.  I'll be getting out as soon as I can, which can't be soon enough.  There's only so many times a day I can stand hearing some slobbering fat person say that collidj iddint werent not makes me guuder den dem, then I fire them and replace them with another person from out of the area.

In my line of work you do not trust the job to a person from the Huntsville area as has been repetitively shown by firing the local and hiring someone from out of the area.  If the Huntsville people do not like it, they can improve their own lives instead of demand a lowering of capacity and quality of others.

For the record, yes, I did catch the "if you don't like it, leave!" tone you gave and laugh myself silly for it.  If you don't like it that I'm here, make sure you're a decent enough person that others don't have to come and fix your life for you.


I thought all Alabama was considered deep south, forgive my ignorance.  Also, I wasn't giving you the "if" part, just know that I've lived in places I disliked because work sent me there and like your intent, got out as soon as I could.  There's good and bad in every city, but it seems the Huntsville area is not your cup of tea and life is too short to spend it somewhere you despise.
 
2013-10-11 11:27:32 AM

webron: Would you still blame him?


The actions didn't come out of nowhere, so...
 
2013-10-11 11:28:56 AM
This will get worse.  The sex offender monies are the last place orgs can go for funds once the war on drugs is gone.

It is offensive and it destroys lives.  The US has as many people on the sex offender registries as there are people on the TSA's scary 'terrorist non-fly watch list'.  The registry size in the near future will encompass more individuals than the US military.
 
2013-10-11 11:29:25 AM

Theaetetus: Wingchild: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

The weird thing is that the kid was so freaked out about the possible (not fully understood?) consequences of his streaking that he embarked on a course of action with even sharper consequences.

I feel the School and the State have no liability here.

Legally, no, but the father will sue for wrongful death, and the state will likely settle for a hundred thou to avoid a costly and emotional trial.


The state should countersue. The kid did die immediately following a fight with the dad, after all.
 
2013-10-11 11:29:36 AM
Oh wow, there are consequences for your actions...who woulda' thunk?
 
2013-10-11 11:30:23 AM
Sounds like he was a victim of bullying... by the school administration. Isn't there some kind of zero tolerance for bullying in schools?
 
2013-10-11 11:30:33 AM

wittydh: brytallica: Regardless of how the school overreacted or the supposed worst case scenario repercussions, I do not understand why the kid would kill himself.

You'd have to live in a terribly oppressive mentally challenged area that will actively seek to destroy your life and the lives of everyone you ever liked in the least to fully understand.  It has to be the sense and sensibilities of other people at all times and you're not allowed to have a like or opinion that's not reflecting JJJEEEEEEEESSSSSUUUSSS and the basic mindless thoughts of everyone else or you will suffer.

See the above comment where I stated it rather plainly about a life being over if they're on the sex offender list around here and someone called me a sex offender for it, even though there's no workable reason to believe that I'm on it.  If you don't tote the company line around here you can very easily lose your life or not have one worth living.

It's just the way it is.  From the mouthes of babes, and from the actions of idiots.


Wow, dude, it was a joke.  You really need to lighten up.  That much hate isn't good for you.
 
2013-10-11 11:32:51 AM
See how our countries love of draconian law and fear of human sexuality has saved the chirrens?
 
2013-10-11 11:33:24 AM

NothingCanPossiblyeGoWrong: I shudder at all the newborn sex-offenders... Born naked like that.


In utero surgery is a thing now. We could dress them.
 
2013-10-11 11:33:52 AM

Begoggle: hailin: 1) Kid overreacted. It would have been thrown out in court IF it made it that far. Sad that a young life was lost over an idle threat by the administration

He would have killed himself eventually, this incident was not major enough to make the difference.  He obviously had other problems.

2)Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul if a streaked can end up on there. I thought it was stupid when I added pantyraiders to the list...this goes beyond that.

A streaker can not end up there.  Where did you read that they could?


Do you have any actual evidence to support your rather bold claim?
 
2013-10-11 11:34:05 AM

LasersHurt: The following monday they had a meeting with our head principal and two assistant principals(we have a total of 5 assistant principals).


Five assistant principals?  Really?  My high school had something like 4000 students, we had one assistant.  When did school administrations get so bloated?  And wouldn't it be better to fire three of those and hire teachers instead?

/In this case, sounds like three positions should be opening up soon.
 
2013-10-11 11:35:49 AM
Two words to sum up this entire fiasco:

Penis Envy
 
2013-10-11 11:35:58 AM

revman64: Why do I live here? I was transferred in to this location by my career because the person who was doing it was inept at their job. I'll be getting out as soon as I can, which can't be soon enough. There's only so many times a day I can stand hearing some slobbering fat person say that collidj iddint werent not makes me guuder den dem, then I fire them and replace them with another person from out of the area.


as one originally from Alabama..... Alabama _IS_ part of the deep south.  A transplant like wittydh would never understand that concept.

and yes, Alabama has some farked up rules in their school systems and idiots running the show.
 
2013-10-11 11:38:19 AM

suthrnrunt: revman64: Why do I live here? I was transferred in to this location by my career because the person who was doing it was inept at their job. I'll be getting out as soon as I can, which can't be soon enough. There's only so many times a day I can stand hearing some slobbering fat person say that collidj iddint werent not makes me guuder den dem, then I fire them and replace them with another person from out of the area.

as one originally from Alabama..... Alabama _IS_ part of the deep south.  A transplant like wittydh would never understand that concept.

and yes, Alabama has some farked up rules in their school systems and idiots running the show.


Just to be clear, that's not my quote up there...
 
2013-10-11 11:39:45 AM

papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.


tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it
 
2013-10-11 11:40:27 AM
Obviously this is not an act which should have death as a possible punishment, but it does bring up an important issue to explain to children (and adults, for that matter) in the modern world;  everything you do, no matter your age, legal culpability, or experience, will be tracked and likely recorded, and available to both public and state likely forever, and you will have to deal with the fallout of that for the rest of your life.

It's like that old threat of a 'permanent record', the internet now provides one with audio and video to boot, and it never forgets, and it will follow you forever.  Since it's there forever, age is immaterial, as it will eventually be applied to the 20, 30, and beyond year old you.

I'm not saying it ~should~ be that way, or that you ~should~ forever be stuck with the consequences of youthful indiscretions, but that looks like the world we're going to be living in, so it's probably a good idea that even young kids be made aware of it.  In public - and in fact, any time around someone with a camera phone - act as if someone was recording you, and every employer, the police, each potential hookup or mate, every one of your friends and family, and your (potential) children will see it.  Probably in HD, with facebook name annotations in case you're in a mask or wearing a helmet and you can't easily be identified (see recent motorcycle rampage in NY).
 
2013-10-11 11:41:14 AM

revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...


To a 15-year-old, the prospect of being put on the sex offenders list pretty much meant the end of his life. Once you are on that list, you can't have a career, nor get scholarships to attend college, nor have a relationship, nor go out in public without some nut-job parent calling the cops on you.

Once you are on the list, you have to spend the rest of your life locked away from the rest of the world. And no, I don't mean jail. A house can be a prison when the outside world rejects your very existence.

/Not a sex offender
//just physically deformed, which is almost as bad
 
2013-10-11 11:43:56 AM
Nudty and sex are not the same thing.
 
2013-10-11 11:44:52 AM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


God Warriors
 
2013-10-11 11:45:06 AM
 

revman64: suthrnrunt: revman64: Why do I live here? I was transferred in to this location by my career because the person who was doing it was inept at their job. I'll be getting out as soon as I can, which can't be soon enough. There's only so many times a day I can stand hearing some slobbering fat person say that collidj iddint werent not makes me guuder den dem, then I fire them and replace them with another person from out of the area.

as one originally from Alabama..... Alabama _IS_ part of the deep south.  A transplant like wittydh would never understand that concept.

and yes, Alabama has some farked up rules in their school systems and idiots running the show.

Just to be clear, that's not my quote up there...


guess you didn't actually bother reading.

and i don't really care if Fark didn't pull everything from that thread.
 
2013-10-11 11:47:36 AM

Slaves2Darkness: Good. One more weakling dead.


I am sure you think you come across like some sort of Internet tough guy, but all I see is a little child begging for attention. I am not shocked or angry, I just pity the empty life you must lead to make such a pointless comment.
 
2013-10-11 11:48:48 AM

Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it


http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us0907webwcover.pdf

The only reason I am considered a sex offender is because I committed 
an offense that triggers registration. In any other context, my crime 
 would never be considered a sex offense, and I would not be 
considered a threat to society. 
-Trent B., a Pennsylvania registrant convicted of streaking

At least 13 states require registration for public urination; of those, two 
limit registration to those who committed the act in view of a minor.


But, of course, that is anecdotal. I can't find any actual news stories.
 
2013-10-11 11:48:55 AM
I see the principal had no problem talking to news outlets about an underage student's disciplinary status, but now doesn't want to be in the spotlight.  I have no doubt the kid expected to be punished for his actions, but not publicly berated and threatened by the principal.
 
2013-10-11 11:49:18 AM

Begoggle: hailin: 1) Kid overreacted. It would have been thrown out in court IF it made it that far. Sad that a young life was lost over an idle threat by the administration

He would have killed himself eventually, this incident was not major enough to make the difference.  He obviously had other problems.

2)Our sex offenders registry needs a complete overhaul if a streaked can end up on there. I thought it was stupid when I added pantyraiders to the list...this goes beyond that.

A streaker can not end up there.  Where did you read that they could?


Maybe it is a per state thing. We have had streakers and pantyraiders end up on our sexual offenders registry, though usually for streakers it is listed as public exposure, but raiders are listed as other;pantyraiding. It makes for some lawls reading through the registry that is for sure.

The also list incest as a sexual offense even if the parties involved were above 18 and consensual (if caught it is still a crime). I'm convinced out state registry is just a giant shame list instead of actually protecting people.
 
2013-10-11 11:50:17 AM
 Zero tolerance policies were created to keep monsters like this off the street and out of our society. Oh and to help Republicans politically, while filling up corporate prisons. Hopefully someone will realize they didn't think their cunning plan all the way through although it's too late for this kid.
 
2013-10-11 11:53:53 AM

Loreweaver: To a 15-year-old, the prospect of being put on the sex offenders list pretty much meant the end of his life. Once you are on that list, you can't have a career, nor get scholarships to attend college, nor have a relationship, nor go out in public without some nut-job parent calling the cops on you.

Once you are on the list, you have to spend the rest of your life locked away from the rest of the world. And no, I don't mean jail. A house can be a prison when the outside world rejects your very existence.



To add:

It is completely legal to discriminate in housing.  Depending on circumstances you may be homeless for the rest of your life.

It is completely legal to discriminate in working.  Depending on circumstances you may have no income for the rest of your life.

In some states you get a special DL with the scarlet letter right across it.  Pay for something with a credit card and they need ID?  Congratulations, the clerk now hates you and the store can ban you.

In some locals you may not be within x distance of schools, public parks, etc...  ever.  Not going there, just be within that radius (even driving by as going across town).  Extrapolated from this in many cities, you are not allowed in the city limits for the rest of your life.

------

It is offensive.  It is not rule of law.  It is the last universal dog that the CJ system and Vengeance Based Americans can kick.

/This does not even get into the fact that there is are federal, state, and municipal lists and laws that reference and  co-opt each other so that at any time it can be as difficult to understand what your actual rules on the registry are and thus making it much more likely for you to be thrown back in the can.
 
2013-10-11 11:54:34 AM

Heron: slayer199: Streaking has gone from a relatively harmless and occasionally amusing prank to a serious crime.  FTA::"Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously."  Well, I think the kid treated it seriously.  Well done administration.   You've done an excellent job putting fear into anyone that would consider doing this heinous crime again,  Farking assholes. DIAF Mr. Campbell along with the rest of your self-righteous asshole administration.

Hell, at our homecoming game (and parade) we had guys that mooned the opposing team's stands one football season.  Yes, they were suspended, but nobody was talking about citing them for indecent exposure and sex crimes.

One of the many problems here is how school admins have criminalized discipline. There used to be room for kids doing stupid stuff in the US, now school administrations will sick the cops on you for stepping out of line. My senior high school year, our admin held a senior's only assembly where they basically said "if there is a senior prank, we won't graduate any of you, and we will bring charges against anyone we can pin it on". I doubt they were serious, but it just goes to show that these days, rather than there being any space for kids being kids, School administrators choose to run things on fear and the threat of criminal charges.


Many "senior pranks" amount to simple vandalism, sometimes in extreme amounts.  Do you know how much it costs to replace every lock at a high school because somebody put glue in them as a "senior prank"?  Of course criminal charges should be brought in that sort of situation.

Now, that's a different issue than the sex offender registry.  If somebody is such a threat to the public, then the punishment for the crime should be life in prison.  If not, branding a scarlet A on them is not helpful.  In any case, it appears that the actual cops weren't going to actually put this guy on the sex offender list, just that the principal was ranting about doing such.
 
2013-10-11 11:55:28 AM
A guy who lives on my street is on the sex offender registry for dating (and I assume, farking) a 14 year old when he was 18. They'd dated for awhile, but apparently her parents didn't know that, caught them, bam, sex offender.

Of course, now the dumbass keeps himself in trouble (I think he had originally had a 10 year registration sentence) because he keeps failing to re-register when he moves. He sells pills, so I'm sure he doesn't like to alert the police to his whereabouts.

Fark this particular guy, but I'm sure he's not the only one this kinda crap happens to.
 
2013-10-11 11:57:32 AM
cman [TotalFark]
2013-10-11 04:56:52 AM


DrPainMD: Kittypie070: OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.

Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.

What does that have to do with what she said?

Good lord, your blinders are really that big?

//// sad you iq doesn't take after them.
 
2013-10-11 11:58:21 AM

Easy Reader: LasersHurt: ...and was buried october 7th. I know this might get downvoted, and I apologize for any errors or wrongdoings by posting this. This is my Boobies, and I felt this just needed to be said. So much is being said that is wrong and I just want the truth at there. If you have any questions, pm me."

???


The Reddit post said "first" and then "post" instead of "Boobies", but on Fark, if you put the word "first" and then the word "post" in a row, it turns it into "Boobies".
 
2013-10-11 11:58:55 AM
filmdope.com

And this WILL go down on your permanent record!!
 
2013-10-11 12:01:20 PM
Two counts of stupid.

This kid was going to be nothing but problems. Glad he solved one for us himself.
 
2013-10-11 12:03:26 PM
If something as petty as peeing in an alley or streaking in public can land someone on the sex offenders list, the list becomes meaningless to its original intent and in time will be dismissed as no longer useful.

Sad story and a complete overreach from the school.  Frankly, this could happen just about anywhere a person of authority plants a seed like this in a family's mind.  Idle threats from the school spiraled and now a family's life in ruined and a boy is dead.  Shameful.
 
2013-10-11 12:03:45 PM

Mugato


Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore?
No you can't. That would unravel the thought crime laws the democrats spend the late 80's and 90's pushing for. It's not what you said, it's if someone got offended that counts.

Think that's an exaggeration? Go look at HR documentation on sensitivity training.
 
2013-10-11 12:07:25 PM
SuperNinjaToad

because KP was trying to imply that this were the works of evil christians when it's actually the liberals who were largely responsible for the assinine over regulated protect my bubblewrap kid statues.
You're arguing with bigots about what a bigot said. You sir will not win.
 
2013-10-11 12:09:46 PM
Maybe he did it because girls were making fun of his lap pinky.
 
2013-10-11 12:10:00 PM
hailin:
Maybe it is a per state thing. We have had streakers and pantyraiders end up on our sexual offenders registry, though usually for streakers it is listed as public exposure, but raiders are listed as other;pantyraiding. It makes for some lawls reading through the registry that is for sure.

I'm calling shenanipants. According to your state, pantyraids are not registrable offenses.
 
2013-10-11 12:10:26 PM
See that's farked up. I'm pissed at the kid. Not because he committed suicide, but because he didn't kill every single person responsible for ruining his life first.

I mean, you get wrongly put on the sex offenders registry, yeah, I get suicide. But I'll be damned if the person who put me there isn't going to die in...a pretty horrible way first.
 
2013-10-11 12:11:20 PM
Just put us all on the Sex Offender list already. Seems to be where there going.
 
2013-10-11 12:11:34 PM
This farking stupid ass place. The "sex" laws are ridiculous. And in this era of instant database background search every time you want to take a step forward in your life, yeah, you're pretty much screwed.

Most will not look at your individual case. There are huge pools of applicants (college, employment, etc) and you will be tossed like bad Chinese food as soon as your, ha, "sex offender" status hits the screen.

People "with a past" used to just go to Alaska to start fresh. Now, there is nowhere to hide. You slap a kid with an undeserved sex offender or felon and you may as well have banished him or her from society.
 
2013-10-11 12:12:23 PM

stuffy: Just put us all on the Sex Offender list already. Seems to be where there going.


1.bp.blogspot.com
"I am Sexoffendercus!"
 
2013-10-11 12:13:02 PM
I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out. 

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one). 

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.
 
2013-10-11 12:15:21 PM

Wellon Dowd: Zero tolerance. It's not just a bad idea; it's a bad law.


Zero tolerance usually goes hand in hand with zero intelligence.

I think the reaction of the school administration to the prank, and to the suicide provides a perfect example of this.
 
2013-10-11 12:17:21 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out.

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one).

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-11 12:17:58 PM

skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.


I honestly don't know if the sex offender registery ever WAS a good thing. I mean, bad people will always be around. Does it make you safe to know about the one rapist two blocks away if there are three on your block that just happened to have never been caught and therefore are not on the registry? Does ANY aspect of the registry really affect how you protect yourself or tell your kids to protect themselves? I mean, what percentage of "don't get in a car with a stranger" type lessons are reduced due to the existence of the registry? It does no actual good. At best it provides a false sense of security and at worst it criminalizes people like the kid in this article.

I think it was never a good idea, it was only an idea that was easy for craven politicians to sell to a lazy electorate.
 
2013-10-11 12:21:16 PM
The law MUST be upheld.  Ignorance of the law is NO excuse.  Zero tolerance.
 
2013-10-11 12:25:37 PM

gshepnyc: skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.

I honestly don't know if the sex offender registery ever WAS a good thing. I mean, bad people will always be around. Does it make you safe to know about the one rapist two blocks away if there are three on your block that just happened to have never been caught and therefore are not on the registry? Does ANY aspect of the registry really affect how you protect yourself or tell your kids to protect themselves? I mean, what percentage of "don't get in a car with a stranger" type lessons are reduced due to the existence of the registry? It does no actual good. At best it provides a false sense of security and at worst it criminalizes people like the kid in this article.

I think it was never a good idea, it was only an idea that was easy for craven politicians to sell to a lazy electorate.



Correct.  Lotta sprained elbows patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

Hey, check out Florida!

http://www.vice.com/read/sex-offenders-in-florida-now-have-warning-s ig ns-outside-their-homes

http://flaglerlive.com/55281/sex-offender-registries/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colo ny
 
2013-10-11 12:25:56 PM
Follow the modern meme:

Someone commits suicide, someone goes to jail.

Just as if bullies drove the kid to suicide, charge the administrators with manslaughter.
 
2013-10-11 12:29:27 PM
well, that is one less attention whore.One down, a Brazillion to go...
 
2013-10-11 12:29:48 PM
They would have had to jail a LOT of college kids during the 70s if this current attitude was in effect.
 
2013-10-11 12:31:40 PM

OnlyM3: Mugato


Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore?No you can't. That would unravel the thought crime laws the democrats spend the late 80's and 90's pushing for. It's not what you said, it's if someone got offended that counts.

Think that's an exaggeration? Go look at HR documentation on sensitivity training.


Right, it's a democrat/republican partisan thing. Take a look at what happened to this country under the Republican regime after 9/11 and seriously contend that it's the Democrats who are the assholes.
 
2013-10-11 12:40:42 PM

Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it


I can't prove it. A friend of mine had this happen to him. He was literally in the car on the way to the station when the cop got a call and had to let him go. I wouldn't believe a word of this if it didn't come out of this particular mans mouth.
 
2013-10-11 12:45:31 PM

SpectroBoy: When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?


When it happened in the south.
 
2013-10-11 12:52:15 PM

Richard Flaccid: SpectroBoy: When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?

When it happened in the south.


theatheistconservative.com
 
2013-10-11 12:57:34 PM
While I don't condone public nudity, Zero Tolerance laws (like the three strikes laws) make it so that people residing on the case have no discretion.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I had a 17 year-old friend, who on a dare stripped and ran around the block naked at night. Harmless, impulsive and really naive kid.
To think of the possibility that instead of getting 100 hours of community service instead of a ruined life on the sex-offender registry makes me sad.
 
2013-10-11 12:59:00 PM
AAAAaaaaaaaannnnnddd.....the mascot gets a pass..... (fur=/= clothes)
 
2013-10-11 12:59:55 PM

LasersHurt: From Reddit:

"


I'm sure there was a whole bunch of "YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE!" coming from dad and the administration.

Really sad.
 
2013-10-11 01:01:17 PM

IRQ12: LasersHurt: From Reddit:

"

I'm sure there was a whole bunch of "YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE!" coming from dad and the administration.

Really sad.


Yeah. Too many people here are putting this 100% on the kid, ignoring that the Adults around him almost certainly went above and beyond an appropriate reaction. Ultimately he did what he did, but 15 year old boys are not known for their mature stability.
 
2013-10-11 01:06:09 PM

Witness99: You slap a kid with an undeserved sex offender or felon and you may as well have banished him or her from society.


This. Anyone trying to deny the school's culpability in this doesn't seem to grasp the root of the problem. Yes, the kid probably shouldn't have streaked. He definitely shouldn't have killed himself over merely being threatened. Suicide was a rash, premature "you can't fire me I quit," type of desperate response. It was needless to be sure.

But the school really shouldn't have threatened to ruin a kid's life for pulling a prank that harmed no one. Not to mention the evil involved in abusing something as serious as the sex offender registry simply to punish insolence, which, as others have said, would only dilute the purpose of having such a list in the first place. No doubt about it, the school administration's over-zealotry in making sure the little punks are sorry is the real problem here.
 
2013-10-11 01:22:29 PM
Back in the 70's we had streakers all of the time. Usually, if caught, the most they were charged with was public indecency and slapped with a small fine.

Today, they face a list of charges, the worst dealing with sex offender laws, which alone can ruin their lives forever. If charged with a sexual offense, the kid gets smeared in the papers, the national news, gets kicked out of Boy Scouts, has to go before a judge and get raked over the coals, his family gets to spend an extraordinary amount of cash for a lawyer, chances are he'd be evaluated by a shrink or two, kicked out of school and can kiss any future plans of a good job good-bye.

He'd have been better off getting arrested for possession of drugs.

In my time, Principals knew that kids were kids. They took each case on its merits alone and sometimes, the punishment consisted of detention, a 'good talking to', parents informed and that was it. They didn't have 'Zero Tolerance' government mandates rearing over their heads like a blood thirsty monster, ready to snatch funds away if their rules were not followed to the letter with no room for common sense.

No congressman will even suggest rewriting these laws to put some intelligence in them. None will even suggest that zero tolerance be stopped. Hastily and poorly constructed sex offender laws face the same fate.

And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.

I actually feel sorry for kids in school today. If they even fart wrong, out come the lawyers, the cops and the courts. Kids will make mistakes and challenge the norm -- which is what kids do as they grow up. Our leaders seem to have forgotten about that.

Current parents seem reluctant to challenge the Zero Tolerance policies also, even though their kids will be the most affected.
 
2013-10-11 01:34:36 PM
Why don't we have a violent offenders list? I'd like to know if the guy moving in next door has a history of assault and battery, or could fly off the handle at the drop of a hat.
 
2013-10-11 01:39:54 PM
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2013-10-11 01:40:47 PM
Serious question: If he is a minor, wouldn't he be able to petition the court to have his records sealed and expunged on his 18th birthday? How does that work with the sex offender registry, would they be required to seal his records too??
 
2013-10-11 01:42:50 PM
 
2013-10-11 01:43:50 PM

Rik01: And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.


[Citation needed]
... particularly since I think you're referring to this, which notes "Legally, there's no such thing as sexual assault for a six year-old in California."
 
2013-10-11 01:53:16 PM

Ellis D Trails: My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.


I'll never forget the story I read (on Fark) about the young guy that committed suicide after being sent to prison for pot possession. He had a small amount, personal use, not a dealer. He was 18 and had a college scholarship, whole life ahead of him. He got busted and then overly punished by a judge who wanted to make an example of him (I think it was one or two years in prison). He lost his scholarship and got repeatedly butt raped in prison. Killed himself shortly after, due to the trauma of the rape and how much he lost.

And to think, pot will soon be legal everywhere (floodgates are open). IMHO, pot is less harmful, in many ways, than alcohol. A sad story, and this one reminds me of it .
 
2013-10-11 01:56:14 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


I remember the streaking "streak" (sorry) in the 70s....I was in junior high school, would sometimes see or hear about it. I would laugh, my parents would laugh, life went on.
 
2013-10-11 01:58:11 PM

papatex: Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it

I can't prove it. A friend of mine had this happen to him. He was literally in the car on the way to the station when the cop got a call and had to let him go. I wouldn't believe a word of this if it didn't come out of this particular mans mouth.


Sounds like he was never even charged, how did he get on the sex offender list?
 
2013-10-11 01:59:56 PM
"I don't want to live in this country anymore."

What a farking disgrace.

Check this blog out: "COTWA: Community of the wrongly accused".

http://www.cotwa.info/2013/10/the-death-of-christian-adamek-and-zero .h tml
 
2013-10-11 02:14:19 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


This.
 
2013-10-11 02:20:02 PM
I don't mean to get all "Alex Jones" here, cause I really don't like the guy...but what the hell is going on with this social conditioning? Natural things we did in the seventies and eighties are now suicide worthy events. We read constantly about snowflakes and helicopter parents and young people unprepared for the workforce.

This environment is breeding the balls out of people (men and women, figuratively speaking). Think about that. Where is the thick skin? Where is the common sense on the part of officials? Where is the flexibility? I don't like this at all. Well, back to my inflexible corporate world now.
 
2013-10-11 02:20:51 PM

Evil Mackerel: They are a real threat.


More than you can imagine, given that they reside in God fearing country.

images9.fotki.com
 
2013-10-11 02:23:54 PM

Theaetetus: Ellis D Trails: My Grand Nephew, was threatened in College with the sex offender because of a Sexting incident....one pic of a girl ... 17 years old.....He was going to Law School....and when threatened with the registry, He cut his own throat and bled out in a Railroad car.
Yeah that's justice for ya.

If he was in law school, then he was probably at least 22 at the time. What was he doing messing around with a high school kid?


Who said it was a high school girl?  she could have been a student at the University.
 
2013-10-11 02:41:54 PM

colinspooky: If this story is spot on, it makes me so angry that I .. oh fark it. These people are not worth it. It was a prank, nothing more. Just some stupid fun. In the past surely he would have been told off, told not to do it again and write 100 lines.
End of. Now?  Fark me I am livid. Nudity is not bad. No one will be damaged from seeing him. If it happened at every single match in every single town, pretty soon people would bore of it. How can being naked be offensive. Those who interpret the will of the sky wizard have a lot to answer for. Fark the lot of them.


You were going great until you decided to mock God.  Regulation Nation isn't God's fault, it's the result of the great disease of political correctness.  What are the roots of political correctness?  Cultural Marxism.  I think you need to understand your liberal heritage and the fact that it is not based in the hippie movement of free love, but in the tyrannical hate or totalitarianism. Most liberals are just useful idiots for that cause and do not have any idea where their thoughts originated.
 
2013-10-11 03:12:39 PM
The sex offender registry is grossly misused. It should be reserved for child molesters and actual rapist. Not streakers and 18 year old's consensually sleeping with their 17 year old boy/girlfriends.
 
2013-10-11 03:22:22 PM

vudukungfu: We had streakers at football games back in the 70s.
No body's life was ruined.
We all laughed and had a good time.

WTF happened to this country?


Hell. I was one of them.
 
2013-10-11 03:25:01 PM

SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.


Except it's not spot on.  It's not even remotely accurate to the real world.

In the vast majority of states, 15 yo can have sex with other 15yo and 14yo and 16yo and in some states, 17yo too.

Not only is he old enough to have sex, he's old enough to be a sexual predator.  (not that he was, but it's happened before)
 
2013-10-11 03:27:20 PM
DrPainMD:
Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US. It went federal in 1994, under the liberal Democrats and Bill Clinton, as part of the assault weapons ban.

------------------------------------------------------------>  over there.  Go be a dick over there.
 
2013-10-11 03:27:52 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: I was in a model UN type class my senior year in high school in 1990 when I decided to pull a stunt in class. I had been the Israeli ambassador for a while, and like the real world, tried to be a pretty decent jerk to the Palestinian rep in class. So much so that at least once every few days a motion would be made to have me ejected from the assembly. Never had enough votes, so my jackassery usually continued.

One day I had gotten word that they had managed to scrape enough votes and the Friday assembly I'd be voted out. 

That's when I got the idea that if I had done it today, would be a fark headline.

I staged my own assassination for the assembly before that. Cleared it with the teacher in advance because I wasn't totally stupid. Except I did lie and tell him it'd be Friday, not Wednesday. I wanted his reaction to be as surprised and shocked as everyone elses.

So I got a buddy of mine who had ROTC with me and had a study hall that hour to be my assassin. We fashioned a black hood out of a pair of serviceable dress blue trousers, I gave him my Berretta cap pistol(which looked exactly like a real one). 

I had him wait outside the class in the hall, and on the cue 'anti-semetism' from a speech I was delivering on some sort of jewish cemetary defacing that had gone on in Paris at the time, he was to bust in class, fire the cap gun up in the air, shoot me with it, and drag my 'corpse' out into the hallway. He took a pillowcase, soaked it with red food coloring, put it on my head, pinned a note with the Arab Revolutionary Front taking credit for it and rolled my body back into class.

I don't think anyone even bothered coming out of other classes to see what the commotion was about.

Next time the class met, I introduced myself as the new ambassador and started with a clean slate.

That was just a mere 23 years ago.

How the times they a changed.


You magnificent bastard!

THAT wins the awesomeness prize.
 
2013-10-11 04:03:12 PM

Theaetetus: Maybe he meant my use of "afather" rather than "his father"?


www.travelsnitch.org

That's just company policy...
 
2013-10-11 04:10:02 PM

Panatheist: papatex: Worse than this- peeing behind the bar where no one can see you and getting on the sex offender's list because of it.

tell me where this has actually happened? link to a news article, because everyone says this but never proves it


CSB:

in my freshman year of college (then 18), i was walking home with a girl (days from 18) and we both had to pee.  we found a secluded spot, did our business, and before we knew it there were cops telling us not to move.  i was threatened by the cops to be put on the list for exposing myself in public and the presence of a minor.   they ended up letting us off, but i can definitely see this a being true, especially if it's some cop in podunk nowhere with little if any interesting things to do.
 
2013-10-11 04:33:40 PM
We really need to overhaul the whole sex offender list. It should only be true sex offenders, creepy predators and child rapists and such. It is so diluted by low grade and harmless crap like this that it is almost meaningless except that it pretty much ruins anyone's life to be on it.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't even have it at all. I'm not defending pedophiles but most sex offenses are committed by someone the victim knows. If someone is still a danger keep them locked up otherwise let them get on with their life.
 
2013-10-11 04:35:12 PM

bunner: 1970's - Silly novelty pop hit for Ray Stevens and an equally silly fad.

2010's - "WE'LL RUIN YOUR LIFE!"

And so they did.

Progress.


Yeah I don't get it. Is anyone really scarred for life by seeing someone's bare ass? Ever been in a locker room? Is there anything remotely sexual about streaking?
 
2013-10-11 04:36:31 PM

Loreweaver: revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...

To a 15-year-old, the prospect of being put on the sex offenders list pretty much meant the end of his life. Once you are on that list, you can't have a career, nor get scholarships to attend college, nor have a relationship, nor go out in public without some nut-job parent calling the cops on you.

Once you are on the list, you have to spend the rest of your life locked away from the rest of the world. And no, I don't mean jail. A house can be a prison when the outside world rejects your very existence.

/Not a sex offender
//just physically deformed, which is almost as bad


There is no indication that the school or anyone explicitly threatened him with the Sex Offenders list.  That part was added by the reporter.  All the school basically did was the normal 'Dire consequences' stern talking to.  That is standard (and pretty much expected if you are going to streak at a public event).  I am struggling to see anything that the school did that was out of line.  I don't even think they would have been successful expelling him.

People say that this used to be a common occurrence back in the day, but stern speechs and empty threats were also standard.  I don't see this as being any different.
 
2013-10-11 04:37:00 PM

James10952001: We really need to overhaul the whole sex offender list. It should only be true sex offenders, creepy predators and child rapists and such. It is so diluted by low grade and harmless crap like this that it is almost meaningless except that it pretty much ruins anyone's life to be on it.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't even have it at all. I'm not defending pedophiles but most sex offenses are committed by someone the victim knows. If someone is still a danger keep them locked up otherwise let them get on with their life.


List 1 person who ended up on a sex offender list for streaking.
Or even 1 person who was threatened with it.
I'm waiting...
 
2013-10-11 04:37:07 PM

miss diminutive: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

There's a reason we don't let 15 year olds drive. Or vote. Or serve. Or drink.


This is what I fail to understand about America: how can an 18 year old be considered mature enough to enlist and carry a service weapon but not old enough to drink a beer? How can a 15 year old be considered mature enough to make decisions that will land them on a sex offender list, yet not be old enough to consent to sex?

I think I know the answer already.
 
2013-10-11 04:38:01 PM

MycroftHolmes: Loreweaver: revman64: Kid must have had some serious problems besides this to go as far as killing himself.  The school leaders and school district must feel so guilty for their over-reaction.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit come out of this eventually.  Stupid prank, but not worth killing yourself over.  It would have blown over in time and although he was chastised by adults, he was a legend with his peers.  No judge would have put him on a sex crimes registry at 15 years old over this, that was just a threat to keep copy-cats at bay.  There has to be more to this story...

To a 15-year-old, the prospect of being put on the sex offenders list pretty much meant the end of his life. Once you are on that list, you can't have a career, nor get scholarships to attend college, nor have a relationship, nor go out in public without some nut-job parent calling the cops on you.

Once you are on the list, you have to spend the rest of your life locked away from the rest of the world. And no, I don't mean jail. A house can be a prison when the outside world rejects your very existence.

/Not a sex offender
//just physically deformed, which is almost as bad

There is no indication that the school or anyone explicitly threatened him with the Sex Offenders list.  That part was added by the reporter.  All the school basically did was the normal 'Dire consequences' stern talking to.  That is standard (and pretty much expected if you are going to streak at a public event).  I am struggling to see anything that the school did that was out of line.  I don't even think they would have been successful expelling him.

People say that this used to be a common occurrence back in the day, but stern speechs and empty threats were also standard.  I don't see this as being any different.


Get out of here with your rationality and sense.
This is Fark and the Daily Mail!!!
 
2013-10-11 04:43:00 PM

Mugato: OnlyM3: Mugato


Can't they take "intent" into consideration anymore?No you can't. That would unravel the thought crime laws the democrats spend the late 80's and 90's pushing for. It's not what you said, it's if someone got offended that counts.

Think that's an exaggeration? Go look at HR documentation on sensitivity training.

Right, it's a democrat/republican partisan thing. Take a look at what happened to this country under the Republican regime after 9/11 and seriously contend that it's the Democrats who are the assholes.


The republicans are assholes and the democrats are the warm fuzzy lets do this pointless symbic thing to save the world type. Neither side is terribly smart, I think the right tends to be willfully ignorant to a greater degree, but the left is not as smart as they think they are.
 
2013-10-11 04:47:05 PM

tjsands1118: The sex offender registry is grossly misused. It should be reserved for child molesters and actual rapist. Not streakers and 18 year old's consensually sleeping with their 17 year old boy/girlfriends.


I slept with a 17 year old when I was 19. In my state it was ok, in some states I'd be a sex offender and I'd be the "rapist". She initiates and had a lot more experience than I did at the time.
 
2013-10-11 04:49:45 PM

quansem: miss diminutive: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

There's a reason we don't let 15 year olds drive. Or vote. Or serve. Or drink.

This is what I fail to understand about America: how can an 18 year old be considered mature enough to enlist and carry a service weapon but not old enough to drink a beer? How can a 15 year old be considered mature enough to make decisions that will land them on a sex offender list, yet not be old enough to consent to sex?

I think I know the answer already.


The purpose of the sex offenders registry is not supposed to be punitive, but to allow people to be aware of possible predators.  It is certainly possible that a 15 year old can show predatory behavior that should be a warning sign and warrant being placed on the list.

That being said, the overall execution of the sex offenders list is flawed and doing more harm than good.
 
2013-10-11 04:52:31 PM

Theaetetus: Rik01: And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.

[Citation needed]
... particularly since I think you're referring to this, which notes "Legally, there's no such thing as sexual assault for a six year-old in California."


I'm not aware of that case but there have been numerous cases of young teens being both the victim and the perpetrator in child pornography cases involving naughty cellphone pictures. Yet another case of these laws bein abused.
 
2013-10-11 04:59:37 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Good. One more weakling dead.


You know, I don't like to wish death on anyone, so I will say this: I hope the next person to kill themselves is someone you love dearly.
 
2013-10-11 05:04:02 PM

Begoggle: James10952001: We really need to overhaul the whole sex offender list. It should only be true sex offenders, creepy predators and child rapists and such. It is so diluted by low grade and harmless crap like this that it is almost meaningless except that it pretty much ruins anyone's life to be on it.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't even have it at all. I'm not defending pedophiles but most sex offenses are committed by someone the victim knows. If someone is still a danger keep them locked up otherwise let them get on with their life.

List 1 person who ended up on a sex offender list for streaking.
Or even 1 person who was threatened with it.
I'm waiting...


Back when I knew people who streaked it was never a big deal. I do know a guy who is a level 1 offender for mooning a busy street on a dare, that's close. Lots of people are on the list for consensual sex with their bf/gf who was a few months younger. There was a story in the news a few years ago about a kid who served several years for getting a BJ at a party. It happens.
 
2013-10-11 05:07:28 PM

James10952001: Begoggle: James10952001: We really need to overhaul the whole sex offender list. It should only be true sex offenders, creepy predators and child rapists and such. It is so diluted by low grade and harmless crap like this that it is almost meaningless except that it pretty much ruins anyone's life to be on it.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't even have it at all. I'm not defending pedophiles but most sex offenses are committed by someone the victim knows. If someone is still a danger keep them locked up otherwise let them get on with their life.

List 1 person who ended up on a sex offender list for streaking.
Or even 1 person who was threatened with it.
I'm waiting...

Back when I knew people who streaked it was never a big deal. I do know a guy who is a level 1 offender for mooning a busy street on a dare, that's close. Lots of people are on the list for consensual sex with their bf/gf who was a few months younger. There was a story in the news a few years ago about a kid who served several years for getting a BJ at a party. It happens.


So in other words, no, it hasn't happened.
And it didn't happen in this case either.
And the headline is a lie and the Daily Mail article is offensively misleading.
 
2013-10-11 05:09:55 PM

Wellon Dowd: Zero tolerance. It's not just a bad idea; it's a bad law.


Which law are you talking about exactly?
The one you made up?
You realize he wasn't put on the sex offender list, and he wasn't threatened with it either.
But keep fighting that straw man.
 
2013-10-11 05:11:43 PM

colinspooky: If this story is spot on, it makes me so angry that I


Did you even read the story?
I already know the answer is no.
 
2013-10-11 05:13:07 PM

skinink: Too bad that a good thing like the Sex Offender Registry has been misused from its original intention and is now wielded like a blunt instrument against anyone. That the school administrators were pretty much fine in using it as a threat against a teen to possibly ruin the rest of his not even reached adulthood is sad.


Another Einstein who didn't even read the article.
 
2013-10-11 05:13:43 PM

SpectroBoy: bunner: 1970's - Silly novelty pop hit for Ray Stevens and an equally silly fad.

2010's - "WE'LL RUIN YOUR LIFE!"

And so they did.

Progress.

This.

When did nudity become the ultimate act of evil in this country?


Just a little before torture became acceptable.
 
2013-10-11 05:14:08 PM
Hermione_Granger:

Really? The same school and state that should understand that children and teens don't have the same level of comprehension or reaction to circumstances that an adult would? For not understanding that a kid facing the same level of punishment as a child molester might react in ways they couldn't predict?
...
Treating him like a criminal for a harmless prank should be considered child abuse at best and cruel and unusual punishment at worse - especially as they caused him so much anguish that he took his own life. The adults involved should be censured harshly, if not fired.



Be fair: Nobody had a chance to treat him like a criminal, as the kid committed suicide well before that. (Being told I might lose my license for driving over the speed limit might compel me to ram my car into the nearest wall, but it would not be the fault of the State if I chose to do so.)
 
SVX
2013-10-11 05:47:08 PM
Anybody else kinda wish Lincoln had looked at the South in 1861 and said "don't let the door hit you in the ass"?  I mean, Sherman's march was nice and all, but watching them compete with Mexicans for the scraps from the North's table would have been a riot to observe.

I mean, think about it.  Had the Confederacy been allowed to exist, they'd still be teaching Creationism and a Young Earth in the schools as fact down there.  For all I know, they'd still be burning witches, too.  And they wouldn't be pulling a buck fifty back from Washington for every dollar they send, while screaming about lib'ruls, and driving moderate conservatives into the wilderness.  Like me.

Let Richmond pay for those mental midgets.

Yup, I'm bitter.  Fark these asswipes in their pieholes.
 
2013-10-11 06:02:02 PM

log_jammin: DrPainMD: Ummm... it was the liberals in California who started the sex offender registry BS in the US.


yes. those liberals who ran the state of California in 1947....


1) Who decides which crimes qualify?

2) If the registry dates back to 1947, are there people who have to register as sex offenders for activities they once engaged in with consenting adults, back when non-procreative sex was illegal?
 
2013-10-11 06:07:32 PM

slayer199: Streaking has gone from a relatively harmless and occasionally amusing prank to a serious crime.  FTA::"Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously."  Well, I think the kid treated it seriously.  Well done administration.   You've done an excellent job putting fear into anyone that would consider doing this heinous crime again,

Farking assholes. DIAF Mr. Campbell along with the rest of your self-righteous asshole administration.

Hell, at our homecoming game (and parade) we had guys that mooned the opposing team's stands one football season.  Yes, they were suspended, but nobody was talking about citing them for indecent exposure and sex crimes.

This shows again why most admins are empty-headed drones with no common sense.  But said admins are swaggering, overbearing, tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood, you have to give them that.  I'm looking at you, Principal Michael Campbell, you tiny-minded prick.
 
2013-10-11 06:13:43 PM

fugeeface: This shows again why most admins are empty-headed drones with no common sense. But said admins are swaggering, overbearing, tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood, you have to give them that.


And, with that, fugeeface ensures never getting another greenlit Fark submission again...

/At least you didn't upset the mods...
 
2013-10-11 06:21:48 PM
Begoggle:

List 1 person who ended up on a sex offender list for streaking.
Or even 1 person who was threatened with it.
I'm waiting...


Wait no longer!  Sorry it is Daily Mail as well, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
2013-10-11 06:39:17 PM
MN law is relatively progressive compared to some states, but you can end up on the offender registry for indecent exposure (i.e., streaking).  You have to a) commit the offense at least once in the presence of a minor, and b) do it again afterwards to make the offense a felony indecent exposure; or alternately, expose yourself while confining/restricting movement of another person (MN 617.23).  The second way (617.23 subd 2 clause 2) is loosely enough defined that it could be used easily to make it a felony -- if I block a doorway while mooning people in the room, am I intentionally restricting their movement?

However, it's a higher bar than some states.  North Carolina, as an example taken from a quick google, requires registration for felony indecent exposure as well, but the law (NC GS 14.190-9(a1)) only requires a single offense if a minor is involved.  I could easily see a righteous, God-fearing prosecutor deciding to claim that streaking was for the person's own sexual gratification, even if there's a chance that a decent lawyer might get that tossed down to a gross misdemeanor -- that's assuming y'all can afford your own lawyer and aren't using an overworked, underpaid public defender.

Last, Alabama (the state from TFA) does require registration (AL DPS) for any indecent exposure (as defined in  ALA CODE 13A-6-68).  You're not listed on the web site, but you are registered.  While you don't have to go introduce yourself to all the neighbors, good luck getting any job that does a background check or going to college, much less having any chance of being successful.

/ I'm not a lawyer, and I found this using a simple google.  It's completely believable that at least in some states, taking a leak on a tree gets you on the offender list, and it's not a paranoid fantasy.
// I was bored and annoyed by people downplaying it
/// Liberal or conservative, this shiat's a bad idea.  Do the time and done. Stop punishing people for life, or just keep 'em in jail and be done with it.
 
2013-10-11 06:53:04 PM

seek3r: Reminds of that cases in Penn where the kids "sexting" were both charged as adults for distributing child pron... of themselves... charged as adults..

/I do think Penn fixed that problem recently at least

Penn?

Pennsylvania, looks like they did finally change the law to make it a misdemeanor now instead of a felony for the minors involved in such cases
/hate PA in general
//the only state in the union where the state bird call is road construction


"Penn" specifically means University of Pennsylvania. It's never used to refer to the state as a whole.
 
2013-10-11 07:05:24 PM

plutonium: / I'm not a lawyer, and I found this using a simple google. It's completely believable that at least in some states, taking a leak on a tree gets you on the offender list, and it's not a paranoid fantasy.
// I was bored and annoyed by people downplaying it


It would be a stronger case if you could find some actual examples of the laws being applied this way (in the U.S.).
 
2013-10-11 07:32:16 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Good. One more weakling dead.


This is not a proper manner for disposing of weaklings.
Do the Apache or the Masai dispose of their weak by putting them on some Goddamn pansy "sex offender's list" I ask you?
Why, f**k no, they don't!
This is no sort of legitimate Darwinist passage-into-manhood ritual - this is just a bunch of prudes trying to spray that kind of stupid flock that looks like snow all over reality.
 
2013-10-11 07:57:14 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Seriously, a sex offender registry has the aim of keeping dangerous criminals in the public spotlight.  You don't help to single out the dangerous trees if the entire forest is on the list.  Is the creep moving in next door on the list because he took a leak behind a billboard or because he raped a nun?


We've been here before.  The Mann Act was passed to combat sex slave trafficking, but was perverted into treating men who drove their GFs across state lines like pimps.
 
2013-10-11 08:20:41 PM
 
2013-10-11 09:07:09 PM

JaCiNto: Serious question: If he is a minor, wouldn't he be able to petition the court to have his records sealed and expunged on his 18th birthday? How does that work with the sex offender registry, would they be required to seal his records too??


Well, when records are 'sealed and expunged', all it means is that private citizens can't access them.  The Feds, Local/State governments, and - whether you like it or not - most big corporations can get to them.  The records aren't disposed of, it's just that your ability to access them is restricted.  When I was a USAF recruiter, I had a bunch of kids tell me their records were sealed/expunged, and they were always very disappointed when I would take them to get said records and have the nice clerks explain how things really work.
 
2013-10-11 10:02:05 PM

Kittypie070: OK, I hereby decree that all humans in the Holy Godly State of Alabama should have their junk carefully removed and cryogenically stored, to be used only for procreative purposes after lengthy psychological screening prior to each act of procreative activity.

I mean, since junk is so satanic and hideous and illegal and sh*t.


You realize that this shiat is happening all over the farking country right?

Jesus...
 
2013-10-11 10:42:48 PM

MycroftHolmes: quansem: miss diminutive: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

There's a reason we don't let 15 year olds drive. Or vote. Or serve. Or drink.

This is what I fail to understand about America: how can an 18 year old be considered mature enough to enlist and carry a service weapon but not old enough to drink a beer? How can a 15 year old be considered mature enough to make decisions that will land them on a sex offender list, yet not be old enough to consent to sex?

I think I know the answer already.

The purpose of the sex offenders registry is not supposed to be punitive, but to allow people to be aware of possible predators.  It is certainly possible that a 15 year old can show predatory behavior that should be a warning sign and warrant being placed on the list.

That being said, the overall execution of the sex offenders list is flawed and doing more harm than good.


Uhhh.....dude, you haven't been following our country's culture at least within the last ten years. It's not just to "be aware of possible predators". It's also beyond punitive: it's intended to be proverbial nuclear motherfarking fire almighty. It's society's message that they are trillions of times worse than the Nazis, more or less with good reason (yes, Godwin, whatever). It's there to make sure that we try to NOT let them have a job, NOT let them legally buy food, shelter and anything else. If we could, we'd find a way to punish their families, too.

One day, some President of ours will sign something that will cause everyone on that list to disappear in the middle of the night, and most of us won't even bat an eye.
 
2013-10-11 11:37:36 PM
Zero Tolerance kills again!

/Zero Tolerance is for child molesters, animal abusers, and walkers
//Need that on a bumper sticker
 
2013-10-11 11:41:33 PM

hailin: Maybe it is a per state thing. We have had streakers and pantyraiders end up on our sexual offenders registry, though usually for streakers it is listed as public exposure, but raiders are listed as other;pantyraiding


I'm pretty sure they don't mean "pantyraiding" in the Animal House/Revenge of the Nerds sense.

Trespassing on private property, or entering other people's homes or rooms to steal underwear for the purpose of sexual gratification is highly creepy and actually criminal behaviour.  It's a serious invasion of a person's sense of security, and is the kind of behaviour that can (but not necessarily will) escalate to other more serious offenses (peeping, masturbating in the location rather than absconding with the underwear, stalking, rape).

When I realised my underwear was going missed from the laundromat it made me look askance at every guy in the neighbourhood, wondering who the creeper was and if he was going to start stalking me.

Hell, even if they do mean it in the frat boy sense; good.  That "boys will be boys, it's not really a crime, chill out" bullshiat needs to be shut down.  If it's a crime to break into someone's place and steal their underwear in the "real world" it's a crime in college.
 
2013-10-11 11:52:07 PM

if_i_really_have_to: hailin: Maybe it is a per state thing. We have had streakers and pantyraiders end up on our sexual offenders registry, though usually for streakers it is listed as public exposure, but raiders are listed as other;pantyraiding

I'm pretty sure they don't mean "pantyraiding" in the Animal House/Revenge of the Nerds sense.

Trespassing on private property, or entering other people's homes or rooms to steal underwear for the purpose of sexual gratification is highly creepy and actually criminal behaviour.  It's a serious invasion of a person's sense of security, and is the kind of behaviour that can (but not necessarily will) escalate to other more serious offenses (peeping, masturbating in the location rather than absconding with the underwear, stalking, rape).

When I realised my underwear was going missed from the laundromat it made me look askance at every guy in the neighbourhood, wondering who the creeper was and if he was going to start stalking me.

Hell, even if they do mean it in the frat boy sense; good.  That "boys will be boys, it's not really a crime, chill out" bullshiat needs to be shut down.  If it's a crime to break into someone's place and steal their underwear in the "real world" it's a crime in college.


Not to get all victim-blamey here but can you be sure that's what was really happening? Was it a lot of pairs all at one time or something? If it was a just couple pairs here and there you could have just mistakenly left them in the machine because I seem to lose socks and undies quite frequently and I'm pretty sure no one is stealing them.

/just joking, its highly likely someone was stealing your undies
//people are pervs
///that includes me, but i dont have your undies i swear
 
2013-10-12 12:11:47 AM
Oh come on! It's just a naked boy, nothing to be outraged about! He didn't have jiggling evil female boobs that would have turned everyone who saw them into homicidal rapists!
 
2013-10-12 01:48:35 AM
SmellsLikePoo: Rage growing... Aren't these these admins/distric officials part of the "Flower Power" generation?  WTF happened to them?

cman: 15 years old: not old enough for others to fark but old enough to get put on sexual registration lists

This is spot on.  If the person is not old enough to consent, then how the HELL do we treat them as old enough to be put on a sex offender registry.


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2013-10-12 03:53:27 AM
Theaeteus

Rik01

And, yes, kids can be charged with a sex offense as young as 6 years old and have been.

[Citation needed]
... particularly since I think you're referring to this, which notes "Legally, there's no such thing as sexual assault for a six year-old in California."


{Citation granted}

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/23/parents-sue-da-for-charging-their-6 - year

Parents Sue D.A. for Charging Their 6-Year-Old Son With a Felony After He Played Doctor With a 5-Year-Old Girl Jacob Sullum|Nov. 23, 2011 4:38 pm

Last week the parents of a Wisconsin boy sued Grant County District Attorney Lisa Riniker for charging their son with first-degree sexual assault, a Class B felony, after he played "butt doctor" with a 5-year-old girl. He was 6 at the time. When the boy's lawyer tried to have the charge dismissed, Riniker replied: "The legislature could have put an age restriction in the statute if it wanted to. The legislature did no such thing."

According to the complaint (PDF), the girl is "the daughter of a well-known political figure in Grant County," and her brother, who is the same age, also was involved in playing doctor but was not charged. In addition to Riniker, the lawsuit names as defendants retired Grant County Sheriff's Sgt. James Kopp and Jan Moravits, an investigator with Grant County Social Services "whose regional supervisor...is the political figure's wife's sister-in-law"-i.e., the aunt of the alleged victim.

Although the boy, now 7, is too young to be prosecuted or named in a juvenile delinquency petitition, Madison.com reports, county officials are using the felony charge to force his parents into accepting "protection or services" for him. The lawsuit says that once he turns 18, he will be listed as a sex offender.

I noted a similar case in my July Reason story on sex offender laws.
 
2013-10-12 08:33:04 AM

Wingchild: Hermione


Wingchild: Hermione_Granger:

Really? The same school and state that should understand that children and teens don't have the same level of comprehension or reaction to circumstances that an adult would? For not understanding that a kid facing the same level of punishment as a child molester might react in ways they couldn't predict?
...
Treating him like a criminal for a harmless prank should be considered child abuse at best and cruel and unusual punishment at worse - especially as they caused him so much anguish that he took his own life. The adults involved should be censured harshly, if not fired.


Be fair: Nobody had a chance to treat him like a criminal, as the kid committed suicide well before that. (Being told I might lose my license for driving over the speed limit might compel me to ram my car into the nearest wall, but it would not be the fault of the State if I chose to do so.)


You are not a 15 year old kid either. You would react to something like this like an adult, not a kid. Which was kinda my point.
 
2013-10-12 11:12:24 AM
Alabama has always been a great place to visit if you want to see what mankind was like five hundred years ago.
 
2013-10-12 11:47:32 AM

theBigBigEye: MycroftHolmes: quansem: miss diminutive: susler: Well, and I'm not saying this to be an asshole, he could have waited until he actually got put on the list to off himself.

There's a reason we don't let 15 year olds drive. Or vote. Or serve. Or drink.

This is what I fail to understand about America: how can an 18 year old be considered mature enough to enlist and carry a service weapon but not old enough to drink a beer? How can a 15 year old be considered mature enough to make decisions that will land them on a sex offender list, yet not be old enough to consent to sex?

I think I know the answer already.

The purpose of the sex offenders registry is not supposed to be punitive, but to allow people to be aware of possible predators.  It is certainly possible that a 15 year old can show predatory behavior that should be a warning sign and warrant being placed on the list.

That being said, the overall execution of the sex offenders list is flawed and doing more harm than good.

Uhhh.....dude, you haven't been following our country's culture at least within the last ten years. It's not just to "be aware of possible predators". It's also beyond punitive: it's intended to be proverbial nuclear motherfarking fire almighty. It's society's message that they are trillions of times worse than the Nazis, more or less with good reason (yes, Godwin, whatever). It's there to make sure that we try to NOT let them have a job, NOT let them legally buy food, shelter and anything else. If we could, we'd find a way to punish their families, too.

One day, some President of ours will sign something that will cause everyone on that list to disappear in the middle of the night, and most of us won't even bat an eye.


Thank you for agreeing with me.  The intent of the registry when formulated was not meant to be punitive.  The execution, however, as you point out, has been extremely punitive.  Thus my statement "That being said, the overall execution of the sex offenders list is flawed and doing more harm than good.'  I guess I could have thrown in more profanity and hyperbole, and then you would have maybe understood my point.
 
2013-10-12 11:48:16 AM

NephilimNexus: Alabama has always been a great place to visit if you want to see what mankind was like five hundred years ago.


Did someone from Detroit really just talk smack about where other people live?
 
2013-10-12 08:00:17 PM
Campbell added that that the incident was not just a prank and needed to be treated seriously.

Get cancer and die.
 
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