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(Kansas.com)   If Calvin Coolidge was president today, the federal government wouldn't be shut down. We would also have a 143-year-old president   (kansas.com ) divider line
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2013-10-10 07:00:48 PM  
5 votes:
If FDR was president today, we'd not only have universal healthcare, but the WPA version 2.0 would be breathing life into our economy and modernizing our infrastructure.
2013-10-10 06:55:41 PM  
5 votes:
If Teddy Roosevelt was president today he'd make a Failducken by shoving Cruz up Boehner's ass, shoving Cruz/Boehner up McConnell's ass and cook it by cockpunching the results into the sun.
2013-10-10 08:04:34 PM  
4 votes:
When I think of Coolidge, the very last thing I think of is "Man of Action". "Corporate Stooge" and "Responsible for the Great Depression" spring to mind sooner
2013-10-10 06:54:31 PM  
4 votes:
"He would go over to the House (of Representatives) to listen to their concerns, and they would work out a compromise."

Pretty hard to compromise with someone who refuses to offer you anything.
2013-10-10 09:05:49 PM  
3 votes:

spongeboob: Gulper Eel: hardinparamedic: If FDR was president today, we'd not only have universal healthcare, but the WPA version 2.0 would be breathing life into our economy and modernizing our infrastructure.

For his first two terms or so, FDR wasn't fit to push the wheelbarrow that carried Winston Churchill's balls around.

The economy remained firmly in the shiatter under FDR until at long last it became apparent to him that Hitler wasn't farking around and so maybe pandering to the cheap seats by pissing all over any business that still had two quarters to rub together wasn't the best move if we didn't want the Nazis laying siege to Ebbets Field three years hence. Good for him for realizing in time that isolationism was a biatch's stance and it was time to be a nasty-ass Dresden-bombing Patton-unleashing atom-bomb-building hard ass ruthless motherfarker.

And doubly good for Truman for dropping those bombs.

So waging war leads to economic recovery, then why did we have the 2008 collapse while fighting two wars?


Because it was war on the cheap, financed by tax CUTS. That had never happened before.
2013-10-10 08:16:30 PM  
3 votes:
While I think Coolidge was a pretty awesome guy on a  personal level... the author is aware that his  policy legacy is the great depression, right?

I mean, his real, long-term legacy as a laissez-faire "let businesses do what they want" president, not the arbitrary, more-or-less random shiat that happened to occur during his actual term.  Kind of like how the 2007 housing/general economic crash was Clinton's legacy for signing off on the repeal of Glass-Steagall and generally letting high finance do whatever it wanted for short-term economic gains using other people's money.

//Not that there weren't other contributors to both the depression and the 2007 crash, they're just the respective most important ramifications in hindsight of things that probably seemed like a good idea at the time.  And I pick the Clinton example because they're both similar examples or actively refusing to regulate speculative finance and having it blow up in everyone's face once you've safely passed the ball to the next guy and retired a rich motherfarker.
2013-10-10 11:28:35 PM  
2 votes:

grumpfuff: spongeboob: grumpfuff: MFAWG: farking Coolidge is a conservative hero now?

This. When I saw the headline I was sitting here confused, thinking it HAD to be a type.

Who the fark ever mentions Coolidge, except maybe to point out his legendary silence.

Coolidge has been brought up before, usually by the type of people who like to say that FDR made the depression worse.

I never could understand FDR hate. From my understanding of things, most historians rate him as one of the better US presidents ever, if not the best. He did lots of pretty cool stuff(though admittedly, Japanese internment camps is not one of them). Do Republicans really hate the New Deal THAT much?


They have to purify their ideology, which means purifying their history.  Discrediting the New Deal and the Great Society means they can construct the narrative that social reform impedes our society.
2013-10-10 09:41:36 PM  
2 votes:

MFAWG: Because it was war on the cheap, financed by tax CUTS. That had never happened before.


Also, WW2 boosted the economy of the US during because a war demands an increase in  manufacturing while reducing the  unskilled labor pool, thus making assembly-line jobs relatively plentiful and good deals in terms of pay.  In the 1940s, the vast majority of the US economy was based on human-based manufacturing of heavy equipment.

After WW2, it boosted our economy because all of our economic competition was a smoldering ruin that needed to buy a bunch of equipment from the one remaining intact/boosted manufacturing base in the world to fix that.

Afghanistan/Iraq:
-- Didn't use much manpower (in historical terms), so the labor pool didn't really shrink
-- and used mostly specialist equipment manufactured using robotics and technicians, not low-skill workers easily pulled into job openings for increased demand
-- at a time when our economy was mostly service-based
-- while our economic competition was flourishing and in fact actively building up its own financial base.

Yeah, the tax cuts were a stupid idea, but Iraq was hardly unique in providing no real financial boost to the US.  No war we've been in since WW2 has boosted our economy, really.

//Yet another reason why constantly getting into the damned things is retarded.
2013-10-10 09:13:00 PM  
2 votes:
Oh, and Obama already compromised. Months ago. This is completely and 100% on the Tea Party and Boehner.
2013-10-10 08:30:54 PM  
2 votes:

Gulper Eel: For his first two terms or so, FDR wasn't fit to push the wheelbarrow that carried Winston Churchill's balls around.



Uh, Winston wasn't doing particularly well during FDR's first two terms.
2013-10-10 08:28:21 PM  
2 votes:

Gulper Eel: The economy remained firmly in the shiatter under FDR


[Citation needed]
2013-10-11 11:02:20 AM  
1 vote:

Zafler: captainktainer: What the shiat is this.

Someone that can't read the graph they themselves posted and see the 25% (and increasing) from before the New Deal started.


It only (almost) halved unemployment in 3 years? What a failure of a policy...
2013-10-11 10:25:15 AM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: Zafler: In this thread: people who are doomed to repeat history pretending that the New Deal didn't work.

[blsciblogs.baruch.cuny.edu image 504x253]


Cool graphic I was listening to the Bob Edwards Show this am, 10/11/13, and they were talking about how because of concern about the deficiet FDR lowered the stimulus in 1937 leading to rising unemployment in 38, now if only your graphic had some additional information like the level of government spending it might actually be informative.  Because right now it just shows unemployment rates with no context of what was going on, almost like it was made with some kind of agenda
2013-10-11 09:00:55 AM  
1 vote:
You do realize your chart supports my statement that the new deal worked right? Since it started in 1933 and the effects were slowed in '37?

Apparently, those who don't know history are doomed to post graphs that support the other persons point.
2013-10-11 04:21:37 AM  
1 vote:
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2013-10-11 12:30:53 AM  
1 vote:

grumpfuff: MFAWG: grumpfuff: MFAWG: farking Coolidge is a conservative hero now?

This. When I saw the headline I was sitting here confused, thinking it HAD to be a type.

Who the fark ever mentions Coolidge, except maybe to point out his legendary silence.

It makes sense in a way: They worship a Reagan that never existed and anybody over 40 KNOWS never existed, Nixon is problematic at best, Eisenhower was a socialist.

So they're stuck with Coolidge.

When you put it that way, it actually makes sense, and is a bit sad.

Cataholic: Woman at party:  "I bet my friend I could make you say more than two words."

Coolidge:  "You lose."

Normally your posts are aggrivating. But in this instance, you have quoted what I feel is one of the funniest quotes in politics ever, so for that, I commend you(though I think the original quote is three words, but I could be wrong).


It's actually apocryphal - almost certainly didn't happen. The problem is mostly that that quotation is attributed to Dorothy Parker who wasn't really the type for something that cutesy. What she actually said about Coolidge dying was "How could they tell?".

Moral of the story: Dorothy Parker was brilliant, Calvin Coolidge was a terrible president.
2013-10-10 11:30:15 PM  
1 vote:

grumpfuff: spongeboob: grumpfuff: MFAWG: farking Coolidge is a conservative hero now?

This. When I saw the headline I was sitting here confused, thinking it HAD to be a type.

Who the fark ever mentions Coolidge, except maybe to point out his legendary silence.

Coolidge has been brought up before, usually by the type of people who like to say that FDR made the depression worse.

I never could understand FDR hate. From my understanding of things, most historians rate him as one of the better US presidents ever, if not the best. He did lots of pretty cool stuff(though admittedly, Japanese internment camps is not one of them). Do Republicans really hate the New Deal THAT much?


Yes.
2013-10-10 11:22:13 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: grumpfuff: MFAWG: farking Coolidge is a conservative hero now?

This. When I saw the headline I was sitting here confused, thinking it HAD to be a type.

Who the fark ever mentions Coolidge, except maybe to point out his legendary silence.

Coolidge has been brought up before, usually by the type of people who like to say that FDR made the depression worse.


I never could understand FDR hate. From my understanding of things, most historians rate him as one of the better US presidents ever, if not the best. He did lots of pretty cool stuff(though admittedly, Japanese internment camps is not one of them). Do Republicans really hate the New Deal THAT much?
2013-10-10 09:07:47 PM  
1 vote:
Gulper Eel: I'm spitting out some of the worst bullshiat masquerading as distorted history that doesn't have a shred of credibility outside of the echo chamber.
2013-10-10 08:45:39 PM  
1 vote:

TofuTheAlmighty: So massive, debt-driven government spending can supercharge a languid economy? Correct you are! Wish more politicians understood that.


It works particularly well when all your would-be competitors have been turned to smoking rubble.
2013-10-10 08:41:38 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: hardinparamedic: If FDR was president today, we'd not only have universal healthcare, but the WPA version 2.0 would be breathing life into our economy and modernizing our infrastructure.

For his first two terms or so, FDR wasn't fit to push the wheelbarrow that carried Winston Churchill's balls around.

The economy remained firmly in the shiatter under FDR until at long last it became apparent to him that Hitler wasn't farking around and so maybe pandering to the cheap seats by pissing all over any business that still had two quarters to rub together wasn't the best move if we didn't want the Nazis laying siege to Ebbets Field three years hence. Good for him for realizing in time that isolationism was a biatch's stance and it was time to be a nasty-ass Dresden-bombing Patton-unleashing atom-bomb-building hard ass ruthless motherfarker.

And doubly good for Truman for dropping those bombs.


So massive, debt-driven government spending can supercharge a languid economy? Correct you are! Wish more politicians understood that.
2013-10-10 08:34:48 PM  
1 vote:

Gulper Eel: hardinparamedic: If FDR was president today, we'd not only have universal healthcare, but the WPA version 2.0 would be breathing life into our economy and modernizing our infrastructure.

For his first two terms or so, FDR wasn't fit to push the wheelbarrow that carried Winston Churchill's balls around.

The economy remained firmly in the shiatter under FDR until at long last it became apparent to him that Hitler wasn't farking around and so maybe pandering to the cheap seats by pissing all over any business that still had two quarters to rub together wasn't the best move if we didn't want the Nazis laying siege to Ebbets Field three years hence. Good for him for realizing in time that isolationism was a biatch's stance and it was time to be a nasty-ass Dresden-bombing Patton-unleashing atom-bomb-building hard ass ruthless motherfarker.

And doubly good for Truman for dropping those bombs.


So waging war leads to economic recovery, then why did we have the 2008 collapse while fighting two wars?
2013-10-10 08:03:23 PM  
1 vote:
"A lifetime spent researching Calvin Coolidge" has to be up there with "paralyzed from the neck down at age two" among the saddest things one could ever hope to see in an obituary.
2013-10-10 07:37:09 PM  
1 vote:
And Andrew Jackson would beat Boehner with his cane, what's your point?
2013-10-10 07:07:57 PM  
1 vote:
"Silent Cal"? Really? In today's 24-hour news frenzypalooza? Not likely.
 
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