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2013-10-10 11:18:49 AM  
For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.
 
2013-10-10 11:22:38 AM  

atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.


Yup.
 
2013-10-10 11:22:50 AM  

atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.


Done in one.
 
2013-10-10 11:23:18 AM  
Quick, act farking shocked and confused about how the prison system works like it JUST STARTED. You can use the same shocked and confused face you're using over how web infrastructure works, who runs national parks, and the cost of basic services being higher than the cost of nothing.

Goddamn, son.
 
2013-10-10 11:24:10 AM  
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atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.


That and they are not government employees. Though why "prison guard" isn't an essential position is beyond me.
 
2013-10-10 11:24:36 AM  
for those who hadnt heard

The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. "This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors."
According to the Left Business Observer, the federal prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, ammunition belts, bullet-proof vests, ID tags, shirts, pants, tents, bags, and canteens. Along with war supplies, prison workers supply 98% of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93% of paints and paintbrushes; 92% of stove assembly; 46% of body armor; 36% of home appliances; 30% of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21% of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies, and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.
 
2013-10-10 11:25:51 AM  
Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.
 
2013-10-10 11:25:54 AM  

atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.


Yep, done in one. For profit prisons and exploitive companies take advantage of minimum wage loopholes. If you don't like that prisoners are getting money from these companies Teabaggers, then boycott them and their products.
 
2013-10-10 11:26:26 AM  
so, no new taxes?
 
2013-10-10 11:28:50 AM  
Oh, look. Another free market capitalist who thinks everyone should work for free. Cripes, prisoners are almost working for free as it is and don't really have a choice to do otherwise if they want to get paroled.
 
2013-10-10 11:29:41 AM  
Prisoners are truly slaves.  They have no choice in where to work or what product to produce, work is mandatory, and they live in terrible conditions.  You may say "Gee whiz FarkedOver, they're bad people.  Why else would they be in prison!?" My response to you would be the War on Drugs you shiathead.
 
2013-10-10 11:30:16 AM  
All the Koch Industries employees do get some pay.
 
2013-10-10 11:33:56 AM  
I blame those Yankton c***suckers.
 
2013-10-10 11:33:57 AM  

FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.


Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.
 
2013-10-10 11:35:04 AM  
Prisoners get paid so they can be considered "employed", allowing Obama to report lower unemployment rates to make him look good.
 
2013-10-10 11:36:32 AM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: .atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.

That and they are not government employees. Though why "prison guard" isn't an essential position is beyond me.


They are essential which is why they are still working. Working but not getting paid.
 
2013-10-10 11:37:29 AM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: That and they are not government employees. Though why "prison guard" isn't an essential position is beyond me.

The "essential" employees don't get paid, they just have to come in to work and should get backpay when all this is over.

FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.


And it's all good with the Constitution too.
 
2013-10-10 11:39:19 AM  

Saners: Prisoners get paid so they can be considered "employed", allowing Obama to report lower unemployment rates to make him look good.


not sure if trolling. If not... how did prison employment affect unemployment numbers under Bush? Clinton? Bush Sr? Carter? Reagan? Ford? Kennedy? Nixon?
 
2013-10-10 11:39:24 AM  

LarryDan43: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.


Wow, that's a one-two punch of depressing cynicism right there.

/Not saying you're wrong.
 
2013-10-10 11:40:05 AM  
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atomic-age: For the pennies an hour labor they provide to corporations, yes, they do get paychecks.

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2013-10-10 11:40:15 AM  

FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.


I see no problem with this.
 
2013-10-10 11:40:23 AM  

LarryDan43: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.


I just wish this weren't true. It is where this country is headed. Soon, the vast majority of the population will be imprisoned, and forced to work for pennies per hour for the remainder of their lives.
 
2013-10-10 11:41:20 AM  

robbiex0r: Saners: Prisoners get paid so they can be considered "employed", allowing Obama to report lower unemployment rates to make him look good.

not sure if trolling. If not... how did prison employment affect unemployment numbers under Bush? Clinton? Bush Sr? Carter? Reagan? Ford? Kennedy? Nixon?


You were right the first time.
 
2013-10-10 11:41:39 AM  
Oh Fark, you are so edgy with your pretend support for prisoner's rights.
 
2013-10-10 11:42:08 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

I see no problem with this.


From a business standpoint it's great.  From a working class perspective it's absolutely terrifying considering the incarceration rates in this country and the recidivism rates.
 
2013-10-10 11:45:24 AM  

FarkedOver: Dr Jack Badofsky: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

I see no problem with this.

From a business standpoint it's great.  From a working class perspective it's absolutely terrifying considering the incarceration rates in this country and the recidivism rates.


Considering that it was their own transgressions(s) that put them in that position to begin with, I see no reason to "reward" anyone for breaking the law and costing taxpayers $30,000 - $50,000 / year to babysit them, violent or not.
 
2013-10-10 11:46:18 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Considering that it was their own transgressions(s) that put them in that position to begin with, I see no reason to "reward" anyone for breaking the law and costing taxpayers $30,000 - $50,000 / year to babysit them, violent or not.


You think everyone in prison deserves to be in prison?  Please read up on the war on drugs and get back to us.  Thanks.
 
2013-10-10 11:51:02 AM  
bindlestiff2600:
prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.

This.. this I can agree with.  Caring for an animal can truly make you a better person.  Also, prisoners in that kind of program typically have an excellent chance of rehabilitation.

The rest of that shiat is just immoral however.  If prisoners are doing manufacturing for slave wages... well we can't blame the Chinese for terking our jerbs any more, now can we?
 
2013-10-10 11:52:32 AM  

No Such Agency: This.. this I can agree with. Caring for an animal can truly make you a better person. Also, prisoners in that kind of program typically have an excellent chance of rehabilitation.

The rest of that shiat is just immoral however. If prisoners are doing manufacturing for slave wages... well we can't blame the Chinese for terking our jerbs any more, now can we?


Nope, we can't blame the chinese or the prisoners for taking our jerbs.  We can blame the capitalist system that aims at cutting wages at any chance it gets.
 
2013-10-10 11:53:02 AM  
"Kunkel says workers have already gone a week without pay"

I go a week without getting paid every time, it's called being paid bi-monthly.  I don't claim that being a Federal prison guard is living in the lap of luxury.  But, it's a well paying job with great benefits and you should be ashamed of yourself if you don't have money saved up and are living paycheck to paycheck.  But, I suppose your overextended mortgage, $120mo cable tv and catalog of xbox games are more important than family financial security
 
2013-10-10 11:55:09 AM  

Watubi: I go a week without getting paid every time, it's called being paid bi-monthly. I don't claim that being a Federal prison guard is living in the lap of luxury. But, it's a well paying job with great benefits and you should be ashamed of yourself if you don't have money saved up and are living paycheck to paycheck. But, I suppose your overextended mortgage, $120mo cable tv and catalog of xbox games are more important than family financial security


Yeah, let's blame the workers for their ridiculous mismanagement and not this country who has two parties actively engaged in figure out ways to take more away from working class people.
 
2013-10-10 11:57:22 AM  
I don't have a problem with rapists, murderers, thieves, pedos, etc... (yanno REAL criminals who have proven they will consistently f*ck up everyone else's day if allowed to raom around free... not Johnny Pothead, or Drunkinthepark Mark or Can'tpayherfines Suzie) breaking rocks while they're in. BUT those damned well better be government rocks. Not some corporate f*ckhead's rocks who lobbied his local politicians to build more private prisons and subvert anti slavery laws so he can turn a buck selling his cheap prison labor broken rocks while private citizen/small business rock breakers/purveyors go out of business because they can't compete.

MY rocks! The rocks of the PEOPLE!!! We pay for those fookin' prisons!! I WANT MY BROKEN FREAKING ROCKS, ASSHOLES!!!!
 
2013-10-10 11:58:28 AM  

here to help: I don't have a problem with rapists, murderers, thieves, pedos, etc... (yanno REAL criminals who have proven they will consistently f*ck up everyone else's day if allowed to raom around free... not Johnny Pothead, or Drunkinthepark Mark or Can'tpayherfines Suzie) breaking rocks while they're in. BUT those damned well better be government rocks. Not some corporate f*ckhead's rocks who lobbied his local politicians to build more private prisons and subvert anti slavery laws so he can turn a buck selling his cheap prison labor broken rocks while private citizen/small business rock breakers/purveyors go out of business because they can't compete.

MY rocks! The rocks of the PEOPLE!!! We pay for those fookin' prisons!! I WANT MY BROKEN FREAKING ROCKS, ASSHOLES!!!!


cdn.bleacherreport.net
The People's Rock.
 
2013-10-10 11:59:10 AM  
As a former inmate, you make about 75$ a month max.Unless they split your job then you made about 40$ a month max, and that was for the highest paying jobs there, its not like they are making 40k a year.
 
2013-10-10 11:59:45 AM  
Are they doing the work? Yes? The. Pay them their farming money.
 
2013-10-10 11:59:52 AM  
Prison labor, slave labor, child labor, it's the American way. The American Corporation way for sure.
 
2013-10-10 12:01:13 PM  

90supraT: As a former inmate, you make about 75$ a month max.Unless they split your job then you made about 40$ a month max, and that was for the highest paying jobs there, its not like they are making 40k a year.


Damn.... that's farking terrible.
 
2013-10-10 12:02:10 PM  

Mad Tea Party: Are they doing the work? Yes? The. Pay them their farming money.


Sure, pay them in Farmville prizes.
 
2013-10-10 12:03:32 PM  

No Such Agency: well we can't blame the Chinese for terking our jerbs any more, now can we?


We never could. Blame any lying POS/retard who told you "Free" Trade was a good idea.

Tax the ever loving sh*t out of imports and put that money into social programs and helping domestic entrepreneurs/business hire locally. Either we'll force them to pay for us to sit on our asses (because there's nothing left to do) or give us our damned middle class back.
 
2013-10-10 12:05:09 PM  

FarkedOver: The People's Rock.


Is that a chick he's about to destroy? Damn, Rock. I thought you was cool?
 
2013-10-10 12:07:02 PM  

here to help: FarkedOver: The People's Rock.

Is that a chick he's about to destroy? Damn, Rock. I thought you was cool?


It's the People's Elbow, she must have had it coming.
 
2013-10-10 12:09:51 PM  
I dont mind prison labor if it benefits society say if they are building furniture that it is for schools or governement offices. Or if they are farming the food goes to the prison to offset food cost. Now paying them next to nothing and reaping huge profits from it like some corporations do is disgusting. I saw a doc on corporations doing this and they will go on and on how it helps the prisoner learn a trade etc. The interviewer asked him when the prisoners sentence is up do they keep them on at a greater wage. Much stammering and BSing after that.
 
2013-10-10 12:11:09 PM  

FarkedOver: It's the People's Elbow, she must have had it coming.


Well she is pretty fugly. Perhaps he was benevolently performing some form of cosmetic procedure to help the poor gal out.
 
2013-10-10 12:18:50 PM  

Loreweaver: LarryDan43: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.

I just wish this weren't true. It is where this country is headed. Soon, the vast majority of the population will be imprisoned, and forced to work for pennies per hour for the remainder of their lives.


No, you don't get it yet.
I landed at a southern american port.  At the tourist info area there was a man, kneeling, cutting grass with shears designed to trim grass.
I thought, if they used a mower he could be done in half an hour.  Then I realized, if they used a mower they would have to buy it, repair it, fuel it, store it, maintain it.  The man cutting grass, on his knees, was the epitome of a mower that had NONE of those needs.  The paid him a pittance and from that pittance he took care of his own storage, fuel, repairs, maintenance and when he wore out they got a newer person, again, at no cost.

It's called Economic Slavery and you're livin' it right now.  Why spend the money on prisons when people buy their own damn prisons in subdivisions.  You're shackled to that house payment for decades - only decades if everything goes right.  If anything goes wrong you're out in the street.
Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair and you'll begin to have a handle on the system you're living in.
 
2013-10-10 12:21:51 PM  

Marcintosh: Loreweaver: LarryDan43: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.

I just wish this weren't true. It is where this country is headed. Soon, the vast majority of the population will be imprisoned, and forced to work for pennies per hour for the remainder of their lives.

No, you don't get it yet.
I landed at a southern american port.  At the tourist info area there was a man, kneeling, cutting grass with shears designed to trim grass.
I thought, if they used a mower he could be done in half an hour.  Then I realized, if they used a mower they would have to buy it, repair it, fuel it, store it, maintain it.  The man cutting grass, on his knees, was the epitome of a mower that had NONE of those needs.  The paid him a pittance and from that pittance he took care of his own storage, fuel, repairs, maintenance and when he wore out they got a newer person, again, at no cost.

It's called Economic Slavery and you're livin' it right now.  Why spend the money on prisons when people buy their own damn prisons in subdivisions.  You're shackled to that house payment for decades - only decades if everything goes right.  If anything goes wrong you're out in the street.
Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair and you'll begin to have a handle on the system you're living in.


Socialist-like typing detected.

/I'm ok with that!
 
2013-10-10 12:22:09 PM  

groppet: I dont mind prison labor if it benefits society say if they are building furniture that it is for schools or governement offices. Or if they are farming the food goes to the prison to offset food cost. Now paying them next to nothing and reaping huge profits from it like some corporations do is disgusting. I saw a doc on corporations doing this and they will go on and on how it helps the prisoner learn a trade etc. The interviewer asked him when the prisoners sentence is up do they keep them on at a greater wage. Much stammering and BSing after that.


This is exactly it and what I meant by my metaphorical rocks rant. There are only so many license plates that can be stamped but why not set up auto shops, woodworking shops, welding shops, etc to build components for stuff we NEED like school furniture (as you suggested) or buses or ambulances or freaking walkers/wheelchairs for the disabled or or or or or... while at the same time giving them a chance to learn skills that might actually help them once they are released.

Most autobody, welding, carpentry, etc shops don't give a sh*t if you have a record or are covered in prison tats. They just want quality work. Also the fact trades oriented programs in high schools being slashed or discouraged are part of the reason many of these guys never went that route in the first place. Back in the day if you weren't all that booksmart or kind of a sh*thead those are the things the schools would encourage you (and had the resources to teach you) to do. Now it's all about training kids to be a fat f*ck stuck behind a computer 80 hours a week or a scuzzo corporate raider or a sh*tbag lawyer, etc.

Also a lot of these prison work mills get them doing telesales and sh*t. That is f*cking creepy IMO. I don't want some psycho knowing my name and possibly other personal details being the guy I hang up on because he's interrupting my fap time.
 
2013-10-10 12:24:15 PM  

Marcintosh: Loreweaver: LarryDan43: FarkedOver: Prisoners are the new slave labor. I thought everyone knew this.

Which is why non violent offenders often get longer sentences. They make better workers.

I just wish this weren't true. It is where this country is headed. Soon, the vast majority of the population will be imprisoned, and forced to work for pennies per hour for the remainder of their lives.

No, you don't get it yet.
I landed at a southern american port.  At the tourist info area there was a man, kneeling, cutting grass with shears designed to trim grass.
I thought, if they used a mower he could be done in half an hour.  Then I realized, if they used a mower they would have to buy it, repair it, fuel it, store it, maintain it.  The man cutting grass, on his knees, was the epitome of a mower that had NONE of those needs.  The paid him a pittance and from that pittance he took care of his own storage, fuel, repairs, maintenance and when he wore out they got a newer person, again, at no cost.

It's called Economic Slavery and you're livin' it right now.  Why spend the money on prisons when people buy their own damn prisons in subdivisions.  You're shackled to that house payment for decades - only decades if everything goes right.  If anything goes wrong you're out in the street.
Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair and you'll begin to have a handle on the system you're living in.


You're imprisoned in your own fatalistic attitude. But good news! Life is short.
 
2013-10-10 12:26:18 PM  

FarkedOver: Dr Jack Badofsky: Considering that it was their own transgressions(s) that put them in that position to begin with, I see no reason to "reward" anyone for breaking the law and costing taxpayers $30,000 - $50,000 / year to babysit them, violent or not.

You think everyone in prison deserves to be in prison?  Please read up on the war on drugs and get back to us.  Thanks.


last I knew, it was illegal in most states to possess certain mounts of pot, and any amounts of narcotics, especially with intent to distribute.  I don't do pot or narcotics, so too bad for whomever couldn't resist the urge to get high or traffic controlled substances that have no oversight of their ingredients and/or production methods to verify their safety.
 
2013-10-10 12:27:47 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: last I knew, it was illegal in most states to possess certain mounts of pot, and any amounts of narcotics, especially with intent to distribute. I don't do pot or narcotics, so too bad for whomever couldn't resist the urge to get high or traffic controlled substances that have no oversight of their ingredients and/or production methods to verify their safety.


Oh this should be good.

5.6/10
 
2013-10-10 12:30:06 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: FarkedOver: Dr Jack Badofsky: Considering that it was their own transgressions(s) that put them in that position to begin with, I see no reason to "reward" anyone for breaking the law and costing taxpayers $30,000 - $50,000 / year to babysit them, violent or not.

You think everyone in prison deserves to be in prison?  Please read up on the war on drugs and get back to us.  Thanks.

last I knew, it was illegal in most states to possess certain mounts of pot, and any amounts of narcotics, especially with intent to distribute.  I don't do pot or narcotics, so too bad for whomever couldn't resist the urge to get high or traffic controlled substances that have no oversight of their ingredients and/or production methods to verify their safety.


You keep on keepin on wit yo bad self.
 
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