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(Sportige)   Tony Romo is a walking conundrum, throwing fourth quarter interceptions left and right, but also having the best 4th quarter passer rating in NFL history and throwing less interceptions in clutch situations than many Super Bowl winning quarterbacks   (sportige.com) divider line 194
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2013-10-10 10:33:12 AM
Your headline is a conundrum & directly contradicts itself.
 
2013-10-10 10:34:05 AM
As an Eagles fan, I'm more worried about Romo than I am about RGIII or Eli Manning.
 
2013-10-10 10:35:34 AM
Because Jerruh
 
2013-10-10 10:37:59 AM
Fewer.
 
2013-10-10 10:39:08 AM

Twigz221: As an Eagles fan, I'm more worried about Romo than I am about RGIII or Eli Manning.


I think Bobby Threesticks could be really great if he can get out from under Dear Leader Snyder's oppressive regime.
 
2013-10-10 10:42:45 AM

Twigz221: As an Eagles fan, I'm more worried about Romo than I am about RGIII or Eli Manning.


I'd be me worried about the Vick/Foles/Barkley triumvirate if I were an Eagles fan.

Tony Romo is a very good quarterback. Unfortunately he plays behind a below average line and a defense that can be summed up as "DeMarcus Ware."

He led an offense that scored 48 points AND LOST. The problem with the Cowboys is clearly not Romo.

Lost Thought 00: Because Jerruh


There's the problem with the Cowboys.

I'd still like to see him and the Cowboys go 0-16 forever and ever though.

Hail To The Redskins!

/Snyder is a twat
//RGIII is broken
///Still believing.
 
2013-10-10 10:43:42 AM

Di Atribe: Twigz221: As an Eagles fan, I'm more worried about Romo than I am about RGIII or Eli Manning.

I think Bobby Threesticks could be really great if he can get out from under Dear Leader Snyder's oppressive regime.


I think it's more Shanan Jong Il than Snyder.
 
2013-10-10 10:46:04 AM
It's not always Romo. When you have an owner that is GM/Talent Scout/Coach/Waterboy/Parking lot attendant/Beer Vendor and a Mascot you arent going to be succesful. I blame it all on Jerry Jones. He is the problem with the cowboys. Romo might make some bonehead playes from time to time but I know 15 other franchises that would love Romo
 
2013-10-10 10:46:32 AM

Twigz221: As an Eagles fan, I'm more worried about Romo than I am about RGIII or Eli Manning.


You should probably be worried about your coach more than anyone.
 
2013-10-10 10:47:00 AM
It is a weird situation for Romo.  He does make errors, sure, but overall he usually performs pretty well.  With that said, I read this week that the Cowboys are 0-8 in the last 8 games where Romo throws a 4th quarter pick.

/This week's wasn't even mostly his fault though
//Escobar didn't flatten his route, allowing Trevathan to undercut, and the o-line FAILED against a 3 man rush
 
2013-10-10 10:47:38 AM
Subby: and throwing less interceptions

Fewer.
 
2013-10-10 10:49:33 AM
The problem is that he isn't clutch.  He is way down the list of QBs I would like to have on my team if we were 3 points down with 2 minutes left in the fourth, and we were starting at our own 20.  It's those areas he tends to blow it.

If the defense would actually, you know, play defense once in awhile and allow the Cowboys to keep a lead, then he is great.  Romo can be a great QB when the drive is just another drive in the game.
 
2013-10-10 10:51:28 AM
Fewer.
 
2013-10-10 10:58:04 AM
Here is a really good article that digs into this (abeit 2 years old, so, we don't have the most recent data)....
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/tony-romo-choke-artist- or -not/8831/

I think if you look at it even closer though... the games where he DID come back, they were teams that they shouldn't have had to come back from anyway.....

2006 Carolina (8-8)
2006 Giants (8-8)
2007 Buffalo (7-9)
2007 Detroit (7-9)
2008 Philly (9-6-1)
2008 Washington (8-8)
2009 KC (4-12)
2009 Philly (11-5)
2009 Washington (4-12)

So, there is the rub I think.... even when Romo DOES come back, he is coming back against fairly mediocre teams... only the 09 Eagles could be considered a "premiere" team that he had a come back drive against.   I am going to guess if you look at some of the other QBs (Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc).. who, yes, have similar percentages as the article suggests, you'd find that they have more comebacks vs. "premiere" teams.
 
2013-10-10 10:59:14 AM
Aggregating stats isn't really the answer.

Romo has a handful of specific situations where he has taken an almost certain victory, or a tied game, and turned it into a total failure.
 
2013-10-10 11:02:38 AM
the problem with Dallas is Jerruh, always has been always will be... dude is delusional and prevents the players he coddles with having more positive contribution to the team

see, players like Quarterbacks have these super high expectations - but at the end of the day they are who they are, so good coaches coach up players to excel at what they do well at and not try to do something they aren't good at and move on as a team... the Cowboys on the other hand operate like a team that likes to imagine what they're supposed to be, and then try really hard to fit that image... and then they wonder why coaches burn out

Romo's actually pretty good, but the Cowboys won't be going to a super bowl again as long as there's delusions of fantasy coming from the top down
 
2013-10-10 11:05:40 AM

dletter: So, there is the rub I think.... even when Romo DOES come back, he is coming back against fairly mediocre teams... only the 09 Eagles could be considered a "premiere" team that he had a come back drive against. I am going to guess if you look at some of the other QBs (Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc).. who, yes, have similar percentages as the article suggests, you'd find that they have more comebacks vs. "premiere" teams.


First of all, I'd love to see those stats from those "other" QBs that you consider to be quite good.

Second, I think after reading that paragraph, a much better question to ask is "Why are we having to come back against fairly mediocre teams?"
 
2013-10-10 11:10:27 AM

Di Atribe: Your headline is a conundrum & directly contradicts itself.


Like you didnt submit this.
 
2013-10-10 11:10:45 AM
Tony Romo is a walking conundrum extremely lucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjplYy_zT0Y

Most Romoesque play ever.
 
2013-10-10 11:10:46 AM

Dr. Frisbee: The problem is that he isn't clutch.  He is way down the list of QBs I would like to have on my team if we were 3 points down with 2 minutes left in the fourth, and we were starting at our own 20.  It's those areas he tends to blow it.



The concept of athletes being "clutch" is as much an illusion as "momentum" is. It's a meaningless, imaginary concept that isn't supported by statistics.
 
2013-10-10 11:12:07 AM
All I know is that I left 60 points on my bench when I really could have used them...
 
2013-10-10 11:12:15 AM
At least Cowboys fans aren't behaving like infidels...

img.fark.net
 
2013-10-10 11:13:14 AM

elguerodiablo: Di Atribe: Your headline is a conundrum & directly contradicts itself.

Like you didnt submit this.


Pffffffffffffffft AS IF I have time for this skullduggery.
 
2013-10-10 11:14:53 AM
maybe.... but he still Romo's himself into defeat in high-profile games.
 
2013-10-10 11:15:43 AM
ITT: People blurt out the shiat that the media tells them to and convince themselves the quarterback is the problem in a sport where 21 other offensive and defensive positions have to be filled.
 
2013-10-10 11:16:38 AM

Jubeebee: The concept of athletes being "clutch" is as much an illusion as "momentum" is. It's a meaningless, imaginary concept that isn't supported by statistics.


B-B-B-B-BUT MICHAEL JORDAN JUST WILLED HIS TEAMS TO WIN
 
2013-10-10 11:16:47 AM

irgunner: At least Cowboys fans aren't behaving like infidels...

[img.fark.net image 800x600]


What? No picture of the "fans" showing up at his house?
 
2013-10-10 11:17:38 AM
I think part of the perception issue with Romo is:

He's a very good QB. Stellar even. Partially because he has the athletic ability to have succes in forcing balls in situations he 'shouldn't', and avoid rushes/slip tackles he 'shouldn't' - if he were average.

But at times - particularly in crunch times - he tries to do too much. And the occasional bad results are multiplied.

It's possible to BOTH be a well above average QB AND make the mistake of pressing just a little TOO much - to try and so a little too much - in certain situations. He takes sacks he shouldn't because he often can break tackles - not a big deal in Q2, huge in T minus 2:00, etc.

I'd like to see stats on the last 5 min of close games too. No one cares if you're a damned football wizard in the first 13m of the fourth quarter but give the ball away like Oprah on a special in the last 2 of close games. (Not that I'm accusing Romo of being Oprah-esque, but just saying the 4th Q stat is near meaningless - 15m is a long time)
 
2013-10-10 11:19:26 AM
Hire a GM, Jerry, you cock!
 
2013-10-10 11:24:12 AM
scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net

Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.
 
2013-10-10 11:25:16 AM

Di Atribe: irgunner: At least Cowboys fans aren't behaving like infidels...

[img.fark.net image 800x600]

What? No picture of the "fans" showing up at his house?


Don't forgot the banners being hung from the freeway (610 I think) calling for Schaub to be benched
 
2013-10-10 11:26:16 AM

dletter: Here is a really good article that digs into this (abeit 2 years old, so, we don't have the most recent data)....
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/tony-romo-choke-artist- or -not/8831/

I think if you look at it even closer though... the games where he DID come back, they were teams that they shouldn't have had to come back from anyway.....

2006 Carolina (8-8)
2006 Giants (8-8)
2007 Buffalo (7-9)
2007 Detroit (7-9)
2008 Philly (9-6-1)
2008 Washington (8-8)
2009 KC (4-12)
2009 Philly (11-5)
2009 Washington (4-12)

So, there is the rub I think.... even when Romo DOES come back, he is coming back against fairly mediocre teams... only the 09 Eagles could be considered a "premiere" team that he had a come back drive against.   I am going to guess if you look at some of the other QBs (Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc).. who, yes, have similar percentages as the article suggests, you'd find that they have more comebacks vs. "premiere" teams.


Here's an article from this year from the same guy:  http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/nfl-myth-busting-tony-ro m o-and-the-dallas-cowboys-are-americas-chokers/23434/

Here is a list of all his 4th quarter comebacks:  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=R omoTo00">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cg i?player=R omoTo00

Romo is actually top 10 in winning percentage (or right around there) for 4th quarter comebacks, so that has to be worth something. I would much rather have Luck or Manning lead a last minute drive for me, but Romo isn't someone I'd turn my nose up at. He has had his fair share of failures, every NFL QB has in those scenario, but they just seem to be more spectacular because of the scenario.
 
2013-10-10 11:27:34 AM

The Madd Mann: [scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x405]

Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.


But the chicken was just so tasty

http://www.theonion.com/articles/tony-romo-regrets-eating-greasy-fri ed -chicken-duri,5553/
 
2013-10-10 11:28:22 AM

Deneb81: I think part of the perception issue with Romo is:

He's a very good QB. Stellar even. Partially because he has the athletic ability to have succes in forcing balls in situations he 'shouldn't', and avoid rushes/slip tackles he 'shouldn't' - if he were average.

But at times - particularly in crunch times - he tries to do too much. And the occasional bad results are multiplied.

It's possible to BOTH be a well above average QB AND make the mistake of pressing just a little TOO much - to try and so a little too much - in certain situations. He takes sacks he shouldn't because he often can break tackles - not a big deal in Q2, huge in T minus 2:00, etc.

I'd like to see stats on the last 5 min of close games too. No one cares if you're a damned football wizard in the first 13m of the fourth quarter but give the ball away like Oprah on a special in the last 2 of close games. (Not that I'm accusing Romo of being Oprah-esque, but just saying the 4th Q stat is near meaningless - 15m is a long time)


I don't know about the last two minutes, but Romo has a 4th quarter QB rating of 100 or so. That's got to be worth something.
 
2013-10-10 11:29:45 AM
5 come from behind game winning drives....in 2012. Led the NFL! The reason he blows so many critical late game, come-from-behind drives is because he faces more of them than most qbs, because his defense is ass.
 
2013-10-10 11:31:06 AM

The Madd Mann: Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.


As a sort of legacy Redskins fan (my moms family is, I didn't really follow the NFL or football much until the Ravens came to Baltimore) I laughed at that.

But really, what a stupid farking coaching move to have your tired, just been hit a few times QB, act as the ball holder when your punter and the entire rest of your special teams squad is just sitting on the sidelines.
 
2013-10-10 11:33:48 AM

Deneb81: The Madd Mann: Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.

As a sort of legacy Redskins fan (my moms family is, I didn't really follow the NFL or football much until the Ravens came to Baltimore) I laughed at that.

But really, what a stupid farking coaching move to have your tired, just been hit a few times QB, act as the ball holder when your punter and the entire rest of your special teams squad is just sitting on the sidelines.


It was seven years ago.
 
2013-10-10 11:34:12 AM

redmid17: Deneb81: I think part of the perception issue with Romo is:

He's a very good QB. Stellar even. Partially because he has the athletic ability to have succes in forcing balls in situations he 'shouldn't', and avoid rushes/slip tackles he 'shouldn't' - if he were average.

But at times - particularly in crunch times - he tries to do too much. And the occasional bad results are multiplied.

It's possible to BOTH be a well above average QB AND make the mistake of pressing just a little TOO much - to try and so a little too much - in certain situations. He takes sacks he shouldn't because he often can break tackles - not a big deal in Q2, huge in T minus 2:00, etc.

I'd like to see stats on the last 5 min of close games too. No one cares if you're a damned football wizard in the first 13m of the fourth quarter but give the ball away like Oprah on a special in the last 2 of close games. (Not that I'm accusing Romo of being Oprah-esque, but just saying the 4th Q stat is near meaningless - 15m is a long time)

I don't know about the last two minutes, but Romo has a 4th quarter QB rating of 100 or so. That's got to be worth something.


It's worth a 'moral victory'.

And a weeks worth of discussions of whether Romo is a choke artist or not.

Like I said, 4Q passer rating is not actually a meaningful statistic when discussing whether or not someone crumbles under do-or-die pressure.
 
2013-10-10 11:34:33 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-10 11:35:19 AM

Di Atribe: Deneb81: The Madd Mann: Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.

As a sort of legacy Redskins fan (my moms family is, I didn't really follow the NFL or football much until the Ravens came to Baltimore) I laughed at that.

But really, what a stupid farking coaching move to have your tired, just been hit a few times QB, act as the ball holder when your punter and the entire rest of your special teams squad is just sitting on the sidelines.

It was seven years ago.


And a different coach.

Romo was still one of if not the only QB still holding PATs.

It was a stupid coaching decision.
 
2013-10-10 11:35:24 AM

AdamK: the problem with Dallas is Jerruh, always has been always will be... dude is delusional and prevents the players he coddles with having more positive contribution to the team

see, players like Quarterbacks have these super high expectations - but at the end of the day they are who they are, so good coaches coach up players to excel at what they do well at and not try to do something they aren't good at and move on as a team... the Cowboys on the other hand operate like a team that likes to imagine what they're supposed to be, and then try really hard to fit that image... and then they wonder why coaches burn out

Romo's actually pretty good, but the Cowboys won't be going to a super bowl again as long as there's delusions of fantasy coming from the top down


This
 
2013-10-10 11:39:04 AM

Deneb81: redmid17: Deneb81: I think part of the perception issue with Romo is:

He's a very good QB. Stellar even. Partially because he has the athletic ability to have succes in forcing balls in situations he 'shouldn't', and avoid rushes/slip tackles he 'shouldn't' - if he were average.

But at times - particularly in crunch times - he tries to do too much. And the occasional bad results are multiplied.

It's possible to BOTH be a well above average QB AND make the mistake of pressing just a little TOO much - to try and so a little too much - in certain situations. He takes sacks he shouldn't because he often can break tackles - not a big deal in Q2, huge in T minus 2:00, etc.

I'd like to see stats on the last 5 min of close games too. No one cares if you're a damned football wizard in the first 13m of the fourth quarter but give the ball away like Oprah on a special in the last 2 of close games. (Not that I'm accusing Romo of being Oprah-esque, but just saying the 4th Q stat is near meaningless - 15m is a long time)

I don't know about the last two minutes, but Romo has a 4th quarter QB rating of 100 or so. That's got to be worth something.

It's worth a 'moral victory'.

And a weeks worth of discussions of whether Romo is a choke artist or not.

Like I said, 4Q passer rating is not actually a meaningful statistic when discussing whether or not someone crumbles under do-or-die pressure.


Then you can read the articles I linked to earlier. He is top 10 in win % for 4th quarter comebacks and is 12th for game winning drives.
 
2013-10-10 11:41:29 AM

redmid17: dletter: Here is a really good article that digs into this (abeit 2 years old, so, we don't have the most recent data)....
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/tony-romo-choke-artist- or -not/8831/

I think if you look at it even closer though... the games where he DID come back, they were teams that they shouldn't have had to come back from anyway.....

2006 Carolina (8-8)
2006 Giants (8-8)
2007 Buffalo (7-9)
2007 Detroit (7-9)
2008 Philly (9-6-1)
2008 Washington (8-8)
2009 KC (4-12)
2009 Philly (11-5)
2009 Washington (4-12)

So, there is the rub I think.... even when Romo DOES come back, he is coming back against fairly mediocre teams... only the 09 Eagles could be considered a "premiere" team that he had a come back drive against.   I am going to guess if you look at some of the other QBs (Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc).. who, yes, have similar percentages as the article suggests, you'd find that they have more comebacks vs. "premiere" teams.

Here's an article from this year from the same guy:  http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/nfl-myth-busting-tony-ro m o-and-the-dallas-cowboys-are-americas-chokers/23434/

Here is a list of all his 4th quarter comebacks:  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=R omoTo00">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cg i?player=R omoTo00

Romo is actually top 10 in winning percentage (or right around there) for 4th quarter comebacks, so that has to be worth something. I would much rather have Luck or Manning lead a last minute drive for me, but Romo isn't someone I'd turn my nose up at. He has had his fair share of failures, every NFL QB has in those scenario, but they just seem to be more spectacular because of the scenario.


I looked at that list earlier in the week. It's pretty meaningless - not just for Romo but in general.

ANY game where the team was behind during the 4Q counts - which isn't really useful as a stat for discussion of 'choker' status like people try to label Romo.

Example: in one of those games it was something like a 35-14 victory over a Panthers that hadn't scored since 1Q. The boys started 4Q down 13-14 and scored a rushing TD early in the quarter.

Not exactly a 'down to the wire' game - it was 2 scores difference by the time the end of the game was close. Not exactly illustrative of a last-minute-come-from-behind-crunch-time-clutch-cliche-reference performance.
 
2013-10-10 11:45:06 AM

Deneb81: Di Atribe: Deneb81: The Madd Mann: Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.

As a sort of legacy Redskins fan (my moms family is, I didn't really follow the NFL or football much until the Ravens came to Baltimore) I laughed at that.

But really, what a stupid farking coaching move to have your tired, just been hit a few times QB, act as the ball holder when your punter and the entire rest of your special teams squad is just sitting on the sidelines.

It was seven years ago.

And a different coach.

Romo was still one of if not the only QB still holding PATs.

It was a stupid coaching decision.


IIRC, he was the backup quarterback when the season started & they didn't want to change holders mid-season.

/and now I'm white-knighting farking Parcells and Romo. Thanks a lot, dork.
 
2013-10-10 11:48:12 AM
let me know when he makes plays in the playoffs
 
2013-10-10 11:53:42 AM

Deneb81: redmid17: dletter: Here is a really good article that digs into this (abeit 2 years old, so, we don't have the most recent data)....
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/tony-romo-choke-artist- or -not/8831/

I think if you look at it even closer though... the games where he DID come back, they were teams that they shouldn't have had to come back from anyway.....

2006 Carolina (8-8)
2006 Giants (8-8)
2007 Buffalo (7-9)
2007 Detroit (7-9)
2008 Philly (9-6-1)
2008 Washington (8-8)
2009 KC (4-12)
2009 Philly (11-5)
2009 Washington (4-12)

So, there is the rub I think.... even when Romo DOES come back, he is coming back against fairly mediocre teams... only the 09 Eagles could be considered a "premiere" team that he had a come back drive against.   I am going to guess if you look at some of the other QBs (Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc).. who, yes, have similar percentages as the article suggests, you'd find that they have more comebacks vs. "premiere" teams.

Here's an article from this year from the same guy:  http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/nfl-myth-busting-tony-ro m o-and-the-dallas-cowboys-are-americas-chokers/23434/

Here is a list of all his 4th quarter comebacks:  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=R omoTo00">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cg i?player=R omoTo00

Romo is actually top 10 in winning percentage (or right around there) for 4th quarter comebacks, so that has to be worth something. I would much rather have Luck or Manning lead a last minute drive for me, but Romo isn't someone I'd turn my nose up at. He has had his fair share of failures, every NFL QB has in those scenario, but they just seem to be more spectacular because of the scenario.

I looked at that list earlier in the week. It's pretty meaningless - not just for Romo but in general.

ANY game where the team was behind during the 4Q counts - which isn't really useful as a stat for discussion of 'choker' status l ...


I mean I will just steal this line from someone I follow on twitter, what you're looking for is an overfetishization of a small, statistically insignificant sample size.

Just read this:  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3392">http://www.pro-fo otball-reference.com/blog/?p=3392

It's by the guy who wrote the article I linked to. He writes for PFR, FO, CHFF, and a few other sites. It does a pretty good job of explaining why what you're looking for doesn't really exist and why it shouldn't matter anyway.
 
2013-10-10 11:55:40 AM

macadamnut: Deneb81: Di Atribe: Deneb81: The Madd Mann: Interceptions aren't the only way he loses games.

As a sort of legacy Redskins fan (my moms family is, I didn't really follow the NFL or football much until the Ravens came to Baltimore) I laughed at that.

But really, what a stupid farking coaching move to have your tired, just been hit a few times QB, act as the ball holder when your punter and the entire rest of your special teams squad is just sitting on the sidelines.

It was seven years ago.

And a different coach.

Romo was still one of if not the only QB still holding PATs.

It was a stupid coaching decision.

IIRC, he was the backup quarterback when the season started & they didn't want to change holders mid-season.

/and now I'm white-knighting farking Parcells and Romo. Thanks a lot, dork.


I'll repeat - dumb decision.

They had plenty of time to switch holders. He started 10 games that year.
 
2013-10-10 11:56:39 AM

LucklessWonder: Tony Romo is a very good quarterback. Unfortunately he plays behind a below average line and a defense that can be summed up as "DeMarcus Ware."


Ware's 'Stinger' is destroying the Dallas pass rush.  In fact, Dallas, which has an open roster spot, is thinking of signing Stinger to replace Doug Free.
 
2013-10-10 12:01:24 PM
Thanks for the link to the comeback data at  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

So, adding in the newer games to what I looked up:
2006 Carolina (8-8)
2006 Indy (12-4)
2006 Giants (8-8)
2007 Buffalo (7-9)
2007 Detroit (7-9)
2008 Philly (9-6-1)
2008 Washington (8-8)
2009 KC (4-12)
2009 Philly (11-5)
2009 Washington (4-12)
2011 SF (13-3)
2011 Washington (Twice) (5-11)
2011 Miami (6-10)
2012 Carolina (8-8)
2012 Cleveland (5-11)
2012 Philly (4-12)
2012 Cincy (10-6)
2012 Pittsburgh (8-8)

So, Romo gets SF & Cincy as "quality" comebacks (and Indy was somehow left out in 2006)... so, that is 4 out of his 19 comebacks as being against "quality" teams.

Rodgers...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player =R odgAa00
Only 9 comebacks... granted, mostly against "poor" teams... but, he's only had to do it 9 times, vs. 15 for Romo in the same timespan... and certainly GB has a better record over the last 5 years than Dallas, so, obviously, the Packers have not been in position where they have to "come back" nearly as much as Dallas.

Brady....
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player =B radTo00
A lot more, and most against quality teams (including 3 Super Bowls).

Manning....
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player =M annPe00
A lot, not as many quality as Brady, but, more than Romo for sure.

Other Manning....
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player =M annEl00
Quite a few, including "DAL" more than a few times.

And of course, we don't see the "failures" in these lists.
 
2013-10-10 12:02:32 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: LucklessWonder: Tony Romo is a very good quarterback. Unfortunately he plays behind a below average line and a defense that can be summed up as "DeMarcus Ware."

Ware's 'Stinger' is destroying the Dallas pass rush.  In fact, Dallas, which has an open roster spot, is thinking of signing Stinger to replace Doug Free.


Romo's line actually grades out pretty well this year - especially compared to the last few seasons.
 
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