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(NPR)   Obama's Tea Party second cousin is running for the Senate. WHAR DIVISON BY ZERO FUNCTION WHA+++CARRIER LOST+++   (npr.org) divider line 65
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2013-10-10 11:18:02 AM
Another Republican gets eaten by his own.  The party is going to need to do away with open primaries and start hand picking their candidates, like in the good ol' days.
 
2013-10-10 11:18:45 AM
Pat Roberts is getting a primary challenge for being too liberal? The guy must think Mussolini and Pinochet were filthy communists.
 
2013-10-10 11:18:59 AM
We all have relatives like that.
 
2013-10-10 11:20:23 AM
FTFA: The Roberts campaign released a statement last night touting the high ratings the senator has received from conservative groups like Heritage Action, Americans for Prosperity and the National Rifle Association.

But the Senate Conservatives Fund, which has targeted Republicans it views as insufficiently conservative, signaled last month that Roberts will need to watch his right flank.


So what exactly *is* "righter" than that? Do I want to know?
 
2013-10-10 11:20:40 AM
So the guy is batshait crazy enough to write for the Moonie Times but might not be batshait crazy enough for conservative organizations? Wow!
 
2013-10-10 11:21:56 AM

TofuTheAlmighty: Pat Roberts is getting a primary challenge for being too liberal? The guy must think Mussolini and Pinochet were filthy communists.


Yes they think that.  Somehow thanks to Goldberg Tea Partiers believe Fascism and Communism are the same thing.
 
2013-10-10 11:22:56 AM
Wow Subby. Honestly, I don't see this as "amusing"

FTA:
"Most of you know that President Barack Obama and I are cousins," Wolf said Like I've said before, you cannot choose your family but you can choose to rise up and stop your family from destroying America."

Aside from the fact that Tea Party people don't really want an America (they want a Failed State and NO govt)--Thanksgivings for this guy must be awful, unless of course Subby thinks this a normal family dynamic?
 
2013-10-10 11:23:07 AM

Devo: We all have relatives like that.


We all have close family relatives like that, imagine the second tier.
 
2013-10-10 11:23:54 AM

Sneakernets: FTFA: The Roberts campaign released a statement last night touting the high ratings the senator has received from conservative groups like Heritage Action, Americans for Prosperity and the National Rifle Association.

But the Senate Conservatives Fund, which has targeted Republicans it views as insufficiently conservative, signaled last month that Roberts will need to watch his right flank.

So what exactly *is* "righter" than that? Do I want to know?


Soon they will have to start personally driving around the poor parts of town knocking food out of hungry children's hands just to show how right wing they are.

/or maybe hire a bunch of illegal immigrants to do it for them
 
2013-10-10 11:23:54 AM

Devo: We all have relatives like that.


Indeed. I don't find them "amusing" either :(
 
2013-10-10 11:24:43 AM
What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?
 
2013-10-10 11:24:56 AM

Orange-Pippin: Wow Subby. Honestly, I don't see this as "amusing"

FTA:
"Most of you know that President Barack Obama and I are cousins," Wolf said Like I've said before, you cannot choose your family but you can choose to rise up and stop your family from destroying America."

Aside from the fact that Tea Party people don't really want an America (they want a Failed State and NO govt)--Thanksgivings for this guy must be awful, unless of course Subby thinks this a normal family dynamic?


I'm not too worried. It shouldn't take much for Obama to "rise up and stop" this moron from destroying America.
 
2013-10-10 11:25:35 AM
So they are about as related as me and Kevin Bacon.
 
2013-10-10 11:26:37 AM
Oh good, I was beginning to think this state might stop short of political prisoner camps and mandatory Christian schooling.
 
2013-10-10 11:27:49 AM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


Shut up nerd!
 
2013-10-10 11:32:21 AM
It's almost as if he enjoys the fame of being distantly related as long as he can use that fame for personal gain. Once Kansans find out that somebody in the family 'went behind the wood shed', this guy is toast. I am glad to see the GOP reaching out by offering a fine African-American candidate like Wolf.
 
2013-10-10 11:33:25 AM

riverwalk barfly: So they are about as related as me and Kevin Bacon.


MMMMM, bacon.

droolingHomer.jpg
 
2013-10-10 11:34:34 AM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


As much as I love unfettered geekery (and pedantry), you sound like a blanket wetter than the shame- puddles a still-drunk John Boehner wakes up to every morning. I suggest a new fun occupation, maybe open a bar and grill, you know, learn to talk to people.

So I guess the question is: What would you do for Klom Dark bar?
 
2013-10-10 11:35:26 AM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


No, division by zero is not infinity, division by zero is undefined. It's not "problematic", it's a direct contradiction.

If x / 0 = infinity, then infinity * 0 = x. Clearly an absurd result.
 
2013-10-10 11:36:05 AM
Have we seen this guy's birth certificate?
 
2013-10-10 11:36:52 AM

JusticeandIndependence: Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?

Shut up nerd!


oops, that should be multiplication by infinity is not allowed.

I think it's some kind of conspiracy to make us brainwashed into being unable to do math of the type that would lead to realizing "oh, duh, free unlimited zero point energy is a basic function of time/space" and then the oil companies would be obsolete.
 
2013-10-10 11:42:43 AM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


If you think about it logically, multiplication by zero makes perfect sense while divison by zero doesn't.

Zero, seven times still equals zero because no matter how many "times" you have nothing, you still have nothing.

However, a problem occurs when you divide by zero. Seven in one part is 7; in other words it is a whole seven. Seven in zero parts = ?; in other words, there is not a way we can quantify that concept using arthmetic. If an object is an integer, then it must have an absolute value, which is defined by its distance from "nothing." You cannot logically divide something into nothing parts because it is not an integer, it is a concept from which integers derive their value.
 
2013-10-10 11:43:31 AM
Whats infinity times infinity? Or infinity to the power of infinity?
 
2013-10-10 11:43:57 AM

qorkfiend: Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?

No, division by zero is not infinity, division by zero is undefined. It's not "problematic", it's a direct contradiction.

If x / 0 = infinity, then infinity * 0 = x. Clearly an absurd result.


Saying x / 0 = undefined is a cheap way to solve the problem with our mathematical system. That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.

The true question is why IS the reverse incomprehensible? Just remember the obvious: There is no spoon
 
2013-10-10 11:46:54 AM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-10 11:47:03 AM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-10-10 11:47:04 AM

Summercat: Whats infinity times infinity? Or infinity to the power of infinity?


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-10-10 11:47:32 AM
How does he know he is related to Obama?  Has he verified BOB's birth certificate?
 
2013-10-10 11:47:47 AM

UrukHaiGuyz: Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?

As much as I love unfettered geekery (and pedantry), you sound like a blanket wetter than the shame- puddles a still-drunk John Boehner wakes up to every morning. I suggest a new fun occupation, maybe open a bar and grill, you know, learn to talk to people.

So I guess the question is: What would you do for Klom Dark bar?


lolol :D
 
2013-10-10 11:50:01 AM

Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.


I'm not trying to solve any problems; I'm pointing out that, by the laws of mathematics, your assertion implies that infinity times zero equals something other than zero. Do you have any sort of similar logical proof to support your assertion, other than claiming it's "inherently true"?
 
2013-10-10 11:50:33 AM

Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true


"Feel it in your gut" != inherently true
 
2013-10-10 11:55:51 AM
FTFA: Like I've said before, you cannot choose your family but you can choose to rise up and stop your family from destroying America.

I try every day.... maybe if I just smothered them in their sleep.

Seriously, my entire step-family has a combined IQ that makes Forrest Gump look like a genius.
 
2013-10-10 11:56:27 AM

hugram: Summercat: Whats infinity times infinity? Or infinity to the power of infinity?


Sadly i have no clue what thats from :(
 
2013-10-10 11:56:42 AM

qorkfiend: Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.

I'm not trying to solve any problems; I'm pointing out that, by the laws of mathematics, your assertion implies that infinity times zero equals something other than zero. Do you have any sort of similar logical proof to support your assertion, other than claiming it's "inherently true"?


Since someone else used 7 as an example, lets go with 7:

Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7...
 
2013-10-10 11:59:42 AM
Never saw a math troll before.
 
2013-10-10 12:01:21 PM
Roberts is playing right into this guy's hand.  He can't out-conservative him so why does he even bother trying?
 
2013-10-10 12:03:29 PM

Klom Dark: qorkfiend: Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.

I'm not trying to solve any problems; I'm pointing out that, by the laws of mathematics, your assertion implies that infinity times zero equals something other than zero. Do you have any sort of similar logical proof to support your assertion, other than claiming it's "inherently true"?

Since someone else used 7 as an example, lets go with 7:

Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7...


You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number, which is why it's undefined.

Also, anecdote > laws of mathematics and algebra. Lol.
 
2013-10-10 12:05:59 PM

Klom Dark: How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity


And at the end you're going to have a full hole, eh.  OK
 
2013-10-10 12:09:13 PM

cranked: Klom Dark: How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity

And at the end you're going to have a full hole, eh.  OK


That's what she said...
 
2013-10-10 12:20:57 PM

qorkfiend: Klom Dark: qorkfiend: Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.

I'm not trying to solve any problems; I'm pointing out that, by the laws of mathematics, your assertion implies that infinity times zero equals something other than zero. Do you have any sort of similar logical proof to support your assertion, other than claiming it's "inherently true"?

Since someone else used 7 as an example, lets go with 7:

Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7...

You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number, which is why it's undefined.

Also, anecdote > laws of mathematics and algebra. Lol.


So, you concur: "You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number"

And then you fall right into the mind trap with "which is why it's undefined.". Dammit, you were almost there...

Not believing the rules are ordained truth are why i have made a lot of money over the years setting up data encryption for a number of "Top. Companies."

Math is not a religion and should not be treated as such. Question everything. It's only a scientific theory, and parts will be disproved and improved as time goes by... Math seems to always be true, but our system of expressing mathematical concepts has some mistakes in it, mostly very elusive.
 
2013-10-10 12:34:44 PM
Obama's grandmother was his mother's cousin, meaning Obama and Wolf are second cousins once removed. He adds that their mothers were childhood friends in Wichita.

But..white!  But...Kenya!  But...Derp!
 
2013-10-10 12:35:11 PM
How did we get a sci.math crank from 1994 shiatting up a threat about the Tea Party?
 
2013-10-10 12:37:17 PM
Not too many people know this, but Obama's got a half-brother who almost cost him the election in '08.
 
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2013-10-10 12:44:11 PM

offmymeds: Not too many people know this, but Obama's got a half-brother who almost cost him the election in '08.


www.biography.com
 
2013-10-10 12:46:57 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: How did we get a sci.math crank from 1994 shiatting up a threat about the Tea Party?


I'm going for an effect like a smart SkinnyHead, just call me FatHead or ThickHead ;)

// Don't plonk me bro.
// i usually don't do this, just the divide by zero nonsense has never sat comfortably with me as an effective explanation of why it's not allowed
 
2013-10-10 12:54:36 PM
Does subby think political affiliation is genetic? Has he never attended a holiday dinner?
 
2013-10-10 12:59:35 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: How did we get a sci.math crank from 1994 shiatting up a threat about the Tea Party?


And he's not even as entertaining as Archimedes Plutonium was. :(
 
2013-10-10 01:11:49 PM

Summercat: Or infinity to the power of infinity?


There are multiple degrees of infiinity. The lowest of the size of the set of natual numbers (also the size of the set of intigers and rational numbers) 2^ that Infinity is the next degree of infinity which is the size of the set of Real numbers. So Infinity ^ Infinfity = the next degree of Infinity. (studied pure Math in University, only reason I do not have a degree is my school would not give me 2 B.Sc.'s)
 
2013-10-10 01:26:02 PM

Summercat: hugram: Summercat: Whats infinity times infinity? Or infinity to the power of infinity?

Sadly i have no clue what thats from :(


It is a scene from the movie 'White men can't jump'. Here is there little script of it...

Rosie - How much do you love me?

Woody - I love you infinity.

Rosie - That's not enough.

Woody - Infinity's the biggest number there is.

Rosie - It's not.

Woody - What's bigger?

Rosie - Infinity plus two.

Woody - I love you infinity plus two.

Rosie - Billy. you're so stupid! You should have said infinity plus infinity.

Woody - I love you Infinity plus infinity.

Rosie - There's a bigger number than that.

Woody - I give up.
 
2013-10-10 01:31:49 PM

Klom Dark: qorkfiend: Klom Dark: qorkfiend: Klom Dark: That anything divided by nothing is infinity is inherently true, even if the reverse does not make sense.

I'm not trying to solve any problems; I'm pointing out that, by the laws of mathematics, your assertion implies that infinity times zero equals something other than zero. Do you have any sort of similar logical proof to support your assertion, other than claiming it's "inherently true"?

Since someone else used 7 as an example, lets go with 7:

Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7...

You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number, which is why it's undefined.

Also, anecdote > laws of mathematics and algebra. Lol.

So, you concur: "You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number"

And then you fall right into the mind trap with "which is why it's undefined.". Dammit, you were almost there...

Not believing the rules are ordained truth are why i have made a lot of money over the years setting up data encryption for a number of "Top. Companies."

Math is not a religion and should not be treated as such. Question everything. It's only a scientific theory, and parts will be disproved and improved as time goes by... Math seems to always be true, but our system of expressing mathematical concepts has some mistakes in it, mostly very elusive.


No one said math is a religion; in fact, you're the one asking for something akin to religious belief, since you're demanding that people accept something as "inherently true" without any proof. It's not my fault you don't understand the foundational concepts of algebra and are thus unprepared to apply them yourself; perhaps you should study a bit more.
 
2013-10-10 01:39:24 PM

qorkfiend: No one said math is a religion


but is religion a math???

He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.
-1 Kings 7:23
 
2013-10-10 01:45:20 PM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


But zero divided by anything is zero, right? So what's 0/0, then?
 
2013-10-10 01:50:49 PM
Anything times zero is zero, so:

OBAMA x 0 = 0

and POTATO x 0 = 0

Therefore: OBAMA x 0 = POTATO x 0

Divide both sides by 0 and we get:

OBAMA = POTATO

QED. It's simple math people. Study it out!
 
2013-10-10 01:51:16 PM
Media logic:

Obama's cousin is in the Tea Party. Therefore, Obama is wrong about everything, and if this guy gets elected, that will mean Americans reject the Obama agenda.
 
2013-10-10 01:57:50 PM

Orange-Pippin: Devo: We all have relatives like that.

Indeed. I don't find them "amusing" either :(


Yeah, I have to call mine "mom".
 
2013-10-10 02:02:57 PM

Fart_Machine: So the guy is batshait crazy enough to write for the Moonie Times but might not be batshait crazy enough for conservative organizations? Wow!


This is a fact. It's a hard-to-believe fact, but it's a fact.
 
2013-10-10 02:14:35 PM

Klom Dark: So, you concur: "You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number"

Klom Dark: Just the divide by zero nonsense has never sat comfortably with me as an effective explanation of why it's not allowed


Being the same is another way of saying "equal".
 "Fitting into" is another way of saying "less than or equal".
Your examples are always 0, which is always "less than"

You are abusing the "or equal" part of "fitting into" to falsely equate two things that are NOT the same.
 
2013-10-10 02:17:19 PM
This site always puts these sorts of things well.
 
2013-10-10 02:24:34 PM

cranked: Klom Dark: So, you concur: "You can fit infinite quantities of nothing into any number"
Klom Dark: Just the divide by zero nonsense has never sat comfortably with me as an effective explanation of why it's not allowed

Being the same is another way of saying "equal".
 "Fitting into" is another way of saying "less than or equal".
Your examples are always 0, which is always "less than"

You are abusing the "or equal" part of "fitting into" to falsely equate two things that are NOT the same.


0 is always Less Than?

So 0 is less than -1?

Or in Boolean algebra false (0) is always less than true (1)?

// I'm not the one who brought "integer" into the conversation
 
2013-10-10 02:28:12 PM
Division is repeated subtraction. You count the number of times you can subtract the number before reaching zero or going negative.

So when you divide by zero, you are attempting to count the number of times you can subtract zero. Which isn't infinity. It's an undefined number because all of the intermediate steps are degenerate. If the answer were truly infinity, then you would HAVE to do it infinity times. But I can subtract 5 times, or subtract a billion, and get the same answer. When any answer fits, it's not infinite, it's undefined.
 
2013-10-10 02:29:40 PM

Klom Dark: Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7


My understanding is that 7 is an integer.

I understand that you're playing word games for fun, but you also expressed a curiosity regarding the subject.  My fault for forgetting this was Fark.
 
2013-10-10 02:57:38 PM

Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?


Positive infinity or negative infinity? If you take the limit on the positive or negative side as it approaches zero you get two completely results on the opposite sides of the number line. Thus 0 would have to be both positive and negative infinity at the same time, which makes no sense. Whichever way you cut it, division by 0 doesn't make mathematical sense.
 
2013-10-10 03:01:34 PM

cranked: Klom Dark: Dig a hole that is 7 cubic meters. Now dump a handful of nothing in that hole. How many handfuls of nothingness does it take to fill that hole? Infinity (or Endless Loop) handfuls. Ergo, you can fit infinite quantities of nothing into 7

My understanding is that 7 is an integer.

I understand that you're playing word games for fun, but you also expressed a curiosity regarding the subject.  My fault for forgetting this was Fark.


Thanks for the above link - I've always been one of those "why?" guys, which drove my algebra teachers nuts. Until that article, i have never had any other person agree that the concept of infinity was simply a construct, it's always been some faith based response like "Well infinity is infinity, you dumb shiat" which always made me think i was considered stupid. Which befuddled me as i knew i understood more advanced mathematical concepts. Applied calc I've found easy, boolean algebra i found basic. Soon as i saw Lambda expressions it made complete sense, same with set theory. I always was able to take a story problem and find the answer way easier than just "here's an expression, solve for x" questions. Never got why understanding E=MC^2 or calculating the surface area of the ringworld were considered proof of someone being extra smart. But throw me in a typical algebra class, even these days, and I'm still stuck at "what's the point of this shiat, just tell me why?" Still to this day i know past of my problem is i learned programming at age 7 back in the 1970s and x=x+1 made perfect sense to me yet would throw a non programmer algebra teacher into an angry tizzy about that being illogical nonsense. ( That's what i had to put up with in 7th grade, an angry impatient teacher who would not consider the notion which made me disregard it as "fark this shiat, bunch of assholes in algebra")
 
2013-10-10 03:13:21 PM

Gwyrddu: Klom Dark: What's this problem with dividing by zero anyway? Anything divided by zero is infinity. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The only reason it's not allowed is because the reverse would prove "problematic", so why not just say that multiplication by zero is not allowed rather than shutting down dividing by zero?

Positive infinity or negative infinity? If you take the limit on the positive or negative side as it approaches zero you get two completely results on the opposite sides of the number line. Thus 0 would have to be both positive and negative infinity at the same time, which makes no sense. Whichever way you cut it, division by 0 doesn't make mathematical sense.


I'm not sure how to answer that, my brain seems fine with recognizing 0 as a symbol for nothingness with special rules for handling it based on context. Perhaps it doesn't make "mathematical sense" but it makes sense in a physical reality (or metaphysical sense? using that word more like metadata rather than in its " of the gods/outside human understanding" sense).

In a set of both positive and negative values, to infinity both ways, then it's a simple midpoint between both infinities.

Maybe the difference between mathematically proving something versus being able to simply calculate an answer is where we disagree?
 
2013-10-11 03:47:52 AM
Unavailable for comment, because he's in the ground a couple blocks down the street.

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