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2013-10-10 10:22:23 AM
impliment?

school want to?
 
2013-10-10 10:26:52 AM

calbert: impliment?

school want to?


Apparently subby never got accepted into college.
 
2013-10-10 10:43:34 AM

RedPhoenix122: calbert: impliment?

school want to?

Apparently subby never got accepted into college.


He may have been exepted into collage, though.
 
2013-10-10 10:48:32 AM
Fark want to implement subby grammar yes headline. Or "Hello, I am caught sayof"
 
2013-10-10 10:49:10 AM
Is our children learning?
 
2013-10-10 10:49:57 AM
I thought it was trendy to motivate students by having high expectations of them.
 
2013-10-10 10:50:22 AM

bambi121899: Is our children learning?


Apparently not.
 
2013-10-10 10:51:15 AM

lizyrd: RedPhoenix122: calbert: impliment?

school want to?

Apparently subby never got accepted into college.

He may have been exepted into collage, though.


Not quite a rotsky but close enough.
 
2013-10-10 10:52:11 AM
www.cooperimplement.com
 
2013-10-10 10:52:31 AM

GilRuiz1: I thought it was trendy to motivate students by having high expectations of them.


Motivate them to get thousands of dollars of insoluble debt, you mean.
 
2013-10-10 10:52:36 AM
Is our childrens impliminting collage?
 
2013-10-10 10:52:56 AM
Does community colege count or is that just considered more high school?
 
2013-10-10 10:53:30 AM
Since there are colleges that will admit literally anyone who has completed high school, I don't think this will be much of a challenge. It cost a bunch of students application fees and a bunch of time and frustration, though.
 
2013-10-10 10:53:37 AM

"The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

The new requirement would start with the graduating class of 2017.

The school board will hold a final vote on the measure in two months, but it is expected to pass. "


I think it's a good idea, though the cynic in me can see a bunch of applications from this HS flooding DeVry U or University of Phoienix (yea fees!). Maybe the school can have some kind of career classes or something similar more helpful?

 
2013-10-10 10:54:13 AM
Why does subby think this is "stupid"?
 
2013-10-10 10:54:21 AM

cptjeff: It will cost a bunch of students application fees and a bunch of time and frustration, though.


It clear i went to collage.
 
2013-10-10 10:54:56 AM
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
 
2013-10-10 10:55:28 AM
An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.


Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?
 
2013-10-10 10:58:10 AM

tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?


Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?
 
2013-10-10 10:58:58 AM
I school books to seven times thank you!
 
msP
2013-10-10 10:59:07 AM
At my high school, we had a 100% college attendance rate every year. If you decided you didn't want to go to college, they put your name in the Baccalaureate program and the word "undecided" next to it.

Funny thing is, every single student I graduated with started their first day at college, but I'd say a good 20% didn't finish their first semester...
 
2013-10-10 11:00:16 AM
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Going through the application process is one thing, but to require that they be accepted is quite another.  Is there a limit on how many rejections you can have before you can just stop applying?  What if I'm the worst student in the school and decide to have the school district cover all of my application fees to every Ivy League school?  Oh, I couldn't get into those, I'll try Stanford next.
 
2013-10-10 11:02:01 AM

pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?


Fill out the 1 page application for your local JuCo, get your diploma, join the military.
 
2013-10-10 11:02:23 AM
Your mom goes to college
 
2013-10-10 11:02:40 AM
The title and article are in conflict. Do you have to apply or do you actually have to be accepted?

Requiring that they be accepted is a horrible idea, because you're basing whether or not the student graduates on what other people do.

Not to mention that, even if they are just requiring that the student apply, they'll be clogging up the colleges with applications from people who have no intention of going.
 
2013-10-10 11:04:25 AM

pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?


Or, if you plan on attending a trade school, or go directly not apprenticeship, start a business, join an existing family business, start a band, ....
 
2013-10-10 11:05:13 AM

spmkk: Why does subby think this is "stupid"?


Not everyone needs college for their career plan.
 
2013-10-10 11:08:09 AM
It couldn't be that the school district wants to be able so say "100% of our students are accepted into colleges or trade schools upon graduation" could it?

Poke around.  I bet you'll find some incentive or bonus money tied to the percentage of graduates who meet that criterion.
 
2013-10-10 11:08:27 AM

tricycleracer


So why is this stupid?


'Stupid' is a bit harsh, but it seems a bit excessive to make acceptance a graduation requirement.

I would rather see this be a one-credit requirement for everyone during the junior year of high school. Everyone would get the same information and practice, and people who apply to undergrad programs and trade schools will all benefit. The mock applications should be evaluated by high school staff rather than outsourcing it to third parties.
 
2013-10-10 11:09:28 AM
What an Oregon college may look like:

www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov

/it's freaking everywhere
//Oregonian
 
2013-10-10 11:16:02 AM

pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?


Apply at West Point, then.
 
2013-10-10 11:17:00 AM

pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?


Applying to, but not attending, college prohibits you from joining the military?  That is very interesting to find out.
 
2013-10-10 11:17:51 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Or, if you plan on attending a trade school, or go directly not apprenticeship, start a business, join an existing family business, start a band, ....


Again, how does applying to college prevent any of those actions?
 
2013-10-10 11:18:10 AM
My high school has always had a requirement like this, you either applied to college or you completed a vocational course of study while in high school and got a certificate in welding or nursing or auto mechanics or something.  If you didn't want to do either, you just applied to the local community college so you could graduate HS.  Actually attending the college was not required.

The vocational school was a great thing.  You only had to take high school English and math in the mornings, then walk across campus to your vocational training for the rest of the day.  Seniors were given work-release to intern at local business.  My high school was in a very rural, very poor area of Virginia, and we had a very low drop out rate thanks to the vocational program.
 
2013-10-10 11:19:15 AM
I agree that it is a worthwhile exercise to fill out a college or trade school application, regardless of a student's life plans. I do not think acceptance into an institution should be required, although I could be convinced. If you are graduating from high school, you should be able to get accepted somewhere, anywhere, for something, or else you may not have completed the minimum requirement to graduate high school. The US Army has an application process, and I believe they have a pretty low bar, but they do require a high school diploma or equivalent nowadays.

A mock application process wouldn't carry the same weight as the real thing. Why not send kids to a mock high school? I guess that's called Texas.
 
2013-10-10 11:19:26 AM

tricycleracer: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Fill out the 1 page application for your local JuCo, get your diploma, join the military.


Why?  What value did this application add to this individual?
 
2013-10-10 11:20:24 AM
To me, this falls into the same category as 'life skills'.  All students should know how to apply to college, apply to a job, participate in an interview, manage your finances, understand credit and banks, know about health insurance, etc.  I would heartily support a life skills class that was a graduation requirement that included these topics.
 
2013-10-10 11:21:37 AM

pueblonative: Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?


West Point and the Naval Academy count as college and it should be super easy to apply for them since they mail you the application and call you repeatedly at home when you have shown zero interest beyond taking their stupid ASVAB test which you old took to ditch class... same reason you joined the soccer team actually...
 
2013-10-10 11:23:27 AM

Magnus: tricycleracer: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Fill out the 1 page application for your local JuCo, get your diploma, join the military.

Why?  What value did this application add to this individual?


None.
 
2013-10-10 11:25:16 AM
"What we teach is worth nothing on its own, so here's an obstacle in your path and oh, take our advice on your future ..."

Why the fark would you even bother to go to such a no-win crap institution?
 
WGJ
2013-10-10 11:25:53 AM
Big Education, how many ways can they think of to keep sucking on the tit of the government.
 
2013-10-10 11:28:20 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Or, if you plan on attending a trade school, or go directly not apprenticeship, start a business, join an existing family business, start a band, ....


You still apply and not have to attend. It is not a policy that is making you go to college. It is a policy that is making you fill out an application to go to college. And seeing that the school said it would fund the application fee (when I applied it was $25 the most). There is not real reason not to simply apply.

/attended Collage as well. And it was a party collage too!
 
2013-10-10 11:29:21 AM
Fixing the headline is for biatches. Should've left it, mod.

/not getting over it.
//ever
 
2013-10-10 11:42:13 AM

Dr Jack Badofsky: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Or, if you plan on attending a trade school, or go directly not apprenticeship, start a business, join an existing family business, start a band, ....


If you cant afford the application, the school provides grant money to cover it so what's the big deal? The experience can alert students to the possibilities for when their businesses fail or crappy bands dissolve.
 
2013-10-10 11:49:51 AM
Instead of filling out applications for college, the school should make sure the students can properly fill out applications with local fast food establishments. 2 years of advanced high school is not a requirement to wear a paper hat. However, in 2 years a real go getter could find his/herself in line for that assistant to the asistant night manager position.
 
2013-10-10 11:53:36 AM

elysive: Dr Jack Badofsky: pueblonative: tricycleracer: An Oregon school district wants to set a new graduation requirement for students to get their diplomas.
Students would be required to get accepted to a college or trade school.

Let's keep reading!

The principal of Corbett High School says the students wouldn't have to follow through and attend the school - he simply wants this to be a lesson in the application process.

Going through an application process is a good life lesson.  Best case, a student who thinks "I'll never get into college" gets accepted and their life changes for the better.

If a student can't afford any application fees, the school has grants that will cover the cost.

Well, that removes any financial hurdles.


So why is this stupid?

Uh, let's say you want to go to the military after high school?

Or, if you plan on attending a trade school, or go directly not apprenticeship, start a business, join an existing family business, start a band, ....

If you cant afford the application, the school provides grant money to cover it so what's the big deal? The experience can alert students to the possibilities for when their businesses fail or crappy bands dissolve.


It's an arbitrary requirement that adds no real value to a person's education. If they want their students to learn about the process, they should teach it as part of a class as opposed to requiring the students to send application fees to schools they have no interest in attending.
 
2013-10-10 11:58:15 AM

spmkk: Why does subby think this is "stupid"?


Because at current, roughly half of all high school graduates apply to colleges. And a percentage of them are turned away due to overcrowding.

Now, imagine that EVERY student applied. With colleges already turning students away due to overcrowding, roughly half of the school population will not be able to graduate under the new rules, no matter how good their grades are.

So, half the school will be forced to FAIL.
 
2013-10-10 12:00:58 PM
Don't have money for books but we'll pay for collage apps to schools they have no intention of going to.
 
2013-10-10 12:01:00 PM
I received a post-grad degree.  However I have strong reservations against forcing an adult (18+) to opt into an elective to complete a requirement.  K-18 is mandatory (sure you can drop out, but you get it).  College, vocational school etc. is an elective, you don't HAVE to go.  To add a requirement is overstepping the bounds of the school board.  They have jurisdiction over you until you get that piece of paper, after that they have no hold over the student.  College is what happens after that diploma.  I think it's BS.  What if I want to take a few years off before going to university?  I had some friends that did just that and are highly successful.
 
2013-10-10 12:02:59 PM

Mr. Breeze: It's an arbitrary requirement that adds no real value to a person's education. If they want their students to learn about the process, they should teach it as part of a class as opposed to requiring the students to send application fees to schools they have no interest in attending.


That was what my school did. We had to apply to a college to earn a grade. It was a pretty large percent of the class grade too. So technically, it was a requirement to graduate as well as if you failed that, you pretty much failed the semester. This class also taught how to deal with single and family finances.
 
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