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(Daily Mail)   Government shutdown got your national monuments looking a little run down? Have no fear, Lawnmower man is here   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 163
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2013-10-10 04:56:04 AM

seek3r: Because such things have been done *every* time the govt shuts down.


Stop right there!

No. It. Has. Not. Been. Done. Every. Time. The. Government. Has. Shut. Down. In. The. Past.

That was my point. No other government shutdown has purposely shut down things that cost nothing (or next to nothing if you prefer) to keep open, much less things that actually make them money by being open. It's the antithesis of the reason to close them (we cannot pay the people to do the job) when they not only make money but aren't even on the governments dime to operate safely. That place has zero reliance on the federal government (aside from anyone else in general of course) to keep themselves in business. That was my point. It was done only because it could be done for the purpose of hurting people who had no say in the matter. That is just spiteful and petty vindictive behavior that I might expect to see from a petulant pre-teenaged brat, not from the US government.

Again. There is no safety issue here. The access is from of a city street that is still open and you can drive down right now. The parking is on a city street with city parking meters. The city provides fire and police protection. All utilities are provided by the city. The city does the health inspections. The NPS does nothing to assist or protect the day to day operations of the place. Yet they closed it down putting the non-government workers there (that would be all of them by the way, there are no government workers there) out of a job while a business less than 50 yards away doing the exact same thing that they did is open for business and doing just fine.

Do you see the problem yet?

They are simply trying to bring the pain to as many people that they can to make a point and for me the point that they are making is showing that they are petty, vindictive people who simply don't care about the plebes when they get in the way of their temper tantrum. I get closing national parks, I really do. Lawnmower man isn't going to do much there aside from becoming bear fodder at some point, but this isn't that and pretending that it is doesn't help your argument at all. If anything it shows your partisanship and makes it harder in the long run to fix the problems that we have.

See, at the end of the day we all are in this together. Left, right, gay, straight, religious, atheist, male, female and so on. We all have to be able to work together no matter what. Children do what this administration is doing right now, It's called a temper-tantrum. Kicking and screaming while being hauled to the bathtub (or whatever). It's not pretty but you expect it from immature kids, not from adults who should know better. I will add that both sides are doing this so don't think for a minute that I'm taking sides. Both sides have their issues on this but only one is intentionally bringing on the pain to the people in this fight.
 
2013-10-10 07:58:16 AM

formerfloozy: nickerj1: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.

Sorry dude, the furlough paperwork I received was very explicit on thay point. No volunteering or showing up until recalled. I do work overtime without compensation sometimes, 8 hours just ain't enough to get it all done somedays.


And that furlough paperwork is just your agency's management intimidating you from coming in.

The agency, as an organization (and therefore management), can't "accept" your voluntary services.  They don't "accept" your voluntary services by:  1) sternly warning employees that voluntary work during a shutdown is unacceptable; and 2) taking a disciplinary action against employees who voluntarily work during a shutdown.

I'm saying if management was all "wink wink, nudge nudge" about it, you can have your 5000 furloughed employees volunteer during the entire shutdown and then everyone receive a letter of counseling or reprimand that expired after 12 months.

They aren't going to fire their entire agency if they all come in and volunteer.
 
2013-10-10 08:30:22 AM

ElLoco: buckler: quislings

I had to Google it. My first thought was small sub sandwiches.


I thought it was the proper name for these unholy abominations...

adweek.blogs.com
 
2013-10-10 09:14:40 AM
Nice to see the Republican's plan of further destroying the government/economy so they can pin it on Obama has had the extra benefit of furthering their other agenda of turning us all into gleeful slaves.

Seriously? Now everyone is supposed to work for free? Anyone with a job should be fired?

WTF is wrong with you lemmings? Who gives a sh*t about the damned parks? This is all just to distract from the fact the shutdown is wrecking the already fragile economy and outright WASTING a sh*tload of taxpayer money... for NOTHING. Obamacare is happening no matter what.

I used to give republican voters the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps they just weren't paying attention. Perhaps they truly believed that the GOP was interested in saving money and upholding the principals the country was founded on. But after the past few years and now this? Naw man... ya'll are either mentally ill, incredibly stupid or just plain evil.

Piss off, the lot of ya.
 
2013-10-10 09:16:14 AM
And the most HILARIOUS part is Obamacare is a freaking CLONE of what Romney was gonna do! Fookin' idiots.
 
2013-10-10 10:07:55 AM

Radioactive Ass: They are simply trying to bring the pain to as many people that they can to make a point and for me the point that they are making is showing that they are petty, vindictive people who simply don't care about the plebes when they get in the way of their temper tantrum.


Based solely on the photos I've seen of the disappointed, would-be park visitors, most of them probably voted for the people who brought this on all of us. So if a few dozen tea partiers have to roll their medicare-paid-for hoverrounds back out of a closed park, that's just them reaping what they sowed.
 
2013-10-10 10:25:04 AM
I know it says a downed tree,

but was he the one that cut it down in the first place? Just asking.
 
2013-10-10 10:43:02 AM
ah the battle cry of the poor, maligned employees on the government teat
"I want to work but can't!"
obviously, this city has been ignoring those cries from millions of americans for the last several years
blame the repubs for forcing the issue
blame the dems for making the situation critical
blame yourself for allowing these idiots to rule you
 
2013-10-10 11:40:37 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: The government is a stallion.


Again,
hidden messages in the art at the Denver Airport, I guess

i.imgur.com

/I bet the Bronies did this!
 
2013-10-10 12:40:17 PM

here to help: And the most HILARIOUS part is Obamacare is a freaking CLONE of what Romney was gonna do! Fookin' idiots.


Yes, but now a brown person has said it, and that makes it bad.
 
2013-10-10 01:07:56 PM

nickerj1: formerfloozy: nickerj1: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.

Sorry dude, the furlough paperwork I received was very explicit on thay point. No volunteering or showing up until recalled. I do work overtime without compensation sometimes, 8 hours just ain't enough to get it all done somedays.

And that furlough paperwork is just your agency's management intimidating you from coming in.

The agency, as an organization (and therefore management), can't "accept" your voluntary services.  They don't "accept" your voluntary services by:  1) sternly warning employees that voluntary work during a shutdown is unacceptable; and 2) taking a disciplinary action against employees who voluntarily work during a shutdown.

I'm saying if management was all "wink wink, nudge nudge" about it, you can have your 5000 furloughed employees volunteer during the entire shutdown and then everyone receive a letter of counseling or reprimand that expired after 12 months.

They aren't going to fire their entire agency if they all come in and volunteer.


You never ever want to do thibgs tgat put letters of reprimand in your file.

Ever. It just gives supervisors the power to use those to fire individuals for other reasons and cite the letter as the cause.

Which effectively gives them an end run around the very protections people are paying the afge union for.
 
2013-10-10 03:31:55 PM

Lt_Ryan: Barricaded Gunman: dittybopper: If this guy could do it, then they could do it also

Sure, let's try and turn this into a gripe against those damn furloughed workers, refusing to work for free while an assload of Republican millionaires continue to draw pay for f#cking up the country.

However the furloughed workers will be paid for the time they were furloughed. Sure they will be without a paycheck for a while but in the end they have been given a paid holiday. I'm not sure about anyone else but if I was paying someone to do a job and they didn't and expected pay anyway I'd be pissed. Not at the workers but at the management, what is the point of the furlough if they will get paid anyway it doesn't save any money.


Do you have a citation for that?  Last I heard about it, they were considering passing some legislation to that effect, but it wasn't a done deal.

Doesn't really make any sense anyway.  Why furlough the workers if you plan to pay them anyway?  Actually, given what our government typically does, that makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-10-10 09:40:04 PM

Radioactive Ass: seek3r: Because such things have been done *every* time the govt shuts down.

Stop right there!

No. It. Has. Not. Been. Done. Every. Time. The. Government. Has. Shut. Down. In. The. Past.

That was my point. No other government shutdown has purposely shut down things that cost nothing (or next to nothing if you prefer) to keep open, much less things that actually make them money by being open. It's the antithesis of the reason to close them (we cannot pay the people to do the job) when they not only make money but aren't even on the governments dime to operate safely. That place has zero reliance on the federal government (aside from anyone else in general of course) to keep themselves in business. That was my point. It was done only because it could be done for the purpose of hurting people who had no say in the matter. That is just spiteful and petty vindictive behavior that I might expect to see from a petulant pre-teenaged brat, not from the US government.

Again. There is no safety issue here. The access is from of a city street that is still open and you can drive down right now. The parking is on a city street with city parking meters. The city provides fire and police protection. All utilities are provided by the city. The city does the health inspections. The NPS does nothing to assist or protect the day to day operations of the place. Yet they closed it down putting the non-government workers there (that would be all of them by the way, there are no government workers there) out of a job while a business less than 50 yards away doing the exact same thing that they did is open for business and doing just fine.

Do you see the problem yet?

They are simply trying to bring the pain to as many people that they can to make a point and for me the point that they are making is showing that they are petty, vindictive people who simply don't care about the plebes when they get in the way of their temper tantrum. I get closing national parks, I really do. Lawnmower ...


Yes, you are lgnorant about the past.
 
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