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2013-10-09 11:14:49 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lot of fuss over TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.


You cannot be serious.  Veterans memorials are tourist attractions?  Silly me- all along I thought they were to HONOR VETERANS.  National Parks- tourist attractions?  Here I thought they were places US CITIZENS could travel to in order to revel in this place we call the US.

These places represent our history, and what led us to where we are now.  I'm not proud of where we are now, but I sure as hell won't forget to honor our past before leaders screwed us up so badly.
 
2013-10-09 11:14:54 PM  

ajgeek: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Farking REALLY!? FFS we have some stupid laws and laws that were applied really, really badly.

/why is "politician" a FARKING DAY JOB!?


It's in the Constitution.

Article 1, Section 6
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.
 
2013-10-09 11:16:04 PM  
Hey - this guy's great! I like the way he thinks! Perhaps when this shutdown's over we could create some sort of service department for our national parks. We can train people in the history of these treasures, and hire real professionals like him to keep and maintain them. Bet they'd be real tourist magnets too, and such a boon to the economy!

But aw, that's just crazy talk. There's no way the GOP would go for such a Big Gov't program like that.
 
2013-10-09 11:16:13 PM  
That's why Detroit is so beautiful. The government failed and the people stepped up. Not a bit of graffiti or urban decay in sight.

I'm sure this guy will continue maintaining the site on a regular basis and not just as a solitary stunt.
 
2013-10-09 11:17:32 PM  

Cynicism101: relcec: The longer this *shutdown* goes on for, the more it looks like we had Tammany Hall running this nation all along.

If any other sector in the economy had one million people or one third of its workforce stop coming to work suddenly one day and never come back I think couple hundred million people would notice pretty quick.

But the federal government furloughs one million people and one third of its workforce and if the John Stewart wasn't vamping and if you didn't already have a trip planned to national monument that is roped off for no reason just like 98% of population you couldn't have a clue.

How about this, bring back the 20k parks people, the 1k FDA inspectors, and the few dozen that process passport applications and then fire the 975,000 others.

Really? You don't need the US Geological Service?? Have fun with that next earthquake.


We don't need volcano monitors either.
 
2013-10-09 11:17:44 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Karma Chameleon: Is it just me, or is the whole national parks/monuments aspect of the shutdown getting way too much attention? I don't understand the abundance of coverage on these things. Yeah, it sucks. But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.

It's because it highlights the petty and vindictive nature of this administrations policies who is doing their best to make it hurt when it doesn't have to. It's quite clear to most people that they will allow things that they want or like (immigration rally on the national mall which was supposed to be closed for example) while closing open air memorials. This is just another tic mark on a long list of petty closings and actions by the NPS and their desire to make it hurt by any means necessary and to make it as public as possible.


Reality check: the parks and such get closed in every govt shutdown. The only way this is about this particular administration is that the right wing desperately wants it to be. You want to scream about the peculiarity of govt that it ally costs money to shutdown then have fun, but recognize it's the way it works, not the administration being biatchy, eh?
 
2013-10-09 11:19:21 PM  

gweilo8888: llevrok: Not reported by Obama's quislings we call the American press.

Yep, not at all:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/citizen-lawn-mower-at-lincoln-me mo rial-also-blows-leaves-and-cuts-up-downed-branches/2013/10/09/0383e710 -3120-11e3-89ae-16e186e117d8_story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/man-mows-lincoln-memorial_n _4 072665.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/09/231073855/to-help-dur in g-shutdown-man-mows-lawn-around-lincoln-memorial

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57606793/amid-government-shutdow n- one-man-memorial-militia-cleans-up-national-mall/

Ah, fark it. You know what? Do it yourself, you lazy SOB.

https://www.google.com/search?q="chris+cox"&oq="chris+cox"#q=%22chri s+ cox%22&safe=off&tbm=nws


Give him a break he already learned a new word today and tried to use it as a slight against the media.

The fact that he used it incorrectly should tell you he is at max capacity for learning today. Try again tomorrow before his Glenn Beck "Word Of the Day To Piss Off Dirty Libs" email reaches his in box
 
2013-10-09 11:19:37 PM  
I first met Chris 4 years ago while I was playing music in Charleston, SC. He was a big fan of the band I was playing with, and while he came across as absolutely crazy from the get go, after months/years of getting to know and understand him, I have found him to be one of the most genuine persons I know. Y has a passion for life and adventure, and a humble, self-sacrificing spirit that I wish we could all understand better. This is not a publicity stunt, and he's not in it for the fame or fortune (those of you who might know him know that he doesn't crave those things). He is a simple man with a profound mind and spirit, and I am proud to call him my friend and fellow American.
 
2013-10-09 11:19:57 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: gweilo8888: ArcadianRefugee: You got that last URL wrong. Here: [Link]

Actually, I got it right. (Add a www. to google.com/search?q="chris+cox"&oq="chris+cox"#q=%22chris+cox%22&sa fe=off&tbm=nws and see for yourself.) Just Fark's retarded filters stripped it on submit.

But thanks anyway.

I was meaning more you should have given him the lmgtfy link instead of the straight Google one. Sorry.

machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

*Sigh* I meant for his post, not yours.

/obviously out of sorts tonight, so I'll just sign off


Probably me.
 
2013-10-09 11:20:28 PM  

formerfloozy: Sorry dude, the furlough paperwork I received was very explicit on thay point. No volunteering or showing up until recalled. I do work overtime without compensation sometimes, 8 hours just ain't enough to get it all done somedays.


I don't doubt this. However having some random citizen mow the lawn and take out the trash on their own dime  isn't the same thing. I recently watched the guys from a local halfway house weed the sidewalk next to the local high school. No issues at all and it looked better to boot, something that needed to be done but they never bothered with.

That YOU are prevented is not a point of issue. That regular citizens ARE is a point of issue. Unless you are saying that I cannot pick up litter when I visit federal property (and I am totally guilty of that on more than one occasion) then it's completely stupid to stop this person from doing it simply because the government is "Closed".

/apparently a part of their 12 step program involving giving back
//they weren't stopped from doing it
 
2013-10-09 11:21:18 PM  

chaoticcrash: goatleggedfellow: asynchron: Now I wish I lived around DC... Awesome chance for a demonstration. Get a bunch of people out doing yardwork like this. Responsible citizens doing what their elected officials won't... Taking care of the country. No partisan message, no finger pointing any more specific than that. Just a general message that elected officials have failed by letting things get to this point.

You do have a message: I will work for free to hurt paid laborers.

You won't hurt the politicians, you will just be another talking point for them. You WILL hurt other people with jobs by giving up your free time with your family to work more for free.

Do you understand the free market? You work to get paid. You get paid for doing work. Pride is all nice, comrade, but free labor isn't going to create jobs or save this country.

You know what?  Even here on Fark- it's about time to call BS.  Those furloughed workers will get paid back pay- it's how our convoluted system works.  Work for free?  Is someone giving this guy fuel, supplies and expenses?  Is the brutal truth that he is paying himself to step up and take care of things?  In my humble opinion, he is demonstrating real heroism.  He isn't trying to be personal, just realistic.

All BS aside- this one man is quietly stepping up.  Many of us Americans who simply want a government for the people and by the people again- this guy found a way.  Find whatever fault you want to- the fact remains that with more people like him, those asshats leading this country will become obsolete.

Why should our leaders really care?  What is their motivation?  They get salaries FOR LIFE.  Shut down the country, cut 'non essential' services, (essential is such a relative word, after all) when the day ends- congress gets paid.  Federal workers will get back pay.  Why SHOULD they care if death benefits for Veterans are suspended and those who die in combat can't be properly buried?  They will all go to sleep tonight well fed, well housed and comfortable.

Call him what you will, mock him, and spout your crap.  It's a free country, right?  Oh, wait- those freedoms we believe we have?  Is anyone on duty to ensure them?  Or are those 'defending' us actually busy standing guard around those irresponsible asshats who can't get along?

*disgusted*


Please tell me you weren't painting federal workers with the same "don't give a shiat about death benefits and veterans" brush that you just tarred our leadership with. I, and many of my co-workers, are veterans. I also work for the military as well, so it does matter to me and I am not chortling and rubbing my hands in glee while this continues.

I am not getting paid right now, and am fine with receiving pay later, but I still have to buy gas and groceries. I am a single mom, so platitudes don't fill my kids bellies. Stop minimizing the fact that federal employees are wage slaves too. I HAVE to work for a living and I sure as hell don't get six figures to do it. If I read you wrong, I apologize. Otherwise choke on the same dick as dittybopper.
 
2013-10-09 11:23:40 PM  
I think its time to revisit the existence of the National Park Service.
 
2013-10-09 11:23:44 PM  

ShawnDoc: relcec: tell me what you are terrified of please. I'll try to help you throw this Apocalypse.

I need help getting my import permits.  No import permits, no importing the stuff I need to sell.  My customers don't get the product they need to sell.  Their customers don't get the stuff they want.


Find a domestic product to sell.
 
2013-10-09 11:24:44 PM  

BSABSVR: Largely it's a liability issue. He empties a trash can, throws out his back and sues.


Complete BS and you know it. Show me the legions of lawsuits where people doing unsanctioned voluntary work on government lands sue for injuries and win. They don't exist.
 
2013-10-09 11:25:30 PM  
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-10-09 11:25:33 PM  

BSABSVR: TheTurtle: I am actually unsure what regs the National Park Service could cite as far as barring private citizens from voluntarily helping out, and personally, I think the cordoning-off of monuments in DC is a publicity move on the part of DOI execs, but...

Largely it's a liability issue.  He empties a trash can, throws out his back and sues.


you can't sue for that. federal workers who are working and federal workers who are volunteering on department mission related shiat are covered by a federal workers comp system called FECA that mirrors the state ones you are probably more familiar with.

I imagine the issue is there is hypothetical possibility they won't get paid for this time off when they come back, and while that is an event incredibly unlikely to occur, it would create a massive problem if it did occur because many people *volunteering* would undoubtedly be promised by their supervisors and otherwise have a reasonable expectation they would be paid for their performance while volunteering.

an extremely unlikely event that would have devastating consequences if it occurred. like a 8 mile long asteroid hitting cape hatteras for government lawyers.
 
2013-10-09 11:25:50 PM  

ElLoco: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also,  thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

It's hard to make a point when people are willing to do the job without compensation. We "CAN'T" have that happening, now can we?


Lawnmower man might be able to.  The people formerly paid to do it CAN'T do it legally.

31 USC § 1342

Can't

And even lawnmower man himself might be covered there too if he claims to be doing a job voluntarily.  Now saying "I just felt like mowing some grass, and this was convenient" is different
 
2013-10-09 11:26:47 PM  

ladyfortuna: Karma Chameleon: But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.

Sure, if you want to live in a community that just builds grey concrete block structures and treats everyone like worker bees with no value (because fark their opinions). That sounds like FUN.


I should have clarified - secondary concerns during the shutdown. But even then, I'd rather the hundreds of millions funneled into the NEA, NEH and CPB go toward some of the lower rungs of Maslow's hierarchy. I'm not opposed to having a cultured, creative society - in fact I would love that. But there's more important shiat to deal with first.
 
2013-10-09 11:27:12 PM  

llevrok: Not reported by Obama's quislings we call the American press.


Ah, "quislings": The Free Republic Derp of the Day, despite the fact that 90% don't know what it means.
 
2013-10-09 11:29:34 PM  

ShawnDoc: relcec: tell me what you are terrified of please. I'll try to help you throw this Apocalypse.

I need help getting my import permits.  No import permits, no importing the stuff I need to sell.  My customers don't get the product they need to sell.  Their customers don't get the stuff they want.


Wouldn't you rather just have your national parks open?

I mean relcec already explained to you that no one but a couple of people that planned vacations have noticed a thing about the shutdown so, you pretending that you have some sort of actual need of the government is clearly wrong.

I mean he said it quite clearly "But the federal government furloughs one million people and one third of its workforce and if the John Stewart wasn't vamping and if you didn't already have a trip planned to national monument that is roped off for no reason just like 98% of population you couldn't have a clue."

So, you don't really need those permits and the stark reality is you wouldn't have even noticed if no one said anything.
 
2013-10-09 11:30:08 PM  

seek3r: Reality check: the parks and such get closed in every govt shutdown. The only way this is about this particular administration is that the right wing desperately wants it to be. You want to scream about the peculiarity of govt that it ally costs money to shutdown then have fun, but recognize it's the way it works, not the administration being biatchy, eh?


You cut off my pure example of doing exactly what you claim doesn't happen. Who is in the wrong here? Spin is a bad thing M'Kay. Never before was that place closed duing these budget battles. Mainly because it had zero impact. This time it was. Ask yourself why and get back to me. Wear your big boy pants when you answer.
 
2013-10-09 11:30:15 PM  

buckler: quislings


I had to Google it. My first thought was small sub sandwiches.
 
2013-10-09 11:32:46 PM  

buckler: llevrok: Not reported by Obama's quislings we call the American press.

Ah, "quislings": The Free Republic Derp of the Day, despite the fact that 90% don't know what it means.


Quislings=wannbe zombies, right?

/jk, calling the press traitors for not reporting on lawnmower man is a bit far fetched, doncha think?
 
2013-10-09 11:37:50 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: And even lawnmower man himself might be covered there too if he claims to be doing a job voluntarily. Now saying "I just felt like mowing some grass, and this was convenient" is different


Seeing as he's not looking for compensation that I can see it might fall under the "Forrest Gump" clause of doing it because he liked to do it.

\there is no Forrest Gump clause but you get my meaning right?
 
2013-10-09 11:38:26 PM  

ElLoco: buckler: quislings

I had to Google it. My first thought was small sub sandwiches.


You get a free cup of soup if you order extra treason.
 
2013-10-09 11:40:53 PM  

Cynicism101: Really? You don't need the US Geological Service?? Have fun with that next earthquake.


I don't think the National Weather Service launches their own weather satellites either...
 
2013-10-09 11:44:10 PM  

AndreMA: Cynicism101: Really? You don't need the US Geological Service?? Have fun with that next earthquake.

I don't think the National Weather Service launches their own weather satellites either...


It's all good. I've been assured by top men at the GOP that we don't need NOAA either, because we can look up all that information on Google.
 
2013-10-09 11:45:19 PM  

chaoticcrash: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lot of fuss over TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.

You cannot be serious.  Veterans memorials are tourist attractions?  Silly me- all along I thought they were to HONOR VETERANS.  National Parks- tourist attractions?  Here I thought they were places US CITIZENS could travel to in order to revel in this place we call the US.


Exactly. TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.
 
2013-10-09 11:45:36 PM  

HMWMatt: I first met Chris 4 years ago while I was playing music in Charleston, SC. He was a big fan of the band I was playing with, and while he came across as absolutely crazy from the get go, after months/years of getting to know and understand him, I have found him to be one of the most genuine persons I know. Y has a passion for life and adventure, and a humble, self-sacrificing spirit that I wish we could all understand better. This is not a publicity stunt, and he's not in it for the fame or fortune (those of you who might know him know that he doesn't crave those things). He is a simple man with a profound mind and spirit, and I am proud to call him my friend and fellow American.


Then my apologies for judging him harshly.
 
2013-10-09 11:48:08 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: chaoticcrash: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lot of fuss over TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.

You cannot be serious.  Veterans memorials are tourist attractions?  Silly me- all along I thought they were to HONOR VETERANS.  National Parks- tourist attractions?  Here I thought they were places US CITIZENS could travel to in order to revel in this place we call the US.

Exactly. TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.


Or, you know, places set aside to preseve and protect our natural resources and wildlife. These are tourist attractions.
 
2013-10-09 11:54:44 PM  
I expect him to show up tomorrow and the next day and the next day.  Also, if it's raining, also to pick up the trash, also some sweeping is in order, also so some regular maintenance and inspection of the electrical system also to open up and run some of the attractions including answering questions from tourists.. also..
 
2013-10-09 11:58:05 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: I was meaning more you should have given him the lmgtfy link instead of the straight Google one. Sorry.


No apology needed. I'd have gotten the joke, if Fark hadn't munged my link up. :-)

IamTomJoad: Give him a break he already learned a new word today and tried to use it as a slight against the media.

The fact that he used it incorrectly should tell you he is at max capacity for learning today. Try again tomorrow before his Glenn Beck "Word Of the Day To Piss Off Dirty Libs" email reaches his in box


L. O. LOUD.
 
2013-10-09 11:59:35 PM  
I'm just going to assume all the people spouting the idiotic comments about how this shows we could replace government employees are just trolling.  No one could seriously be dumb enough to believe even a small portion of government services could be run on a "garsh, I hope some volunteers decide to show up this week" basis.

Just kidding, I know there are plenty of people stupid enough to actually believe that.
 
2013-10-10 12:01:47 AM  

mrlewish: I expect him to show up tomorrow and the next day and the next day.  Also, if it's raining, also to pick up the trash, also some sweeping is in order, also so some regular maintenance and inspection of the electrical system also to open up and run some of the attractions including answering questions from tourists.. also..


He said he has been on a mission to spruce up the lawns, trees and trash bins near America's grandest memorials before the weekend, because a 'Million Vet March' event is expected to bring scores of retired servicemen and women to the nation's capital.

But whatever.
 
2013-10-10 12:02:58 AM  
I am government employee currently furloughed, and would rather be working right now.  Really.  I was thrilled to fill my gas tank as my bank account is almost gone, so I guess I will be doing the credit card thing until this mess is over.

Since we are getting back pay anyway, why can't the government float a no-interest loan to all workers to cover their paychecks?  Just pay off the loan when the gov is back in business and everyone is happy.

I'm sure when I sober up that will not seem as logical as it does now.
 
2013-10-10 12:18:08 AM  

Darkviking: I am government employee currently furloughed, and would rather be working right now.  Really.  I was thrilled to fill my gas tank as my bank account is almost gone, so I guess I will be doing the credit card thing until this mess is over.

Since we are getting back pay anyway, why can't the government float a no-interest loan to all workers to cover their paychecks?  Just pay off the loan when the gov is back in business and everyone is happy.

I'm sure when I sober up that will not seem as logical as it does now.


Gotta have priorities. :)
 
2013-10-10 12:39:22 AM  

Radioactive Ass: seek3r: Reality check: the parks and such get closed in every govt shutdown. The only way this is about this particular administration is that the right wing desperately wants it to be. You want to scream about the peculiarity of govt that it ally costs money to shutdown then have fun, but recognize it's the way it works, not the administration being biatchy, eh?

You cut off my pure example of doing exactly what you claim doesn't happen. Who is in the wrong here? Spin is a bad thing M'Kay. Never before was that place closed duing these budget battles. Mainly because it had zero impact. This time it was. Ask yourself why and get back to me. Wear your big boy pants when you answer.


Back in 2002/2003 (can't remember which) we were promised something horrible: that we were sending troops overseas with no homefront, no mobilization of the citizenry. That except for the immediate families of those in the military no one would be inconvenienced or put upon.

That is a terrible, terrible policy. War happens because of systemic failures-- the ultimate breakdown in the normal affairs of government.

That should affect everyone in society. Any systemic failure of government should be felt by all.

This war that Republicans wage on laws that they have no mandate to change is the same sort of systemic malfunction. So long as there is something to be gained by them forcing crisis where none otherwise exists, then everyone should feel the harm from those stunts.

If the Tea Party position is the most popular then they will force the system to surrender to them, completely and utterly to raise the flag of white Christiandom across the fruited plains. If not then they and their political bedfellows are purged from the system, first as lame ducks and then replaced by those able to work within the current system.

They declared a political civil war. They believe themselves to be so utterly right that compromise is impossible and that they have the political capital to win with the people.

Why should anyone give a fig about some damned restaurant? Be glad that we only have a budget crisis instead of a shooting war. Because if things truly are irreconcilable as the Tea Party insists I'm surprised those Christian youth militias haven't already been activated for a guerrilla war as intended. (Yeah I've known a couple families that sent their kids to those camps)
 
2013-10-10 12:45:48 AM  

Radioactive Ass: seek3r: Reality check: the parks and such get closed in every govt shutdown. The only way this is about this particular administration is that the right wing desperately wants it to be. You want to scream about the peculiarity of govt that it ally costs money to shutdown then have fun, but recognize it's the way it works, not the administration being biatchy, eh?

You cut off my pure example of doing exactly what you claim doesn't happen. Who is in the wrong here? Spin is a bad thing M'Kay. Never before was that place closed duing these budget battles. Mainly because it had zero impact. This time it was. Ask yourself why and get back to me. Wear your big boy pants when you answer.


Because such things have been done *every* time the govt shuts down. It's a function of how moronic agencies in general operate, not a vindictive regime intent on destroying your freedoms one park at a time (speaking of that, I do love how a few ultra-right wingers have seized on the closures as an opportunity to push for privatization of parks - something which *will* destroy public lands for the good of a few)
 
2013-10-10 12:52:54 AM  
'And his brother's name is listed on the Vietnam Wall,' Cox said. 'In my mind, that entitled me to pick up as much trash as I wanted to.'

Sounds like someone is off their medication and the voices are back...
 
2013-10-10 12:56:10 AM  

ElLoco: buckler: quislings

I had to Google it. My first thought was small sub sandwiches.


Mmmmmm... Toasty!
 
2013-10-10 01:07:30 AM  
People - the elderly, veterans, families - are not getting the healthcare they need and deserve. Obamacare didn't just pop into existence out of nowhere. Taxpayers, the people that OWN the government, demanded taxpayer money be used for healthcare.

Taxpayers aren't required to ask permission from the GOP what to do with taxpayer money. Make no mistake. This is not a fight between the Republicans and Democrats. This is a fight for control of taxpayer money. This is a fight between the GOP and the taxpayers that opted to vote the GOP out of office, which happen to be the majority of taxpayers in the United States.

Taxpayers aren't held accountable to the GOP. The GOP is in fact held accountable to the taxpayers.

The people made these demands to their Congressmen and other democratically elected officials. That's what elections are for after all - to determine who's policies get implemented in government. These policies are chosen fairly in elections. The policies of the GOP were not chosen to be implemented.

The GOP is punishing taxpayers for not implementing their policies.

The House is all that the GOP has control over, so if American taxpayers want to retain control of their government, they must vote the GOP out of power permanently. This is the only way it can work. The Democrats are not going anywhere, and politically, the GOP is very weak.

If the GOP is taken out of power, this will allow the government to actually WORK again. No more bickering and manipulation from a dying out political ideology. Any ideology that doesn't serve the people, has roots in racism, and is exclusionary, can't last. We are seeing evidence of this now.

The only way we can change the government in a positive way is to:
1. remove the GOP, which supports the rights of corporations over people, is manipulative, is controlling
2. replace the GOP with independents and other political ideologies that are not manipulative and have positive intent
3. systematically eliminate and sever all controlling ties between corporations and government by reevaluating our laws and SIMPLIFYING them so that they are easily understood by all parties - eliminate tax loopholes
4. create a congressional system that is completely independent of corporate influence by eliminating lobbyists altogether
5. shorten term limits

This would be a good start in the right direction. The only way taxpayers can take back control of the government is to take out the GOP. The GOP is ruthless, calculating and self-serving. These qualities don't belong in our political system.

If we can remove the sociopaths from controlling our government, then people can be nice in government again. No need for endless bickering... Kindness won't be viewed as a weakness anymore. People can just be themselves, and speak the truth. No spin required.
 
2013-10-10 01:08:49 AM  
The government is a stallion.

I am not so sure how it got to be this way; where the people do not have control over their own government...

The stallion must be restrained and broken, so that it may properly serve it's master. Somehow the people have forgotten just who the master is.

Is it the people or the stallion?

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2013-10-10 01:14:04 AM  

TheTurtle: ElLoco: buckler: quislings

I had to Google it. My first thought was small sub sandwiches.

Mmmmmm... Toasty!


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-10-10 01:19:48 AM  
Ok...the government owns the lawn....but who owns the government?
 
2013-10-10 01:44:15 AM  
Late to the party, but - while he may have good intentions, he's not doing anything good by cutting the grass. Cut the grass, and you increase runoff, increasing phosphorous in the watershed, which cuts down on the oxygen in the local bodies of water and killing fish. Don't cut grass - it's dumb.
 
2013-10-10 01:45:17 AM  

ladyfortuna: Karma Chameleon: But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.

Sure, if you want to live in a community that just builds grey concrete block structures and treats everyone like worker bees with no value (because fark their opinions). That sounds like FUN.


There's an episode of The West Wing where they address this issue pretty well. Yeah it's a lot of money overall, but compared to what we spend on the military it's just like NASA and foreign aid - a mere drop in the bucket.

/former military so I'm not blowing smoke here
 
2013-10-10 01:57:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: goatleggedfellow: asynchron: Now I wish I lived around DC... Awesome chance for a demonstration. Get a bunch of people out doing yardwork like this. Responsible citizens doing what their elected officials won't... Taking care of the country. No partisan message, no finger pointing any more specific than that. Just a general message that elected officials have failed by letting things get to this point.

You do have a message: I will work for free to hurt paid laborers.

You won't hurt the politicians, you will just be another talking point for them. You WILL hurt other people with jobs by giving up your free time with your family to work more for free.

Do you understand the free market? You work to get paid. You get paid for doing work. Pride is all nice, comrade, but free labor isn't going to create jobs or save this country.

You are what is wrong with America. The America I live in puts the country before the Free Market.

Doing something for your community is a bad thing to you? They are not REPLACING the workers, they are trying to do something good for America whilst two political parties fight.

You must be a truly horrible person.


You seem to misunderstand me.

I put the country before the free market, too. I think the market is flawed in it's reliance on greed. I think socialism is also flawed, as is nationalism. The wisest thing to do is step back and see which system is taking advantage of which other system. Only fools place their trust in a single model. The fact is, though, the free market exists whether you like it or not. And without some level of unity, the wealthy masters will pick you apart man by man.

These people are MOWING farkING LAWNS. If un-mowed lawns is your idea of devastation, then just let them grow. Let the "devastation" be seen. Stop being pushed around like pussies, cleaning up everyone else's messes and let the Republicans get what they're asking for. All of it. Let them see their works. Let them show themselves for the angry liars and monsters they are. Let the effects reach them so the Republicans at the bottom realize the bullshiat. The farm bill fiasco? Any sane Republican should have realized the game at that point. That it wasn't about values or jobs or the country, but about maintaining pride in the face of mounting lies and failures. It's the Southern Strategy replayed.

Also, the GOP is putting the free market before the country. I couldn't tell where you stood on that, but that's the situation. They represent a group of people that would rather destroy our economy than sacrifice the slightest bit of their inherited leverage.

Let the GOP reap what it has sown. It's the only way they'll learn.
 
2013-10-10 01:59:20 AM  

Toxicphreke: Ok...the government owns the lawn....but who owns the government?


The CHOAM company.
 
2013-10-10 02:04:55 AM  
Now if we had a few million more people who had this "personal responsibility to America" attitude, we wouldn't be having any shutdown in the first place, the forest service wouldn't have to close down access to rivers to keep them clean from "assholes", the country would be cleaner, people would share common goals to getting things repaired...

And Congress would not be full of criminals.
 
2013-10-10 04:15:25 AM  

Stoker: Now if we had a few million more people who had this "personal responsibility to America" attitude,


Unfortunately some people have been brainwashed / or do not want ANY sorts of personal responsibility. Because you know... father GOV. is there.

It is the daddy-mentality: without a boss, i don't know what i should be doing. Sad. Very sad
 
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