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2013-10-09 10:27:24 PM

ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III
 
2013-10-09 10:31:36 PM

ShawnDoc: relcec: tell me what you are terrified of please. I'll try to help you throw this Apocalypse.

I need help getting my import permits.  No import permits, no importing the stuff I need to sell.  My customers don't get the product they need to sell.  Their customers don't get the stuff they want.


are they still not letting you import without permits?
in all events, international trade sounds essential. let's put that on the list as they were erroneously left off. so there are another 1k workers. we now have 4 groups that won't get canned.
good, we're making progress here. only 974k left to go.
 
2013-10-09 10:31:52 PM

goatleggedfellow: asynchron: Now I wish I lived around DC... Awesome chance for a demonstration. Get a bunch of people out doing yardwork like this. Responsible citizens doing what their elected officials won't... Taking care of the country. No partisan message, no finger pointing any more specific than that. Just a general message that elected officials have failed by letting things get to this point.

You do have a message: I will work for free to hurt paid laborers.

You won't hurt the politicians, you will just be another talking point for them. You WILL hurt other people with jobs by giving up your free time with your family to work more for free.

Do you understand the free market? You work to get paid. You get paid for doing work. Pride is all nice, comrade, but free labor isn't going to create jobs or save this country.


Umm, no.

NOBODY stands to be paid right now to do groundskeeping at national parks, etc. If I understand right, those people are furloughed. Your flippant and bombastic attack is seriously flawed.

Unless you're trolling, in which case you're not doing well at that either; troll posts aren't usually completely false-premised.
 
2013-10-09 10:32:23 PM
Has there ever been consideration of a "popcorn" tag for threads that obviously will go the way of this one?
 
2013-10-09 10:33:15 PM

RevRaven: This guy's a hero.

I hope there's a hundred people with lawn mowers and lawn equipment, doing the exact same thing.

And re: they're barred from law from volunteering: Do it anyway, let's see them enforce it. And then let's see it hold up in court.

"Shutting down" open air monuments? Telling a guy volunteering to leave (presumably under threat of arrest)? What a crock.


I'm amazed that there are people who don't understand that just because something is "open-air" it can't be closed.
 
2013-10-09 10:34:22 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: Has there ever been consideration of a "popcorn" tag for threads that obviously will go the way of this one?


Heh, not a bad idea. I always like the headline formula of "[blah dee blah] to the left, well-reasoned discussion to the right"
 
2013-10-09 10:34:42 PM

machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III


Farking REALLY!? FFS we have some stupid laws and laws that were applied really, really badly.

/why is "politician" a FARKING DAY JOB!?
 
2013-10-09 10:35:43 PM

machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III


Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.
 
2013-10-09 10:36:39 PM
I see where the guy is coming from and it's a nice gesture, but really, just leave it alone..it isn't your property to mow. Let the grass grow a bit..it's better for the environment anyway. I'm also a bit frightened that a place goes into complete 'disrepair' after just 8 days....
 
2013-10-09 10:37:37 PM
BUT if he'd been an illegal Mexican with a lawn mower, protesting and a'mowin for amnesty....well, that's be perfectly okay.

/I hope the national park service remembers this when we pave yellow stone park and backfill that eyesore ditch in Arizona with worthless US currency.
 
2013-10-09 10:37:55 PM
This guy really has nothing better to do?
 
2013-10-09 10:38:44 PM
It's because his lawnmowing isn't quality assured and panel tested, thus it cannot be allowed into the publicly funded locations.
 
2013-10-09 10:38:46 PM

symptomoftheuniverse: Has there ever been consideration of a "popcorn" tag for threads that obviously will go the way of this one?


You mean reasoned debate with constructive solutions? I don't get the popcorn reference, but sure.
 
2013-10-09 10:40:54 PM

Karma Chameleon: But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.


Sure, if you want to live in a community that just builds grey concrete block structures and treats everyone like worker bees with no value (because fark their opinions). That sounds like FUN.
 
2013-10-09 10:43:42 PM

nickerj1: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.


Just to further comment.  It'd be interesting to have a collaborative effort where every non-manager came in and volunteered and still worked.  And then every manager issued a memo stating "I hereby do not accept any volunteered work or services".

And then employees completely ignored it and kept volunteering.  No one would be breaking a law because management wasn't "accepting" the volunteering.
 
2013-10-09 10:44:26 PM

relcec: The longer this *shutdown* goes on for, the more it looks like we had Tammany Hall running this nation all along.

If any other sector in the economy had one million people or one third of its workforce stop coming to work suddenly one day and never come back I think couple hundred million people would notice pretty quick.

But the federal government furloughs one million people and one third of its workforce and if the John Stewart wasn't vamping and if you didn't already have a trip planned to national monument that is roped off for no reason just like 98% of population you couldn't have a clue.

How about this, bring back the 20k parks people, the 1k FDA inspectors, and the few dozen that process passport applications and then fire the 975,000 others.


Really? You don't need the US Geological Service?? Have fun with that next earthquake.
 
2013-10-09 10:47:06 PM

farkingismybusiness: TheTurtle: Jeez, look up the laws, then talk. Furloughed feds are barred BY LAW from volunteering to work.

I am actually unsure what regs the National Park Service could cite as far as barring private citizens from voluntarily helping out, and personally, I think the cordoning-off of monuments in DC is a publicity move on the part of DOI execs, but...

In particular, I'm puzzled about the WWII Veterans Memorial.  It's a big open space.  It isn't staffed... it's not like there are curators or guides like the Smithsonian.  Why cordon it off?  Anyone can go there any time, day or night, except for during this furlough.  In fact, in the last furlough in 1996, they didn't do any of this stuff.  Yes, National Parks closed, but really, if they're cordoning off otherwise-unstaffed monuments in DC, they then end up having "essential" staff man those barricades, all without any guarantee of getting paid.

None of this is an excuse for any Park Police jugheads from getting all "Soy la Ley" on somebody who obviously just wants to help out.  The fact he may be hosing some subtle PR move by some DOI executive isn't up to said jughead to decide.

Washington Monument Syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Pleased that someone actually came up with a name for the illness.  Still doesn't justify being complete dickheads, though.
 
2013-10-09 10:47:34 PM

dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also,  thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.


No, asshole, can't. We would get fired for it. I know this is hard for you to understand, so I'll type slowly: we are prohibited from returning to our duty places until recall and cannot even volunteer to work. Furthermore the guy doing it, while well intentioned, is a douche canoe for whining about the guard doing his job and chasing him off.
 
2013-10-09 10:48:14 PM

Cynicism101: relcec: The longer this *shutdown* goes on for, the more it looks like we had Tammany Hall running this nation all along.

If any other sector in the economy had one million people or one third of its workforce stop coming to work suddenly one day and never come back I think couple hundred million people would notice pretty quick.

But the federal government furloughs one million people and one third of its workforce and if the John Stewart wasn't vamping and if you didn't already have a trip planned to national monument that is roped off for no reason just like 98% of population you couldn't have a clue.

How about this, bring back the 20k parks people, the 1k FDA inspectors, and the few dozen that process passport applications and then fire the 975,000 others.

Really? You don't need the US Geological Service?? Have fun with that next earthquake.


They've done a piss poor job of stopping the last few, anyway. Time for some employment churn to get them back on the ball.
 
2013-10-09 10:48:42 PM
Don't worry, he was kicked out by the police before he could finish.

Crisis averted.
 
2013-10-09 10:50:19 PM

nickerj1: nickerj1: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.

Just to further comment.  It'd be interesting to have a collaborative effort where every non-manager came in and volunteered and still worked.  And then every manager issued a memo stating "I hereby do not accept any volunteered work or services".

And then employees completely ignored it and kept volunteering.  No one would be breaking a law because management wasn't "accepting" the volunteering.


Most lnterpretatlon of the 19th century law seems to agree lt ls wrltten such that lt ls lllegal to volunteer unless dept ls funded.
 
2013-10-09 10:50:33 PM
Pretty sure if you went to some random office complex that had a lawn they wouldn't react too kindly if you decided to mow it without the owner's permission.
 
2013-10-09 10:50:44 PM
Sadly mowing the lawn, sawing up downed trees, or picking up trash on federal property as a private citizen is a crime.  I don't know why but this is the law - even though it is rarely enforced.
 
2013-10-09 10:50:54 PM
Its embarrassing that our country is more concerned about cutting federal grass than they are donating formula and milk to needy infants.


Sometimes I really despise my countrymen.
 
2013-10-09 10:52:30 PM

ElLoco: Barricaded Gunman: refusing to work for free

Really? For free? So you think they won't be getting back pay when the dust settles? You know... back pay for doing nothing the whole time?


So cute. I am essentially working for free right now. Know why? Because that promise of being paid eventually was enough for them to recall me. I don't WANT to get paid for sitting on my ass because I didn't earn it and I am glad I still have a job, but the promise doesn't feed my kids or pay my mortgage. So, in essence, eat a dick.
 
2013-10-09 10:52:40 PM
elmundomaschido.com

Guy in question?
 
2013-10-09 10:53:17 PM
I'm perfectly willing to make a deal here...

If private charity manages to take up for public programs and manages to cover them... Then by gum, I will never say another bad word about Compassionate Conservatism again.
So... Have at...
 
2013-10-09 10:53:25 PM

nickerj1: relcec: The longer this *shutdown* goes on for, the more it looks like we had Tammany Hall running this nation all along.

If any other sector in the economy had one million people or one third of its workforce stop coming to work suddenly one day and never come back I think couple hundred million people would notice pretty quick.

But the federal government furloughs one million people and one third of its workforce and if the John Stewart wasn't vamping and if you didn't already have a trip planned to national monument that is roped off for no reason just like 98% of population you couldn't have a clue.

How about this, bring back the 20k parks people, the 1k FDA inspectors, and the few dozen that process passport applications and then fire the 975,000 others.

There are quite a few federal agencies that are not shutdown that aren't "essential". They're generally agencies that break even (or make money) via some type of fee structure.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/afb27d42b8b243ee9b491a121319cd ea /US-Shutdown-Still-Working

- Passport offices run by the State Department, along with U.S. citizen services at foreign consulates. The State Department is also still accepting and processing visa applications for foreign travelers who want to visit the United States.

- The Health and Human Services Department offices that handle Medicare and Medicaid, along with the health insurance marketplaces under the new health care law.

- The Farm Credit Administration, which provides loans and other services for farmers and rural areas.

- The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, which regulates truck and bus safety, and the Federal Highway Administration, which primarily directs federal highway aid to states. Both agencies are funded in large part with federal gasoline and diesel taxes, which are still available despite the government shutdown.

- The Federal Aviation Administration's airport improvements program, which mainly processes grants to airports; it ...



- f*ck the farmers. and creating a bureau to deal with their specific loans is retarded. quit subsidizing them, let food prices increase to a sustainable level, then give poor people more cash directly if they need it. I don't want to be in the business of subsidizing Cargil directly anymore.
Also make them pay the going rate for american workers, use machines, or possibly even better let mexico grow the shiat so its not such a nightmare society bereft of jobs. enough of this subsidizing farmers by letting them import peasants form a third world country that don't make enough to even live decently that we all then have to take care of while they profit.

- if the highway administration and airport whatever are largely self-sustaining threw receipts and aren't shutting down because of that, I'm not sure what the gripe is. Doesn't that sound like something that is working instead of cause to biatch?

-let's add the patent bureau to the essential list.
there, another 15k nonessential federal workers get to keep there jobs. down to 960k people that get the axe next week.
and another thing, being able to patent business processes and colors is f*cking retarded. change that law while you add them to the essential list.

-CMS and DHHS obviously should be on the essential list, this is also where the food inspectors come from apparently. obama must have made a error when he said they were nonessential.
let's pretend that all 39,000 are vital and let them all back on.
now only 922k people left to fire.

again, what do all these other people do that no one but they notice? what do the 400k military workers that aren't working do? you know what maybe we can stop bombing another country at least once a decade for the past CENTURY and let these folks do something productive.
if one third of garbage workers were laid off on Monday, I'd have a great idea something was seriously wrong by Thursday.
 
2013-10-09 10:53:39 PM
nickerj1: I was federal for about sixteen years, and I don't remember more than maybe one or two years where we had a real budget on time.  Everything we dealt with was CR this, CR that, and then in July we'd get a year's worth of money dumped on us which had to be spent by September 30. I tried hard to avoid spending it on stupid shiat, but it was made clear it HAD TO GET SPENT or we'd get cut the next year.
 
2013-10-09 10:54:15 PM

Lt_Ryan: Barricaded Gunman: dittybopper: If this guy could do it, then they could do it also

Sure, let's try and turn this into a gripe against those damn furloughed workers, refusing to work for free while an assload of Republican millionaires continue to draw pay for f#cking up the country.

However the furloughed workers will be paid for the time they were furloughed. Sure they will be without a paycheck for a while but in the end they have been given a paid holiday. I'm not sure about anyone else but if I was paying someone to do a job and they didn't and expected pay anyway I'd be pissed. Not at the workers but at the management, what is the point of the furlough if they will get paid anyway it doesn't save any money.


I have a few furloughed friends who would jump at the chance to work if they knew there was only the slightest biatchance of getting paid.  Instead they are stuck at home bored legally barred from even checking their work email.
 
2013-10-09 10:54:57 PM
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You don't mow another man's lawn!
 
2013-10-09 10:58:48 PM

Alphakronik: donating formula and milk to needy infants.


Most milk would turn by the time an infant could safely consume it.

Better to fatten up its mother and let her breast-feed.

/ maybe an Olive Garden gift certificate would be in order
 
2013-10-09 10:58:49 PM

Karma Chameleon: Is it just me, or is the whole national parks/monuments aspect of the shutdown getting way too much attention? I don't understand the abundance of coverage on these things. Yeah, it sucks. But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.


It's because it highlights the petty and vindictive nature of this administrations policies who is doing their best to make it hurt when it doesn't have to. It's quite clear to most people that they will allow things that they want or like (immigration rally on the national mall which was supposed to be closed for example) while closing open air memorials. This is just another tic mark on a long list of petty closings and actions by the NPS and their desire to make it hurt by any means necessary and to make it as public as possible.

People understand museums closing, they understand large parks closing, what they don't understand is seemingly malicious closings of things that don't need to be closed. Take the Cliff House in San Francisco for example. It's a famous century and a half old restaurant that was forced to close by the NPS because they are considered a concession due to how the GGNRA was laid out. It is fronted by San Francisco streets, has parking owned by San Francisco (and the parking meters to prove it) is serviced by SFPD and SFFD, uses San Francisco water and power and is staffed by non-government employees. Zero reasons to close it down for any normal person looking at it objectively. Yet it was for no other reason than to fabricate inconvenience for the public by the NPS. Never before during these budget battles has it been closed, mainly because it's pointless to do so due to it having no reliance upon the NPS and through the concession, generates a lot of money for the NPS. It isn't a cheap restaurant to eat at, it's not a  hot dog, or corn dog if you're an Anne Hathaway fan, stand I can assure you if you're not dropping at least a bill there for a dinner for two at sunset then you're doing it wrong. Brunch on Sunday is for the cheap people but it still will cost you $25 per person.

Meanwhile the diner 50 yards away with almost the exact same view is open for business albeit without the white tablecloths (red and white plastic ones the last time I was there). My point here being that there is no reason for the NPS to close it unless they wanted to pass on the pain and for me that's just supremely petty on their part. I don't blame the rangers or even their immediate supervisors for this. I blame the people at the top who set policies that they have to follow.
 
2013-10-09 10:59:11 PM
Dude needs to get a job.  I bet he's on food stamps.
 
2013-10-09 11:01:06 PM

ElLoco: Barricaded Gunman: refusing to work for free

Really? For free? So you think they won't be getting back pay when the dust settles? You know... back pay for doing nothing the whole time?


And they would be in violation of federal law for doing it now.  And there is at this point no guarantee that they will get back pay.  Whether someone thinks they will now from the comfort of their chair is irrelevant.
 
2013-10-09 11:01:37 PM

nickerj1: machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III

Actually....

That law only says it's unlawful for an officer or employee to accept voluntary services.  It doesn't say it's unlawful for an employee to perform voluntary services for the agency.  Just that the agency's management can't "accept" the volunteered services.

Lots of feds can and do work voluntary overtime.


Sorry dude, the furlough paperwork I received was very explicit on thay point. No volunteering or showing up until recalled. I do work overtime without compensation sometimes, 8 hours just ain't enough to get it all done somedays.
 
2013-10-09 11:03:15 PM
This is a great idea! I'm headed out to the airport right now to inspect some planes and tomorrow I'm going to the hospital to inject some stuff I found in the garage into some cancer kids!

Let's go America!

ridefortheconstitution.org
 
2013-10-09 11:04:37 PM

llevrok: Not reported by Obama's quislings we call the American press.


Derp.
 
2013-10-09 11:05:24 PM
I thought Lawnmower Man WAS the Government. (rimshot)

Please send my Internets to me c/o Fark.com and they'll forward them to me.
 
2013-10-09 11:05:32 PM

asynchron: Now I wish I lived around DC... Awesome chance for a demonstration. Get a bunch of people out doing yardwork like this. Responsible citizens doing what their elected officials won't... Taking care of the country. No partisan message, no finger pointing any more specific than that. Just a general message that elected officials have failed by letting things get to this point.


Sounds good but I am sure someone will turn it into a political statement.
 
2013-10-09 11:06:00 PM

TheTurtle: I am actually unsure what regs the National Park Service could cite as far as barring private citizens from voluntarily helping out, and personally, I think the cordoning-off of monuments in DC is a publicity move on the part of DOI execs, but...


Largely it's a liability issue.  He empties a trash can, throws out his back and sues.
 
2013-10-09 11:06:12 PM

gweilo8888: ArcadianRefugee: You got that last URL wrong. Here: [Link]

Actually, I got it right. (Add a www. to google.com/search?q="chris+cox"&oq="chris+cox"#q=%22chris+cox%22&sa fe=off&tbm=nws and see for yourself.) Just Fark's retarded filters stripped it on submit.

But thanks anyway.


I was meaning more you should have given him the lmgtfy link instead of the straight Google one. Sorry.

machodonkeywrestler: ArcadianRefugee: machodonkeywrestler: dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also, thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.

Except lt's a felony. for them to.

We really need "dumb" (and "unfunny") buttons.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-II/chapter-13/sub ch apter-III


*Sigh* I meant for his post, not yours.

/obviously out of sorts tonight, so I'll just sign off
 
2013-10-09 11:06:21 PM

gweilo8888: llevrok: Not reported by Obama's quislings we call the American press.

Yep, not at all:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/citizen-lawn-mower-at-lincoln-me mo rial-also-blows-leaves-and-cuts-up-downed-branches/2013/10/09/0383e710 -3120-11e3-89ae-16e186e117d8_story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/man-mows-lincoln-memorial_n _4 072665.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/09/231073855/to-help-dur in g-shutdown-man-mows-lawn-around-lincoln-memorial

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57606793/amid-government-shutdow n- one-man-memorial-militia-cleans-up-national-mall/

Ah, fark it. You know what? Do it yourself, you lazy SOB.

https://www.google.com/search?q="chris+cox"&oq="chris+cox"#q=%22chri s+ cox%22&safe=off&tbm=nws


Reality 1, GOP shill 0
 
2013-10-09 11:07:03 PM

goatleggedfellow: asynchron: Now I wish I lived around DC... Awesome chance for a demonstration. Get a bunch of people out doing yardwork like this. Responsible citizens doing what their elected officials won't... Taking care of the country. No partisan message, no finger pointing any more specific than that. Just a general message that elected officials have failed by letting things get to this point.

You do have a message: I will work for free to hurt paid laborers.

You won't hurt the politicians, you will just be another talking point for them. You WILL hurt other people with jobs by giving up your free time with your family to work more for free.

Do you understand the free market? You work to get paid. You get paid for doing work. Pride is all nice, comrade, but free labor isn't going to create jobs or save this country.


You know what?  Even here on Fark- it's about time to call BS.  Those furloughed workers will get paid back pay- it's how our convoluted system works.  Work for free?  Is someone giving this guy fuel, supplies and expenses?  Is the brutal truth that he is paying himself to step up and take care of things?  In my humble opinion, he is demonstrating real heroism.  He isn't trying to be personal, just realistic.

All BS aside- this one man is quietly stepping up.  Many of us Americans who simply want a government for the people and by the people again- this guy found a way.  Find whatever fault you want to- the fact remains that with more people like him, those asshats leading this country will become obsolete.

Why should our leaders really care?  What is their motivation?  They get salaries FOR LIFE.  Shut down the country, cut 'non essential' services, (essential is such a relative word, after all) when the day ends- congress gets paid.  Federal workers will get back pay.  Why SHOULD they care if death benefits for Veterans are suspended and those who die in combat can't be properly buried?  They will all go to sleep tonight well fed, well housed and comfortable.

Call him what you will, mock him, and spout your crap.  It's a free country, right?  Oh, wait- those freedoms we believe we have?  Is anyone on duty to ensure them?  Or are those 'defending' us actually busy standing guard around those irresponsible asshats who can't get along?

*disgusted*
 
2013-10-09 11:07:47 PM

ElLoco: Barricaded Gunman: refusing to work for free

Really? For free? So you think they won't be getting back pay when the dust settles? You know... back pay for doing nothing the whole time?


gmanfortruth.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-09 11:08:43 PM

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Guy in question?


Hobo with a Shotgun is one of those rare classics that restores your faith in modern cinema.
 
2013-10-09 11:09:29 PM

dittybopper: Shostie: and clean up what furloughed government workers won't

"CAN'T" you f*cking dickheads!

If this guy could do it, then they could do it also,  thou fornicating penile-cephalitic.


I haven't read the thread yet.  Has anyone said anything more idiotic than this?
 
2013-10-09 11:09:30 PM
Hey, you know what I don't want? Joe Blow from god knows where doing whatever he feels is best to our national treasures.

Best intentions are nice and all, but come on. That stuff needs to be coordinated well beyond the "let's all grab our mowers and clip the Lincoln Memorial" level.
 
2013-10-09 11:10:18 PM

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You don't mow another man's lawn!


Winnar.
 
2013-10-09 11:12:02 PM

Karma Chameleon: Is it just me, or is the whole national parks/monuments aspect of the shutdown getting way too much attention? I don't understand the abundance of coverage on these things. Yeah, it sucks. But culture and aesthetics should be secondary concerns at best.


National monuments are patriotic. Neither Party sees any margin in discussing things that affect people's health, safety and lives.

The GOP are happy to ruin transfers and entitlements for anybody other than their own, but they can't admit it, while the Democrats are vulnerable to the taxy-spendy meme.

So stick Grandma on an ice floe and push her out to sea to feed the waiting polar bears and orca. Nobody's going to talk about that aspect of the shut-down.
 
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