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2013-10-09 02:03:20 PM

Literally Addicted: MrBallou: Private Catholic school, private bus company. You made the choice, dude. If he wants them to add enough buses to give him the service he wants, the price he pays will be higher.

No, the Catholic school board is not considered "private" in Ontario.  It's a separate school board, but they still have to let in anyone who lives in the area who is eligible to attend (lots of non-Catholics attend the Catholic schools here).


I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.
 
2013-10-09 02:06:25 PM
I live near lockhart and commute to san antonio; pretty much the same round trip as this.
 
2013-10-09 02:16:59 PM

vudukungfu: My grandmother slept in a travelling lumber camp and rode a horse to school each day to get an education.
STFU and get your free education.
Oh, it's a private school?
STFU and DIAF.


Ontario Catholic schools are publically funded because of certain arrangement.  They get a tax levy from Catholic households (and even from non-Catholics, which is a different issue) to fund Catholic schools.   Further, the school is part of a school board, which is more than capable of arranging transportation or determining if a student should go to a closer school.

Now, a 2-hour travel time for 10km is a blunder under any system because it's faster walking.
 
2013-10-09 02:18:57 PM
My commute to work is over an hour by bus.

/10 minutes by bike
 
2013-10-09 02:19:50 PM

MrBallou: I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.


The Catholic School Board is considered a "separate" school board, but you can direct your tax dollars to it's funding (actually one of the prerequisites to getting your kids enrolled).  Because it is gov't funded (province, I believe), the schools can't deny any student who is eligible to attend (age, vaccinations and tax direction are the usual prerequisites).

However, say you have a home that has two kids attending a Catholic school and two attending public school, (actual household scenario for me) you can direct a percentage of your taxes to each.

HS here is slightly different - a student applies to a HS, and may not necessarily be admitted if they are out of region, depending on the criteria.  A school can deny an applicant based on grades, distance concerns (may affect attendance) and capacity.  In this girl's case, she would be allowed special dispensation as a girl in an all-girl Catholic HS, but she may have been denied if there was another all-girl Catholic school closer.
 
2013-10-09 02:20:52 PM

MrBallou: Literally Addicted: MrBallou: Private Catholic school, private bus company. You made the choice, dude. If he wants them to add enough buses to give him the service he wants, the price he pays will be higher.

No, the Catholic school board is not considered "private" in Ontario.  It's a separate school board, but they still have to let in anyone who lives in the area who is eligible to attend (lots of non-Catholics attend the Catholic schools here).

I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.


Yeah I think The UK and Canukistan have something akin to a voucher system like the evil and backwards Republicans want here.  Where it really gets weird is in some rural areas there is only a private school option.  Not sure how it actually works or how true it is since I get my news from the fark.com derp factory.
 
2013-10-09 02:24:49 PM

pipegrep: "Bruce Campbell, spokesman for Dufferin-Peel Catholic District School"


AND THE GREATEST ACTOR OF OUR TIME!X
 
2013-10-09 02:25:29 PM

soakitincider: I live near lockhart and commute to san antonio; pretty much the same round trip as this.


60 miles in bad traffic will cause that...
 
2013-10-09 02:25:38 PM

MrBallou: Literally Addicted: MrBallou: Private Catholic school, private bus company. You made the choice, dude. If he wants them to add enough buses to give him the service he wants, the price he pays will be higher.

No, the Catholic school board is not considered "private" in Ontario.  It's a separate school board, but they still have to let in anyone who lives in the area who is eligible to attend (lots of non-Catholics attend the Catholic schools here).

I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.


Due to some politicking in the 1860's the Catholic school system is publicly funded. Other religious schools are not. At least this is the case in Ontario, it varies from province to province.

/we are aware that it makes no sense, but no one wants to change it.
 
2013-10-09 02:26:55 PM

namegoeshere: 5) Buy her a bike


^^^^

10K by bike, something around a half hour or so depending on how strong of a peddler she is and how flat the commute is.  Not an unreasonable thing to do in not bad weather.

I rode in to school (around 2.5 miles or so, so less than half her distance) just about any day that it wasn't too icy / raining from grade 11 on.  Did it periodically in 9th and 10th.  But I regularly also rode around six miles (just shy of her distance) to my high school girlfriends house, which included some nasty hills.  It sucked, but if I'd been doing it every day it wouldn't have sucked nearly as much after a while (also if I'd gotten a better bike...)

Not saying that every kid can do this, but it's not unreasonable to expect that it's possible and to try it.
 
2013-10-09 02:26:58 PM

Prince George: Yeah I think The UK and Canukistan have something akin to a voucher system like the evil and backwards Republicans want here.  Where it really gets weird is in some rural areas there is only a private school option.  Not sure how it actually works or how true it is since I get my news from the fark.com derp factory.


They're not private schools, there are just two tax-payer funded school systems. You get to pick which one your kid goes into, and you get to pick which one your taxes go towards.

If you want to send your kid to an *actual* private school, you pay for that as well as continue to pay tax to one of the provincially funded school systems.
 
2013-10-09 02:43:16 PM

Pope Larry II: we are aware that it makes no sense, but no one wants to change it.


The two school systems seem to work together sometimes to offer different types of courses beyond the mandated ciriculum. When I was going into high school, I had the choice of an arts/sciences focused public school, a tech/shop focused public school, and a catholic school with more focus on social studies and sports.

I rather like the idea of that choice. A decade later, a good number of us have jobs in fields that more or less tied into the kinds of things we had access to at our particular schools.
 
2013-10-09 02:44:36 PM

Pope Larry II: MrBallou: Literally Addicted: MrBallou: Private Catholic school, private bus company. You made the choice, dude. If he wants them to add enough buses to give him the service he wants, the price he pays will be higher.

No, the Catholic school board is not considered "private" in Ontario.  It's a separate school board, but they still have to let in anyone who lives in the area who is eligible to attend (lots of non-Catholics attend the Catholic schools here).

I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.

Due to some politicking in the 1860's the Catholic school system is publicly funded. Other religious schools are not. At least this is the case in Ontario, it varies from province to province.

/we are aware that it makes no sense, but no one wants to change it.


Tha phuq?  Canada is a strange place...
 
2013-10-09 02:46:59 PM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Could be worse.


Most awesome way evah to get to school

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-10-09 02:59:50 PM
Deslauriers said this is the closest all-girls Catholic high school to their home.

Pictures of the students

www.thecampuscompanion.com4.bp.blogspot.comundergradrag.files.wordpress.com

And of of course the teachers

www.thes4p.com images.esellerpro.comwww.hindustantimes.com
//Going to burn in hell for this
 
2013-10-09 03:24:22 PM

Pope Larry II: MrBallou: Literally Addicted: MrBallou: Private Catholic school, private bus company. You made the choice, dude. If he wants them to add enough buses to give him the service he wants, the price he pays will be higher.

No, the Catholic school board is not considered "private" in Ontario.  It's a separate school board, but they still have to let in anyone who lives in the area who is eligible to attend (lots of non-Catholics attend the Catholic schools here).

I did not know that. Catholic schools here are funded and run by the church. Are religious schools in Canukistan not independent of the government? This socialism thing has ramifications I never considered.

Due to some politicking in the 1860's the Catholic school system is publicly funded. Other religious schools are not. At least this is the case in Ontario, it varies from province to province.

/we are aware that it makes no sense, but no one wants to change it.


I would love to change it. If you want to send your snowflake to a religious school, you should pay for it, like it was a private school. Plus you should still have to pay your taxes to support the public school system. All children should go to public school, and have their religious instruction after school or on the weekend.
 
2013-10-09 03:36:05 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: All children should go to public school, and have their religious instruction after school or on the weekend.


No.
 
2013-10-09 03:52:14 PM

lasercannon: Deslauriers said this is the closest all-girls Catholic high school to their home.

Pictures of the students

[www.thecampuscompanion.com image 241x500][4.bp.blogspot.com image 297x400][undergradrag.files.wordpress.com image 300x491]

And of of course the teachers

[www.thes4p.com image 364x400] [images.esellerpro.com image 850x850][www.hindustantimes.com image 430x600]
//Going to burn in hell for this


there's no catholic requirement to be clothed.  when jesuits went out to minister to folks in less developed parts of the world, they would often don the local clothing... which often meant no clothing.  (however, other catholics thought the jesuits were weirdos... but, now there's a jesuit pope, so take that)

/ studied law at a jesuit university, i have a soft spot for them
// not a catholic
 
2013-10-09 03:57:56 PM

Yogimus: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: All children should go to public school, and have their religious instruction after school or on the weekend.

No.


Yes. Religion has no place in schools or government. In fact, I think all religion is ridiculous, but if you want to worship some invisible eye-in-the-sky, knock yourself out.
 
2013-10-09 04:02:15 PM
I used to drive a school bus in Ontario, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread..
 
2013-10-09 04:10:32 PM

SuperChuck: buckeyebrain: listernine: Private school. Next thread please.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 505x755]

What's with the three dudes in drag on the left?


One of the gags involved the three dudes (Matthew Modine and his buds) dressing in drag to sneak into the girls' dorm.
 
2013-10-09 04:38:54 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: Yogimus: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: All children should go to public school, and have their religious instruction after school or on the weekend.

No.

Yes. Religion has no place in schools or government. In fact, I think all religion is ridiculous, but if you want to worship some invisible eye-in-the-sky, knock yourself out.


Private schools.
 
2013-10-09 05:38:54 PM
Am I correct that 10 km is about 6 miles?

/metric, how does it work
 
2013-10-09 05:49:19 PM

boyvoyeur: Am I correct that 10 km is about 6 miles?

/metric, how does it work


Yep.

I can convert feet/inches to centimetres/metres and lbs to kilos (and any liquid measurement...especially if it's alcohol).  But miles to kilometres throws me off (unless it's speed, then I get it).

/i haz a handicap
 
2013-10-09 05:57:21 PM
[...] paid $1,844 to have Attridge Transportation Inc. drive their daughter [...]

For that money you could hire a taxi to drive her every day. Or you could just buy her a Vespa scooter. Either would be much faster and cost the same (or less).

[...] all-girls Catholic high school [...]

farm4.static.flickr.com
/oshibaru likes where this is going
 
2013-10-09 11:50:04 PM
www.clashofthedragons.com
 
2013-10-10 09:06:13 AM

costermonger: Prince George: Yeah I think The UK and Canukistan have something akin to a voucher system like the evil and backwards Republicans want here.  Where it really gets weird is in some rural areas there is only a private school option.  Not sure how it actually works or how true it is since I get my news from the fark.com derp factory.

They're not private schools, there are just two tax-payer funded school systems. You get to pick which one your kid goes into, and you get to pick which one your taxes go towards.

If you want to send your kid to an *actual* private school, you pay for that as well as continue to pay tax to one of the provincially funded school systems.


Thanks! That's even weirder than I thought.  I knew it wasn't quite a voucher system which is why I said akin.
 
2013-10-10 09:09:23 AM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: Yogimus: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: All children should go to public school, and have their religious instruction after school or on the weekend.

No.

Yes. Religion has no place in schools or government. In fact, I think all religion is ridiculous, but if you want to worship some invisible eye-in-the-sky, knock yourself out.


You sound very open-minded and everything, but I think the most ludicrous thing you said was that all children should have to go to public school.

You clearly hate anyone who lives in the inner city.  Your zip code shouldn't doom you to go to some shiatty, god-awful public school.
 
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