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2013-10-09 11:38:05 AM
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vudukungfu: Jim_Callahan: vudukungfu: A Petrogovernment Spokesperson declared it an "isolated incident" and a "Safe source of clean energy"
Um... pipeline failure, released products all incinerated, no property damage apart from the line itself because buildings nearby were kept at appropriate distance, no injuries, and the line was shut off pretty much immediately and the fire easily limited by just letting the remainder past the valve flare off.  I say "limited" because it was at no point not contained, because this kind of leak is naturally self-containing in the first place.
Basically, this is a pretty good indication that current procedures and standards make natgas pipelines entirely safe when followed properly.
//Overland lines through areas with road access are about the safest way to transport petro precursors, pretty much exactly because this is how easy they are to contain, the fire department didn't even have to do anything but wait for the flare to die down.
//The worst is water transport, since water spills are damn near impossible to contain.
Shill.


Meh--he's often right. It's just that he's so self-righteous about everything that you want to punch him anyway.
2013-10-09 10:37:28 AM
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Jim_Callahan


d23: Jim_Callahan: //The worst is water transport, since water spills are damn near impossible to contain.

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Um... are you not familiar with the various high-profile water spills in the last few decades? Exxon-Valdez, the BP platform in the gulf, etc?


I think d23 thought you were talking about spills OF water, not petroleum spills ON water.
2013-10-09 10:34:17 AM
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d23: Jim_Callahan: //The worst is water transport, since water spills are damn near impossible to contain.

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Um... are you not familiar with the various high-profile water spills in the last few decades?  Exxon-Valdez, the BP platform in the gulf, etc?

Most of them  still haven't been fully cleaned up.  By contrast, the only really bad pipeline spill was in Alaska where there wasn't a tech within 100 miles of the failure, and that was cleaned up relatively quickly.

Old_Chief_Scott: ...said Jim_Callahan, spokesman for the American Natural Gas Institute.


Yeah, because pointing out that this incident's resulted in zero deaths, injuries, or property/ environmental damage is totally hardcore industry spin.

I'm sorry that supporting my (relatively educated, by the way, given that I've designed several safety systems over the years) opinion with a full paragraph of clearly-stated facts gets under your skin so much.  Do you have an actual counter-argument, or is an incorrect ad-hominem the best you can do?

// I even put the opinion/analysis in a separate damned paragraph following the factual basis of the judgement, what do you people want?
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-09 09:56:32 AM
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Jim_Callahan: //The worst is water transport, since water spills are damn near impossible to contain.


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2013-10-09 09:54:20 AM
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vudukungfu: A Petrogovernment Spokesperson declared it an "isolated incident" and a "Safe source of clean energy"


Um... pipeline failure, released products all incinerated, no property damage apart from the line itself because buildings nearby were kept at appropriate distance, no injuries, and the line was shut off pretty much immediately and the fire easily limited by just letting the remainder past the valve flare off.  I say "limited" because it was at no point not contained, because this kind of leak is naturally self-containing in the first place.

Basically, this is a pretty good indication that current procedures and standards make natgas pipelines entirely safe when followed properly.

//Overland lines through areas with road access are about the safest way to transport petro precursors, pretty much exactly because this is how easy they are to contain, the fire department didn't even have to do anything but wait for the flare to die down.
//The worst is water transport, since water spills are damn near impossible to contain.
2013-10-09 09:47:37 AM
1 votes:
Where the pipes are bursting into flames
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Where the pipelines burst into hot flames
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Where the plains are busting into flames
-or anything with nine syllables that rhymes.  If you don't get the meter right it kinda sucks.
2013-10-09 09:43:32 AM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma, where the pipelines spontaneously burst into flaaaaaaaames


What are a few extra syllables among friends? :-|

"OOOOOOKlahoma, where the pipeline's bursting into flaaaaames!"
 
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