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(WCAX Vermont)   N.Y. Lawmakers consider banning "revenge porn". "Angry", "Rough", "Furry", "Cheerleader", "Midget", "Donkey", "Glasses", "Gay", and "Tranny" still okay   (wcax.com) divider line 118
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2013-10-09 07:51:14 AM
Gee, Subby, my personal research shows that is is spelled "roght"
 
2013-10-09 08:50:45 AM
What about foot porn?

WHAT ABOUT FOOT PORN??
 
2013-10-09 08:52:01 AM
Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"
 
2013-10-09 09:15:00 AM

Walker: Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"


Well, if part of the boyfriend is in frame and there is an incriminating mole...
 
2013-10-09 09:19:32 AM
I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.
 
2013-10-09 09:20:38 AM
"The revenge fark is das bestest fark." ~ Hitler
 
2013-10-09 09:22:26 AM

Rincewind53: I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.


This. Although I'm surprised that it isn't already illegal where the woman in question hasn't signed a release form.
 
2013-10-09 09:23:45 AM
Aren't there already laws that would cover this type of thing? You're supposed to have a signed release as well as documentation of the persons age on file for any pornographic video, why not just punish them under those laws?
 
2013-10-09 09:25:42 AM
What about combinations?
Gay midget cheerleader porn is still okay, right?
 
2013-10-09 09:25:56 AM

ReapTheChaos: Aren't there already laws that would cover this type of thing? You're supposed to have a signed release as well as documentation of the persons age on file for any pornographic video, why not just punish them under those laws?


Because the more laws we have on the books, the more it proves we have evolved as a society.
 
2013-10-09 09:26:26 AM
what the hell is "revenge porn"?
 
2013-10-09 09:27:41 AM
First they came for the revenge porn and I didn't speak out because I yea, I guess revenge porn could be a little creepy.
Then they came for the granny porn and I didn't speak out because I'm not into granny porn.
Then they came for the bondage porn and I didn't speak out because BDSM isn't my thing.
Then they came for all the porn,

and there was nothing left to wank to.

 lexfridman.com
 
2013-10-09 09:29:30 AM

Walker: Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"


Sometimes they can be proven with IP addresses and usernames.
 
2013-10-09 09:30:15 AM

ManateeGag: what the hell is "revenge porn"?


Ex-Boyfriends who post nude or sexually explicit pictures of their girlfriends online in an act of revenge against the girl for breaking up with them.
 
2013-10-09 09:30:17 AM

Walker: Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"


Given the kind of people we're dealing with, I expect many of them will be stupid enough to connect themselves to the crime.
 
2013-10-09 09:30:34 AM
Cause that will solve it all.  A new law.
 
2013-10-09 09:30:39 AM

Nurglitch: Although I'm surprised that it isn't already illegal where the woman in question hasn't signed a release form.


I think a release is only needed if it's for commercial use.
 
2013-10-09 09:31:22 AM
What about the transgendered-scandinavian-midget-librarian-wearing-glasses-and-thighh ighs-while-smoking porn?
 
2013-10-09 09:31:29 AM

Rincewind53: I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.


How do you prove it was malicious vs just careless, thoughtless, or selfish?
 
2013-10-09 09:32:33 AM

Walker: Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"


Or, equally possible

"My boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Yes, he told me that he posted them online. Here is the text message I saved from when he accused me of it."
"I guess you win then"
 
2013-10-09 09:33:31 AM

Nutsac_Jim: Rincewind53: I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.

How do you prove it was malicious vs just careless, thoughtless, or selfish?


The same way you prove malice in any other criminal prosecution. It's not like this is a brand new concept in criminal theory.
 
2013-10-09 09:33:44 AM
I find it hard to distinguish between "revenge porn" and "justice porn".
 
2013-10-09 09:33:59 AM
It seems like the way these things are being written, you can still share the porn as long as you don't also include identifying details. That generally takes care of itself anyway.
 
2013-10-09 09:35:19 AM

Vertdang: What about the transgendered-scandinavian-midget-librarian-wearing-glasses-and-thighh ighs-while-smoking porn?


Why would the librarian be smoking porn?
 
2013-10-09 09:35:32 AM
Pointless white-knighting law that will only help whores. If you're enough of a slut to want your husband or boyfriend to see you naked, you deserve everything that's coming to you.
 
2013-10-09 09:36:08 AM

Walker: Free speech b*tches. And once it's out on the internet good luck proving who did it or getting the images off the internet.

"But.....but my boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Well.......no"
"Case dismissed"


Really?  A judge will accept a "how do you know something else doesn't exist" argument?
 
2013-10-09 09:36:12 AM
Honestly, no one should be hosting any type of porn without ID verification for age anyhow, just make a law that requires that that verification come in the form of a signed, witnessed statement with ID that not only are you 18, but you consent to this video being distributed.

Make it an automatic takedown for any site hosting any un-verified video, and a fine for doing it knowingly.  That'd be significantly more effective in suppressing this kind of crap than trying to track down and pin the people making and releasing the videos-- though, don't get me wrong, going after them too is a good plan as well.

//And, ironically, wouldn't even reduce the amount of this content on the 'net, since most "revenge porn" is exactly like other "amateur" porn-- made by industry professionals in a studio that's fully licensed and regularly inspected, probably even unionized.  The "this is my ex-girlfriend" schtick is the same as the pizza guy showing up in the short shorts with a large sausage in '70s porn-- yes, it's the  premise, but they're  actors.
 
2013-10-09 09:37:44 AM
It's a pretty simple solution:

"Can I take pictures or film us having sex?"
"No"

If you answer "Yes", assume that said pictures/videos will be plastered all over the internet within minutes after you fall asleep, no matter how much you "trust" your partner.
 
2013-10-09 09:37:50 AM

devilEther: I find it hard to distinguish between "revenge porn" and "justice porn".


How about that sweet, sexy middle ground: "vigilante porn"!
 
2013-10-09 09:38:19 AM
The rest can stay, but the furry has still got to go.
 
2013-10-09 09:39:36 AM

ManateeGag: what the hell is "revenge porn"?


Its like regular porn but with a lot more broken promises and even more shame.
 
2013-10-09 09:40:14 AM

give me doughnuts: What about combinations?
Gay midget cheerleader porn is still okay, right?


The only problem with gay midget cheeleader porn is that I can't find any.
 
2013-10-09 09:40:32 AM

devilEther: I find it hard to distinguish between "revenge porn" and "justice porn".


Really? It's the same thing as online "revenge shaming" and online "justice shaming".

Actually, I've found that if you see the word "justice" on the Internet, you can usually replace it with the word "revenge" for a more accurate description.
 
2013-10-09 09:40:46 AM
how pathetic can people be, posting photos of their supposed "loved ones" on-line for all to see?
 
2013-10-09 09:41:25 AM

AkaDad: give me doughnuts: What about combinations?
Gay midget cheerleader porn is still okay, right?

The only problem with gay midget cheeleader porn is that I can't find any.


Slacker.
 
2013-10-09 09:42:38 AM

proteus_b: how pathetic can people be, posting photos of their supposed "loved ones" on-line for all to see?


People are assholes.
 
2013-10-09 09:44:26 AM

Rincewind53: "My boyfriend was the only one who had those images"
"Can you prove that?"
"Yes, he told me that he posted them online. Here is the text message I saved from when he accused me of it."
"I guess you win then"


I think you over-estimate how intelligent most of the people that actually do this for real are.  Most of the time it'd probably be more like:

*Judge checks facebook page of accused his laptop*  "Seriously?  Goddamned morons. "  *gavel'd* "Guilty."
 
2013-10-09 09:45:19 AM

proteus_b: how pathetic can people be, posting photos of their supposed "loved ones" on-line for all to see?


You might not love your loved ones so much tomorrow. There are many variables at play.
 
2013-10-09 09:45:35 AM
But my nugget porn collection is still ok, right subby? Right????
 
2013-10-09 09:46:36 AM
Random thought: would this only involve images and video, or would text be covered ("Dear Penthouse, I never thought something like this would happen to me, but...")? I'm trying to figure if there's a legal line between talking down your ex ("She's such a freak. This one time...") and showing people a pic of said freakiness.
 
2013-10-09 09:47:08 AM

Rincewind53: I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.


And this highlights the problem with these laws.  They will only be enforced against men and woman who do this will either be believed that they didn't do it or not charged at all.
 
2013-10-09 09:48:04 AM

Jim_Callahan: Honestly, no one should be hosting any type of porn without ID verification for age anyhow, just make a law that requires that that verification come in the form of a signed, witnessed statement with ID that not only are you 18, but you consent to this video being distributed.

Make it an automatic takedown for any site hosting any un-verified video, and a fine for doing it knowingly. That'd be significantly more effective in suppressing this kind of crap than trying to track down and pin the people making and releasing the videos-- though, don't get me wrong, going after them too is a good plan as well.


This would effectively eliminate 90% of the porn on the internet over night.   Which is indeed the goal of many.  It would also free a shiat ton of bandwidth!  Actual porn "businesses" online that makes their own content would dump millions into lobbyist to make just such a law happen.  It would destroy their main competitors (amateur sites) instantly.

People think they know how much porn there is on the internet.  They have no farking clue.  It's pretty mind boggling.  Its like looking down an alley one day and you think you see a sex shop, you go to investigate and you find another city next to the city you were just at that sells nothing but porn.
 
2013-10-09 09:48:42 AM

Rincewind53: ManateeGag: what the hell is "revenge porn"?

Ex-Boyfriends who post nude or sexually explicit pictures of their girlfriends online in an act of revenge against the girl for breaking up with them.


Once again the assumption is that its the male doing this.  But no society has no bias against men.... None at all.
 
2013-10-09 09:49:07 AM

George Babbitt: The rest can stay, but the furry has still got to go.


www.ladyofthecake.com
 
2013-10-09 09:50:47 AM
You sent naughty selfies to get his attention and now you're surprised he's sharing those with the world? You want the government to incarcerate him cuz you're entitled to privacy on the Interwebs?

t.qkme.me
 
2013-10-09 09:52:29 AM

Warlordtrooper: Once again the assumption is that its the male doing this.  But no society has no bias against men.... None at all.


Yeah, because it's not like this particular issue is almost exclusively something men do to women. Go out and find me more than one revenge porn website about girlfriends posting nude pictures of their boyfriends and then we can talk.

Jim_Callahan: I think you over-estimate how intelligent most of the people that actually do this for real are.  Most of the time it'd probably be more like:

*Judge checks facebook page of accused his laptop*  "Seriously?  Goddamned morons. "  *gavel'd* "Guilty."


True. Most assholes who do this are not particularly bright.
 
2013-10-09 09:52:59 AM

Nurglitch: Rincewind53: I'm okay with it entirely. If you can prove that the boyfriend maliciously posted the pictures online, it  should be a criminal act. It's an act of revenge and an act of ongoing harassment with potentially dangerous or career-destroying results to a woman.

This. Although I'm surprised that it isn't already illegal where the woman in question hasn't signed a release form.


While I agree in principle, how far does it go? Can I post a picture of me and my ex girlfriend in our sexy Halloween costumes and say "this was me and my ex-girlfirend at last year's Halloween party, man I hate her now"? What about pictures of us kissing? The funny picture where we groped each other right as the flash went off? I suppose nobody's nude in any of those. Is nudity the dividing line?

I realize there's a difference between all of those and revenge porn, I just don't want the chilling effect of having to get a release from every person in every photo before I can put them up on my website.
 
2013-10-09 09:53:55 AM
Well, that's the sort of thing you'd expect to see with the level of depravity that society is quickly reaching. The casual observer sees that it's generally whores who do that sort of thing.

So stop taking pictures naked.

In the next lesson, learn how to avoid smoker's cough.
 
2013-10-09 09:54:16 AM

DominaNY: You sent naughty selfies to get his attention and now you're surprised he's sharing those with the world? You want the government to incarcerate him cuz you're entitled to privacy on the Interwebs?

[t.qkme.me image 310x206]


Yes, because it should be perfectly legal to vindictively and maliciously post nude pictures on the internet when the pictures were sent in confidence and with assurances that they would stay private!
 
2013-10-09 09:54:20 AM
In a perfect world, no one would give a crap about revenge porn because we would all realize that sex and nudity aren't something we should be ashamed of.
 
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