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(Talking Points Memo)   You know what's funny? If the GOP hadn't done this whole shutdown thing, they could've beaten Obama over the head with the Obamacare glitches. Funny "irony", not so much funny "ha ha"   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 111
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2013-10-09 10:50:32 AM
Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.
 
2013-10-09 10:52:16 AM

vudukungfu: Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.


t.qkme.me
 
2013-10-09 10:57:04 AM
If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.
 
2013-10-09 11:14:50 AM

SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.


In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.
 
2013-10-09 11:22:55 AM

vudukungfu: Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.


Then why does that seem to the sole definition of conservative humor?
 
2013-10-09 11:25:02 AM

vudukungfu: Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.


So Republicans are prop comedians?
 
2013-10-09 11:26:26 AM
Yeah, they done farked up the messaging in order to score ideological points.

Actually, the message has already shifted to "Obama shutdown the government to make you not notice Obamacare isn't working".
 
2013-10-09 11:27:47 AM

DarnoKonrad: Then why does that seem to the sole definition of conservative humor?


Modern conservatism and empathy are mutually exclusive.
 
2013-10-09 11:27:58 AM
See? The Republicans told you stupid Democrats you needed more H1B Visas approved.  This is what happens when you don't outsource to fine upstanding Asian CS majors for less money.
 
2013-10-09 11:29:08 AM

Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.


I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.
 
2013-10-09 11:30:40 AM

Funk Brothers: I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s.


That's nice. Run along, now.
 
2013-10-09 11:31:13 AM

Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


You're no Pocket Ninja.
 
2013-10-09 11:31:26 AM
 
2013-10-09 11:32:50 AM

Funk Brothers: I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s.


This is by far the dumbest sentence I've ever read on Fark. Congratulations.
 
2013-10-09 11:32:58 AM

Funk Brothers: Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


*looks over at Washington*

um...

*calculates paycheck with shutdown included*

yeah...you know what? I'm gonna have to respectfully say that you're full of crap if you honestly think that listening to the Tea Party will only bring happiness and joy to this country.
 
2013-10-09 11:33:35 AM
Ya know what?

If you really want to prove how much the government and bloated and providing worthless, wasteful services, just stop them.  See? We didn't need that!

We only need to reauthorized the critical services that affect people, like this one, that one, of course, the other and .... and...that on, too....Hey!  Take care of the soldiers in the service...and....
 
2013-10-09 11:34:22 AM

Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


Did your mother hold you underwater a lot when you were a baby?
 
2013-10-09 11:34:29 AM

Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


I get it, your name's Poe.
 
2013-10-09 11:35:30 AM
Know what's funny. Not being a 20-something and actually wanting to purchase health insurance for under $1000/month with a smaller than $5000 deductible.

The same company that peddles the over $1000/month with a $5000 deduct is strangely promoting their line of ACA products.
 
2013-10-09 11:35:33 AM

mainstreet62: Funk Brothers: I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s.

This is by far the dumbest sentence I've ever read on Fark. Congratulations.


I'm still trying to find out whether it's a Pocket Ninja attempt, or if he's for real and whoa...where are my pants?
Oh great they're on my head.  That sentence did that to me.
 
2013-10-09 11:35:38 AM
It's almost as if farking over the world economy is a higher priority than a program that will effect a fraction of the US population.
 
2013-10-09 11:37:16 AM

somedude210: Funk Brothers: Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.

*looks over at Washington*

um...

*calculates paycheck with shutdown included*

yeah...you know what? I'm gonna have to respectfully say that you're full of crap if you honestly think that listening to the Tea Party will only bring happiness and joy to this country.


Didn't we break off from a country whose parliament didn't listen to our ancestors over raising taxes to pay for a war once before? Obama like King George III have deaf ears in listening to all people and instead listens to certain people.
 
2013-10-09 11:37:33 AM
That would required the Republican's to have had foresight that the shutdown and threatening to default the United States would make them hated way more than an inconvenient time of signing up for healthcare. You can fix server issues, the United States reputation as being able to conduct day to day business not so easily.
 
2013-10-09 11:38:48 AM

somedude210: *looks over at Washington*


upload.wikimedia.org

Yo.
 
2013-10-09 11:39:32 AM

Funk Brothers: Didn't we break off from a country whose parliament didn't listen to our ancestors over raising taxes to pay for a war once before? Obama like King George III have deaf ears in listening to all people and instead listens to certain people.


Uh... you mean like the last election?  That one where Obama got elected?  You know, with a majority popular vote by... what margin was that again?
 
2013-10-09 11:40:25 AM

vudukungfu: Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.


Who cares.  The important thing is that we are STICKING IT TO THE LIBS.
 
2013-10-09 11:40:32 AM

balthan: It's almost as if farking over the world economy is a higher priority than a program that will effect a fraction of the US population.


Well if we default, a lot of countries are going to gut their entitlement programs too.  We need to move towards a world that accepts social Darwinism and one that doesn't give presents to the disadvantaged as election promises.

This might solve our population problems, resource scarcity, and global warming all at one time.
 
2013-10-09 11:40:39 AM
Obama is a powerless figurehead who rammed Obamacare down their throats, and Obamacare is such a complete failure that in the opening days of its exchanges were so crowded the servers couldn't handle it. It all makes perfect sense if you're insane.
 
2013-10-09 11:40:57 AM

Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


Good luck in your Special Olympics events!
 
2013-10-09 11:41:13 AM
Funk Brothers: *derp*

Goddamitall, but they're just phoning it in.  There is NOTHING left, not even original crazy.
 
2013-10-09 11:43:37 AM
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The TEA Party is the Barney Gumble of political parties.
 
2013-10-09 11:43:42 AM
You know what's funny? The GOP would rather destroy this country through inaction than offer constructive solutions to the problems in existing legislation.

Wait, that's not funny at all.
 
2013-10-09 11:43:46 AM

gottagopee: Funk Brothers: *derp*

Goddamitall, but they're just phoning it in.  There is NOTHING left, not even original crazy.


Oh come on! Don't you enjoy revisionist history and pro-eugenics talk?
 
2013-10-09 11:43:54 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: vudukungfu: Know what isn't funny?
Farking with people's lives.

Who cares.  The important thing is that we are STICKING IT TO THE LIBS.


It will be interesting to see how traditional Republicans on SSI and Medicare react to finding out they're now "libs" who are "getting it stuck to".
 
2013-10-09 11:45:05 AM
FTA: <i>Rory Cooper, a top aide to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), also sounded off on Twitter, noting a Daily Show appearance by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius</i>

Really? You're going to point your supporters to The Daily Show, where they've been absolutely <i>DESTROYING</i> every Republican/Tea Party talking point since the start of this whole thing and (accurately, IMO) calling Fox News 'Bullshiat Mountain', to finally see some criticism of the ACA's rollout?

Where's that Obama "Please- proceed," picture when I need it?
 
2013-10-09 11:45:47 AM
The main "glitch" I've heard of is the web servers not being able to handle the high level of traffic resulting if not from it's outright popularity than at least a public curious to find out more about it all.
 
2013-10-09 11:47:50 AM
It CANNOT BE DENIED that the crap President Obama sold us on the law, "keep your doctor, keep your health plan, costs will decrease", was either outright lies, or incompetent analysis.

The "glitches" aren't the problem, they merely emphasize the point that government programs never work the way they are sold to us.
 
2013-10-09 11:48:27 AM

Shrugging Atlas: The main "glitch" I've heard of is the web servers not being able to handle the high level of traffic resulting if not from it's outright popularity than at least a public curious to find out more about it all.


Many people do not know the difference between the website and the program itself.
 
2013-10-09 11:49:06 AM

SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.


It was planned by the Kochs on the night of Obama's re-election.
 
2013-10-09 11:49:10 AM

gottagopee: Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.

I get it, your name's Poe.


I think he was illustrating my point? My post looks reasonable, in comparison.

/or I'm giving him way too much credit...
 
2013-10-09 11:50:29 AM

Occam's Nailfile: It CANNOT BE DENIED that the crap President Obama sold us on the law, "keep your doctor, keep your health plan, costs will decrease", was either outright lies, or incompetent analysis.

The "glitches" aren't the problem, they merely emphasize the point that government programs never work the way they are sold to us.


Well, the President assumed that people were smart enough not to buy a 'lol plan' that didn't cover anything and might as well be written in crayon.

Sadly, you're no longer allowed to give money to shiatty insurance companies for a shiatty plan that doesn't cover anything.  You'll actually have to be an adult and get a real plan and that may cost more.  As it turns out, being a responsible adult can sometimes cost you something.  Who would have guessed?
 
2013-10-09 11:50:51 AM

Occam's Nailfile: The "glitches" aren't the problem, they merely emphasize the point that government programs never work the way they are sold to us.


Obviously the problem is to get rid of government.

Of course, this makes sense because consumer products ALWAYS work the way they are sold to us,
 
2013-10-09 11:51:16 AM

Shrugging Atlas: The main "glitch" I've heard of is the web servers not being able to handle the high level of traffic resulting if not from it's outright popularity than at least a public curious to find out more about it all.


Ted Cruz summed it up well (inadvertently) when he said "if we don't get rid of the ACA now, we never will" there are a lot of people out there who do desire insurance but for one reason or another are not able to purchase it in the prior "free-market" approach so unless they were employed full time at a firm that provided benefits they were excluded. The ACA levels the playing field though not perfectly it is better than what we had.
 
2013-10-09 11:52:07 AM
if the GOP was at all serious about the debt, they wouldn't be against raising taxes.
 
2013-10-09 11:52:38 AM

Funk Brothers: Peki: SilentStrider: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say it was planned this way.

In that part of my brain that comes up with wild stuff, I've been wondering for sometime if the Tea Party isn't some gigantic ruse to force the US into the 21st century and address some of the stupid shiat in our laws. In spite of the opposition, Obama has overseen some amazing social accomplishments, and part of me wonders if the Tea Party extremism affected that. When one side is screaming to burn down the house, the guy with the garden hose suddenly looks more reasonable, and not just some random guy who showed up with a garden hose.

I'm starting to paint the Tea Party similar to African Americans fighting for racial equality in the 1950s. African Americans were bounded by their white masters under the Jim Crow Laws. Now the Tea Party is bounded by the Republicans who are a minority.

Failure to listen to the Tea Party will hurt this country as we failed in listening to African Americans.


Your predictions are always amusing.
 
2013-10-09 11:53:02 AM

TofuTheAlmighty: DarnoKonrad: Then why does that seem to the sole definition of conservative humor?

Modern conservatism and empathy are mutually exclusive.


I get where you're coming from but I don't think it's that. Because even if you take empathy completely out of the equation, the Tea Party is still pants-on-head retarded.

They're approaching pure id: there's decreasing levels of forethought, reasoning, or contemplation of consequences.

"Why should I have to pay for someone else's preventative care?!"

Hell, there's even an assholish Randian answer: Because it's a lot cheaper than having to pay for their emergency care. And even emergency care is usually cheaper than having to pay for their burial once you factor in all labor costs (which will involve lawyers to settle the deceased's outstanding contracts, debts and assets).

What the Teatards and Randroids refuse to understand is that it is not altruistic, it's cost control.

BUT SOCIALISM!! WHAAARGARBL!
 
2013-10-09 11:53:12 AM
Right, because wars and tax cuts and stripping of EPA regs always goes flawlessly from the get-go... and stay that way.
 
2013-10-09 11:53:23 AM
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey drunk on tea)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey's on the tea)
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey's on the tea)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
(while Whitey's on the tea)
The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
('cause Whitey's on the tea)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey's drunk on tea)
 
2013-10-09 11:54:05 AM
Democrats were too busy shaking their heads at the repeated votes to repeal the ACA that they forgot to upgrade their servers. Simple mistake.
 
2013-10-09 11:54:29 AM

Shrugging Atlas: The main "glitch" I've heard of is the web servers not being able to handle the high level of traffic resulting if not from it's outright popularity than at least a public curious to find out more about it all.


There have been a significant level of major problems overall.  Amongst them are being the web servers being unable to handle the traffic (in large part because the site is poorly done, and needs to be minimalized), some exchanges not having any available doctors or plans yet available, calculators being broken, the current "need to reset all passwords," phone lines being completely overwhelmed, and in a minority of cases, though usually not on the federal level, the returned data being inaccurate.

All of that said, it has almost nothing to do with the ACA itself, but more piss-poor project management of the Exchange rollout.   Speaking from a business standpoint and eschewing the politics entirely, if the people involved in the implementation of the electronic side of this were under my wing, I'd fire the entire staff on the spot.  The public excuses given are indicative of people who have no idea what they're doing, and have never managed a large project before.

All of that said, large projects, no matter what they are, are hard.  They fail in the majority of cases.  For government, they fail at an even higher rate.  This is not unexpected.

Not trying to knock on you at all, but at this point if we're just claiming "load balancing glitches" we're really approaching the point of lying.  It's, from an IT standpoint at least, a complete clusterfark, and the people involved better not get government funding again.  There are a great, great many engineers from a lot of different companies who could have made this work properly with about 10% of the money spent on the infrastructure side.  It's an engineering embarrassment, especially considering how important it is.

/again, has nothing to do with the ACA itself; get tired of seeing people conflate it.  "HAHA WEBSITE BROKEN OBUMMERCARE IS A FAILURE!"
 
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