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(Deadline)   Oliver Stone says the Breaking Bad finale had "too much ridiculous violence," savages the show's ending (Warning: spoilers and hypocrisy)   (deadline.com) divider line 82
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2013-10-09 08:54:59 AM
FTFA: "I happen to not watch the series very much, but I happened to tune in and I saw the most ridiculous 15 minutes of a movie..."

[dumbass] tag works pretty well too.
 
2013-10-09 09:20:02 AM
Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.
 
2013-10-09 09:22:54 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 09:30:28 AM
You put Shia LeBoeuf in a movie. Your opinion is irrelevant.
 
2013-10-09 09:30:29 AM
Yet most surveys say fans were very happy with the ending.

/suck it, Oliver.
 
2013-10-09 09:40:38 AM
I would think differently about Oliver Stone if he were right about something every once in a while.
 
2013-10-09 09:43:38 AM
In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.
 
2013-10-09 09:44:47 AM
So he only watched the last 15 minutes, but he's sure the show was "filled with gun violence"? Even though the only moment in the entire episode where a gun goes off is in that scene?
 
2013-10-09 09:45:45 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 09:47:55 AM

BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculously awesome.


FTFY.
 
2013-10-09 09:50:22 AM

Glitchwerks: FTFY.


I guess, I mean, I recognize that everyone has different tastes and that most people that it was awesome.  I personally just like things to at least be plausible.
 
2013-10-09 09:50:25 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 09:51:54 AM
The guy responsible for Natural Born Killers thinks the BB finale doesn't "respect" violence?

Is he promoting something right now?  Because that's too retarded to be an actual point of view.
 
2013-10-09 09:52:46 AM
While the machine gun in the car trick was perhaps improbable, Walt was always a really smart guy throughout the series, and when given the opportunity to think and plan he had proven to be a genius criminal. So for Heisenberg, this was not so unbelievable.

And Oliver, I know you're irrelevant now, but try to let go of the jealousy, it's just stupid when you're ripping on the most brilliantly constructed show ever on TV.
 
2013-10-09 09:52:57 AM

BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.


More or less so than the nitroglycerin (or whatever) crystal from season 1, the shootout from season three (seriously? Two highly-trained assassins can only hit Hank once?), the Hector-bomb in 4 (no way Gus is the only one affected), and Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

// and Saul still having a law license despite being pretty obviously involved in some shady shiat
// it's no more ridiculous than that tie you're wearing
// 'sides which - it's a pretty simple machine
 
2013-10-09 09:57:19 AM

Dr Dreidel: nitroglycerin (or whatever) crystal


Mercury fulminate.

Dr Dreidel: Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?


He did it before they arrived.
 
2013-10-09 09:59:56 AM

Dr Dreidel: BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.

More or less so than the nitroglycerin (or whatever) crystal from season 1, the shootout from season three (seriously? Two highly-trained assassins can only hit Hank once?), the Hector-bomb in 4 (no way Gus is the only one affected), and Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

// and Saul still having a law license despite being pretty obviously involved in some shady shiat
// it's no more ridiculous than that tie you're wearing
// 'sides which - it's a pretty simple machine


IIRC, the cousins hit Hank four times, and he was shielded by his car, the seat, etc. The Hector-bomb killed Hector, Gus, and Tyrus. Walt was in the cafe before Lydia was, knew which table she always sat at from their weekly meetings, and took away the rest of the Stevia packets in the dispenser. As far as the crystal goes, I want to say that Mythbusters tested it in the BB episode and found that the amount he used was far too small to have that kind of effect.
 
2013-10-09 10:00:05 AM

MayoSlather: While the machine gun in the car trick was perhaps improbable, Walt was always a really smart guy throughout the series, and when given the opportunity to think and plan he had proven to be a genius criminal. So for Heisenberg, this was not so unbelievable.

And Oliver, I know you're irrelevant now, but try to let go of the jealousy, it's just stupid when you're ripping on the most brilliantly constructed show ever on TV.


Genius criminal?  The guy seemed to have more luck than brains 90% of the time.
 
2013-10-09 10:00:10 AM

Dr Dreidel: Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?


It's pretty clear he doctored the Stevia packet (the only one in the caddy at the table Lydia always sat at) before she arrived. Perhaps improbably, but internally consistent.

/Lydia, oh Lydia, say have you met Lydia?
 
2013-10-09 10:00:11 AM

Glitchwerks: Dr Dreidel: Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

He did it before they arrived.


Also, Hank was shot 4 times, not once.

Whatever - my point is, if you've suspended your disbelief about everything leading up to Trunk Gun, what's so special about some springs and gears - built by a guy who's done plenty of cleverer things and built more complex mechanical things before - that suddenly you can't go with Gilligan one one more ride?
 
2013-10-09 10:00:35 AM

Bleyo: The guy responsible for Natural Born Killers thinks the BB finale doesn't "respect" violence?

Is he promoting something right now?  Because that's too retarded to be an actual point of view.


C'mon, don't stoop to the same level of idiocy Stone is partaking in....

NBK's ultraviolence was the point! It was a biting satire of media sensationalizing violence and making idols out of major criminals.
 
2013-10-09 10:02:29 AM

Joelogon: Perhaps improbably, but internally consistent.


That's my point. Or, as NicktheSmoker put it: The guy seemed to have more luck than brains 90% of the time.

// which is saying something, because Walt has lots of brains
 
2013-10-09 10:03:22 AM
I happen to not watch the series very much, but I happened to tune in and I saw the most ridiculous 15 minutes

I mean, usually I'm too busy watching Sri Lanka film school projects to have any time for TV. But I happened to be between 14th century Chinese poetry books for half and hour that Sunday night, got up to see if Amazon had shipped my Criterion Criterion collection (Criterion collection of the best Criterion collection films), and I accidentally bumped my first edition printing of The Corrections ironically signed by Jonathan Frakes off the end table, and it happend to hit the TV remote which happened to be tuned to AMC, since they had been running that marathon of French jazz documentaries back in '97.
 
2013-10-09 10:03:41 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 10:05:17 AM

Dr Dreidel: BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.

More or less so than the nitroglycerin (or whatever) crystal from season 1, the shootout from season three (seriously? Two highly-trained assassins can only hit Hank once?), the Hector-bomb in 4 (no way Gus is the only one affected), and Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

// and Saul still having a law license despite being pretty obviously involved in some shady shiat
// it's no more ridiculous than that tie you're wearing
// 'sides which - it's a pretty simple machine


Wesleeeeeeeey...
 
2013-10-09 10:07:45 AM
Oh come on folks. He has a new documentary out, so he slams something popular and gets his name and the title of the documentary in the news. It's simple free marketing.
 
2013-10-09 10:08:12 AM

rocky_howard: Bleyo: The guy responsible for Natural Born Killers thinks the BB finale doesn't "respect" violence?

Is he promoting something right now?  Because that's too retarded to be an actual point of view.

C'mon, don't stoop to the same level of idiocy Stone is partaking in....

NBK's ultraviolence was the point! It was a biting satire of media sensationalizing violence and making idols out of major criminals.



Oh yeah?  Well... dammit.  Ok, fine.
 
2013-10-09 10:19:21 AM

BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.


Yea, I love the show but the machine guy in the trunk hurt my brain.
 
2013-10-09 10:22:18 AM
When Quentin Tarantino gives you a screenplay, and you fark it up so bad, he demands his name to be removed from the credits, you suck as a director.
 
2013-10-09 10:22:44 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 10:27:10 AM
Savages sucked. Shut up Oliver Stone.
 
2013-10-09 10:27:55 AM
I absolutely loved Natural Born Killers in like 1995. I was also waking up and eating acid every day and pretty stupid.

I'm still stupid and I guess Natural Born Killers is still a pretty great flick, Rodney Dangerfield's best role.
 
2013-10-09 10:28:40 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.


Done in two.
 
2013-10-09 10:29:46 AM
I guess Oliver Stone has a movie coming out soon.
 
2013-10-09 10:30:22 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 10:31:43 AM
Dr Dreidel: BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.

More or less so than the nitroglycerin (or whatever) crystal from season 1, the shootout from season three (seriously? Two highly-trained assassins can only hit Hank once?), the Hector-bomb in 4 (no way Gus is the only one affected), and Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

I presume you must be trolling, but in any case:

1- It was mercury fulminate, which is highly volatile.  The Mythbusters busted this one, though.
2- He was tipped off, remember?  And there is no reference to them being highly trained.  Experienced, maybe, but not necessarily trained.
3- Hector's bomb kills (at least) Gus, Hector, and Tyrese, according to the radio station report at the episodes end.
4- the adulterated Stevia was already in the packet, in the container on the table.   Lydia is a 'creature of habit', which is why Walt was able to nail down the time, location, and table.  I know it looks like this is perhaps a different table than their usual, but that's because this is the first time they shot it from the patio inwards, on account of it being a scene with 3 people at the table.  Vince Gilligan confirms this on the insider podcast.
 
2013-10-09 10:32:45 AM

Grungehamster: Dr Dreidel:
// it's no more ridiculous than that tie you're wearing

Wesleeeeeeeey...


I love you...juh-kuh-luh-

// you're now favorited as "Wesleeeeeeeey"
// and you're a mere butler-slash-vice principal-slash-dehumidifier
 
Byn
2013-10-09 10:41:22 AM
I'm guessing Oliver Stone has a movie coming out soon?
 
2013-10-09 10:43:22 AM

kwame: Oh come on folks. He has a new documentary out, so he slams something popular and gets his name and the title of the documentary in the news. It's simple free marketing.


Aaaaaand we're done here.

Last one out, please turn off the lights.
 
2013-10-09 10:48:23 AM

BiffDangler: In fairness, the machinegun out of the back of the car was ridiculous.


What would have been ridiculous would be Walt wielding it like Rambo.  The solution as shown worked.  It also showed him developing and testing the rig.  There's nothing in his solution that is beyond my mechanical or electrical ability so I give that an easy pass.
 
2013-10-09 10:52:45 AM
Who?
 
2013-10-09 11:03:33 AM

Dr Dreidel: Glitchwerks: Dr Dreidel: Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

He did it before they arrived.

Also, Hank was shot 4 times, not once.

Whatever - my point is, if you've suspended your disbelief about everything leading up to Trunk Gun, what's so special about some springs and gears - built by a guy who's done plenty of cleverer things and built more complex mechanical things before - that suddenly you can't go with Gilligan one one more ride?


So long as it doesn't turn into a three hour tour.
 
2013-10-09 11:10:32 AM
From Madrigal Electromotive's Facebook page:

(Read to the end)

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2013-10-09 11:14:08 AM

crow: From Madrigal Electromotive's Facebook page:

(Read to the end)

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Nice.
 
2013-10-09 11:16:28 AM

Claude the Dog: Dr Dreidel: Glitchwerks: Dr Dreidel: Walt sneaking the Stevia to Lydia despite never putting his hands on the table?

He did it before they arrived.

Also, Hank was shot 4 times, not once.

Whatever - my point is, if you've suspended your disbelief about everything leading up to Trunk Gun, what's so special about some springs and gears - built by a guy who's done plenty of cleverer things and built more complex mechanical things before - that suddenly you can't go with Gilligan one one more ride?

So long as it doesn't turn into a three hour tour.


On the next episode of Gilligan's Meth Lab.

"We're out of methylamine, biatch. What are going to use as a precursor now?"
"Coconuts, Jessie. We'll use coconuts."
 
2013-10-09 11:31:38 AM
I dont find the idea of the M60 mount so far fetched at all. Hell there was this guy that has videos on youtube of all kinds of weird mounts he makes. He made one with a motion detector and a paintball gun.
 
2013-10-09 11:33:09 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: Nobody cares what Oliver Stone thinks.

 
2013-10-09 11:34:59 AM

crow: From Madrigal Electromotive's Facebook page:

(Read to the end)

[scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net image 594x720]


I like that. Why the hell not. Gordon Freeman bears a certain resemblance to Mr. White pre-Heisenburg anyway
 
2013-10-09 11:40:46 AM
Natural Born Killers was awesome.  Long Live Mickey and Mallory.
 
2013-10-09 12:05:22 PM
To be fair, Stone has a point. It was a little over the top, but having not watched the series throughout, he probably missed the "magical" aspects of the story. It was referenced throughout the series that Walter was one lucky and clever son of a biatch regardless of the circumstances he found himself in.

Had it been anyone else, it wouldn't have worked out. Since it was Walter with such an absurd and perfect scheme, everything more or less fell into place. Yes, they could have been a little bit more cruel in designing Walter and Jesses fate, but we all know that people would have biatched to high hell had the series ended off on a darker note. Some artistic compromise was made, but always in favor of the viewer despite the fact.
 
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