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2013-10-09 09:39:13 AM
it's a good idea, especially if there are large periods of time when no one is in the house.
 
2013-10-09 09:56:52 AM
As my smoke detectors are all about ready to be replaced, I'm seriously considering installing these and the matching thermostat. Seems like a great idea. May even be able to integrate the radiant heat under my kitchen and hallway tile. Should be able to save a bunch of energy through careful programming.
 
2013-10-09 11:12:40 AM
Because easy to ignore subtlety is what you want in an early warning system?
 
2013-10-09 11:12:54 AM
Unless of course, you decided to ignore that text message because you are at the middle of a meeting or something.
 
2013-10-09 11:13:49 AM

Invincible: Because easy to ignore subtlety is what you want in an early warning system?


Invincible by 14 seconds? Damn it.
 
2013-10-09 11:14:37 AM
I don't mind if my appliances want to talk to me over WiFi as long as it's over an encrypted link.
(Already have a bunch of stuff on my local network, including 2 Rokus, a wireless printer, iPod, Tablet, etc)
 
2013-10-09 11:15:57 AM
I'll sign up if the texts will actually tell me what's wrong.

As it is, I just get a bunch of beeps that don't tell me wat do. Do I need to replace the battery? Is the sensor defective? Was there an alarm that somebody else put into "sleep" mode for 20 minutes by pressing the button? TELL ME.

And it always happens at flippin' 2AM.
 
2013-10-09 11:16:57 AM
In my old place they had installed a single cheapo battery operated smoke alarm. If I even LOOKED at a frying pan it would go off and it didn't help that instead of a range hood fan the kitchen had a crummy bathroom fan in the ceiling that was clogged. So I had to yank out the battery any time I want some delicious bacon or a hamburger.

New place has a nice system where if the alarm goes off there are little panels in every room with a button on them to silence it but I it hasn't gone off once. It's pretty slick.

You will acknowledge my cool story. You will acknowledge it and LOVE it.
 
2013-10-09 11:17:13 AM
Okay, house burning down now.
 
2013-10-09 11:17:51 AM
You have 5 new alerts:

9:43 Smoke has been detected.
9:55 Interior temperature is 678 degrees.
11:23 Fire dept has been alerted.
11:31 Fire dept has arived.
13:45 You have 24 hours to remove the chared remains of your house to comply with your HOA
 
2013-10-09 11:18:41 AM
I never answer my phone. Would that be a problem?
 
M-G
2013-10-09 11:19:31 AM
It looks like they've done a nice job with these, but at the price, I couldn't justify replacing all of the detectors in the house - there are 7 total.  With the thermostat, you get a rebate from the utilities, and it saves money over time, but these are primarily a convenience factor, rather than something that can be directly cost-justified.

The fact that the sensors in the detector can work with the thermostat for auto-away is a nice touch, as is the automatic shutdown of the furnace if CO is detected.
 
2013-10-09 11:20:09 AM
I thought that they were loud enough so neighbors could hear them and assist.
 
2013-10-09 11:20:24 AM
Is the warning voiced by Christopher Walken?
 
2013-10-09 11:21:19 AM
The people who are stupid enough to take the batteries out and not replace them are likely the same people who won't spend 129 dollars on a 'smart detector'. And who in their right mind would by the model that isn't battery powered? Furthermore the battery powered one has all kinds of bells and whistles I wonder how long it will last on 6AA.

Thanks I'll keep my smoke alarms nice and simple and with a noise that wakes the dead.
 
2013-10-09 11:22:27 AM
Looks like a decent idea (polite notices at first, an actual alarm when it detects a serious level of smoke) but I wonder how reliable it is, and how long the batteries will last if it's not wired in to 120VAC.
 
2013-10-09 11:24:08 AM
"Kids typically don't wake up to horns. They wake up to a mother's voice," explains Fadell to Harry McCracken over at TIME.

::cough:: BS ::cough::  my kids never wake up when my wife calls for them.  Cool concept though, I like this a lot better than the Nest thermostat which I dubed the iPhone of thermostats.
 
2013-10-09 11:24:15 AM

maxximillian: Thanks I'll keep my smoke alarms nice and simple and with a noise that wakes the dead.


This, I'd rather not DIAF because I forgot to charge my phone.
 
2013-10-09 11:26:02 AM
So, if you lose your phone you can find it by burning your house down.
 
2013-10-09 11:28:17 AM

maxximillian: The people who are stupid enough to take the batteries out and not replace them are likely the same people who won't spend 129 dollars on a 'smart detector'. And who in their right mind would by the model that isn't battery powered? Furthermore the battery powered one has all kinds of bells and whistles I wonder how long it will last on 6AA.

Thanks I'll keep my smoke alarms nice and simple and with a noise that wakes the dead.


Although I certainly don't claim to be in my right mind, as an expert at burning things in my kitchen, I will definitely buy these. Could they somehow rig them so that I don't have to get a chair or ladder to change the battery? Could they also make it so that the compartment to open is incredibly simple? I do wonder how long the battery will last.
 
2013-10-09 11:31:41 AM
images.publicradio.org
 
2013-10-09 11:32:47 AM

LadySusan: Although I certainly don't claim to be in my right mind, as an expert at burning things in my kitchen, I will definitely buy these. Could they somehow rig them so that I don't have to get a chair or ladder to change the battery? Could they also make it so that the compartment to open is incredibly simple? I do wonder how long the battery will last.


Just buy ones that are powered by the electric in your home instead of batteries.   All of mine are wired in and I never have to worry about them.
 
2013-10-09 11:32:58 AM
Great thing about central buglar/smoke/CO2 alarms is the ear-destroying volume, making it impossible to hear the phone when the alarm company calls. They probably need to send an ambulance loaded with Depends if the alarm goes off for any reason. They certainly should never install an alarm for retired/old people prone to heart attacks.

For an extra $100, they can install an alarm that sounds but doesn't deafen.
 
2013-10-09 11:36:13 AM
To: SpdrJay

From: Fire Alarm

Subject: Fire

Fire: The Untamed Element, Oldest of Man's Mysteries, Giver of warmth, Destroyer of forests, right now *this* building is on fire.
 
GBB
2013-10-09 11:39:43 AM

dv-ous: I'll sign up if the texts will actually tell me what's wrong.

As it is, I just get a bunch of beeps that don't tell me wat do. Do I need to replace the battery? Is the sensor defective? Was there an alarm that somebody else put into "sleep" mode for 20 minutes by pressing the button? TELL ME.

And it always happens at flippin' 2AM.


It does.  Both in the home and on your smart phone.  Will tell you if the batteries are low, if there's smoke or if there's carbon monoxide.  And, you program them with location descriptions, so it will tell you where in the house.  Also, if you have the Nest Thermostat and it's a carbon monoxide detection and you have a gas furnace, it will shut down the furnace.  Not sure if there are other tricks it can do.

You don't have to get a ladder or chair to dismiss false alarms; just wave at it.
 
2013-10-09 11:44:17 AM

SpdrJay: To: SpdrJay

From: Fire Alarm

Subject: Fire

Fire: The Untamed Element, Oldest of Man's Mysteries, Giver of warmth, Destroyer of forests, right now *this* building is on fire.


Yes, the building is on fire! Leave the building, enact the age-old drama of self-preservation!
 
2013-10-09 11:44:55 AM

here to help: In my old place they had installed a single cheapo battery operated smoke alarm. If I even LOOKED at a frying pan it would go off and it didn't help that instead of a range hood fan the kitchen had a crummy bathroom fan in the ceiling that was clogged. So I had to yank out the battery any time I want some delicious bacon or a hamburger.

New place has a nice system where if the alarm goes off there are little panels in every room with a button on them to silence it but I it hasn't gone off once. It's pretty slick.

You will acknowledge my cool story. You will acknowledge it and LOVE it.


If you are in an apartment, those silencers are likely for the building-wide fire alarm, not your local suite

/I have em too, but I also have what looks like a normal smoke detector that is probably hooked up to the building wide alarm, which would trigger if I didn't silence it fast enough
//Lucky for me, it's actually a well behaved smoke detector, it took a pretty massive fark up to trigger it
 
2013-10-09 11:47:55 AM
I have one that's located near an air duct and it goes off every time the next door neighbor cooks anything.
 
2013-10-09 11:50:54 AM
I just bought some replacement detectors for about $10 each with batteries. you mean instead I could have spent $300 and had to deal with setup and config? Sign me up. Their thermostat is cool, but most people have one or maybe two of those for a house and have a smoke detector in every room, stairwell, + a few in the basement/garage.

/just change the battery(s) every year and vacuum them out every once in a while.
 
2013-10-09 11:54:39 AM

the_sidewinder: here to help: In my old place they had installed a single cheapo battery operated smoke alarm. If I even LOOKED at a frying pan it would go off and it didn't help that instead of a range hood fan the kitchen had a crummy bathroom fan in the ceiling that was clogged. So I had to yank out the battery any time I want some delicious bacon or a hamburger.

New place has a nice system where if the alarm goes off there are little panels in every room with a button on them to silence it but I it hasn't gone off once. It's pretty slick.

You will acknowledge my cool story. You will acknowledge it and LOVE it.

If you are in an apartment, those silencers are likely for the building-wide fire alarm, not your local suite

/I have em too, but I also have what looks like a normal smoke detector that is probably hooked up to the building wide alarm, which would trigger if I didn't silence it fast enough
//Lucky for me, it's actually a well behaved smoke detector, it took a pretty massive fark up to trigger it


Mine takes a hot shower to trigger it, thankyfully it's not hooked into the buiklding wide system or the suppression system.
 
2013-10-09 11:55:21 AM

GBB: You don't have to get a ladder or chair to dismiss false alarms; just wave at it.


There is this wonderful technology that you can use to push the button without needing a chair or a ladder:

i.imgur.com

Seriously, the dismiss button is the diameter of a baseball anymore, just poke it with a stick/broom handle.
 
2013-10-09 11:55:35 AM

the_sidewinder: If you are in an apartment, those silencers are likely for the building-wide fire alarm, not your local suite

/I have em too, but I also have what looks like a normal smoke detector that is probably hooked up to the building wide alarm, which would trigger if I didn't silence it fast enough
//Lucky for me, it's actually a well behaved smoke detector, it took a pretty massive fark up to trigger it


Perhaps. All they said when I moved in was to press them if I didn't want to hear it. Either way this is much nicer place... aside from the soundproofing which sucks and makes me question whether the party walls are properly insulated with Roxull which is also more soundproof than the normal stuff.

*it does ca-ca-ca-cocaine*
 
2013-10-09 11:55:49 AM
... which you'll begin ignoring immediately.

/ why not have it set off your car alarm too
 
2013-10-09 11:56:30 AM
Getting a kick, because the smoke detector in my bedroom chirped me awake the other night, and I had no 9v batteries, so i had to take it out of the ceiling just to be able to sleep. My lack of prepardedness should have cost me my life, but the God of Fire had mercy on me that night.
 
2013-10-09 11:59:55 AM
$129? Steve Jobs running that company?
 
2013-10-09 12:06:17 PM
k srsly ur house is on fire! r u going 2 escape? kthxbai
 
2013-10-09 12:14:36 PM
I have dogs.  Nothing gets past their attention. They don't need batteries, either.
 
2013-10-09 12:15:43 PM
Hey I don't wanna be woken up by a pesky fire alarm just because my house is on fire!!

NO WAY!!
 
GBB
2013-10-09 12:20:05 PM

Burr: GBB: You don't have to get a ladder or chair to dismiss false alarms; just wave at it.

There is this wonderful technology that you can use to push the button without needing a chair or a ladder:

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]

Seriously, the dismiss button is the diameter of a baseball anymore, just poke it with a stick/broom handle.


you're right.  This is an absolutely ridiculous feature.
Thanks for pointing that out.
 
2013-10-09 12:23:46 PM
<rant>

If it works well, I'd pay for it.  The only detectors I can find around here or POS Kiddie brand.  The stupid things are ridiculously sensitive.  The last one I had has a "hush" button that you have to hold down for a few seconds while standing on a chair while it blows out your ear drums.  Why do you have to hold it down for a few seconds?  I have no farking idea, but my ear drums are not impressed.

The newest one I got had a remote, which I thought would be awesome.  The thing is even more sensitive than the last one and is always going off.  The remote?  sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  The awesome part is even after hitting the button, it goes through 3 more beep beep beep cycles before turning off.  So you have no idea if it actually worked when you press the button, you have to wait 3 cycles, then try again!  I don't know why it is so complicated to have a hush feature.

Oh, and the alarm is a good 15 feet down the hall from my kitchen and I've got a high flow exhaust fan.  And I only burn stuff some times.
</rant>
 
2013-10-09 12:27:34 PM

GBB: dv-ous: I'll sign up if the texts will actually tell me what's wrong.

As it is, I just get a bunch of beeps that don't tell me wat do. Do I need to replace the battery? Is the sensor defective? Was there an alarm that somebody else put into "sleep" mode for 20 minutes by pressing the button? TELL ME.

And it always happens at flippin' 2AM.

It does.  Both in the home and on your smart phone.  Will tell you if the batteries are low, if there's smoke or if there's carbon monoxide.  And, you program them with location descriptions, so it will tell you where in the house.  Also, if you have the Nest Thermostat and it's a carbon monoxide detection and you have a gas furnace, it will shut down the furnace.  Not sure if there are other tricks it can do.

You don't have to get a ladder or chair to dismiss false alarms; just wave at it.


Hmm..... Okay, WANT.
 
2013-10-09 12:31:16 PM

The_Fuzz: <rant>

If it works well, I'd pay for it.  The only detectors I can find around here or POS Kiddie brand.  The stupid things are ridiculously sensitive.  The last one I had has a "hush" button that you have to hold down for a few seconds while standing on a chair while it blows out your ear drums.  Why do you have to hold it down for a few seconds?  I have no farking idea, but my ear drums are not impressed.

The newest one I got had a remote, which I thought would be awesome.  The thing is even more sensitive than the last one and is always going off.  The remote?  sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  The awesome part is even after hitting the button, it goes through 3 more beep beep beep cycles before turning off.  So you have no idea if it actually worked when you press the button, you have to wait 3 cycles, then try again!  I don't know why it is so complicated to have a hush feature.

Oh, and the alarm is a good 15 feet down the hall from my kitchen and I've got a high flow exhaust fan.  And I only burn stuff some times.
</rant>


You're right, sorry that you don't have internet access to find better ones.

Burr: GBB: You don't have to get a ladder or chair to dismiss false alarms; just wave at it.

There is this wonderful technology that you can use to push the button without needing a chair or a ladder:

[i.imgur.com image 500x500]

Seriously, the dismiss button is the diameter of a baseball anymore, just poke it with a stick/broom handle.


I know it's too difficult to find a stick or broom to dismiss instead of using your chair to climb up so you can get your ears blasted out. Such a hassle as simple things in life.
 
2013-10-09 12:34:05 PM

M-G: It looks like they've done a nice job with these, but at the price, I couldn't justify replacing all of the detectors in the house - there are 7 total.  With the thermostat, you get a rebate from the utilities, and it saves money over time, but these are primarily a convenience factor, rather than something that can be directly cost-justified.

The fact that the sensors in the detector can work with the thermostat for auto-away is a nice touch, as is the automatic shutdown of the furnace if CO is detected.


I'll buy one if it doesn't go off if while I'm cooking steaks in the kitchen.

/which is why my present smoke detector has been ripped out and thrown out the window
 
2013-10-09 12:37:00 PM
"And in the event of honest to goodness emergency situations where you need to get out of the house and in a hurry, the app pulls up a What to Do Feature that reminds you of your premeditated emergency plan while providing emergency contact information and more "

1) Get out of house
2) Call 911
3) Call insurance company

Thank god I had an app to tell me what to do.
 
2013-10-09 01:01:56 PM
But how will I know when dinner's ready?
 
2013-10-09 01:43:07 PM

TNel: LadySusan: Although I certainly don't claim to be in my right mind, as an expert at burning things in my kitchen, I will definitely buy these. Could they somehow rig them so that I don't have to get a chair or ladder to change the battery? Could they also make it so that the compartment to open is incredibly simple? I do wonder how long the battery will last.

Just buy ones that are powered by the electric in your home instead of batteries.   All of mine are wired in and I never have to worry about them.


So what happens if the power goes out in your house?
 
2013-10-09 03:22:56 PM

maxximillian: TNel: LadySusan: Although I certainly don't claim to be in my right mind, as an expert at burning things in my kitchen, I will definitely buy these. Could they somehow rig them so that I don't have to get a chair or ladder to change the battery? Could they also make it so that the compartment to open is incredibly simple? I do wonder how long the battery will last.

Just buy ones that are powered by the electric in your home instead of batteries.   All of mine are wired in and I never have to worry about them.

So what happens if the power goes out in your house?


I would bet they have a battery but i've never looked kind of like my CO meter that is plugged in but has a battery for when the power goes out.
 
2013-10-09 03:28:44 PM

TNel: So what happens if the power goes out in your house?

I would bet they have a battery but i've never looked kind of like my CO meter that is plugged in but has a battery for when the power goes out.


Just looked them up and they do have a battery inside for incase the power goes out.   I doubt they would be able to sell them if they didn't.  I would be more worried about this new one that's wifi.  I love the idea of all stuff running off of wifi but that would mean modem/router needs to be on a battery backup.
 
2013-10-09 04:16:04 PM
I want a fire alarm to scream this out as a warning

Fire: The Untamed Element, Oldest of Man's Mysteries, Giver of warmth, Destroyer of forests, right now *this* building is on fire.
Yes! The building is on fire! Leave the building! Enact the Age Old drama of Self-Preservation!


//hopefully not obscure
 
2013-10-09 09:44:54 PM

TNel: maxximillian: TNel: LadySusan: Although I certainly don't claim to be in my right mind, as an expert at burning things in my kitchen, I will definitely buy these. Could they somehow rig them so that I don't have to get a chair or ladder to change the battery? Could they also make it so that the compartment to open is incredibly simple? I do wonder how long the battery will last.

Just buy ones that are powered by the electric in your home instead of batteries.   All of mine are wired in and I never have to worry about them.

So what happens if the power goes out in your house?

I would bet they have a battery but i've never looked kind of like my CO meter that is plugged in but has a battery for when the power goes out.


I will admit to being crazy as a loon but does this mean I need  to hire an electrician to run wires through my ceiling? My house was built in 1947, I don't want to touch any of the electrical wires. I suspect that they will just turn to dust. Does just crimping up the modern ground wire lead to more fires because I've done that when installing the newfangled outlets. Red to red, black to black, huh, what's this third wire? Oh well.

Really, I think dying in my sleep from smoke inhalation is one of the better ways to go.
 
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