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(Washington Post)   "Yet while 28 of 44 U.S. presidents have found a way to lead in divided government, this president has not"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 293
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2013-10-08 10:01:43 PM
Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. There is really nothing to compare this to. These assholes had YEARS to pass actual spending bills and they f*cked them up every time trying to defund the ACA or starve poor people.

Now they want a deal at the 11th hour because they want to use that as leverage?

They can literally f*ck their own face.
 
2013-10-08 10:20:29 PM
You can lead a republican to a solution, but you can't make him vote for it (or even bring it up for a vote).
 
2013-10-08 10:20:56 PM
I clicked to see what kind of water headed trauma patient would author such a derpified piece of meaningless rhetoric and I was shocked to find out it was worse than I thought.
 
2013-10-08 10:22:56 PM
Because he's not allowed to use actual lead
 
2013-10-08 10:29:07 PM
Totally concur, NewportBarGuy and Ambivalence, the outright lies by  Eric Cantor (R-Vagina) in this article are stupid. Didn't the Democrats and President Obamanegotiate and agree previously this year on budget, taxes and other fiscal issues?

The GOP-led House originates budget and funding bills, not the President who submits his budget proposal to them for review. The HouseRepublicans are literally holding our government, economy and nation hostage over their demands. I wouldn't reward their outrageous behavior with concessions. Let the shiat hit the fan and see who really leads America out of another manufactured crisis.

/Democrats: Fixing Republican messes since 1933.
 
2013-10-08 10:35:01 PM
Because he's dealing with a bunch of whiny assholes.
 
2013-10-08 10:39:04 PM
I'll just leave these here.

0.tqn.com

images.sodahead.com

woodgatesview.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-08 10:40:30 PM

Lorelle: Because he's dealing with a bunch of whiny assholes.


Eric Cantor wants the to be Speaker of the House. He has a raging Boehner for it.

Remember how f*cked up the cliques were in high school? This is 1000X worse.
 
2013-10-08 10:43:09 PM
Because Eric Cantor is a completely unbiased source when it comes to opinions about the President....
 
2013-10-08 10:47:13 PM
NewportBarGuy:

Eric Cantor wants the to be Speaker of the House. He has a raging Boehner for it.

Remember how f*cked up the cliques were in high school? This is 1000X worse.


Hmmm...my high school had the following groups: cheerleaders, jocks, socs (most of whom included the first two groups), band members, drama people, stoners, dorks, Vogues (which included the disco and new wave kids), and TJs (our term for the ESL kids because most of them were illegales from Mexico).

The socs could be assholish at times, but everyone else was cool.

/hung out with band & drama people, stoners, and dorks
 
2013-10-08 10:51:22 PM
Oops, forgot the gang members and Holy Molies (religious nuts).

One of the Holy Molies ended up spending time in prison for sex crimes against kids under 14.
 
2013-10-08 11:10:30 PM

NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. .


And we're done here.
 
2013-10-08 11:20:15 PM

Lorelle: NewportBarGuy:

Eric Cantor wants the to be Speaker of the House. He has a raging Boehner for it.

Remember how f*cked up the cliques were in high school? This is 1000X worse.

Hmmm...my high school had the following groups: cheerleaders, jocks, socs (most of whom included the first two groups), band members, drama people, stoners, dorks, Vogues (which included the disco and new wave kids), and TJs (our term for the ESL kids because most of them were illegales from Mexico).

The socs could be assholish at times, but everyone else was cool.

/hung out with band & drama people, stoners, and dorks


1.bp.blogspot.com

I read that in her voice.
 
2013-10-08 11:37:12 PM

Sgt Otter: I read that in her voice.


You are a very sick man. Heh...

Let me share with you...

I got a packet today. A veteran's entire military and medical record. By mistake because the VARO is closed. So, I can clone this guy and open credit and I have all his info.

I grab his 5lb file and take it to the right people. WTF, man? This shiat is getting nuts.
 
2013-10-08 11:39:13 PM

NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. There is really nothing to compare this to. These assholes had YEARS to pass actual spending bills and they f*cked them up every time trying to defund the ACA or starve poor people.

Now they want a deal at the 11th hour because they want to use that as leverage?

They can literally f*ck their own face.


Can't really say it any better than this.
 
2013-10-08 11:46:56 PM

NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. There is really nothing to compare this to. These assholes had YEARS to pass actual spending bills and they f*cked them up every time trying to defund the ACA or starve poor people.

Now they want a deal at the 11th hour because they want to use that as leverage?

They can literally f*ck their own face.


Today's Republicans have a lot in common with the southern plantation owners back in Lincoln's day.  While back then it was overt slavery, today's Republican party is doing their darndest to preserve economic slavery.  Give the rich tax cuts, deregulate corporations, destroy unions, keep wages low, eliminate safety net programs, keep poor people away from health insurance, etc.  It's all a ploy to push as many working and middle class people as possible into the ranks of the abject poor so that they'll be grateful for whatever meager crap job their corporate masters deem to to bestow upon them for minimum wage.

If Lincoln could see what had become of the Republican party today he'd either start chasing them down with a shotgun or start sobbing uncontrollably in the corner.
 
2013-10-08 11:47:41 PM

NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. There is really nothing to compare this to. These assholes had YEARS to pass actual spending bills and they f*cked them up every time trying to defund the ACA or starve poor people.

Now they want a deal at the 11th hour because they want to use that as leverage?

They can literally f*ck their own face.



.....and Lincoln was a Republican!  Though by today's GOP standards, he'd be a commie liberal hippie.  Also, it's amazing the kind of overlap that exists between the insane people Lincoln had to deal with and the insane people Obama has to deal with.  It's almost like both groups represent the same sort of scourge of humanity.  Hmm.
 
2013-10-08 11:51:13 PM
i1282.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-08 11:56:15 PM

TuteTibiImperes: NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people. There is really nothing to compare this to. These assholes had YEARS to pass actual spending bills and they f*cked them up every time trying to defund the ACA or starve poor people.

Now they want a deal at the 11th hour because they want to use that as leverage?

They can literally f*ck their own face.

Today's Republicans have a lot in common with the southern plantation owners back in Lincoln's day.  While back then it was overt slavery, today's Republican party is doing their darndest to preserve economic slavery.  Give the rich tax cuts, deregulate corporations, destroy unions, keep wages low, eliminate safety net programs, keep poor people away from health insurance, etc.  It's all a ploy to push as many working and middle class people as possible into the ranks of the abject poor so that they'll be grateful for whatever meager crap job their corporate masters deem to to bestow upon them for minimum wage.

If Lincoln could see what had become of the Republican party today he'd either start chasing them down with a shotgun or start sobbing uncontrollably in the corner.


www.thelmagazine.com
Abraham Lincoln: Republican Hunter

/WTF... they're bloodsuckers, too
 
2013-10-08 11:58:27 PM
Well, I liked that he put debt problem in quotes.
 
2013-10-09 12:27:50 AM

NewportBarGuy: Sgt Otter: I read that in her voice.

You are a very sick man. Heh...

Let me share with you...

I got a packet today. A veteran's entire military and medical record. By mistake because the VARO is closed. So, I can clone this guy and open credit and I have all his info.

I grab his 5lb file and take it to the right people. WTF, man? This shiat is getting nuts.




Can you send my students some farking money, please? Hit the "disburse" button.
 
2013-10-09 12:37:17 AM
By Eric Cantor

And that's where I stopped reading. Was any of it anything other than blatant horseshiat?
 
2013-10-09 12:43:12 AM
Yes, yes. Blame the doctor for having a patient who's batshiat crazy.
 
2013-10-09 01:18:48 AM
What else do you expect from people who insist that all government is awful oppression and then ask to be part of government?
 
2013-10-09 01:31:04 AM
The headline is correct, he's really failed in his leadership.

Obama's biggest failure of leadership was "negotiating" and "compromising" with these unamerican farktards throughout his first term. He capitulated too much, and now they know they can get him to fold backwards.
 
2013-10-09 01:36:59 AM
Part of me wonders how much people in the GOP believe what they say when it comes to Obama. It's pretty well known that the very night Obama was elected, the GOP Congressional leaders held a meeting in Washington where they decided that it was going to their strategy that they would unanimously oppose anything Obama proposed; by unanimously opposing literally everything, Obama would by definition become a 'partisan' and 'extremist' who wouldn't be able to work with the GOP. It was a political move completely devoid of policy, and, in addition to the reporting about that meeting in DC before Obama was even inaugurated, people like Mitch McConnell have basically admitted to doing this on the record.

So, it's pretty much established that GOP opposition to Obama was a pre-ordained policy completely independent of anything Obama proposed or the manner in which he 'led' anything. Now, it's one thing for reporters to have this information and then still report GOP opposition as though its principled or ideological; that's just Orwellian and makes you want to vomit every day, as it has for 5 years. The media should be ashamed of itself.

But the GOP itself is a little different. Have they come to believe their own lie? I mean, Cantor was one of the people at that meeting in 2008. Does he actually believe this is Obama's fault as a leader, or is he lying all the time? I actually tend to believe the GOP believes this stuff, since if you live a lie for long enough you really have no choice but to start believing it, or you go insane. But who knows.
 
2013-10-09 01:50:48 AM
He doesn't lead.  He's uranium.

/everybody knows that
 
2013-10-09 01:55:38 AM

DamnYankees: makes you want to vomit every day


I've been doing that since the Gulf of Tonkin.

Keeps me slender.
 
2013-10-09 02:01:57 AM
During 28 of 44 presidencies the Congress in a divided government has found a way to work with the President, this Congress has not.
 
2013-10-09 02:02:48 AM
Might be a valid point if it was anyone but Cantor trying to make it.
 
2013-10-09 02:03:38 AM

Sgt Otter: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 705x301]

I read that in her voice.


Cantor is definitely NOT a righteous dude.
 
2013-10-09 02:05:00 AM

fusillade762: By Eric Cantor

And that's where I stopped reading. Was any of it anything other than blatant horseshiat?


I was ready to predict this was going to be another George Will sophistry-fest. Either way, not worth clicking.
 
2013-10-09 02:07:47 AM

Jim_Callahan: Might be a valid point if it was anyone but Cantor trying to make it.


Not even then.
 
2013-10-09 02:09:12 AM
Seriously.

Fuk repulicans.

I'm so sick of this shat, I can't even get super pissed anymore. I'm just depressed.
 
2013-10-09 02:11:46 AM
'They are unruly, and therefore cannot be ruled.  To challenge them is to court Death.'

Thanos smiles.
 
2013-10-09 02:12:02 AM

Jim_Callahan: Might be a valid point if it was anyone but Cantor trying to make it.


no. It's not a valid point no matter who makes it.
 
2013-10-09 02:12:21 AM
fta:

"Working in divided government is not new. As recently as 1995, President Bill Clinton worked overtime with House Speaker Newt Gingrich to reach bipartisan compromise over the debt ceiling and to end a government shutdown.

Neither Clinton nor congressional Republicans got everything they wanted from those negotiations. They found consensus, and that consensus moved the country forward; they managed to balance the budget because they worked together."

yes, please tell us how well working with the republicans worked out for clinton.
 
2013-10-09 02:14:54 AM

AirForceVet: I'll just leave these here.

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[images.sodahead.com image 350x175]

[woodgatesview.files.wordpress.com image 500x360]


I have a solution to the jobs issue. We start mining the shipping channels.
 
2013-10-09 02:15:16 AM
I was going to guess Jennifer Rubin but this is about as stupid.
 
2013-10-09 02:16:56 AM
You know I can't help but wonder how many of these Congress critters are sitting in the bathroom trying to rub one out while reading a copy of the Turner Diaries these days. Just sitting there and mumbling to themselves "soon..........soon......"
 
2013-10-09 02:17:20 AM
Reagan had Tip O'Neal, a pragmatic and reasonable speaker.  Obama has a guy who is afraid of his party's right wing and doesn't give a shiat about our country.
 
2013-10-09 02:19:10 AM
Didn't click the link, but I see its an article by Cantor.  If he were to have a massive heart attack right now I would not shed one bloody tear.  It'd also allow Bonehead to say, "OK, let's bring this CR to a vote!"
 
2013-10-09 02:20:34 AM

Cagey B: What else do you expect from people who insist that all government is awful oppression and then ask to be part of government?


"Bad government--indeed, bloated, inefficient, corrupt, and unfair government--is the only kind of conservative government there is. Conservatives cannot govern well for the same reason that vegetarians cannot prepare a world-class boeuf bourguignon: If you believe that what you are called upon to do is wrong, you are not likely to do it very well."

Alan Wolfe
 
2013-10-09 02:33:57 AM
44th post!
 
2013-10-09 02:34:23 AM
FTA:

"Working in divided government is not new. As recently as 1995, President Bill Clinton worked overtime with House Speaker Newt Gingrich to reach bipartisan compromise over the debt ceiling and to end a government shutdown.

Neither Clinton nor congressional Republicans got everything they wanted from those negotiations. They found consensus, and that consensus moved the country forward; they managed to balance the budget because they worked together."


Oh, so the Republican issue about this debt ceiling is about this debt ceiling?  I thought it was about a completely unrelated subject and this was just a petulant reaction to majority rule.
 
m00
2013-10-09 02:37:40 AM

NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people.


You realize Lincoln was a Republican right, and the insane people he dealt with were Democrats... right?
 
2013-10-09 02:39:19 AM

m00: NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people.

You realize Lincoln was a Republican right, and the insane people he dealt with were Democrats... right?


And you realize that what both parties stand for has changed immensely over the past 150 years as well, right?
 
2013-10-09 02:40:28 AM
Andrew Jackson found a way to lead America through the Nullification Crisis by carrying a loaded pistol and outright threatening to hang South Carolina's politicians, one of whom was his Vice President.

Do you really want to us to look into our past for solutions, Congressman?
 
m00
2013-10-09 02:41:17 AM

TuteTibiImperes: And you realize that what both parties stand for has changed immensely over the past 150 years as well, right?


Corporations?
 
2013-10-09 02:43:48 AM

m00: NewportBarGuy: Not since Lincoln has a President had to deal with such a batch of insane people.

You realize Lincoln was a Republican right, and the insane people he dealt with were Democrats... right?


A lot has changed in the Republican Party since 1860.

i983.photobucket.com
 
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