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2013-10-08 08:20:51 PM
Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?
 
2013-10-08 08:28:11 PM

fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?


The same sort of person who pays local guides money to lug all their shiat up a mountain and set up five-star-worthy tent villages every night just so they can say they hiked the Andes. Or any such similar experience. Real-life grit with lots of lotion.
 
2013-10-08 09:19:12 PM
There is no way to know what it's like to really be homeless or poor by trying it out for a few.days. As long as you have a home and a paycheck to go back to, your experience will never be the same as real life.
 
2013-10-08 09:31:29 PM
some cheap beer and a few packs of cigarettes to share was always enough to get me directly into the homeless community. it's not a bad way to spend an evening.
 
2013-10-08 09:42:46 PM

PastaFazoole: There is no way to know what it's like to really be homeless or poor by trying it out for a few.days. As long as you have a home and a paycheck to go back to, your experience will never be the same as real life.


QFT
 
2013-10-08 10:16:36 PM

fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?


Rich Liberals who are experiencing Liberal guilt.
 
2013-10-08 10:18:32 PM
Formerly homeless entrepreneur is just trying to fleece you of your money, because he knows what it's like to be homeless.
 
2013-10-08 10:20:06 PM
Seattle seems like the perfect place to run this scam.  The hipsters will be sharing this life experience ad nauseum.
 
2013-10-08 10:20:22 PM
No heroin included? That doesn't seem like the real Seattle homeless experience to me.
 
2013-10-08 10:21:40 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Formerly homeless entrepreneur is just trying to fleece you of your money, because he knows what it's like to be homeless.


this man was never homeless.  he has to much ambition and energy
 
2013-10-08 10:24:45 PM
Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..
 
2013-10-08 10:28:44 PM

PastaFazoole: There is no way to know what it's like to really be homeless or poor by trying it out for a few.days. As long as you have a home and a paycheck to go back to, your experience will never be the same as real life.


Yeah, but if this guy does it right, he will run up the credit card and the "customer" will be left a ruined wreck... no one to press charges, etc.  It never happened.  They just.... never were.  Disappeared.  Went to Alaska, last I heard.
 
2013-10-08 10:28:45 PM

styckx: Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..


What do they do when it rains? I heard it rains a lot in Seattle. I would think they would be decked out in gore-tex. That's what I would be wearing if I was homeless in Seattle.
 
2013-10-08 10:29:46 PM
There's a certain variety of tour guide to favelas and other dangerous slums. Less likely to get killed in Seattle. Or infected.
 
2013-10-08 10:31:49 PM

redhook: fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?

Rich Liberals who are experiencing Liberal guilt.


That comment is my nomination for Freudian slip of the week.
 
2013-10-08 10:33:02 PM
I don't see any problem with this.

I wouldn't do it myself since I agree with the above statements that you could just do that for free.

Plus that is not the way I would be homeless (living in a big city).  If a homeless person wants to have any hope that they will avoid violence and eventually get out of the homeless condition, the last thing they should do is hang around with other homeless folks.  Live homeless in the middle of a big city? Hell no, I would not.  The first thing I would do is go to the library and start learning everything I could about making your own shelter, what native plants are edible, how to hunt, skin and gut animals, etc..  Then I would set myself up in a rural area just outside the city.  Sure, the city has its advantages; shelters (which I would seriously avoid unless it were an emergency), bins of perfectly good food behind supermarkets, places to get supplies, etc. but that is not where you want to sleep if you are homeless.  You want to be out of sight, out of mind and away from any other homeless.  When forced to interact with folks you want to be able to pass as normal and interact with folks who might just know of a job for you. In short, the homeless that live in the city are lazy, stupid, or both.
 
2013-10-08 10:34:28 PM
Do you also get beaten, stabbed and raped or does that cost extra?
 
2013-10-08 10:37:46 PM

Jixa: Do you also get beaten, stabbed and raped or does that cost extra?


For an extra $50.00 you can get the Supremo Package where teenage delinquents beat you and then set you on fire.
 
2013-10-08 10:38:31 PM

Mark Ratner: styckx: Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..

What do they do when it rains? I heard it rains a lot in Seattle. I would think they would be decked out in gore-tex. That's what I would be wearing if I was homeless in Seattle.


It really doesn't rain that much.. It's just cloudly a lot with a 10 minute little sprinkle than an awesome break in the clouds.

This is what Seattle looked like the day I was there

i.imgur.com

Driving back to Tacoma after a rain spell. One of the awesome cloud breaks,
 
2013-10-08 10:38:56 PM

Jixa: Do you also get beaten, stabbed and raped or does that cost extra?


That depends. Who do you want to be your victimizer? Cop, suburban brat in daddy's car for their big city adventure or fellow homeless person?

Actually, those are all free, except for the homeless person. For that, you'd have to pony up a tailor made.
 
2013-10-08 10:39:11 PM

styckx: Mark Ratner: styckx: Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..

What do they do when it rains? I heard it rains a lot in Seattle. I would think they would be decked out in gore-tex. That's what I would be wearing if I was homeless in Seattle.

It really doesn't rain that much.. It's just cloudly a lot with a 10 minute little sprinkle than an awesome break in the clouds.

This is what Seattle looked like the day I was there

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

Driving back to Tacoma after a rain spell. One of the awesome cloud breaks,


Er the second picture.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-08 10:39:43 PM

fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?


Done in one.
 
2013-10-08 10:41:06 PM
How about being a hobo?  That sounds like more fun.  Travelling the country by rail, avoiding the "bulls" (railway cops), using a secret language, making mulligan stew and trying other tasty vittles and having all your worldly possessions in a handkerchief wrapped around a walking stick.

Yup, that's the life for me, pal.
 
2013-10-08 10:48:19 PM

jsmilky: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Formerly homeless entrepreneur is just trying to fleece you of your money, because he knows what it's like to be homeless.

this man was never homeless.  he has to much ambition and energy


I've met a lot of homeless people with an excess of ambition and energy.

They just focused it on things like shiatting on bus stop benches as a means to stop the Illuminati from listening in.
 
2013-10-08 10:49:37 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: redhook: fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?

Rich Liberals who are experiencing Liberal guilt.

That comment is my nomination for Freudian slip of the week.


Why?
 
2013-10-08 10:52:17 PM
This guy did it first with Omar's School for Beggars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Abel
 
2013-10-08 10:54:44 PM
This company is fake until proven real.


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Well you don't need $2,000 to be homeless, man. Just take a look at my cousin, he's broke, homeless.
 
2013-10-08 10:55:35 PM
Old and busted: Slum tourism

New scourge: Skid Row LARPing
 
2013-10-08 11:04:42 PM
We hadn't been in Fremont a half hour and found ourselves almost surrounded by an Obamaville.

/appropriately, near the troll
 
2013-10-08 11:08:55 PM

styckx: styckx: Mark Ratner: styckx: Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..

What do they do when it rains? I heard it rains a lot in Seattle. I would think they would be decked out in gore-tex. That's what I would be wearing if I was homeless in Seattle.

It really doesn't rain that much.. It's just cloudly a lot with a 10 minute little sprinkle than an awesome break in the clouds.

This is what Seattle looked like the day I was there

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

Driving back to Tacoma after a rain spell. One of the awesome cloud breaks,

Er the second picture.


I might like it there. I like it when it rains, although Midwestern thunderstorms are pretty cool too, unless there's a tornado. Or damaging hail storms, but I did get a new roof and siding last year, so that was nice.
 
2013-10-08 11:09:57 PM
for $400, you can feed 200+ needy folks a great dinner, and help me cook and serve,
some of the faces you see will break your heart, and might change your attitude about some of our nation's poor and hungry.
 
2013-10-08 11:12:53 PM

Jixa: Do you also get beaten, stabbed and raped or does that cost extra?


robsmovievault.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-08 11:15:45 PM

PastaFazoole: There is no way to know what it's like to really be homeless or poor by trying it out for a few.days. As long as you have a home and a paycheck to go back to, your experience will never be the same as real life.


This. It's almost like thinking that baby sitting for a day is the same as having a kid.
 
2013-10-08 11:17:00 PM
Aw, and he blocked his Facebook page because he was getting mean comments like this:

Momany blocked the ability for people to comment on his course's Facebook page after receiving negative comments. One commenter said, "Homeless people are not exhibits," while another said, "This is horrible. It is one thing to bring attention and awareness of the homeless situation in our community, but to charge $2,000 AND take away a bed from someone who has no other choice? Repugnant."

You think that's bad? Come on over to Fark, Momany boy, and let us savage you for a day. You'll never feel abused again.

Oh, and your Course in Applied Homelessness sucks.
 
2013-10-08 11:25:17 PM
www.forafewmoviesmore.com
upload.wikimedia.org

What a sub-urban experience might entail...
 
2013-10-08 11:29:53 PM

SirEattonHogg: How about being a hobo?  That sounds like more fun.  Travelling the country by rail, avoiding the "bulls" (railway cops), using a secret language, making mulligan stew and trying other tasty vittles and having all your worldly possessions in a handkerchief wrapped around a walking stick.

Yup, that's the life for me, pal.




The punk rolled up his big blue eyes
And said to the jocker, "Sandy,
I've hiked and hiked and wandered too,
But I ain't seen any candy.
I've hiked and hiked till my feet are sore
And I'll be damned if I hike any more
To be buggered sore like a hobo's whore
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
 
2013-10-08 11:33:55 PM
is my idea of a 'fat kid farm' where I work their little asses off and hardly feed them nothing still cool though?

send me your obese children!
 
2013-10-08 11:38:32 PM
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"When you go, be sure to wear my newest collection, Derelicte!"
 
2013-10-08 11:42:50 PM
Ah! Entrepreneurship.
 
2013-10-08 11:45:21 PM

SirEattonHogg: How about being a hobo?  That sounds like more fun.  Travelling the country by rail, avoiding the "bulls" (railway cops), using a secret language, making mulligan stew and trying other tasty vittles and having all your worldly possessions in a handkerchief wrapped around a walking stick.

Yup, that's the life for me, pal.


And the songs! The musical and storytelling traditions of the American Hobo are unparalleled.

And then there's the art:  http://www.hobonickels.org/
 
2013-10-08 11:58:28 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: SirEattonHogg: How about being a hobo?  That sounds like more fun.  Travelling the country by rail, avoiding the "bulls" (railway cops), using a secret language, making mulligan stew and trying other tasty vittles and having all your worldly possessions in a handkerchief wrapped around a walking stick.

Yup, that's the life for me, pal.

And the songs! The musical and storytelling traditions of the American Hobo are unparalleled.

And then there's the art:  http://www.hobonickels.org/




art!
 
2013-10-09 12:03:28 AM
Please...that's just a sub-urban legend

/offer a snackrifice
 
2013-10-09 12:14:31 AM

fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?


I came into this thread thinking the same thing.
A lot of people wonder what it will be like living in the streets; how would you find shelter, how hungry would you have to be before you rummage in a trash bin, etc.
but the thinking was always as simple as Just walk out that door without any money or cards.
Or drive downtown and just leave everything in the car and walk away.

However, that said, I think what this guy is offering is an urban survival course (how to find food/shelter, avoid fights/danger/cops), which some people might appreciate.

/obviously dnrta
 
2013-10-09 12:20:03 AM

styckx: styckx: Mark Ratner: styckx: Seattle and Tacomas homeless population is weird..  You rarely see them during the day as they usually camp out on green lawns near apartments.. But as soon as dusk kicks in the streets get this weird empty ghostly feel to them and the homeless people start emerging like zombies from the Thriller video..

What do they do when it rains? I heard it rains a lot in Seattle. I would think they would be decked out in gore-tex. That's what I would be wearing if I was homeless in Seattle.

It really doesn't rain that much.. It's just cloudly a lot with a 10 minute little sprinkle than an awesome break in the clouds.

This is what Seattle looked like the day I was there

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

Driving back to Tacoma after a rain spell. One of the awesome cloud breaks,

Er the second picture.

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


This. More like London, really. Bit of rain early on, then it clears up. Tour guides always make it a point to mention Dallas gets more rain than Seattle. It's really nice, excepting for all the hipsters, and homeless people. And, um, fish mongers.
 
2013-10-09 12:37:10 AM

Resident Muslim: fusillade762: Who would pay $2,000 for something you could experience for free?

I came into this thread thinking the same thing.
A lot of people wonder what it will be like living in the streets; how would you find shelter, how hungry would you have to be before you rummage in a trash bin, etc.
but the thinking was always as simple as Just walk out that door without any money or cards.
Or drive downtown and just leave everything in the car and walk away.

However, that said, I think what this guy is offering is an urban survival course (how to find food/shelter, avoid fights/danger/cops), which some people might appreciate.

/obviously dnrta


FTFA: After a pleasant afternoon at the Seattle Center we'll test the dress codes at some of the finer restaurants on Queen Anne and then top it off with a cocktail and conversation at a long time watering hole, a historic working class dive bar the Mecca Cafe.

Obviously.
 
2013-10-09 12:44:30 AM

Popular Opinion: for $400, you can feed 200+ needy folks a great dinner, and help me cook and serve,
some of the faces you see will break your heart, and might change your attitude about some of our nation's poor and hungry.


we will go to costco and buy 60lbs of ground beef, 30lbs of shredded cheese, 30 jars of pasta sauce, a shopping cart full of pasta, 30 bags of salad, and more french bread than you can shake a stick at. (plus stuff like butter, garlic, foil, napkins and setups, lemonade...)
i'll let you choose dessert for 240 hungry people (but you'll need to stick to the $400 budget, or pay more).

next, at the outreach center, you get to brown 60lbs of ground beef. 10lb batches, because the grill is only 2x2' or so.

you'll help me fill 6 big 75qt pots with water and get them on the stove to boil the pasta.

how good are you at making garlic bread. after 30 loaves, you'll get pretty good.(bring a good serrated bread knife. using the ones at the center would work for 1 loaf, but you want the best knife you can find when you're cutting up 30 loaves of hot garlic bread right out of the oven, no you can't cut them up before baking.

draining 75qt pots full of boiling water and pasta is fun. just keep saying that and try not to pour it on my leg (or yours).

next we get to mix the ground beef, pasta sauce, burning hot pasta, and shredded cheese in 12 of those really big aluminum baking pans (we got at costco). i'm not scrubbing 12 pans and i'm not expecting you to either.
the best way is with you hands (with those plastic serving gloves). it burns, so man up, if you are a girl, you can use a spoon. more cheese on top, cover with foil and in the oven.

i hope you chose something easy for dessert.
 
2013-10-09 12:46:37 AM
Check out youtube for a documentary called streets of plenty.

some jackass student in vancouver decides to try being homless on hastings for a month. realizes at about 3 weeks in that to truly be homless he's gonna have to try some drugs. Shoots some smack, smokes some crack. Heads home about day 26.

Rich liberal guilt in action and caught on tape. I thought it was pretty funny.
 
2013-10-09 01:07:25 AM
hmmff....Indigent Tourism........filed in the This Will Not End Well folder.

He will get one or two takers, one of them will get beat up in the middle of the night and this whole thing will come to a stop.
 
2013-10-09 01:21:05 AM
What your tour guides might look like:

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-10-09 01:25:33 AM
Oddly enough, this combo always wins the hand in Cards Against Humanity.
 
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