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(Al Jazeera)   If you think the media has failed the American public miserably during this whole government shutdown fiasco, you'd be right   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 91
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2013-10-08 05:21:48 PM  
Pete?
 
2013-10-08 05:22:28 PM  
"Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.
 
2013-10-08 05:22:42 PM  
Journalists have been suckered into embracing 'balance' and 'neutrality' at all costs.


What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
 
2013-10-08 05:23:44 PM  
1. Yes, it is the responsibility of one party alone, the GOP; but some journalists feel like they must use neutral wording as they feel that it isn't their responsibility to analyze and only report
2. Those who have blamed one party are probably doing record clicks. People like to have hero's and villains in a story. Its funny to watch the GOP attempt to tell the story that they are the heroes
3. Although the front page of these newspapers might be neutral, that doesn't mean that the editors comment or the rest of the paper is free from neutrality
 
2013-10-08 05:24:27 PM  

Headso: Journalists have been suckered into embracing 'balance' and 'neutrality' at all costs.


What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


If I don't survive, tell my wife hello.
 
2013-10-08 05:24:55 PM  
fc08.deviantart.net
 
2013-10-08 05:26:18 PM  
Repeat. So here's a picture of some taint.

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JRB
2013-10-08 05:26:34 PM  
Case in point: The current headline on CNN softballs Boehner's stance as merely wanting "a conversation," not at all a leveraging of a core Congressional responsibility in an unprecendated display of global brinkmanship.

How disingenuous can you get?
 
JRB
2013-10-08 05:28:25 PM  
"unprecendated" is supposed to be "unprecedented," but I fugabelleeted it somehow.
 
2013-10-08 05:30:49 PM  

Headso: Journalists have been suckered into embracing 'balance' and 'neutrality' at all costs.


What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


I love you
 
2013-10-08 05:31:54 PM  
The whole system is based on ratings and sales.

In that regard, the American public gets exactly what it appears to want.

Which in this case, ironically, is probably also exactly what it deserves.

I think The Onion said it beautifully (as always): Petty, Shortsighted Americans Outraged At Legislature That Represents Them Perfectly

I used to think it wasn't true, but I'm starting to believe we (collectively) really are this stupid and we probably deserve all of this.

/acceptance stage really is the best one
 
2013-10-08 05:34:48 PM  
Repeat.
 
2013-10-08 05:37:22 PM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-10-08 05:39:35 PM  
Look. It's this argument. Again.
 
2013-10-08 05:40:29 PM  
It's too bad nobody proposed the propaganda model in the 1970s. That would have really helped to understand bias in media.
 
2013-10-08 05:40:53 PM  
This news has a lawn and wants you off it.
 
2013-10-08 05:41:03 PM  

oryx: Look. It's this argument. Again.


the shutdown and debt ceiling standoff is 100 percent the fault of republicans, yet the media portrays it as a 50/50 proposition. this is patently and demonstrably false.

so the argument presented (again) is true.
 
2013-10-08 05:41:39 PM  

Headso: What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me
 
2013-10-08 05:43:35 PM  

Headso: Journalists have been suckered into embracing 'balance' and 'neutrality' at all costs.


What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


If I don't survive the government default tell my wife I said hello.
 
2013-10-08 05:46:06 PM  
The media isn't just neutral, it's chaotic neutral, so they can't be druids.
 
2013-10-08 05:47:18 PM  
Kind of sad when a news organization owned by an absolute monarch is better at reporting than all the free media in the USA.
 
2013-10-08 05:54:31 PM  
American media likes to weasel into objectivity by having two sides to every issue, despite the fact that there are issues  that have  only one side and issues that have multiple sides.

If you have a scientist on to explain the Higgs Boson news, you don't need to balance that with Phyllis Schlafly to be objective.
 
2013-10-08 05:57:16 PM  

CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.


"Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue, not just the "team" they already like, and realize that our world is run by a bunch of spiteful, self-serving, money grubbing, closed-minded jerks, all too busy fighting amongst each other and pandering to lobbyists and special interests to give two sh*ts about the rest of us.

/run on sentence runs on
 
2013-10-08 06:03:14 PM  

naturalbornposer: CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.

"Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue, not just the "team" they already like, and realize that our world is run by a bunch of spiteful, self-serving, money grubbing, closed-minded jerks, all too busy fighting amongst each other and pandering to lobbyists and special interests to give two sh*ts about the rest of us.

/run on sentence runs on


So let's be honest. Both sides are bad, but one side resembles Benito Mussolini in 1922 bad. I mean really, really bad. Destroying our democracy bad.

Really, the GOP is at that point. The problem with both sides are bad is that it provides false equivalency, so that the answer is "Somewhere in the middle". No. The Democrats actually have the answer here. They may not be the best, or even "Good", but they are, in this instance, correct. Saying otherwise is disingenuous to say the least.
 
2013-10-08 06:03:46 PM  
""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.
 
2013-10-08 06:04:21 PM  

naturalbornposer: CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.

"Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue, not just the "team" they already like, and realize that our world is run by a bunch of spiteful, self-serving, money grubbing, closed-minded jerks, all too busy fighting amongst each other and pandering to lobbyists and special interests to give two sh*ts about the rest of us.

/run on sentence runs on


Both sides are bad, but one side is much much worse.

People in power are never going to be 100% good, I just say that because they never have been. So it always comes down to the lesser of two evils. And right now there is simply no comparison.
 
2013-10-08 06:07:40 PM  

impaler: ""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.


+1
 
2013-10-08 06:10:07 PM  
Of COURSE they have! How could they NOT? Somewhere along the way, they got tired of being called "the liberal media," so they had to start reporting BOTH sides of the issue: the factual side and the Conservative side!

/and it's been amazing ever since!
 
2013-10-08 06:11:22 PM  
So long as "during this whole fiasco" means "basically since the late 70s"
 
2013-10-08 06:11:46 PM  

cman: Yes, it is the responsibility of one party alone, the GOP; but some journalists feel like they must use neutral wording as they feel that it isn't their responsibility to analyze and only report


It's one thing to reach for neutral wording. It's quite another to actively look for "equivalency" where none exists by searching high and low for something, anything, the other side has done that can be portrayed as vaguely similar.
 
2013-10-08 06:11:51 PM  

EvilEgg: naturalbornposer: CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.

"Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue, not just the "team" they already like, and realize that our world is run by a bunch of spiteful, self-serving, money grubbing, closed-minded jerks, all too busy fighting amongst each other and pandering to lobbyists and special interests to give two sh*ts about the rest of us.

/run on sentence runs on

Both sides are bad, but one side is much much worse.

People in power are never going to be 100% good, I just say that because they never have been. So it always comes down to the lesser of two evils. And right now there is simply no comparison.

www.keyposters.com
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2013-10-08 06:12:27 PM  

impaler: ""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.


I lol'd

Maybe both sides are.... good.

Statemate.
 
2013-10-08 06:15:27 PM  

naturalbornposer: CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.

"Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue, not just the "team" they already like, and realize that our world is run by a bunch of spiteful, self-serving, money grubbing, closed-minded jerks, all too busy fighting amongst each other and pandering to lobbyists and special interests to give two sh*ts about the rest of us.

/run on sentence runs on


No
 
2013-10-08 06:15:45 PM  

naturalbornposer: impaler: ""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.

I lol'd

Maybe both sides are.... good.

Statemate.


True. But then again, one party is much better than the other in this circumstance. So lay off the false equivalency kool-aid already.
 
2013-10-08 06:17:27 PM  
A week late is better than never, I guess.

Oh and (stolen from another Farker):

----------------------------------------

Dara O'Briain on the media's obsession with balance:

So they interview a rocket scientist. "Mr NASA guy, you've built a new space station."

Then they go, "That's very interesting, But for the sake of balance, we must now turn to Barry who believes the sky is a carpet painted by God. Barry, what do you think of this space station plan?"
 
2013-10-08 06:19:00 PM  

naturalbornposer: impaler: ""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.

I lol'd

Maybe both sides are.... good.

Statemate.


Both sides are bad in the same way that both Mussolini's National Bloc and the Italian opposition at the time were bad. One side is milquetoast and not very responsive to the voters; the other is a violent fascist regime.
 
JRB
2013-10-08 06:19:22 PM  
I mean, where's the reality check here? If you read that one faction in, say, Iraq, forced the government into shutdown mode, then we'd ALL be shaking our heads and calling it unproductive and hostile. So how come when it happens here, it's practically considered a "strategy."

Come on, now - these people that got elected to govern are actually ANTI-government, and are only pursue reductive measures, without any effort to actually BUILD ANYTHING. They have no compunction about reaching in indiscriminately, tearing out as much wiring as possible, and waving around fistfulls of ruined apparatus as a point of pride, like they've made a genuine improvement.

Truth-in-Onion moment:  "For a free society to work, hatred, in all its forms, must be encouraged."
 
2013-10-08 06:29:17 PM  

impaler: ""Both sides are bad" is what many informed voters like to say because they've actually read into all sides of an issue," is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about.


Both sides are bad but now equally bad. It's like comparing a shiat sandwich with a Miracle Whip and pimento loaf sandwich. Neither is appetizing but only one is likely to make you sick.
 
2013-10-08 06:32:15 PM  
Whatever my opinion on this matter was the first time this piece was posted it remains today.
 
2013-10-08 06:35:19 PM  
The US Media would gladly welcome Alien Overlords and help them pick out which juicy humans should be harvested first, just to have "access" to the Imperial Queen Egg-Layer.
 
2013-10-08 06:49:58 PM  

EvilEgg: People in power are never going to be 100% good, I just say that because they never have been. So it always comes down to the lesser of two evils. And right now there is simply no comparison.


Exactly. Obama must concede and allow a delay in the mandate.
 
2013-10-08 06:51:21 PM  
You sheep are so easily led to the slaughter house. Bammy's marxist nazi commie terrorist friends in the middle east run a newspaper call Al Jazeera and they will of course write a story about how American media needs to be more unbalanced (to the left). If we start listening to foreigners, the terrorists have already run, now you've gotta take a little time - take a little time to look around you.

/ You've got nowhere left to hide
// Sharia Law is right around the corner
 
2013-10-08 06:55:46 PM  
Polls show Americans oppose Obamacare while at the same time they approve of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act -- strong evidence that the news media does a really lousy job.
Then of course there were the billions spent by Big Pharma, the insurance industry, the GOP and right-wing oligarchs on a disinformation campaign that was never questioned by the "independent media."
Why just last Friday night I turned on my AM radio and learned Obama is giving out free 4G cell phones to everyone who signs up for "Obamacare." And that was on American-licensed, publicly owned airwaves.
 
2013-10-08 07:01:41 PM  
Oh look, it's this exact link again, with a less funny headline.

I mean, it's still true, and people who didn't read it six days ago should read it now, but c'mon.
 
2013-10-08 07:16:24 PM  
Actually one Party does a good job at making America's Federal Government work pretty well most of the time, and is open to improving on their already momentus attempts at addressing some of America's biggest and most persistent problems..

The other is solumnly and publically committed to being a drag on the efficient functioning of the Government in order to make it look ineffective, so they can validate their destructivist argument ...while getting as much slop from the Public trough as any other suceessful pol on both sides, not to mention getting as much fed assistance  for family and friends and constituents as they can get away with.
 
2013-10-08 07:29:49 PM  
I can't be sure if CNN's analysis sucks. Let's ask Twitter!
 
2013-10-08 07:32:37 PM  

JAYoung: Polls show Americans oppose Obamacare while at the same time they approve of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act -- strong evidence that the news media does a really lousy job.
Then of course there were the billions spent by Big Pharma, the insurance industry, the GOP and right-wing oligarchs on a disinformation campaign that was never questioned by the "independent media."
Why just last Friday night I turned on my AM radio and learned Obama is giving out free 4G cell phones to everyone who signs up for "Obamacare." And that was on American-licensed, publicly owned airwaves.


Usually I don't watch Jimmy Kimmel but he hit the nail on the head with this segment:

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=sx2scvIFGjE
 
2013-10-08 07:48:20 PM  

CPennypacker: "Both sides are bad" is what uninformed voters like to say because they think it makes them look like they know what they are talking about. Most people are uninformed voters, and they are pandering to that stupidity.


Both sides ARE bad. To put the blame solely on one side or the other just proves the person is a brainwashed partisan. But please, continue to dazzle me with your intellect.
 
2013-10-08 07:48:39 PM  
Yeah,this is the second time one of these stories has been greened on Fark, and it's the second time I feel the need to point out that we all know exactly who's to blame here, we've been batching about it for a week now. As cool as I think my fellow farkers are, I don't believe that we are spectacularly more well-informed than the rest if the country. Everyone knows what's up, and stories like this are just another cheap tactic to get page hits.

Nothing new to write about? Let's pretend like everyone is too stupid to know what the gov't shutdown is all about, and then blame it on the rest of the media in the process...

Really, the media hasn't "failed" us, we already knew all of this.
 
2013-10-08 07:50:28 PM  

FlashHarry: oryx: Look. It's this argument. Again.

the shutdown and debt ceiling standoff is 100 percent the fault of republicans, yet the media portrays it as a 50/50 proposition. this is patently and demonstrably false.

so the argument presented (again) is true.


Wrong. The Dems could have allowed the defunding of Obamacare to keep the government from shutting down. Of course it's an option they'd never explore but it was an option none the less. Dems are just as pig-headed as the Republicans.
 
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