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(Sports Illustrated)   Tampa bay held on for one more day, but can they do it again against Boston? Can Oakland close out their series, or will Detroit force a deciding game? It's your Tuesday Divisional Series thread, first game at 5 PM ET   (mlb.si.com) divider line 356
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2013-10-08 07:17:25 PM  
Oooooh, that dude leaned over.
 
2013-10-08 07:17:32 PM  
GAH, stupid fark fans - stop reaching over the fence!
 
2013-10-08 07:17:40 PM  
This can possibly Steve Bartman II.
 
2013-10-08 07:18:24 PM  
Each homerun just out of reach...They over turn this Detroit will riot.
 
2013-10-08 07:18:31 PM  
Oh man is this a tough call. Every homer today has been close, but this one is the closest.

Controversy!!!
 
2013-10-08 07:18:36 PM  
There is no way they overturn that
 
2013-10-08 07:18:50 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: This can possibly Steve Bartman

Jeffery Maier II.
 
2013-10-08 07:19:09 PM  
how can you call that a HR?
 
2013-10-08 07:19:09 PM  
shiat
 
2013-10-08 07:19:18 PM  
Home run on review.
 
2013-10-08 07:19:24 PM  
Ended up staying a HR.  WOO!
 
2013-10-08 07:19:50 PM  
That side angle makes the homer call pretty sketchy...
 
2013-10-08 07:20:12 PM  
I don't agree with that at all. He has a play if no interference.
 
2013-10-08 07:20:30 PM  
Double for Peralta, lol, here we go.
 
2013-10-08 07:21:05 PM  
I believe that was a poor call by the umps.  Maybe they discussed fearing for their lives if they didn't call it a HR.
 
2013-10-08 07:21:16 PM  
I think the only problem with it was what would have happened if the fan didn't interfere. That looks difficult to judge. I'm not familiar enough with baseball's replay system to know.
 
2013-10-08 07:21:32 PM  
This not going as I hoped.
 
2013-10-08 07:21:48 PM  

idesofmarch: GAH, stupid fark fans - stop reaching over the fence!


Oh! really?! What's his handle?

No seriously, in a sport like baseball, that loves their heritage, where things like this have happened since 1900, I think fan interference in a case like this should be allowed. As the rules are set now, the umpires seemed to me to have gotten the call wrong, but I don't care.

If a fan obstructs a player... thats one thing. If a fan becomes part of the game by being in a position more rare than winning the lottery, and changes the course of the game... I think that's really cool. One man's opinion.
 
2013-10-08 07:22:42 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: I believe that was a poor call by the umps.  Maybe they discussed fearing for their lives if they didn't call it a HR.


It has to be blatant. They need to more the fans back a row.
 
2013-10-08 07:23:37 PM  
K, first out for the A's.
 
2013-10-08 07:24:21 PM  
Let's bunting

/make people who don't sacrifice go for the sacrifice. No problems with it.
 
2013-10-08 07:25:39 PM  

tenton: I think the only problem with it was what would have happened if the fan didn't interfere. That looks difficult to judge. I'm not familiar enough with baseball's replay system to know.


I think it would of been a double, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
 
2013-10-08 07:27:20 PM  
Runners on first and second, 2 outs.  Jackson up.
 
2013-10-08 07:28:05 PM  

Scruffinator: tenton: I think the only problem with it was what would have happened if the fan didn't interfere. That looks difficult to judge. I'm not familiar enough with baseball's replay system to know.

I think it would of been a double, but I'm not 100% sure on that.


I think it either would have been a catch, a HR off the railing, or it might have glanced off the glove into the railing for a HR.
 
2013-10-08 07:29:13 PM  
Jackson does something other than strike out!  Perfect timing!
 
2013-10-08 07:29:13 PM  
you had one job, Doolittle..
 
2013-10-08 07:29:21 PM  
5-4 Detroit.
 
2013-10-08 07:29:24 PM  
Weeeeeeelll sheeeeiiit
 
2013-10-08 07:29:32 PM  
goddamnitalltohell
 
2013-10-08 07:30:25 PM  
Doolittle is almost as bad of a pitcher name as Balfour.
 
2013-10-08 07:30:30 PM  
This has been an entertaining series so far.
 
2013-10-08 07:30:59 PM  

floor: JohnnyRebel88: I believe that was a poor call by the umps.  Maybe they discussed fearing for their lives if they didn't call it a HR.

It has to be blatant. They need to more the fans back a row.


I would think that anything above the yellow line would be considered an HR, however he could jump above the fence and have a play on the ball. So I could argue either way I guess...

Typically the best solution is most simplistic.  You are right and I couldn't agree more, move the fans a row away from the field of play, but since they pay a premium for these seats, that will never happen.

Look what happened since that play, now they will have something to discuss tomorrow for an hour on every ESPN show.
 
2013-10-08 07:31:00 PM  

wxboy: Scruffinator: tenton: I think the only problem with it was what would have happened if the fan didn't interfere. That looks difficult to judge. I'm not familiar enough with baseball's replay system to know.

I think it would of been a double, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

I think it either would have been a catch, a HR off the railing, or it might have glanced off the glove into the railing for a HR.


Agreed, HR or incredible catch.  The fan touched it pretty high above the yellow line.
 
2013-10-08 07:31:24 PM  

yookaloco: idesofmarch: GAH, stupid fark fans - stop reaching over the fence!

Oh! really?! What's his handle?

No seriously, in a sport like baseball, that loves their heritage, where things like this have happened since 1900, I think fan interference in a case like this should be allowed. As the rules are set now, the umpires seemed to me to have gotten the call wrong, but I don't care.

If a fan obstructs a player... thats one thing. If a fan becomes part of the game by being in a position more rare than winning the lottery, and changes the course of the game... I think that's really cool. One man's opinion.


Well I think they should just take it out of the hands of chance and make sure the seats and wall have enough space between them so you can't reach out - so if they don't do that, they've got nobody to blame but themselves.
 
2013-10-08 07:32:07 PM  
Must resist smashing A, R and G keys.. AAAARRRRGGGG
 
2013-10-08 07:36:32 PM  
I've seen this happen to much. The A's get a lead in the series and can't close it out. This mat be the begining f the end of the season.
 
2013-10-08 07:36:47 PM  
Only down 1 run with the Tigers bullpen.

Leyland planning on using Benoit for 2 innings? More Scherzer? I don't Leyland has many choices here.
 
2013-10-08 07:37:51 PM  
Here's the thing.. the fan reached into the field of play and touched the ball. That's clear interference to me as I understand the rules. I could be misunderstanding since the umpires ruled differently and are paid to know the rules, I dunno.

This is different if the fan did not reach over and the ball was already over the wall, even if the fielder has a play. Once it's over the wall its fair game for the fans.
 
2013-10-08 07:38:45 PM  

tenton: Only down 1 run with the Tigers bullpen.

Leyland planning on using Benoit for 2 innings? More Scherzer? I don't Leyland has many choices here.


BY GAWD, THAT'S VALVERDE'S MUSIC!!
 
2013-10-08 07:40:25 PM  
smooth fielding Torii
 
2013-10-08 07:41:02 PM  
They keep mentioning that Scherzer hasn't come out of the pen since 2011.  So what, it's not like this is the first time he pitched in a late inning close game.

Here we go...

The A's deserve a run back for that interference IMO.
 
2013-10-08 07:41:21 PM  
OK, Oakland is set up - do it, guys!
 
2013-10-08 07:42:29 PM  
HELP!!!!!  I lost my stream on VIP!!!!  Hook a brother up??????
 
2013-10-08 07:43:30 PM  

The Bestest: Here's the thing.. the fan reached into the field of play and touched the ball. That's clear interference to me as I understand the rules. I could be misunderstanding since the umpires ruled differently and are paid to know the rules, I dunno.

This is different if the fan did not reach over and the ball was already over the wall, even if the fielder has a play. Once it's over the wall its fair game for the fans.


Here's what Wikipedia says:

Such interference often occurs when a spectator in the first row of seats reaches onto the field to attempt to grab a fair or foul fly ball. If the umpire judges that the fielder could have caught the ball over the field (i.e., the ball would have not crossed over the plane of the wall), he will rule the batter out on spectator interference.

Emphasis mine.  Since the ball would of crossed over the plane of the wall, interference was not called.
I think that's what happened, anyways.
 
2013-10-08 07:43:37 PM  

The Bestest: Here's the thing.. the fan reached into the field of play and touched the ball. That's clear interference to me as I understand the rules. I could be misunderstanding since the umpires ruled differently and are paid to know the rules, I dunno.

This is different if the fan did not reach over and the ball was already over the wall, even if the fielder has a play. Once it's over the wall its fair game for the fans.


The only argument is that the trajectory of the ball still looked like it was going to be HR. While the fan is reaching over the railing (clearly), the ball still looks like it's on track to fall over the yellow line. Was going to require Reddick to make a great catch, which he looked like he was primed to do, but it's possible the umps ruled that the trajectory of the ball was still going to take the ball out of play so it's not reversible. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the replay rules wrt fan interference.
 
2013-10-08 07:45:51 PM  
Dammit, it Reddick, you swung at ball four.
 
2013-10-08 07:45:55 PM  
you just swung at a ball at your ankles, son
 
2013-10-08 07:46:00 PM  
Oh what a strikeout for Scherzer!
 
2013-10-08 07:46:10 PM  
That was a ballsy pitch
 
2013-10-08 07:48:51 PM  
They're killin me...
 
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