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(KMBZ Kansas City)   The guy who once snuck away from his job as governor for a taxpayer-funded booty call to Argentina is demanding his congressional staffers come back to work lest they inadvertently get a tax-payer vacation during the furlough   (kmbz.com) divider line 62
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2013-10-08 03:11:33 PM  
In other news, worthless assholes don't usually change
 
2013-10-08 03:18:00 PM  
I think these guys had pretty good warning about the sort of person they were signing up to work for.
 
2013-10-08 03:18:47 PM  
"I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.
 
2013-10-08 03:21:58 PM  
Everyone should work on the theoretical promise of being paid for their work.  I mean if your boss says you're probably going to be paid, they'd never stiff you.
 
2013-10-08 03:22:41 PM  
Do these staffs actually have any choice who they work for? As in do they just hire to be a congressional staffer and they say "You go there and you go there", or do they interview and are hired by specific congresspeople?
 
2013-10-08 03:23:57 PM  
To be fair, he knows a taxpayer-funded vacation when he sees one. He's been on one for almost 19 years.
 
2013-10-08 03:25:37 PM  

saintstryfe: Do these staffs actually have any choice who they work for? As in do they just hire to be a congressional staffer and they say "You go there and you go there", or do they interview and are hired by specific congresspeople?


Congresspeople like to build their own little echo-chambers in their personal offices, so the latter.  More frequently it's specifically being a member of "the party" in the congressperson's district that nabs you those "staffer" jobs.
 
2013-10-08 03:26:11 PM  

Headso: "I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.


Wasn't there a thread on Fark today saying the bill to get them back pay would be denied?  If they aren't supposed to be working then they shouldn't expect pay.  I know I am not allowed to come to work during off hours and expect pay.  My boss can't even call me in unless she has approval.
 
2013-10-08 03:27:23 PM  

ikanreed: More frequently it's specifically being a member of "the party" in the congressperson's district that nabs you those "staffer" jobs.


Having a daddy who make generous donations can sometimes help.
 
2013-10-08 03:29:00 PM  

saintstryfe: Do these staffs actually have any choice who they work for? As in do they just hire to be a congressional staffer and they say "You go there and you go there", or do they interview and are hired by specific congresspeople?


They use whatever family or personal connections they have to get into the best staffer jobs available to someone with their level of political pull. The application process for being a staffer for a Governor, Rep or Senator is very competitive.
 
2013-10-08 03:30:08 PM  

Muta: Headso: "I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.

Wasn't there a thread on Fark today saying the bill to get them back pay would be denied?  If they aren't supposed to be working then they shouldn't expect pay.  I know I am not allowed to come to work during off hours and expect pay.  My boss can't even call me in unless she has approval.


Yeah, I guess it's quite possible that this known and proven liar is just lying again when he says that they will get paid. I would be curious though as like you said are these people "allowed" to go to work and what is it like when you tell this guy when he calls you to come in ohh sorry I am not allowed to.
 
2013-10-08 03:30:55 PM  
I think Congress should pass a bill that will put all furloughed employees back to work with pay during the government shutdown.

/don't laugh, they might fall for it
 
2013-10-08 03:31:04 PM  

Target Builder: saintstryfe: Do these staffs actually have any choice who they work for? As in do they just hire to be a congressional staffer and they say "You go there and you go there", or do they interview and are hired by specific congresspeople?

They use whatever family or personal connections they have to get into the best staffer jobs available to someone with their level of political pull. The application process for being a staffer for a Governor, Rep or Senator is very competitive.

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2013-10-08 03:31:13 PM  

Headso: "I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.


How is that not what subby said? Seems exactly the same to me. And besides we don't know if they will get paid, it's being blocked by Republicans right now.
 
2013-10-08 03:32:17 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-10-08 03:33:43 PM  

Target Builder: I think these guys had pretty good warning about the sort of person they were signing up to work for.


Everyone knows what an obstinate sh*thead Representative Sanford is.  He was nothing but a PITA to the SC GOP while in office, much less voters and the weak, weak, weak opposition.  He wasted our money on his junket, and yet was the "clear choice" for someone that would look out for our taxpayer dollars in Washington.

Right.
 
2013-10-08 03:37:14 PM  

Muta: Headso: "I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.

Wasn't there a thread on Fark today saying the bill to get them back pay would be denied?  If they aren't supposed to be working then they shouldn't expect pay.  I know I am not allowed to come to work during off hours and expect pay.  My boss can't even call me in unless she has approval.


But they should be able to be forced to work without pay? Like they are now, and he is asking them to do?
 
2013-10-08 03:37:17 PM  
The fact that the idiots that live in South Carolina elected this clown even after knowing what a huge scumbag he is makes me start thinking eugenics might not be such a bad idea.

Born in the south?  I think we just put you in a lottery, Star Trek style.

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2013-10-08 03:40:12 PM  
Sanford said that the bill's passage, which is pending a Senate vote, and Obama's signature, means that there's no longer any justification for staff members to continue to stay home. More than half of Sanford's office is currently furloughed.

Well, except for that whole "Not yet official" thing. Seriously though, does anyone need a job THAT BAD to continue working for an asshole like this?
 
2013-10-08 03:40:13 PM  

Headso: I would be curious though as like you said are these people "allowed" to go to work and what is it like when you tell this guy when he calls you to come in ohh sorry I am not allowed to.


I was thinking the same thing until I RTFA. Sanford says he wants to end his staff's furloughs. If they are no longer furloughed, they are allowed to work. My boss said that getting a justified exception to bring someone in if necessary wouldn't be hard for her, so I can't imagine it would be all that difficult for a congressman.
 
2013-10-08 03:43:25 PM  
Addendum to my last post: Of course, any worker who comes in will get paid as per the law, so, if he can end furloughs at will, he can already bring his staff back in and have them get paid when the shutdown ends. His concern seems to be that they might get paid whether or not he calls them back. Probably because he's a dick.
 
2013-10-08 03:43:50 PM  
Has he ever worked a day or earned a dollar off the taxpayer tit?
 
2013-10-08 03:45:18 PM  
The Congressman needs to take a very good look at 31 USC 1342 :
An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government may not accept voluntary services for either government or employ personal services exceeding that authorized by law except for emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. This section does not apply to a corporation getting amounts to make loans (except paid incapital amounts) without legal liability of the United States Government. As used in this section, the term "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property" does not include ongoing, regular functions of government the suspension of which would not imminently threaten the safety of human life or the protection of property.

 and even if the staffers get back pay later they are not being paid RIGHT NOW, which legally makes their services "voluntary" (which is why it si also illegal for government workers or contractors to work unpaid overtime)    TThose "essential" government employes forced to work right now are also being given credit hours for a vacation later PLUS any back pay they may have earned, I doubt his staffers are, whcih technically makes Sanfords demand a felony, as it would be for any staffer who complied with it.
 
2013-10-08 03:45:29 PM  

Mikey1969: Sanford said that the bill's passage, which is pending a Senate vote, and Obama's signature, means that there's no longer any justification for staff members to continue to stay home. More than half of Sanford's office is currently furloughed.

Well, except for that whole "Not yet official" thing. Seriously though, does anyone need a job THAT BAD to continue working for an asshole like this?


Do you have any idea how much staffers get paid when they become lobbyists?
 
2013-10-08 03:45:48 PM  

madgonad: I think Congress should pass a bill that will put all furloughed employees back to work with pay during the government shutdown.

/don't laugh, they might fall for it


lol. Yeah they might.
 
2013-10-08 03:47:49 PM  
FTFA: And keeping a congressional office open with a skeletal staff has produced some interesting results, including lawmakers taking to answering their own phones.

My god! The horror!
 
2013-10-08 03:48:55 PM  
They should all just take a hike.
 
2013-10-08 03:49:02 PM  

ikanreed: Everyone should work on the theoretical promise of being paid for their work.  I mean if your boss says you're probably going to be paid, they'd never stiff you.


....and you should be thankful for it, boy. Lotta people don't even have a job in this economy.
 
2013-10-08 03:51:37 PM  
Does this congressman actually have any power to force his furloughed staff to work? Can't they just say, "Fark you, pay me."
 
2013-10-08 03:52:05 PM  
no sympathy for the stupids.

They made their choice on who to work or vote for, and now get to deal with those consequences.

plus, I'm pretty sure these are low-level staffers with connections.

There is always someone else to blow if they need another job
 
2013-10-08 03:54:23 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Has he ever worked a day or earned a dollar off the taxpayer tit?


Well he DID come into a pile of money through hard work, gumption and wisely marrying Jenny Sulliivan, but then he lost that fortune by making several ill-advised deposits in an Argentinian concern...
 
2013-10-08 03:54:46 PM  

JesusJuice: Does this congressman actually have any power to force his furloughed staff to work? Can't they just say, "Fark you, pay me."


Do you think anybody working for him is that smart? After all, it is the GOP.....
 
2013-10-08 03:55:04 PM  
Odds are his staffers are the ones who came up with this idea. If you've ever met a few of these types, you'd think so too!
 
2013-10-08 03:55:25 PM  

ikanreed: Everyone should work on the theoretical promise of being paid for their work.  I mean if your boss says you're probably going to be paid, they'd never stiff you.


Or then have them use it for leverage so you don't get paid unless they get something first -- But we know Republicans would never do something like that right?
 
2013-10-08 03:57:19 PM  
That douche got re-elected?
 
2013-10-08 03:57:29 PM  
"I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.

It's not clear yet Marky.  Your pals in the Senate are holding up the bill you're bragging about.
 
2013-10-08 03:59:16 PM  
Could be worse, doing some work for a defense contractor right now. Apparently the military/government people we work with got one of two letters last Tuesday. Go home, you aren't gettign paid. Or you have to stay, but you still aren't getting paid.
 
2013-10-08 03:59:36 PM  
"I got mine, fark you."
 
2013-10-08 04:00:28 PM  

Headso: So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker!


Actually, it's exactly like subby portrayed.  Sanford's the one in the wrong here.  He thinks that because the House and the President agree something should be done, then it's automatically a law.

He forgot the part of Congressman Orientation where they explained the function of the Senate.
 
2013-10-08 04:01:14 PM  
Does this violate the Antideficiency Act?
 
2013-10-08 04:01:28 PM  
 
2013-10-08 04:02:13 PM  

super_grass: That douche got re-elected?


Well, sorta.  He was in the USHOR before he was governor, and then took a break from politics after finishing his 2nd gubernatorial term.  He got divorced, got engaged, and then when Sen. DeMint left office, Rep Tim Scott was promoted and an interim election was called.

He beat out 15 total f*cking cardboard cut-outs in the GOP primary and then somehow was elevated into the status of "great protector" by a spectacularly effective and efficient astro-turfing campaign.

Will he survive 2014?  I've no idea.
 
2013-10-08 04:02:54 PM  

Headso: "I think common sense would dictate that now that it's clear everyone will be paid, that they should work -- anything less would amount to an extended taxpayer subsidized vacation," Sanford added.


So really not what subby portrayed in the headline, shocker! That said, they are not getting paid right now, not sure what they get paid but plenty of people who live paycheck to paycheck need last weeks pay to go to work this week. Probably not congressional staffers but then again it really wouldn't surprise me if these people earned jack shiat all on the promise of getting something better in the future.


Here's a list of congressional staff positions and their average pay:
http://www.theopenhouseproject.com/2009/12/02/whats-the-average-sala ry -of-house-staff/

When you look at this list, remember that DC has one of the highest standards of living in the country.
 
2013-10-08 04:03:05 PM  

Elegy: FTFA: And keeping a congressional office open with a skeletal staff has produced some interesting results, including lawmakers taking to answering their own phones.

My god! The horror!


I'm sure the staffers ARE horrified.  I for one would not want to clean up that mess.
 
2013-10-08 04:04:13 PM  

thurstonxhowell: To be fair, he knows a taxpayer-funded vacation when he sees one. He's been on one for almost 19 years.


He's been living on government cheese for 19 years, he's sure as h3ll ain't going to do his own office work.

Get his own coffee? Never.
 
2013-10-08 04:08:13 PM  

Pharque-it: JesusJuice: Does this congressman actually have any power to force his furloughed staff to work? Can't they just say, "Fark you, pay me."

Do you think anybody working for him is that smart? After all, it is the GOP.....


Yes, I imagine they're fairly intelligent. Stupid people usually don't get those jobs.
 
2013-10-08 04:09:42 PM  

factoryconnection: super_grass: That douche got re-elected?

Well, sorta.  He was in the USHOR before he was governor, and then took a break from politics after finishing his 2nd gubernatorial term.  He got divorced, got engaged, and then when Sen. DeMint left office, Rep Tim Scott was promoted and an interim election was called.

He beat out 15 total f*cking cardboard cut-outs in the GOP primary and then somehow was elevated into the status of "great protector" by a spectacularly effective and efficient astro-turfing campaign.

Will he survive 2014?  I've no idea.


He's not kidding about the f*cking cardboard cut-outs.  At one point, he was going house-to-house debating a picture of his opponent on cardboard being help up by some poor schmuck of a staffer.

How someone that slimy, lying, and dumb got re-elected I'll never kn... oh yeah, South Carolina.
 
2013-10-08 04:35:53 PM  
headline was provacative, artcle made it make sense. besides magorn's interesting points, I wonder how he can make the statement based purely on the expectation that the bill will pass. my reaction would be "call me when it passes, meanwhile nothing's changed."
 
2013-10-08 04:41:23 PM  

Karac: How someone that slimy, lying, and dumb got re-elected I'll never kn... oh yeah, South Carolina.


Oh, not "best" Carolina.....
 
2013-10-08 05:05:32 PM  

Karac: factoryconnection: super_grass: That douche got re-elected?

Well, sorta.  He was in the USHOR before he was governor, and then took a break from politics after finishing his 2nd gubernatorial term.  He got divorced, got engaged, and then when Sen. DeMint left office, Rep Tim Scott was promoted and an interim election was called.

He beat out 15 total f*cking cardboard cut-outs in the GOP primary and then somehow was elevated into the status of "great protector" by a spectacularly effective and efficient astro-turfing campaign.

Will he survive 2014?  I've no idea.

He's not kidding about the f*cking cardboard cut-outs.  At one point, he was going house-to-house debating a picture of his opponent on cardboard being help up by some poor schmuck of a staffer.

How someone that slimy, lying, and dumb got re-elected I'll never kn... oh yeah, South Carolina.


He did have a cutout of Colbert-Bush, it was a cutout of Nancy Pelosi.
 
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