They're lucky he was the only person hit. Usually when the police start shooting they hose down the entire block with lead.
jake_lex: The increasing willingness of police to see every situation as requiring a SWAT response is a really terrifying development that I don't think gets nearly enough attention.
generallyso: Deathfrogg: We had a cop in my town that just flat out executed a man in the street in broad daylight, shooting him in the back and all that happened was he was allowed to quit rather than face an inquiry. It was cold-blooded murder, and the Cop was never even charged. It was only a "chronic public inebriate" after all. That Cop incidentally, was allowed to apply for disability and now gets about $30,000 per year (plus COL increases) for the rest of his life, courtesy of the taxpayers.Could you dig up an article about that?
RickN99: Atypical Person Reading Fark: I find the story believable as written.You do? Cops open the door, walk into the room, nobody says anything. The cops whip out guns, silently pick one of the room's occupants -- the cops must have agreed in advance to commit murder (unless they're psychic cops) -- and kill them for no reason at all. That is what the mother says happens -- that sounds believable?
exick: I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.
hardinparamedic: lucksi: Serious question: Why did the police come when you called an ambulance?If I call for an ambulance in my country, then only an ambulance comes unless I also call for the police for example if there was a traffic accident.It's more common in urban areas than it is rural areas, but typically they'll respond when the dispatcher feels there might be a threat to the crew, or someone being combative.Certain cities send police automatically on certain types of calls because their crews have been assaulted many times.
khyberkitsune: Anyone on the cops side needs to get diabetes.If you're having diabetic issues, you're not standing, let alone wielding anything. You might be on your hands and knees clutching at the ground in extreme pain, but very likely, you're on the ground, crying like a little biatch and clutching yourself./had a diabetic boyfriend//6'4" and played football. This brought him to his knees every time.
Bill_Wick's_Friend: Ed's Wood: So you'd be cool w/ every facet of your job being recorded & at any moment's notice, you can be reviewed by a panel of people who aren't trained in your profession, have no idea what it's like to be in your profession & their sole purpose is to use calm, 20/20 hindsight in the safety of a tv monitor to judge how you reacted in the heat of an intense moment where you potentially feared for your own life as well as that of your team's?The guy I do most of my consulting for can do all of that by checking IT records, listening to my calls if he wants, checking my work logs etc. If he wants to stand over my desk (or hire someone to stand over my desk) and watch me work then that's his choice to do so, since he pays the bills.If you work for the public? Yeah, cops shouldn't have a problem with the public looking over their shoulder to make sure they're not corrupt, violent, abusive, failing the public trust etc. Given that so very many cops DO seem to be violent, abusive and happy to violate the public's trust (and that for every bad cop there must be at least five to ten other cops who know their co-worker is bad but who say nothing due to the blue wall of silence) it doesn't seem at all unreasonable to want some close scrutiny on their actions./this post may be recorded for quality assurance
gretzkyscores: Cannot be repeated enough: Never, EVER call the cops, or even talk to them. For ANYTHING. EVER.The halcyon days of Officer Friendly caring about John Q Public and remembering his oath to "protect and defend" are looooong gone. The police have almost entirely succumbed to the militaristic "enemy combatant" mindset and you are now a domestic enemy to be restrained and subdued at all costs, including your life, for any minor transgression or failure to be docile fast enough.The fact that the few remaining good ones cover and excuse the bad ones is just insult on top of injury.
ArcadianRefugee: Isn't this one of those situations where the cops should, you know, use their tasers? Seems like the kind of situation the damned things were designed for.
oldfarthenry: Is this the GOP's alternative to Obamacare?
offmymeds: Oooooohhhhhh...black man. Scaaaarrrryyy!
dark brew: HotWingConspiracy: Why do cops need to respond at all to a medical call?SuperNinjaToad: When you call 911 COPS show up period.. even if you call requesting the fire department and SPECIFICALLY says it's for the kitten stuck up in the tree.I've worked in three different 911 systems as a paramedic and the police only get dispatched if the nature of the call is or has the potential to be violent (shooting, stabbing, assault, etc), if the patient with a medical condition is reported to be combative or there is yelling heard in the background, on an overdose, for auto accidents, and if we request them for some other reason. On the majority of the medical calls, the police do not get dispatched.For this particular incident, the dispatcher may have heard yelling, the caller may have indicated the pt was combative, or it may have been dispatched as an overdose where police automatically get dispatched. I certainly don't believe that the police showed up and shot the guy for no reason. Whether they could have used other means to subdue him is certainly in question though.
InitialCommentGuy: Sin_City_Superhero: InitialCommentGuy: What exactly is the issue here?If I get in trouble, I don't get to have my buddies do the investigation.A board of civilians and LEOs to take in information brought in by state investigators. Again, how exactly are these guys somehow friends with the Waycross constabulary?
InitialCommentGuy: What exactly is the issue here?
HotWingConspiracy: Why do cops need to respond at all to a medical call?
SuperNinjaToad: When you call 911 COPS show up period.. even if you call requesting the fire department and SPECIFICALLY says it's for the kitten stuck up in the tree.
HotWingConspiracy: Why do cops need to respond at all to a medical call?Don't believe the hype, being a cop is one of the easiest jobs on the planet. They generally have nothing to do. Boredom would actually explain a lot of their actions.
generallyso: They're lucky he was the only person hit. Usually when the police start shooting they hose down the entire block with lead.[i.imgur.com image 500x282]After the incident, police ordered residents to stay indoors, but from his window Goo could see dozens of yellow markers on the ground used to mark the stray bullets. While out surveying the damage, he counted five bullets in his entryway, a bullet hole in his garage door, two bullets hits his silver Lexus and another bullet grazed the hood of his Oldsmobile."We are lucky because our cars are drivable, unlike our neighbors'," he said. ..."That's why we live here because it is safe," said the cardiologist technician. "It's ironic that the only violence we experienced here is from LAPD."From a distance of less than 10 feet , the officers, Craig Matthews and Robert Sinishtaj, answered in unison; one shot nine times and the other seven....But the officers also struck some, if not all, of the nine bystanders who were wounded.[i.imgur.com image 850x473]
Beerguy: exick: I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.Exactly.As usual, the truth is somewhere in between the Family's story and the Cops story.
jjorsett: Another example of why cops should be required to wear video recording devices. Both to protect themselves against false accusations and to expose the ones that abuse their powers.
gretzkyscores: The halcyon days of Officer Friendly
Your Black Muslim Credit Union: Well clearly he shouldn't have been a large black man. Hasn't there been other cases of people with the beetus getting shot/tazed because they were acting strange.
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