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(Reason Magazine)   Bad: You take too much diabetes medication and require medical attention. Good: Your fiancé is there to help and calls 911. Fark: The police show up at your door and shoot you dead   (reason.com) divider line 169
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2013-10-08 01:05:43 PM  
Pigs
 
2013-10-08 01:13:18 PM  
Diabetic while black.  He should have known better.
 
2013-10-08 01:13:25 PM  
She called the wrong number.  She wanted 1-800-AMBULANCE, but called 1-800-AMBUSHME instead.
 
2013-10-08 01:16:26 PM  
Is this the GOP's alternative to Obamacare?
 
2013-10-08 01:17:20 PM  
The increasing willingness of police to see every situation as requiring a SWAT response is a really terrifying development that I don't think gets nearly enough attention.
 
2013-10-08 01:21:52 PM  
that not what she meant when she said he needed a shot.
 
2013-10-08 01:22:47 PM  
I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.
 
2013-10-08 01:38:11 PM  
"He didn't have nothing in his hands at any time or period at all before they came, any time while they were here, anything. They just came in and shot him. He didn't say nothing, the police didn't say nothing, anything..."

I find this verrrrry dubious.
 
2013-10-08 01:41:32 PM  

exick: I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.


Exactly.

As usual, the truth is somewhere in between the Family's story and the Cops story.
 
2013-10-08 01:42:01 PM  
Quaker muhfuggin' oats.

www.imfdb.org
 
2013-10-08 01:42:09 PM  

exick: I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.


I am sure this is all factually accurate and the complete chain of events with nothing left out or embellished to sell a particular ideological narrative.
 
2013-10-08 01:42:41 PM  
Why did they shoot him? Was he barking?
 
2013-10-08 01:44:29 PM  
Well clearly he shouldn't have been a large black man. Hasn't there been other cases of people with the beetus getting shot/tazed because they were acting strange.
 
2013-10-08 01:44:36 PM  
Another example of why cops should be required to wear video recording devices. Both to protect themselves against false accusations and to expose the ones that abuse their powers.
 
2013-10-08 01:44:59 PM  
Somebody, perhaps everybody, is not telling the whole truth here.
 
2013-10-08 01:45:07 PM  
An overdose of insulin can make people behave very illogically, but combative? Anyone in the throes of a sugar crash that bad is going to be barely capable of standing.

My money is on the cops just being trigger happy; we are talking about a poor black family in Georgia here.
 
2013-10-08 01:46:24 PM  

jjorsett: Another example of why cops should be required to wear video recording devices. Both to protect themselves against false accusations and to expose the ones that abuse their powers.


Plus all the upskirt shots they'll record.
 
2013-10-08 01:46:29 PM  

Your Black Muslim Credit Union: Well clearly he shouldn't have been a large black man. Hasn't there been other cases of people with the beetus getting shot/tazed because they were acting strange.


I know there have been cases where people were tazed because they "didn't follow orders". Of course, they were in a diabetic coma at the time, but it was true they didn't follow orders.
 
2013-10-08 01:47:21 PM  
I find the story believable as written.  Have seen similar things (not ending in death) with my own eyes, having lived next to a big hospital.  People shot or beaten in the parking lot while seeking medical care.

Very medieval, really.
 
2013-10-08 01:47:27 PM  
 
2013-10-08 01:47:54 PM  
Seems like the truth is somewhere between the two stories being proffered.  Even so, couldn't the police subdue him with non-lethal force were he actually brandishing a knife?  I'm sure there's some kind of protocol.  Maybe protocol dictated lethal force though.
 
2013-10-08 01:47:55 PM  
I'll try to withhold judgement...

They could have tazed him right?! I mean we do arm our finest with LESS then lethal weapons so people do not have to die needlessly.

/cops are always scared for their lives
//maybe cause they know the bullshiat they get away with is going to catch up to them one day
 
2013-10-08 01:48:08 PM  
If cops don't start facing very, very serious consequences for these things, not only will they not stop, they will get worse.

When the police take a life, we need to start bringing them trial the same as we would with a civilian under the same circumstances. Let a jury decide if it was justified, not an internal review board. If the jury says it wasn't justified, let the cop go to prison.

Clearly, they can no longer be trusted to exercise good judgment on their own.
 
2013-10-08 01:48:56 PM  

Dragonflew: Why did they shoot him? Was he barking?


Good call
 
2013-10-08 01:49:18 PM  

Cyclometh: An overdose of insulin can make people behave very illogically, but combative? Anyone in the throes of a sugar crash that bad is going to be barely capable of standing.

My money is on the cops just being trigger happy; we are talking about a poor black family in Georgia here.


For what it's worth, if can tell if I've taken too much insulin because I start getting angry for no apparent reason (or just overreact to things).  However, I have another friend who just starts acting loopy.
 
2013-10-08 01:49:19 PM  

HangMan: Quaker muhfuggin' oats.

[www.imfdb.org image 400x225]


Ahhhh, Hard Target, took me a bit.

And I dated a girl whose sister had the beetus, she had a insulin reaction one day and dislocated both her arms.  I can see the large black guy flipping out and scaring the poor armed police into shooting him.  Dumb cops.
 
2013-10-08 01:49:36 PM  
You are black and you live in waay waaay South Georgia, you call 911 to report that a black person is acting irrationally and the cops show up and shoot the guy and all of sudden you are surprised?
 
2013-10-08 01:50:00 PM  

exick: I really would like to hear the entirety of this story because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.


In short: cops are stupid. Dumb farking pig sees someone they think is drunk or on drugs and uncooperative but is in insulin shock  Pig feels threatened and shoots victim dead.
 
2013-10-08 01:51:14 PM  
Diabetic issues can make people seem drunk, and sometime belligerent.  Never seen it go violent and threatening, though.

"He didn't have nothing in his hands at any time or period at all before they came, any time while they were here, anything. They just came in and shot him. He didn't say nothing, the police didn't say nothing, anything, it was like a silent movie. You couldn't hear anything, all you could hear were the gun shots go off and I seen them going into his body and he just fell down," cried Alcia Herron, Roberson's fiance."

Yeah, I don't buy that at all.  Cops may not always make the best decisions in a crisis, but they didn't just walk into an unknown situation, pull guns and kill him without threat, provocation, identification, or warning.
 
2013-10-08 01:51:24 PM  

Honest Bender: Diabetic while black.  He should have known better.


Just around midnight, Ah Brown Sugar...
 
2013-10-08 01:51:39 PM  
He didn't do nothin'.
 
2013-10-08 01:53:14 PM  

jake_lex: The increasing willingness of police to see every situation as requiring a SWAT response is a really terrifying development that I don't think gets nearly enough attention.


Actually it does and there are even multiple books and thousands of artciles written about the constant militarization and the increase belligerency of PDs all across the country. The problem is even with all the attention given the average Joe and Jane America STILL doesn't give a flying fark!
 
2013-10-08 01:53:16 PM  
Well everybody knows the whole of US is a warzone, what with the war on drugs and the war on poverty and the war on White Patriotic America by filthy lazy colored looters and moochers. Of course the fine upstanding police officers had to shoot this homicidal maniac, they did not know if he was hopped up on crank, meth, ice, beenies, pot, PCP, or liberalism.

I say they did their duty to god and White America, we need to send these Heroic cops to the White House to take care of another troublesome darkie.
 
2013-10-08 01:53:27 PM  

the_rev: "He didn't have nothing in his hands at any time or period at all before they came, any time while they were here, anything. They just came in and shot him. He didn't say nothing, the police didn't say nothing, anything..."

I find this verrrrry dubious.


Yeah, her version makes no sense at all. She sounds like she is spinning what really happened or hiding something.

Time will tell I guess.
 
2013-10-08 01:53:47 PM  
Cannot be repeated enough: Never, EVER call the cops, or even talk to them. For ANYTHING. EVER.

The halcyon days of Officer Friendly caring about John Q Public and remembering his oath to "protect and defend" are looooong gone. The police have almost entirely succumbed to the militaristic "enemy combatant" mindset and you are now a domestic enemy to be restrained and subdued at all costs, including your life, for any minor transgression or failure to be docile fast enough.

The fact that the few remaining good ones cover and excuse the bad ones is just insult on top of injury.
 
2013-10-08 01:54:37 PM  

jjorsett: Another example of why cops should be required to wear video recording devices. Both to protect themselves against false accusations and to expose the ones that abuse their powers.


THIS

I find it offensive that the police union blocks this. Cameras (mostly) tell the truth. If cops are honest it would protect them from BS claims (as this one appears to be).
 
2013-10-08 01:55:02 PM  
None of this makes any sense. I think we need to wait for the Hallmark Channel to show us what REALLY happened in their upcoming movie-of-the-week, SugarDaddy.
 
2013-10-08 01:55:02 PM  
So, less-lethal methods aren't SOP now? Shoot, just taze the guy if you're unsure. Then, if he doesn't comply/respond and continues to be a thread, shoot him.

And yet they want you to believe that somehow a cop with a gun makes better choices than armed civilians do....
 
2013-10-08 01:56:03 PM  
Anyone notice double negative?  "He didn't have nothing in his hands..."
 
2013-10-08 01:56:36 PM  
"Reason"

Oh thank god. For a second there I thought the tragedy actually happened. This is just anti-government derp, carry along.
 
2013-10-08 01:57:36 PM  

dryknife: He didn't do nothin'.


Came here to biatch about her lack of using the word "anything" also.

/her story sounds like bullshiat btw
 
2013-10-08 01:58:06 PM  

Khellendros: Diabetic issues can make people seem drunk, and sometime belligerent.  Never seen it go violent and threatening, though.

"He didn't have nothing in his hands at any time or period at all before they came, any time while they were here, anything. They just came in and shot him. He didn't say nothing, the police didn't say nothing, anything, it was like a silent movie. You couldn't hear anything, all you could hear were the gun shots go off and I seen them going into his body and he just fell down," cried Alcia Herron, Roberson's fiance."

Yeah, I don't buy that at all.  Cops may not always make the best decisions in a crisis, but they didn't just walk into an unknown situation, pull guns and kill him without threat, provocation, identification, or warning.


Or some kind of direct command. She makes it sound like Jean Dujardin was taken down by the Keystone Kops. I tend to think there must have been some sort of communication before shiat went down.
 
2013-10-08 01:58:17 PM  
My uncle is diabetic and bad about taking care of himself. If his blood sugar gets too low he starts shouting, gets belligerent, and later doesn't remember it (he also faints repeatedly). If someone who didn't know what was going on walked in they'd think he was crazy and/or drunk.

What the cops did was totally and completely inexcusable but I don't think this is as cut and dry as the family is claiming.
 
2013-10-08 01:58:27 PM  
Bad: You take too much diabetes medication and require medical attention. Good: Your fiancé is there to help and calls 911. Fark Not even a little surprising: The police show up at your door and shoot you dead

FTFY subby.
 
2013-10-08 01:59:44 PM  

gretzkyscores: The halcyon days of Officer Friendly


seattletimes.com
 
2013-10-08 01:59:45 PM  

They're lucky he was the only person hit. Usually when the police start shooting they hose down the entire block with lead.



i.imgur.com
After the incident, police ordered residents to stay indoors, but from his window Goo could see dozens of yellow markers on the ground used to mark the stray bullets. While out surveying the damage, he counted five bullets in his entryway, a bullet hole in his garage door, two bullets hits his silver Lexus and another bullet grazed the hood of his Oldsmobile.

"We are lucky because our cars are drivable, unlike our neighbors'," he said. ...

"That's why we live here because it is safe," said the cardiologist technician. "It's ironic that the only violence we experienced here is from LAPD."


From a distance of less than 10 feet , the officers, Craig Matthews and Robert Sinishtaj, answered in unison; one shot nine times and the other seven.
...
But the officers also struck some, if not all, of the nine bystanders who were wounded.


i.imgur.com

 
2013-10-08 02:01:49 PM  
sounds like he was trying to commit suicide and that was intervened.  May be that he was 'combative'...still doesn't require a shooting I'd say...

/not sure if I believe her story
//wish people would be honest
 
2013-10-08 02:03:41 PM  

oldfarthenry: Is this the GOP's alternative to Obamacare?


Alternative?  These ARE the death panels!
 
2013-10-08 02:04:08 PM  

Atypical Person Reading Fark: I find the story believable as written.


You do?  Cops open the door, walk into the room, nobody says anything.  The cops whip out guns, silently pick one of the room's occupants -- the cops must have agreed in advance to commit murder (unless they're psychic cops) -- and kill them for no reason at all.  That is what the mother says happens -- that sounds believable?
 
2013-10-08 02:04:37 PM  
Missing info: What was said to 911.

I'm assuming the cops got there first.  They probably were only told there was a drunk, combative male on the premises with no mitigating medical information.

I've dealt with a few folks in hypoglycemic events.  They can be seriously scary.
 
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