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(CNN)   Nine-year old boy who snuck on to that flight to Vegas the other day is described in court as a "challenging" child, which is apparently what we're now calling a hellish little brat who already has a long rap sheet that includes grand theft auto   (cnn.com) divider line 28
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2013-10-08 02:11:23 PM  
4 votes:

keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.


Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.
2013-10-08 02:42:59 PM  
3 votes:

Fano: dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.

Give it up. You can't win against the reptile part of a parent's brain. Statistics and facts be damned, we've made kids less street smart because kiddy fiddlers are hiding behind every bush. It's starting to become a mass delusion on the scale of witchcraft.


 That's not the problem actually. The problem is that they parents don't know that there *aren't* crazy people nearby. This day and age, almost no one knows who their neighbors are because people are constantly moving.

Back in the day when people would live in one house for the majority of their child's life, and everyone next to them was doing the same thing. So you had years upon years where kids would go out and play together, parents (mom was usually stay at home) would keep an eye on all of them, and if anyone broke a window with a baseball, mom and dad knew within the hour.

 These days you have mixed neighborhoods where some people have kids and some don't. Mom's staying at home are the exception (most houses are empty all day) and not the norm and people are moving frequently. Long term social contact with your neighbors over a moderate area is unusual. And if you don't know who's living near you, you're not going to be letting your kids wander all over (which is just as well, since without supervision of the neighborhood parents the few kids that do generally get into trouble, and I'm not talking small stuff either.)

 Once in a great while you get lucky and a group of people lives in a cul-de-sac with kids the same "age" (close enough anyway) and for a few years you have classic Americana bliss. But it's relatively rare.

/has seen all three scenarios growing up.

2013-10-08 01:49:48 PM  
3 votes:
Budding sociopath. Probably will do great in politics, law, or the CIA--if they can teach him properly before he hits adulthood. Bet Mom did help him get on that flight. With a kid like that I bet she is damn tired. Might not even be her fault he is so "Challenging".
2013-10-08 03:05:08 PM  
2 votes:

keepitcherry: dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.

I guess it all depends on where you live - but where I live we just broke the homicide record last year. If I had kids I sure as shiat wouldn't let them walk home alone.


It's probably everywhere else but where you live:  Homicide is down to the lowest levels we've seen since the early 1960's:

www.zeigen.com


Maybe the absolute numbers are up, but that's because the population is up, which is why you use rate per 100,000, to correct for changes in population levels.
2013-10-08 02:06:27 PM  
2 votes:

keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
2013-10-08 02:01:45 PM  
2 votes:
farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?
2013-10-08 01:55:52 PM  
2 votes:
The newspaper reported that Moore said the boy's mother works at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport and that "there is also an investigation into whether she aided him flying to Las Vegas." The newspaper did not report who was conducting that investigation.

Mom definitely helped him, so he's not so much as a challenge, he's just a twat who needs a real parent, not a facilitator.
2013-10-08 04:45:55 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Red Shirt Blues: I grew up in the 70's and early 80's and we walked or rode our bikes everywhere. I wonder if the molestation/sex offender crimes were the same back then.

I'm willing to bet that they were, and perhaps even worse because you didn't have things like sex offender registries.


I remember growing up in the 70's and things were so radically different then.  For example,I recently thought of a friendship I'd struck up at 8 or 9 with the delivery boy for the local paper who was probably 13-14 at the time. My backyard (which was huge and heavily grown with hedges and suchlike) was a shortcut for him at the end of his route, and I'd wait to talk and hang out with him there and  he'd always use a little of his delivery money to get a bag of candy from the nearby 5 and dime and share it with me.  Now, when I had that memory, I actually spent about an hour carefully searching my brain to make sure I wasn't supressing some sort of memory of molestation or assault because what seemed so normal then (a nice teen ager sharing his cand with his little friend)  Now seems so out of place that I was almost conivced there MUST have been more to it.

/don;t even get me started abut walking the 2 miles home from rifle practice every afternoon as a 12-year old through a very suburban neighborhood with a very real .22 rifle slung over my should (no ammo, no clip and bolt open per my dad's instructions, but doubt nayone these days would take long enough to figure that out )
2013-10-08 04:02:34 PM  
1 votes:

ocd002: The police put a locator anklet on him. Maybe those should be available to the general parenting public. I'm all for chipping my kid until they are 18 since I am legally responsible for them until that age.


1. Chips are extremely short range.

2. Congratulations, you just trained your kid for his entire young life that he's a prisoner who will be monitored ceaselessly.  That doesn't teach responsibility.  That teaches blind obedience to authority, which is a bad thing.
2013-10-08 03:47:34 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.


My grandpa used to be left for days on end alone from age 8 in the mountains in Italy to watch the horses. This was in the mid 1930's, and yeah there weren't any people around to bother him, but they did have bears and wolves up there, and I'm pretty sure all he was armed with was a knife and a stick from a tree.

The other moms on my street were having a cow about the kids having to walk to the junior high a mile away, through the sidewalked neighborhood. It's not that far, and by age 13 I think they can walk or ride their bike alone. They were already discussing carpooling. The kids were in kindergarten at the time. Don't they realize that by 13 these kids won't want to be seen getting dropped off at school?

This kid though, he's a handful. If this was the first thing he had pulled, I would suspect the mom being involved as she works there, but this is just the latest in a string of exploits and they said today on tv he was going to meet an online game friend and I doubt the mom would have ok'd that. Some kids are just a handful to deal with. That doesn't excuse the parents though. The police put a locator anklet on him. Maybe those should be available to the general parenting public. I'm all for chipping my kid until they are 18 since I am legally responsible for them until that age. Besides, no one would kidnap a kid knowing the kid would be quickly located.
2013-10-08 03:38:11 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Red Shirt Blues: I grew up in the 70's and early 80's and we walked or rode our bikes everywhere. I wonder if the molestation/sex offender crimes were the same back then.

I'm willing to bet that they were, and perhaps even worse because you didn't have things like sex offender registries.


This may be where the 90% of women have been raped in their lifetimes, or whatever the really high number comes from. I would certainly concede that the number of unreported rapes/abductions/unsolved murders surely would have been much higher back then. How many people hitchhike or pick up hitchhikers anymore? Hitchhiking used to be really common.
2013-10-08 03:26:37 PM  
1 votes:

Red Shirt Blues: I grew up in the 70's and early 80's and we walked or rode our bikes everywhere. I wonder if the molestation/sex offender crimes were the same back then.


I'm willing to bet that they were, and perhaps even worse because you didn't have things like sex offender registries.
2013-10-08 03:20:38 PM  
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?


Even sadder is that the Mom will drive the kids one driveway away in a residential area instead of walking with them.
Elementary bus stop has been at my driveway for 15 years.  When the next door neighbors kid was on that bus, Mom would drive the kid down the driveway and maybe 4 car lengths down the road to my driveway.  Then they'd sit in the car until the bus came around the corner.  Then she'd drive back home.  Geez lady, you're up and dressed, why not walk your kid the whole 30 yards and get some fresh air, if you need to keep an eye on them?
2013-10-08 03:14:15 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: keepitcherry: dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.

I guess it all depends on where you live - but where I live we just broke the homicide record last year. If I had kids I sure as shiat wouldn't let them walk home alone.

It's probably everywhere else but where you live:  Homicide is down to the lowest levels we've seen since the early 1960's:

[www.zeigen.com image 850x611]


Maybe the absolute numbers are up, but that's because the population is up, which is why you use rate per 100,000, to correct for changes in population levels.


I grew up in the 70's and early 80's and we walked or rode our bikes everywhere. I wonder if the molestation/sex offender crimes were the same back then.
2013-10-08 03:10:59 PM  
1 votes:

cuzsis: That's not the problem actually. The problem is that they parents don't know that there *aren't* crazy people nearby. This day and age, almost no one knows who their neighbors are because people are constantly moving.


If you live in a neighborhood with turnover like that, then what do you expect?

Where I live, we have a block party every year.  We block off the street at both ends, and have a big party.   Not *EVERYONE* attends, but most do for at least part of the day.

It's not that we're all that exceptional, either.  Boring middle class neighborhood.  But a lot of us have kids, and we look out for each other.
2013-10-08 02:51:11 PM  
1 votes:

Electromax: Whiskey Dickens: keepitcherry: dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.

I guess it all depends on where you live - but where I live we just broke the homicide record last year. If I had kids I sure as shiat wouldn't let them walk home alone.

Yeah, those criminal animals love nothing more than shooting random children at 3:30 PM.

I don't have kids and my parents always let me walk home so I'm not defending helicopterism, but Chicago has a high homicide rate and "criminal animals" DO shoot random children in the afternoon if you have to walk through the wrong place, it doesn't mean they're hitting them on purpose.

http://kidshootings.blogspot.com/2013/08/7-year-old-chicago-boy-shot -b y-stray.html

(I just googled that, don't want to spend much time on kidshootings.com)

There's also stuff like this which may or may not be fearmongering but gets parents clutching their britches:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/22506584-418/safe-passage-rou te s-rife-with-sex-offenders.html


Even in the worst Chicago neighborhoods, it is far more dangerous to drive a child to school than to let him walk.
2013-10-08 02:35:34 PM  
1 votes:

keepitcherry: dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.

I guess it all depends on where you live - but where I live we just broke the homicide record last year. If I had kids I sure as shiat wouldn't let them walk home alone.


Yeah, those criminal animals love nothing more than shooting random children at 3:30 PM.
2013-10-08 02:31:49 PM  
1 votes:

keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.


It ain't any more dangerous now than it was 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago...There's danger now, there was danger then. The difference is weather or not parents shiat their pants every time Junior goes outside.
2013-10-08 02:22:49 PM  
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?


I can do one better. I live in a small village, about 1 mile long x 1/2 mile. I'm basically in the middle.The school is about 1/4 mile away. There is a bus stop across the street. Parents drive their kids to the bus stop, then the bus drives them the other two blocks......
2013-10-08 02:17:17 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.


Give it up. You can't win against the reptile part of a parent's brain. Statistics and facts be damned, we've made kids less street smart because kiddy fiddlers are hiding behind every bush. It's starting to become a mass delusion on the scale of witchcraft.
2013-10-08 02:17:03 PM  
1 votes:
2013-10-08 02:13:32 PM  
1 votes:
keepitcherry:

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Wasn't just the 50s...

JERRY MURPHY MISSING

HIS FATHER THINKS THE BOY WAS MURDERED

Brooklyn Daily Eagle July 28, 1893

The lad was bound out last winter by St. John's Home to James Frahy a Bridgehampton Farmer, since which time nothing has been heard of him. Frahy says Jerry started to walk home sometime in March.

Jerimiah Murphy of 23 south 6st believes that his 12-year-old son and namesake has been murdered, although he has no direct evidence of  which to base such an accusation. According to the story he told an Eagle reporter last evening he has been engaged in an unfailing search for Jeremiah ever sense last February.

"In May a year ago," said he," my wife's health became so bad that she was unable to look after the house and as I was out of work at the time, we were unable to support our two little boys and I had them committed to St. John's home. A month later things looked so much brighter -- I applied to have both  boys returned to me, and was told at the office of the Commissioner of Charities and corrections that my request would be granted. I went to the home and found Bennie but learned that Jeremiah had been apprenticed to a Farmer named James Fahey of Bridgehampton. I would have gone there at once but was attacked by illness again and it was several months before I could move. Then I wrote to Mr. Fahey asking that my son be sent home at once. I got no answer to this, and in February I sent another letter. This letter this letter brought a reply from Fahey to the effect that Jeremiah had decided to, come home by himself. I waited patiently for the boy for over a week and then wrote his employer again and received the following reply

Dear Sir

in reply to your letter which I received a week ago I would say that I was very much surprised to hear that Jerry has not reached home yet. I thought he had to be home long ago. Well, Mr. Murphy inquired all through sag Harbor and I could not find any trace of him.

My opinion is that he walked up Long Island intending to reach home and found work somewhere and he will come home to you. Tell your wife not to worry herself about him as he was abundantly capable of looking after himself.

Mr Murphy continued

As soon as I received this letter I went down to Bridgehampton myself and was cordially treated by Mr. Fahey. Nowhere however, did I learn anything regarding my boy's fate, although some people thought he might have been put out of the way. Nobody saw him when he left the farm and started for Brooklyn, and it looks as if he were made away with, but I am to poor to prosecute the search as it should be prosecuted and accordingly have but little hopes of ever seeing my boy again. 

Of course there wasn't a Nancy Grace discussing #Farmboy and #Faheydidit with the town criers and penny dreadful salesmen of the day.
2013-10-08 02:13:21 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: keepitcherry: CrazyCracka420: farking helicopter parents and their "special" snowflake children.

I don't know if I think it's hilarious or sad that there's a line of 10 cars waiting outside of every bus stop for their child to get off the school bus.  Since when did kids lose the ability to walk a block home from the bus stop?

This ain't the 50's anymore champ.

Really?  Because I had to walk home from the bus stop in the 1970's, and crime (including youth crime) was much, much greater back then.


I guess it all depends on where you live - but where I live we just broke the homicide record last year. If I had kids I sure as shiat wouldn't let them walk home alone.
2013-10-08 02:01:40 PM  
1 votes:
But he slid right through TSA.
2013-10-08 01:59:06 PM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org
2013-10-08 01:56:06 PM  
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i.imgur.com
2013-10-08 01:47:12 PM  
1 votes:

HangMan: Wouldn't that be grand theft aero?


No this kid, at NINE YEARS OLD, has already stolen a car once, and apparently snuck into an amusement park by pretending to be part of a large family group
2013-10-08 01:42:14 PM  
1 votes:
Induct this kid into the CIA already.  He's clearly cut out for it, he just needs some proper training and discipline.
 
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