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2013-10-08 12:35:29 PM  
obuma pls
 
2013-10-08 12:35:34 PM  
Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?
 
2013-10-08 12:36:46 PM  
It's almost like actions have consequences or something.  Too bad most tea partiers aren't cognitively capable of connecting cause to effect.
 
2013-10-08 12:37:17 PM  
When you shut down the government, it means something.
 
2013-10-08 12:37:46 PM  
What, did they think closing down the federal government wouldn't affect everybody in one way or another?

I would imagine more than a few members of congress had hunting trips planned in the next month or so. Oh well. They can count themselves lucky not to be starving.
 
2013-10-08 12:38:56 PM  
Is there any way we can just shut the government down for the poors!?
 
2013-10-08 12:39:41 PM  
I don't understand why the federal government would have control over this. I thought hunting/fishing licenses were issued at the state level.
 
2013-10-08 12:40:02 PM  

coeyagi: Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?


No but the user can wear a camo muumuu.  It's like a poncho but think rainy baseball diamond...yeah about that size.
 
2013-10-08 12:40:17 PM  
The only way anyone will understand the gravity of the situation is if everyone bleeds. For too long people have been content with gutting or destroying things they don't see themselves as needing or wanting. As a result, if they don't feel pain then it is not a problem, who cares if it causes others pain, they are morally inferior otherwise they would not feel the pain.

Actions have consequences, and it is time for everyone to bleed.
 
2013-10-08 12:40:21 PM  
Tea Partiers don't actually hate government. They are told to hate the word government.
 
2013-10-08 12:40:21 PM  

coeyagi: Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?


www.outboundmobility.com
 
2013-10-08 12:40:24 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: It's almost like actions have consequences or something.  Too bad most tea partiers aren't cognitively capable of connecting cause to effect.


actions have consequences
actions have consequences
actions have consequences
actions have consequences
actions have consequences
actions have consequences
 
2013-10-08 12:41:08 PM  
Take away golf. I'd love to see the backlash from that.
 
2013-10-08 12:41:17 PM  
Totally not the usual culture war and tribalism, I swear.
 
2013-10-08 12:41:24 PM  
So many AR-15's will go unused. Or not.
 
2013-10-08 12:41:43 PM  
But Teapartiers live off  that venison!

Fartbongo bin Muslin al Hadj is starvin mah people!

/there's always roadkill for supper
 
2013-10-08 12:42:11 PM  
But would "no hunting season" mean that they could hunt whenever and whatever they want?
 
2013-10-08 12:42:31 PM  

FarkedOver: Is there any way we can just shut the government down for the poors!?


Thats what they thought they were doing.
Why do you think the only things they are whining about are monuments, hunting season, etc.
 
2013-10-08 12:42:46 PM  

CarnySaur: But would "no hunting season" mean that they could hunt whenever and whatever they want?


Can we hunt the poors yet?
 
2013-10-08 12:43:23 PM  

dantheman195: I don't understand why the federal government would have control over this. I thought hunting/fishing licenses were issued at the state level.


DNRTFA, didya?

My favorite beach, Padre Island National Seashore, is closed at the height of the Fall redfish run.
Fark you, ya damn teatards.
 
2013-10-08 12:43:36 PM  
farm3.staticflickr.com

RWers not thinking their cunning plans through?  Must be a day that ends in "y".
 
2013-10-08 12:43:48 PM  
I think my favorite part of the shutdown so far has been Michele Bachmann saying she got exactly what she wanted, and then like a day later she's yelling at a park ranger asking why people can't get into a national monument.
 
2013-10-08 12:44:13 PM  

FarkedOver: Is there any way we can just shut the government down for the poors!?


That still won't help the Teabaggers.
 
2013-10-08 12:44:44 PM  

Cargo: FarkedOver: Is there any way we can just shut the government down for the poors!?

That still won't help the Teabaggers.


Teabaggers are just down on their luck millionaires.  They'll be rich before you know it.
 
2013-10-08 12:44:52 PM  
Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.
 
2013-10-08 12:45:49 PM  
Hunting and fishing licenses are just wasteful Big Government in action.
 
2013-10-08 12:45:52 PM  
See, this is why Obama should agree to the GOP's piecemeal attempts to pass funding for things that the tea partiers like.  So they don't have to suffer any bad effects but everyone else does.

"Freedom" is not having to pay for the government, while enjoying the benefits of government.That sums up the tea party's world view pretty well.
 
2013-10-08 12:46:25 PM  
This should fix that ammo shortage problem.
 
2013-10-08 12:47:04 PM  
Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Tea Party season.

Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Tea Party season.

Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Obama season.

Tea Party: TEA PARTY SEASON! FIRE!
 
2013-10-08 12:47:05 PM  

topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.


I thought the tea party was a multiracial, diverse group of people?
 
2013-10-08 12:47:15 PM  

dantheman195: I don't understand why the federal government would have control over this. I thought hunting/fishing licenses were issued at the state level.


If only there was some sort of convenient news link to click on to get the answers to that question...
 
2013-10-08 12:47:36 PM  

topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.


You're obviously unaware that there are some stereotypes that are politically correct.  Don't worry, this is the good kind of bigotry.
 
2013-10-08 12:47:40 PM  
Is there anyone to enforce hunting season?

If you hunt who's going to stop you?
 
2013-10-08 12:47:52 PM  
I bet the NRA is happy about this shutdown, right?  RIGHT?
 
2013-10-08 12:47:59 PM  

coeyagi: Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?


i78.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-08 12:48:38 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Tea Party season.

Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Tea Party season.

Tea Party: Obama season!

Obama: Obama season.

Tea Party: TEA PARTY SEASON! FIRE!


You're dethpicable.
 
2013-10-08 12:48:41 PM  
The government has no business regulating government land anyway!
 
2013-10-08 12:48:53 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I think my favorite part of the shutdown so far has been Michele Bachmann saying she got exactly what she wanted, and then like a day later she's yelling at a park ranger asking why people can't get into a national monument.


It's like she doesn't have a clue about how the Government she works for actually works

/I'll be happy to see her gone at the end of her term
 
2013-10-08 12:49:03 PM  
This just goes to prove that the federal goverment is too big and intrusive in are lives - they shouldn't be involved in hunting and fisting in the first place.
 
2013-10-08 12:49:37 PM  
How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?
 
2013-10-08 12:49:49 PM  

topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.


Teabaggers aren't the only ones who hunt and fish, but they were the only ones cheering FOR a government shutdown.
 
2013-10-08 12:49:54 PM  

Wyalt Derp: This just goes to prove that the federal goverment is too big and intrusive in are lives - they shouldn't be involved in hunting and fisting in the first place.


Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.
 
2013-10-08 12:50:11 PM  

timswar: What, did they think closing down the federal government wouldn't affect everybody in one way or another?

I would imagine more than a few members of congress had hunting trips planned in the next month or so. Oh well. They can count themselves lucky not to be starving.


Because these people and the people that were applauding the shutdown didn't think that the federal government had any bearing on their lives accept for making their lives miserable. Now that they found out that their childish beliefs are wrong, and shutting down the government has a direct affect on things they need and things they like to do they are regretting their own decisions in the most childish way possible, by putting the blame on somebody else.
 
2013-10-08 12:50:33 PM  

zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?


Almost to extinction.

Jesus Christ people, don't you understand your own history?
 
2013-10-08 12:50:42 PM  

Wyalt Derp: This just goes to prove that the federal goverment is too big and intrusive in are lives - they shouldn't be involved in hunting and fisting in the first place.


I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I lol'ed.
 
2013-10-08 12:50:53 PM  

paygun: topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

You're obviously unaware that there are some stereotypes that are politically correct.  Don't worry, this is the good kind of bigotry.


Or maybe you both just totally missed the point.

Hint: It's not about hunting or fishing
 
2013-10-08 12:51:19 PM  

topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.


Shut up biatch
 
2013-10-08 12:51:46 PM  

ongbok: Because these people and the people that were applauding the shutdown didn't think that the federal government had any bearing on their lives accept for making their lives miserable.


And now that government is making their lives miserable, they'll know better!
 
2013-10-08 12:52:05 PM  
FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!
 
2013-10-08 12:52:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.

I thought the tea party was a multiracial, diverse group of people?


Sure.....

There's white, ecru, mother-of-pearl, taupe, ivory, cream, vanilla...

Those are all different kinds of white.
 
2013-10-08 12:52:29 PM  

Gilligann: Is there anyone to enforce hunting season?
If you hunt who's going to stop you?


You can probably get away with poaching for quite a while, if that's what you're asking. People can and do.
But if you get caught, the penalties can be pretty stiff.
 
2013-10-08 12:52:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Wyalt Derp: This just goes to prove that the federal goverment is too big and intrusive in are lives - they shouldn't be involved in hunting and fisting in the first place.

Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.



I think the any resolution of the debt ceiling "crisis" should be resolved by requiring every American who agrees with the tea party to take a basic government/civics course, in hopes that they can maybe learn about and somewhat understand why government exists and how it functions.
 
2013-10-08 12:53:06 PM  

paygun: topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

You're obviously unaware that there are some stereotypes that are politically correct.  Don't worry, this is the good kind of bigotry.


Well, since you both seem unable to grasp the basic problem the headline points out- its not the Tea Party hunters, it's the Tea Party Representatives that engineered the shutdown that did not consider the backlash of their constituency (tea party or not ) that are hunters. It's highly likely that Tea Party representatives come from districts with a high number of hunters and anglers.
 
Bf+
2013-10-08 12:53:12 PM  

ongbok: they are regretting their own decisions in the most childish way possible, by putting the blame on somebody else.


images.sodahead.com

/aren't negotiating.
//closed the government
///have a biased news station
////are bad
//so vote Republican
 
2013-10-08 12:53:19 PM  
Cause Kuntry folks kan survive...
 
2013-10-08 12:53:21 PM  

zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?


Inefficiently, which led to the extinction of several species.
 
2013-10-08 12:54:54 PM  
Is it me, or does this thread feature a lot more people imagining what they think the Teabaggers believe than it does evidence of actual reactions?

I know, welcome to Fark etc etc...
 
2013-10-08 12:55:20 PM  
Tea Party: We don't think the government does anything for people, so let's shut it down and prove to voters how much they actually rely on the government every day of their lives. BRILLIANT!
 
2013-10-08 12:56:13 PM  

paygun: ongbok: Because these people and the people that were applauding the shutdown didn't think that the federal government had any bearing on their lives accept for making their lives miserable.

And now that government is making their lives miserable, they'll know better!


The government isn't making their lives miserable, their own actions to shut down the government is what is making their lives miserable. Saying that the government is making their lives miserable because of this shutdown is like blaming the person who you murdered for making your life miserable because as a result you had to go to trial and was sentenced to a prison term.
 
2013-10-08 12:56:16 PM  

BMulligan: This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!


There's no sex in the champagne room either.
 
2013-10-08 12:56:30 PM  

coeyagi: Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?


Yes.

www.seatcoversunlimited.com
 
2013-10-08 12:56:37 PM  

The Numbers: Is it me, or does this thread feature a lot more people imagining what they think the Teabaggers believe than it does evidence of actual reactions?

I know, welcome to Fark etc etc...


No, the Tea Party's actual reaction was "we got what we wanted, and we're very excited."

Now? Not so much.
 
2013-10-08 12:56:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

Almost to extinction.

Jesus Christ people, don't you understand your own history?


Their history is being delivered by passenger pigeon, should be here any day now.
Yup, any day.
 
2013-10-08 12:57:47 PM  

timswar: What, did they think closing down the federal government wouldn't affect everybody in one way or another?

I would imagine more than a few members of congress had hunting trips planned in the next month or so. Oh well. They can count themselves lucky not to be starving.


Presumably the shutdown would mean there are no rangers to enforce hunting and fishing regs, so hunters can do what they want to some extent.

I'd think the teabaggers would be happy about that.
 
2013-10-08 12:57:57 PM  
That Tea Party forgot that with their arrogance come consequences.
 
2013-10-08 12:57:58 PM  

BMulligan: FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!


Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.
 
2013-10-08 12:58:18 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: The only way anyone will understand the gravity of the situation is if everyone bleeds.


But the deer won't be bleeding if hunters can't get licenses.

/Sadly, I know a few "hunters" who think the shutdown just means the laws about hunting are nullified.
 
2013-10-08 01:00:09 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Numbers: Is it me, or does this thread feature a lot more people imagining what they think the Teabaggers believe than it does evidence of actual reactions?

I know, welcome to Fark etc etc...

No, the Tea Party's actual reaction was "we got what we wanted, and we're very excited."

Now? Not so much.


Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.  The hunting / fishing groups mentioned in the article are very likely full of people with vary political views.

But go ahead and keep playing stupid.
 
2013-10-08 01:00:21 PM  

ongbok: The government isn't making their lives miserable, their own actions to shut down the government is what is making their lives miserable. Saying that the government is making their lives miserable because of this shutdown is like blaming the person who you murdered for making your life miserable because as a result you had to go to trial and was sentenced to a prison term.


You're right, the federal government answers directly to the tea party.  How could I have missed that?  What's even more insidious is that they've conned all these officials into claiming their superiors in the federal government have ordered them to do these things, when it's really just some tea party guy in a basement somewhere calling all the shots.  We're through the rabbit hole people.
 
2013-10-08 01:00:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

Almost to extinction.

Jesus Christ people, don't you understand your own history?


Well, the Texas school board of education has been rewriting most of it.
 
2013-10-08 01:00:56 PM  

topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.


Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.
 
2013-10-08 01:01:13 PM  
Wabbit season!
Derp season!
 
2013-10-08 01:01:30 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Tea Party: We don't think the government does anything for people, so let's shut it down and prove to voters how much they actually rely on the government every day of their lives. BRILLIANT!


Yup.

Some friends of mine have sold their house - it got through negotiations and inspections and approval and all that, they're just waiting to close.

But they can't.  Because the buyers are using a Federal loan program.  So they're all just sitting on their thumbs until the government reopens.  All that economic activity not happening every day in unexpected places, it just kills you.
 
2013-10-08 01:01:58 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.


Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.
 
2013-10-08 01:02:00 PM  

LittleSmitty: Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.


I have seen a number of Disney movies with all manner of talking animals and I'll have you know that there is nothing of this sort in any of them.  Are you some kind of tea party person?
 
2013-10-08 01:02:29 PM  
It's a damn good thing I didn't get my hunting license this year (business travel interfered and will continue to interfere, so I didn't bother since I couldn't get the time off), because I really only get to use federal lands.

I'd be even more pissed at Republicans than I already am.
 
2013-10-08 01:02:45 PM  

topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.


No, seriously, we can't mention teabagger reaction unless it's specifically in the article? Where's that rule located? I'll be sure to follow it from now on.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:05 PM  

LittleSmitty: BMulligan: FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!

Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.


I know - the program my wife works for is involved in wolf reintroduction. I've learned a great deal lately about how losing top level predators have effects that reach all through the ecosystem, such as stream banks without vegetation (due to trampling by overly plentiful ungulates) which in turn decimates trout populations. Interesting stuff, and quite thought provoking.

But at the moment I just wanted to laugh about the mildly ironic use of the world "refuge" in this context.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:11 PM  
But I was told this was just a slimdown.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:32 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: timswar: What, did they think closing down the federal government wouldn't affect everybody in one way or another?

I would imagine more than a few members of congress had hunting trips planned in the next month or so. Oh well. They can count themselves lucky not to be starving.

Presumably the shutdown would mean there are no rangers to enforce hunting and fishing regs, so hunters can do what they want to some extent.

I'd think the teabaggers would be happy about that.


Considering the average teabagger, I doubt they have to stones to find out.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:34 PM  

paygun: ongbok: The government isn't making their lives miserable, their own actions to shut down the government is what is making their lives miserable. Saying that the government is making their lives miserable because of this shutdown is like blaming the person who you murdered for making your life miserable because as a result you had to go to trial and was sentenced to a prison term.

You're right, the federal government answers directly to the tea party.  How could I have missed that?  What's even more insidious is that they've conned all these officials into claiming their superiors in the federal government have ordered them to do these things, when it's really just some tea party guy in a basement somewhere calling all the shots.  We're through the rabbit hole people.


They are the ones that have engineered this shutdown with threats of primarying any Republican in the House that didn't vote for it.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.

No, seriously, we can't mention teabagger reaction unless it's specifically in the article? Where's that rule located? I'll be sure to follow it from now on.


I would guess you know the rules better than me, since you appear in almost every thread I click on.  Guess the career situation for you might be a little slow right now.
 
2013-10-08 01:03:55 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: But I was told this was just a slimdown.


You gotta .. catapult the propaganda.
 
2013-10-08 01:04:04 PM  
Another unintended consequence of the the shutdown: more car accidents.

(Seriously. Lots of deer mean lots of car accidents.)
 
2013-10-08 01:04:13 PM  
ITT: People that would jump into a pool, get pissed about getting wet, then blame the water for getting them wet.
 
2013-10-08 01:04:29 PM  

paygun: LittleSmitty: Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I have seen a number of Disney movies with all manner of talking animals and I'll have you know that there is nothing of this sort in any of them.  Are you some kind of tea party person?


Didn't Bambi watch his mother get shot in the first five minutes of the movie?
 
2013-10-08 01:04:45 PM  

paygun: You're right, the federal government answers directly to the tea party. How could I have missed that? What's even more insidious is that they've conned all these officials into claiming their superiors in the federal government have ordered them to do these things, when it's really just some tea party guy in a basement somewhere calling all the shots. We're through the rabbit hole people.


You disingenuous twat.

Tea Party congressmen do what their Tea Party constituents want them to do.
Tea Party congressmen are the entire reason the government is shut down.
Government is shut down, so the officials' superiors tell them to shut. everything. down. like it's freaking Madagascar.

So, in a nutshell, yes, some tea party guy in his underpants (on his head, mind you) IS calling the shots, in a way.  And that's what's so sickening about all this.  A tiny minority of the population wants this shutdown, and they're getting their way.
 
2013-10-08 01:05:55 PM  

zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?


With extreme anxiety, a musket, a hatchet and a good knife.  You know this comfortable thing we call civilization? Thank Government for that, otherwise we would still have to watch our backs when roaming away from our strongholds and be wary of bandits and indigenous folk who don't want us on their sacred lands.

This whole Park closure thing can be settled right now.  Want to go in? Fine, there is no ranger service or rescue op, if you get lost, mauled by wildlife or robbed by desperate homeless folk you cannot hold the US government or any organization liable.  Here sign this waiver and best of luck to ya!
 
2013-10-08 01:06:00 PM  

LittleSmitty: paygun: LittleSmitty: Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I have seen a number of Disney movies with all manner of talking animals and I'll have you know that there is nothing of this sort in any of them.  Are you some kind of tea party person?

Didn't Bambi watch his mother get shot in the first five minutes of the movie?


Was that before or after the evil hunters burned the forest down?
 
2013-10-08 01:06:11 PM  
If anything, this goes to show us that we should privatize federal grounds and hunting licenses so that the pesky government doesn't go butting into our affairs.
 
2013-10-08 01:06:22 PM  

ongbok: They are the ones that have engineered this shutdown with threats of primarying any Republican in the House that didn't vote for it.


Yes they did, and the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible, in order to inflict as much political damage on Republicans as possible.  It's not exactly a secret.

This is temper tantrum all around.
 
2013-10-08 01:07:02 PM  

Citris: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

With extreme anxiety, a musket, a hatchet and a good knife.  You know this comfortable thing we call civilization? Thank Government for that, otherwise we would still have to watch our backs when roaming away from our strongholds and be wary of bandits and indigenous folk who don't want us on their sacred lands.

This whole Park closure thing can be settled right now.  Want to go in? Fine, there is no ranger service or rescue op, if you get lost, mauled by wildlife or robbed by desperate homeless folk you cannot hold the US government or any organization liable.  Here sign this waiver and best of luck to ya!


I still disagree with that, because when these idiots wander the park, dropping their trash everywhere, there's no one to clean it up, no one to repair trails, etc.
 
2013-10-08 01:07:03 PM  
WUT?  Pulls out cell phone.  Hey John any one going to be out by the NE valley Saturday?  Nope, good mind if I sit up in the deerstand.  Good good, I will give you a call if I need to barrow the quad.

WHEW, was a little scared there.
 
2013-10-08 01:07:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I think my favorite part of the shutdown so far has been Michele Bachmann saying she got exactly what she wanted, and then like a day later she's yelling at a park ranger asking why people can't get into a national monument.


Yes...but she's either too stupd, or too crazy, to make the connection herself.
 
2013-10-08 01:07:22 PM  

BMulligan: LittleSmitty: BMulligan: FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!

Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I know - the program my wife works for is involved in wolf reintroduction. I've learned a great deal lately about how losing top level predators have effects that reach all through the ecosystem, such as stream banks without vegetation (due to trampling by overly plentiful ungulates) which in turn decimates trout populations. Interesting stuff, and quite thought provoking.

But at the moment I just wanted to laugh about the mildly ironic use of the world "refuge" in this context.


Well the word refuge in this sense doesn't apply to the animal, it applies to the hunter. It is more like "Hey mister hunter, welcome to our hunting sanctuary here. Make yourself nice and comfy and..... look there's a rabbit, shoot it!!!"
 
2013-10-08 01:07:44 PM  

DeaH: fuhfuhfuh: The only way anyone will understand the gravity of the situation is if everyone bleeds.

But the deer won't be bleeding if hunters can't get licenses.

/Sadly, I know a few "hunters" who think the shutdown just means the laws about hunting are nullified.


I was wondering about that actually. The laws aren't being nullified, but I wonder if the manpower to enforce them will be effected at all. Just because they're not issuing licenses doesn't mean people won't be hunting or fishing.
 
2013-10-08 01:07:45 PM  

RedPhoenix122: LittleSmitty: paygun: LittleSmitty: Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I have seen a number of Disney movies with all manner of talking animals and I'll have you know that there is nothing of this sort in any of them.  Are you some kind of tea party person?

Didn't Bambi watch his mother get shot in the first five minutes of the movie?

Was that before or after the evil hunters burned the forest down?


If the government was shutdown at the time the hunter wouldn't have been able to kill Bambi's mother, which led to her father abandoning him.

See?  Government shutdowns are good!
 
2013-10-08 01:08:35 PM  

paygun: the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible


[citation needed]
 
2013-10-08 01:08:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.


Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.
 
2013-10-08 01:09:00 PM  
The article didn't even try to link it to conservative political groups of any kind, and this is TP, where smearing the other side is a pastime.

Farklibs: not god's brightest creatures.
 
2013-10-08 01:09:08 PM  

paygun: ongbok: They are the ones that have engineered this shutdown with threats of primarying any Republican in the House that didn't vote for it.

Yes they did, and the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible, in order to inflict as much political damage on Republicans as possible.  It's not exactly a secret.


I've seen maybe one or two unattributed quotes in right-wing stories that even suggest at something like this. Where is the evidence that 'the word has come down from on high' as you suggest? Because what is not exactly a secret is that that is right-wing hyperbole.
 
2013-10-08 01:09:36 PM  

pyrotek85: Just because they're not issuing licenses doesn't mean people won't be hunting or fishing.


Around here if you hunt without a license you've committed a crime except for a few specific circumstances.  The government not issuing a license isn't one of them.
 
2013-10-08 01:10:00 PM  
If nobody is on duty, how can they stop you from hunting and fishing? They won't know you're there.
 
2013-10-08 01:10:31 PM  

theknuckler_33: paygun: ongbok: They are the ones that have engineered this shutdown with threats of primarying any Republican in the House that didn't vote for it.

Yes they did, and the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible, in order to inflict as much political damage on Republicans as possible.  It's not exactly a secret.

I've seen maybe one or two unattributed quotes in right-wing stories that even suggest at something like this. Where is the evidence that 'the word has come down from on high' as you suggest? Because what is not exactly a secret is that that is right-wing hyperbole.


It's only OK when they do it.  They can make up any conspiracy about Obama that they want, but don't you dare imply that the Tea Party hunt or fish.
 
2013-10-08 01:11:09 PM  

zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.


The take away is that the government can't be trusted to do anything correctly.  Take every single acre of federal land and sell it off and use it to pay down the debt.  Imagine when these lands are in the hands of private citizens or private companies, the good that will come of it, the bison that will be saved?
 
2013-10-08 01:11:12 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Citris: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

With extreme anxiety, a musket, a hatchet and a good knife.  You know this comfortable thing we call civilization? Thank Government for that, otherwise we would still have to watch our backs when roaming away from our strongholds and be wary of bandits and indigenous folk who don't want us on their sacred lands.

This whole Park closure thing can be settled right now.  Want to go in? Fine, there is no ranger service or rescue op, if you get lost, mauled by wildlife or robbed by desperate homeless folk you cannot hold the US government or any organization liable.  Here sign this waiver and best of luck to ya!

I still disagree with that, because when these idiots wander the park, dropping their trash everywhere, there's no one to clean it up, no one to repair trails, etc.


It's simpler than that. There is no funding to operate the park, therefore the park cannot operate. Not just from a pragmatic standpoint, but from a legal stand point. Period. End of discussion.
 
2013-10-08 01:11:38 PM  
RedPhoenix122:

I still disagree with that, because when these idiots wander the park, dropping their trash everywhere, there's no one to clean it up, no one to repair trails, etc.

And a good reason too, mostly I made the point to illustrate the need for even scant few personnel to maintain the services that are provided.  Trust me, I am definitely the last one to want our parks to turn into heaping piles of trash because imbeciles can't clean up after themselves.
 
2013-10-08 01:11:46 PM  

BMulligan: LittleSmitty: BMulligan: FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!

Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I know - the program my wife works for is involved in wolf reintroduction. I've learned a great deal lately about how losing top level predators have effects that reach all through the ecosystem, such as stream banks without vegetation (due to trampling by overly plentiful ungulates) which in turn decimates trout populations. Interesting stuff, and quite thought provoking.

But at the moment I just wanted to laugh about the mildly ironic use of the world "refuge" in this context.


Yeah, wildlife management is far more complicated than most folks realize. It's really cool your wife is involved in something like this. Someone mentioned here very recently that the first person to spot a wolf in Kentucky in nearly 50 years shot it on site. That's just dumb.
 
2013-10-08 01:12:54 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: It's almost like actions have consequences or something.  Too bad most tea partiers aren't cognitively capable of connecting cause to effect.


exiledonline.com
"BUT BUT BUT.........can't we just have it so that only WHITE people can go hunting & fishing?"
 
2013-10-08 01:13:20 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: paygun: the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible

[citation needed]


Blocking roadside access to view Mount Rushmore.  Come on, that's ridiculous.
 
2013-10-08 01:13:31 PM  

paygun: pyrotek85: Just because they're not issuing licenses doesn't mean people won't be hunting or fishing.

Around here if you hunt without a license you've committed a crime except for a few specific circumstances.  The government not issuing a license isn't one of them.


I know, that's my point. What I'm wondering is how many people would actually be caught doing so. I don't know how the shutdown will effect enforcement of those laws.
 
2013-10-08 01:14:12 PM  
Hunting is for losers. And only retard Teabaggers hunt. They have guns and stuff and use them to kill innocent things. This situation should be considered a plus for the government shutdown. All anti-hunting people should be rejoicing that the slaughter has stopped.
 
2013-10-08 01:14:16 PM  

TV's Vinnie: "BUT BUT BUT.........can't we just have it so that only WHITE people can go hunting & fishing?"


I'm OK with that, as long as they're enclosed in in a specific 5 mile x 5 mile area, and they have to hunt each other.
 
2013-10-08 01:14:18 PM  

RedPhoenix122: LittleSmitty: paygun: LittleSmitty: Since we have pretty much eliminated all the top predator species (wolves, mountain lions), we have to artificially manage the prey species by hunting, or we have over population problems, which leads to over browsing of food resources. This means they kinda die during the winter when they run out of food.

I have seen a number of Disney movies with all manner of talking animals and I'll have you know that there is nothing of this sort in any of them.  Are you some kind of tea party person?

Didn't Bambi watch his mother get shot in the first five minutes of the movie?

Was that before or after the evil hunters burned the forest down?


Good point. I haven't seen that one in over 30 years.
 
2013-10-08 01:14:48 PM  

FarkedOver: zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.

The take away is that the government can't be trusted to do anything correctly.  Take every single acre of federal land and sell it off and use it to pay down the debt.  Imagine when these lands are in the hands of private citizens or private companies, the good that will come of it, the bison that will be saved?


www.uncommondescent.com

Nailed him!
 
2013-10-08 01:15:05 PM  

paygun: Almost Everybody Poops: paygun: the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible

[citation needed]

Blocking roadside access to view Mount Rushmore.  Come on, that's ridiculous.


iowntheworld.com
 
2013-10-08 01:15:24 PM  
LittleSmitty:
Yeah, wildlife management is far more complicated than most folks realize. It's really cool your wife is involved in something like this. Someone mentioned here very recently that the first person to spot a wolf in Kentucky in nearly 50 years shot it on site. That's just dumb.

But it was charging right at him.... from about half mile away.
 
2013-10-08 01:15:33 PM  

pyrotek85: I know, that's my point. What I'm wondering is how many people would actually be caught doing so. I don't know how the shutdown will effect enforcement of those laws.


The shutdown isn't going to stop law enforcement, the point is to stop things that people want out of government in order to inflict political damage.
 
2013-10-08 01:15:48 PM  

paygun: ongbok: They are the ones that have engineered this shutdown with threats of primarying any Republican in the House that didn't vote for it.

Yes they did, and the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible, in order to inflict as much political damage on Republicans as possible.  It's not exactly a secret.

This is temper tantrum all around.


See this is what I meant before by the Tea Party is now regretting their decision in the most childish way possible, by blaming somebody else for their own actions. Of course a government shutdown is going to affect just about anything the federal government controls, you would have to be a plain idiot not to realize shutdown the government was going to affect national parks, government offices, national memorials and a host of other things. It is just the dumb as Tea Baggers didn't realize this when they were screaming to shut it down, and now that it is affecting what they do they have to blame somebody, and that somebody isn't going to be themselves. There isn't anybody trying to maximize the hurt for political points against the Republicans, anybody with half a brain should have realized that this was going to hurt in many different ways, and the longer it last the more hurt people are going to feel.
 
2013-10-08 01:15:51 PM  

topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.


The fat old white guy is mad.
 
2013-10-08 01:16:35 PM  

super_grass: FarkedOver: zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.

The take away is that the government can't be trusted to do anything correctly.  Take every single acre of federal land and sell it off and use it to pay down the debt.  Imagine when these lands are in the hands of private citizens or private companies, the good that will come of it, the bison that will be saved?

[www.uncommondescent.com image 333x500]

Nailed him!


Cool graphic bro.  You've never heard of jokes and hyberbole apparently.
 
2013-10-08 01:17:24 PM  

RedPhoenix122: paygun: Almost Everybody Poops: paygun: the word has come down from on high to make this hurt for as many people as possible

[citation needed]

Blocking roadside access to view Mount Rushmore.  Come on, that's ridiculous.

[iowntheworld.com image 570x456]


Yeah look that up on snopes.  Scroll to the bottom where they mention that uh yeah they did actually block access to roadside viewing spots.  I guess the government funding that keeps the wide spots in the road, well, wide, has been shut down.
 
2013-10-08 01:17:36 PM  

CynicalLA: topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.

The fat old white guy is mad.


Born in the late 70's.  Not fat.  Not a teabagger, not a hunter or a fisher, either.

Try again.
 
2013-10-08 01:18:21 PM  
cameroncrazy1984:Jesus Christ people, don't you understand your own history?


Does anyone really need to know history?

I mean, what's in the past, is in the past... There's no way any of it would happen again.
 
2013-10-08 01:18:29 PM  

topcon: CynicalLA: topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.

The fat old white guy is mad.

Born in the late 70's.  Not fat.  Not a teabagger, not a hunter or a fisher, either.

Try again.


Sure buddy.
 
2013-10-08 01:18:42 PM  

ongbok: There isn't anybody trying to maximize the hurt for political points against the Republicans


lol yeah sure
 
2013-10-08 01:18:46 PM  

Pick: If nobody is on duty, how can they stop you from hunting and fishing? They won't know you're there.


You should go do that.
 
2013-10-08 01:19:51 PM  

CynicalLA: topcon: CynicalLA: topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.

The fat old white guy is mad.

Born in the late 70's.  Not fat.  Not a teabagger, not a hunter or a fisher, either.

Try again.

Sure buddy.


My weird beliefs in supporting things like gay marriage and abortion, and the fact I'm areligious kind of hold me back from joining with the teabaggers.
 
2013-10-08 01:20:12 PM  

paygun: Yeah look that up on snopes.  Scroll to the bottom where they mention that uh yeah they did actually block access to roadside viewing spots.  I guess the government funding that keeps the wide spots in the road, well, wide, has been shut down.


Yeah, because the government doesn't maintain access roads.
 
2013-10-08 01:21:16 PM  

paygun: pyrotek85: I know, that's my point. What I'm wondering is how many people would actually be caught doing so. I don't know how the shutdown will effect enforcement of those laws.

The shutdown isn't going to stop law enforcement, the point is to stop things that people want out of government in order to inflict political damage.


We cannot allow people to go into these places because we cannot guarantee their safety.
 
2013-10-08 01:21:43 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Yeah, because the government doesn't maintain access roads.


And they were just surveyor's marks.
 
2013-10-08 01:22:12 PM  

FarkedOver: super_grass: FarkedOver: zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.

The take away is that the government can't be trusted to do anything correctly.  Take every single acre of federal land and sell it off and use it to pay down the debt.  Imagine when these lands are in the hands of private citizens or private companies, the good that will come of it, the bison that will be saved?

[www.uncommondescent.com image 333x500]

Nailed him!

Cool graphic bro.  You've never heard of jokes and hyberbole apparently.


One man's hyperbole is another man's troll.
 
2013-10-08 01:22:22 PM  
in states like Colorado or New Mexico, big game hunting licenses can take more than a decade to get

OK, that's pretty ridiculous.
 
2013-10-08 01:23:17 PM  

paygun: ongbok: There isn't anybody trying to maximize the hurt for political points against the Republicans

lol yeah sure


You're right, it's a giant conspiracy years in the making, to secretly make national parks rely on federal dollars in order to spite the Republicans when they want to shut down the government.  Personally, I blame Ulysses S. Grant.
 
2013-10-08 01:24:45 PM  

Saiga410: We cannot allow people to go into these places because we cannot guarantee their safety.


Right because employees responsible for imminent threats to human life or property will not continue to work, as determined by their agency.
 
2013-10-08 01:25:16 PM  

Triple Oak: Take away golf. I'd love to see the backlash from that.


If memory serves, The Lord Governor Voldemort of Florida entertained a proposal to allow golf courses in state parks.

/Now it appears he's working on building casinos in them.
 
2013-10-08 01:26:01 PM  

ongbok: timswar: What, did they think closing down the federal government wouldn't affect everybody in one way or another?

I would imagine more than a few members of congress had hunting trips planned in the next month or so. Oh well. They can count themselves lucky not to be starving.

Because these people and the people that were applauding the shutdown didn't think that the federal government had any bearing on their lives accept for making their lives miserable. Now that they found out that their childish beliefs are wrong, and shutting down the government has a direct affect on things they need and things they like to do they are regretting their own decisions in the most childish way possible, by putting the blame on somebody else.


That's the thing. The stupid farking conservatives think government doesn't do anything. So when they go out of their way to shut it down, they're horrified to find that some things they don't hate are no longer available to them. They then reason that they're only closed because Obummer is a dick and personally decided to close something to spite them since their narrative (government bad, really ineffective and doesn't do anything) cannot be wrong.

They are actually that stupid.

The people that vote for them are also that stupid.
 
2013-10-08 01:26:11 PM  

dantheman195: I don't understand why the federal government would have control over this. I thought hunting/fishing licenses were issued at the state level.


Federal land, Federally maintained waterways, including docks and launches. Sure you may have a license, but you can't hunt or fish on land owned or maintained by the Federal government.

Sorry, but SUCK IT!
 
2013-10-08 01:26:14 PM  

RedPhoenix122: You're right, it's a giant conspiracy years in the making, to secretly make national parks rely on federal dollars in order to spite the Republicans when they want to shut down the government.  Personally, I blame Ulysses S. Grant.


It has to be something like that, because otherwise that would mean that Barak Obama is really the president and that's just crazy talk.
 
2013-10-08 01:26:59 PM  

zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?


Illegally.
 
2013-10-08 01:27:15 PM  
ITT: another conservative going to pieces after less that a week without 17% of the federal government.
 
2013-10-08 01:27:41 PM  

paygun: Saiga410: We cannot allow people to go into these places because we cannot guarantee their safety.

Right because employees responsible for imminent threats to human life or property will not continue to work, as determined by their agency.


Yeah there is no possible way that they would have to reduce staffing also so that those people are working skeleton crews that would leave them unable to effectively patrol the park and respond to emergencies while it is open to the public.
 
2013-10-08 01:29:56 PM  

topcon: CynicalLA: topcon: CynicalLA: topcon: cameroncrazy1984: topcon: Except for the fact the article doesn't mention teabaggers whatsoever, therefore making the headline false.

Does it have to mention teabaggers in order for us to do so? I didn't know that was a rule.

Keep playing stupid, Gen-Yer.

The fat old white guy is mad.

Born in the late 70's.  Not fat.  Not a teabagger, not a hunter or a fisher, either.

Try again.

Sure buddy.

My weird beliefs in supporting things like gay marriage and abortion, and the fact I'm areligious kind of hold me back from joining with the teabaggers.


That I can respect.  It's just really obvious that this will piss off the people that are supporting the shutdown.  And a lot of those are teabaggers.
 
2013-10-08 01:31:48 PM  

paygun: RedPhoenix122: You're right, it's a giant conspiracy years in the making, to secretly make national parks rely on federal dollars in order to spite the Republicans when they want to shut down the government.  Personally, I blame Ulysses S. Grant.

It has to be something like that, because otherwise that would mean that Barak Obama is really the president and that's just crazy talk.


Have you made love to your guns yet today?  It might be time, you sound a little grumpy.
 
2013-10-08 01:32:08 PM  

Saiga410: LittleSmitty:
Yeah, wildlife management is far more complicated than most folks realize. It's really cool your wife is involved in something like this. Someone mentioned here very recently that the first person to spot a wolf in Kentucky in nearly 50 years shot it on site. That's just dumb.

But it was charging right at him.... from about half mile away.


They always do. Ask Gerald Ford
 
2013-10-08 01:32:26 PM  

ongbok: Yeah there is no possible way that they would have to reduce staffing also so that those people are working skeleton crews that would leave them unable to effectively patrol the park and respond to emergencies while it is open to the public.


Google this sentence and you'll see it in the published shutdown plans of one agency after another.  It's not something I just made up:

Employees responsible for imminent threats to human life or property will continue to work, as determined by their agency.
 
2013-10-08 01:33:12 PM  

dr_blasto: That's the thing. The stupid farking conservatives think government doesn't do anything. So when they go out of their way to shut it down, they're horrified to find that some things they don't hate are no longer available to them. They then reason that they're only closed because Obummer is a dick and personally decided to close something to spite them since their narrative (government bad, really ineffective and doesn't do anything) cannot be wrong.

They are actually that stupid.

The people that vote for them are also that stupid.


That's ultimately the thing, and why I continually try to point out that calling the Teabaggers (and "libertarians" in general) "anarchists" or "anti-government" or whatever is not at all correct and is, in fact, playing right into their (and their owners') hands. They don't hate government, at all. They love government. They love big-ass farking government. There is no government big-ass enough for them when it comes to the functions of state violence, or restricting civil rights for whoever they've been told not to like, or filling the pockets of their wealthy lords.

What they hate is any function of governance that prevents them (and, again, more properly their owners) from complete freedom to plunder everything they can from the rest of the country: Wealth, resources, even basic human dignity. They want it all. When they say they "hate government", what they mean is they hate democracy. They hate not being the rulers. They hate that the entire country is not a collection of patroonships owned by right-wing ubermenschen.

They're no more anti-government than any other totalitarian fascist group over the last century or so. They just hate that anyone they've decided isn't part of their tribe has any freedom whatsoever, and will do anything they can to destroy the structures that protect those freedoms.
 
2013-10-08 01:33:57 PM  

CynicalLA: Have you made love to your guns yet today?  It might be time, you sound a little grumpy.


I love them so much I gave them names.  I have a rifle named "Ad Hominem" and a revolver named "I've got nothing."
 
2013-10-08 01:36:02 PM  

paygun: CynicalLA: Have you made love to your guns yet today?  It might be time, you sound a little grumpy.

I love them so much I gave them names.  I have a rifle named "Ad Hominem" and a revolver named "I've got nothing."


Every thing you post is somehow related back to your gun fetish.  It's a fact.
 
2013-10-08 01:38:09 PM  
Come on up to Canada! We'll need the extra tourist dollars when the default causes the greenback to tank and the loonie to soar.
 
2013-10-08 01:38:48 PM  

CynicalLA: Every thing you post is somehow related back to your gun fetish.  It's a fact.


Yeah like all those posts in this thread, before you brought up guns.  Obviously it's me.
 
2013-10-08 01:38:53 PM  

The Numbers: Is it me, or does this thread feature a lot more people imagining what they think the Teabaggers believe than it does evidence of actual reactions?

 Actual Reaction:


img.fark.net
 
2013-10-08 01:41:28 PM  

paygun: ongbok: Yeah there is no possible way that they would have to reduce staffing also so that those people are working skeleton crews that would leave them unable to effectively patrol the park and respond to emergencies while it is open to the public.

Google this sentence and you'll see it in the published shutdown plans of one agency after another.  It's not something I just made up:

Employees responsible for imminent threats to human life or property will continue to work, as determined by their agency.


And there is know way that those staff are also supported by other people who won't be working, thus making it unsafe to operate the park in those conditions. There is a whole support system that goes with running a park like that safely. All of them are needed. Just leaving one part of the system in place and trying to continue to run the park not lonly makes it dangerous for vistors but also dangerous for those employees. How hard is it to understand that?
 
2013-10-08 01:44:04 PM  

ongbok: How hard is it to understand that?


How many park rangers do you think they used to staff that wide spot in the road with?

Anyway, I see your point, that Barak Obama is the benevolent giver of life, and therefore he would never play politics with this.  I just don't believe it.
 
2013-10-08 01:44:17 PM  

Citris: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

With extreme anxiety, a musket, a hatchet and a good knife.  You know this comfortable thing we call civilization? Thank Government for that, otherwise we would still have to watch our backs when roaming away from our strongholds and be wary of bandits and indigenous folk who don't want us on their sacred lands.

This whole Park closure thing can be settled right now.  Want to go in? Fine, there is no ranger service or rescue op, if you get lost, mauled by wildlife or robbed by desperate homeless folk you cannot hold the US government or any organization liable.  Here sign this waiver and best of luck to ya!


Most of the Ranger's aren't on the job - but SAR is still being carried out. Acadia NP had to rescue some idiot's ass the other day who decided to jump the barricades. Without pay. And apparently without backpay.

/former NPS Ranger
 
2013-10-08 01:45:06 PM  
Gee, with the Federal Communications Commission shut down, why have they not ordered all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems shut down? Same darn thing..........
 
2013-10-08 01:45:15 PM  
Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.
 
2013-10-08 01:46:05 PM  

Pick: Gee, with the Federal Communications Commission shut down, why have they not ordered all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems shut down? Same darn thing..........


I bet they'll have a hard time getting a license renewed.
 
2013-10-08 01:46:44 PM  

Richard Flaccid: Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.


Liberals also like Bow hunting.
 
2013-10-08 01:48:03 PM  

zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.


Nice smear.  Also, I like how you insist on calling them bison, even though buffalo is accepted vernacular.  Most people around my home town would consider you an overeducated twat trying to use $20 words.  Of course, several of them now raise buffalo, so what do they know.

I'd like to point out that the shooting of buffalo was endorsed by private entities.  The rail roads considered the herds to be a threat to their rail lines.  Private ranchers wanted the buffalo gone because they were a threat to their more docile herds of cattle.  You know, the kind of private citizens with the power and influence to make the government do as they wished.

/but if rich people make government do it, it must be ok.
 
2013-10-08 01:48:36 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Richard Flaccid: Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

Liberals also like Bow hunting.


Add fly fishing (catch and release, of course)
 
2013-10-08 01:50:14 PM  

monoski: RedPhoenix122: Richard Flaccid: Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

Liberals also like Bow hunting.

Add fly fishing (catch and release, of course)


I tried hunting catch and release, but once I pulled the bullet out, the deer stayed there.
 
2013-10-08 01:55:12 PM  

Pick: Gee, with the Federal Communications Commission shut down, why have they not ordered all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems shut down? Same darn thing..........


Regulating something is not the same as owning it. National parks, owned by the feds. TV and Radio stations, not owned by the feds.  So, not the same darn thing.
 
2013-10-08 01:58:52 PM  

Richard Flaccid: Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.


How much does a lawyer willing to apologize for getting his face in the way of your shot cost?
 
2013-10-08 01:59:33 PM  

RedPhoenix122: monoski: RedPhoenix122: Richard Flaccid: Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

Liberals also like Bow hunting.

Add fly fishing (catch and release, of course)

I tried hunting catch and release, but once I pulled the bullet out, the deer stayed there.


Can someone please explain to me why I laughed at this?
 
2013-10-08 02:00:45 PM  

Pick: Gee, with the Federal Communications Commission shut down, why have they not ordered all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems shut down? Same darn thing..........


Talking-point-like regurgitation detected.
 
2013-10-08 02:01:09 PM  

Richard Flaccid: Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.


What expensive equipment is required to hunt grouse?
 
2013-10-08 02:03:39 PM  

pyrotek85: DeaH: fuhfuhfuh: The only way anyone will understand the gravity of the situation is if everyone bleeds.

But the deer won't be bleeding if hunters can't get licenses.

/Sadly, I know a few "hunters" who think the shutdown just means the laws about hunting are nullified.

I was wondering about that actually. The laws aren't being nullified, but I wonder if the manpower to enforce them will be effected at all. Just because they're not issuing licenses doesn't mean people won't be hunting or fishing.


Yes, I thought about poaching, too. That usually means more injured animals who do a lot of damage before they die. Lack of enforcement always seems to empower the idiots who like to shoot at things but don't know how to hunt.
 
2013-10-08 02:07:19 PM  
I get my fishing license from Academy.  Is Academy going to be shut down?

/I like Academy
 
2013-10-08 02:08:22 PM  

BMulligan: Richard Flaccid: Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

What expensive equipment is required to hunt grouse?


Laser sighted slingshots?
 
2013-10-08 02:09:04 PM  

Pick: Gee, with the Federal Communications Commission shut down, why have they not ordered all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems shut down? Same darn thing..........


Exactly! Because as we all know, the Federal government (through the FCC) owns, operates and maintains all TV, Radio, and commercial 2 way radio systems  in exactly the same way that they own, operate, and maintain (through the DOI) the 329  Federally owned wilderness preserves that are being discussed in this article.

See folks, this is exactly what is wrong with the teabaggers and know-nothings that comprise a huge chunk of the Republican Party -- a view of government that is so goddamned simpleminded that they actually think that the FFC's regulation of privately owned broadcasting  systems the "same damn thing" as the DOI's  ownership, operation, and maintenance of federal wilderness preserves.
 
2013-10-08 02:11:16 PM  

BMulligan: Richard Flaccid: Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

What expensive equipment is required to hunt grouse?


Body armor. But only if you go with a Republican.
 
2013-10-08 02:12:31 PM  

theknuckler_33: BMulligan: Richard Flaccid: Hey, I know a few liberal men that hunt and fish.  Liberals really like fly fishing and grouse hunting.  Both of those usually require a lot of expensive equipment and fancy little outfits.

What expensive equipment is required to hunt grouse?

Laser sighted slingshots?


Is it wrong of me to want one of those?
 
2013-10-08 02:19:59 PM  

lazfx: topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.

Shut up biatch

racist.
 
2013-10-08 02:24:20 PM  

chuggernaught: zipdog: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, when the government wasn't involved in hunting and fishing, we totally didn't almost wipe out the Buffalo.

Funny thing is that the US government actively promoted the hunting of bison (I'm assuming that's what you meant by Buffalo) to the point that private citizens were begging the government to stop those policies. It is private ownership of bison on private land that has enabled the populations to recover.

Nice smear.  Also, I like how you insist on calling them bison, even though buffalo is accepted vernacular.  Most people around my home town would consider you an overeducated twat trying to use $20 words.  Of course, several of them now raise buffalo, so what do they know.



Yeah, education's for wusses!

/Also, the guy improperly capitalized Buffalo, dipshiat.
 
2013-10-08 02:29:39 PM  
Hah, I was JUST talking to my parents about this very thing this weekend.  "Wait until it starts affecting hunting licenses.  Then we'll see the derpers stop trying to claim the shutdown is a good thing."  I'm honestly surprised Fox News hasn't come up with some way to spin this as being good for hunters or some similar bullcrap.

cameroncrazy1984: zipdog: How the hell did people shoot deer and catch fish before the government was around?

Almost to extinction.

Jesus Christ people, don't you understand your own history?


The kind of person who thinks the shutdown is a good thing doesn't understand that the Earth orbits around the Sun.
 
2013-10-08 02:36:49 PM  

meat0918: coeyagi: Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?

Yes.

[www.seatcoversunlimited.com image 700x792]


If they are that intent on killing something, why don't we send them to war first, and keep the healthy ones for later attacks?


Don't most species let their retarded and disabled die first to protect the species?
 
2013-10-08 02:58:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I think my favorite part of the shutdown so far has been Michele Bachmann saying she got exactly what she wanted, and then like a day later she's yelling at a park ranger asking why people can't get into a national monument.


I almost get the feeling that they thought the shutdown meant they were kicking the president out of the whitehouse and that's it.

No one ever accused them of being bright.
 
2013-10-08 03:52:04 PM  
Tea Party: "SHUT DOWN ALL THE THINGS!"
Government: "Ok" *shuts down things*
Tea Party: "Wait, I didn't mean those things, I like those things!"
Government: *shrugs* "Shoulda thought about that first I guess."
 
2013-10-08 03:54:48 PM  

BMulligan: FTFA:  call on Congress to end the shutdown, which has closed 329 federal wildlife refuges to hunting

This is obviously some new definition of the word "refuge" with which I was not previously acquainted. "Welcome to our sanctuary here, cute little bunny and majestic elk. Make yourself at home in this place of refuge. Comfy? Good."

BLAM!!!


Sounds familiar.
thegameofgaming.files.wordpress.com
/They just need to stick out their tongues.
//hot
 
2013-10-08 07:30:14 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: But Teapartiers live off  that venison!

Fartbongo bin Muslin al Hadj is starvin mah people!

/there's always roadkill for supper


Deer is clearly one of the forbidden things that funny book the bible tells you not to eat. Like catfish, crawdads, pork, rabbit and stoat.
 
2013-10-08 10:59:31 PM  

topcon: Yeah, only teabaggers hunt and fish.

Nowhere in that article mentions teabaggers.

I just saw about 20 black guys fishing this past weekend.  I'm sure they're teabaggers, too.  Stupidassed troll headlines and the retards who greenlight them.


What are you saying? 20 black guys can't be teapartiers?

Do fat white people have a monopoly on the tea party? Is that what you are saying?

Sounds kinda racist... Just sayin
 
2013-10-08 11:31:03 PM  

Wyalt Derp: This just goes to prove that the federal goverment is too big and intrusive in are lives - they shouldn't be involved in hunting and fisting in the first place.


I love you man. Hunting and *fisting* . Isn't that kinda like catfish tickling.
 
2013-10-09 01:27:48 AM  
 Do they make camoflauged hoverrounds?

No but the user can wear a camo muumuu.  It's like a poncho but think rainy baseball diamond...yeah about that size.


Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho?
 
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