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(Colorado Springs Gazette)   Mother of the year switches her kid from chemotherapy to weed until the court harshes her mellow   (gazette.com) divider line 60
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2013-10-08 12:50:24 PM
repeat?  or is this happening more and more?
/dnrtfa
 
2013-10-08 12:52:20 PM
Watching Weeds. Just started season 3... getting a kick.
 
2013-10-08 12:52:42 PM
So is weed the new Robitussin or something?
 
2013-10-08 12:53:30 PM
So she is repeating his chemo treatment?
 
2013-10-08 12:54:03 PM
FARK YOU

i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-08 12:56:22 PM
i thought the idea was that you treat the cancer with chemo, then treat the side effects of the chemo with pot. This woman decided to cut out the middle step?
 
2013-10-08 12:56:48 PM
Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?
 
2013-10-08 12:57:12 PM
Your website sucks.
 
2013-10-08 12:58:26 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Watching Weeds. Just started season 3... getting a kick.


I can tell you that it went downhill until I was glad that they cancelled it....

Started out good though.
 
2013-10-08 12:58:34 PM

Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?


But what if we disagree with #3?
 
2013-10-08 12:58:50 PM
Irradiated Kush would be an AWESOME band name.
 
2013-10-08 01:00:46 PM
d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net
 
2013-10-08 01:03:49 PM
Marijuana is wonderful for some things, and if it's your cancer, what the hell, smoke until you die.    If the doc gives you a couple of months to live, what's the point of being miserable because of chemo, only to die like a week later than you would have.
It's different if you are making medical decisions for somebody else.  Then you owe it to them to choose the most effective treatment possible.
 
2013-10-08 01:06:41 PM

washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?


wat?
 
2013-10-08 01:09:31 PM
Let her do the Mary Jane thing; Darwin will take care of it.

/ kids with cancer is pretty horrible; but, I'm not too sympathetic if she decides to kill her own kid
 
2013-10-08 01:11:31 PM

Jim_Callahan: 2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.


[Citation Needed] since the government refuses to allow strenuous medical testing.
 
2013-10-08 01:11:48 PM

washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?


To bad you are still wrong.
 
2013-10-08 01:13:09 PM

washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?


If "But what if we disagree with #3?", then...
wakeupidiots.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-10-08 01:13:58 PM

washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?


Then you're a f*ckwit, and your opinion on everything can be safely discarded.
 
2013-10-08 01:16:23 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Jim_Callahan: 2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

[Citation Needed] since the government refuses to allow strenuous medical testing.


While human trials should be authorized, in the current absence of medical knowledge in this area, cutting off chemo in favor of weed remains an idiotic decision and one that will rightly get the authorities involved.
 
2013-10-08 01:17:14 PM

SpdrJay: Jim from Saint Paul: Watching Weeds. Just started season 3... getting a kick.

I can tell you that it went downhill until I was glad that they cancelled it....

Started out good though.


Yeah, not sure how I feel about what is obviously the "U-Turn Season" yet.

/no spoilers
 
2013-10-08 01:18:29 PM
The article states that cancer was still in remission with cannabis treatment, but without the harmful side effects of chemo. In other words, it was working. Unless the cancer went out if remission, I don't see how she was harming her child.
 
2013-10-08 01:22:33 PM

styckx: FARK YOU

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Seconded.

I refuse to stoop to such low levels in order to read a farking article. Sense I don't have any information to work with, I'll just post pictures of what I think subby might look like:

ninunina.com
2-akamai.tapcdn.com i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-08 01:23:14 PM
Chemo isn't the sort of magical cancer cure you guys seem to think it is. It fails so often people should be allowed to decide against it. There's also a quality of life debate which could be brought up. With or without chemo people still die, and chemo just makes them absolutely miserable for their last days.
 
2013-10-08 01:23:41 PM

washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?



msi0.twimg.comling
 
2013-10-08 01:24:20 PM
In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.  No such claim can be made for weed.  End of story.

/just started chemo this week, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
//so far, so good
///please send pot
 
2013-10-08 01:24:55 PM
And the Colorado, Rocky Mountain hiiiiIIIiiigh.

I seen them tumors shrink before my eyes.

I know he'd be a sicker man if he never smoked a blunt, oh myyyyyyy.

Rocky mountain high (high)
No more chemo.
Rocky Mountain high (high)
No more chemo.
[fade out]
 
2013-10-08 01:26:03 PM
<i>"You have to understand that parents have rights with regard to their children, but that children also have rights," McCown said. "Children aren't property of parents - parents can't do as they wish with regard to a child. </i>

Bull farking shiat.  Either children are the property of the state or the parents.  Children have no rights or say in either scenario.  This whole children's rights thing is sheer nonsense.  If you really want to involve child's so-called "rights", ask them if they want to be in foster care or with their parents, or ask them if they'd like to throw up 2 times a day or 40 times.
 
2013-10-08 01:26:09 PM

The Madd Mann: So is weed the new Robitussin or something?


yup.  Totally magical stuff.  Cures everything, not addictive, no downsides.  It's the duct tape wrapped, 'tussin dipped swiss army knife of medicine.
 
2013-10-08 01:27:02 PM

dabbletech: In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.


They always fail to mention 5 year survival rates. But since you're undergoing 'treatment' yourself i won't interfere with any optimism you have going on.
 
2013-10-08 01:27:35 PM
Ultafark the weed was working better.
 
2013-10-08 01:28:17 PM

dabbletech: In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.  No such claim can be made for weed.  End of story.

/just started chemo this week, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
//so far, so good
///please send pot


Hope things go well for you :)

And I hope you get pot.
 
2013-10-08 01:29:14 PM

J. Frank Parnell: dabbletech: In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.

They always fail to mention 5 year survival rates. But since you're undergoing 'treatment' yourself i won't interfere with any optimism you have going on.


That is the five year rate.
 
2013-10-08 01:29:46 PM
To those that didn't read the article:

Kiddo has been through chemo, and his cancer is currently in remission. However, the hospital recommend he keep on getting chemo for another 2 years to make sure that it doesn't return.

Mom used pot during the chemo to prevent the side effects and is arguing that he doesn't need more chemo because he's in remission and the pot will help prevent tumors.

Chemo is nasty business so I can see why you would want to stop. Is it normal to keep going back for chemo after you're in remission?
 
2013-10-08 01:33:43 PM
www.esreality.compedobearapproved: washingtonman: Jim_Callahan: Didn't we just have this thread like a couple days ago?

Here, I'll save everyone another 600 damn posts:

1. Yes, THC has demonstrated some anti-tumor effects in other mammals.

2. No, those effects are not on par with bloody chemotherapy, and there is no possible way it's a valid  substitute.

3. Intentionally depriving a child of needed medical care is child abuse (as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons").

There, can we not have the thread now?

But what if we disagree with #3?


m[si0.twimg.com image 320x318]ling
 
2013-10-08 01:33:46 PM

hardinparamedic: That is the five year rate.


I don't think so.
 
2013-10-08 01:37:47 PM

dabbletech: /just started chemo this week, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
//so far, so good
///please send pot


Best of luck.  Chemo is tough.  And if I could email a joint to you, or to my other email account for that matter, I would.
 
2013-10-08 01:40:23 PM

J. Frank Parnell: dabbletech: In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.

They always fail to mention 5 year survival rates. But since you're undergoing 'treatment' yourself i won't interfere with any optimism you have going on.


No prob.  Was diagnosed stage 4 over six years ago.  Shouldn't be alive today.  Five years would be an incredible gift!!
 
2013-10-08 01:41:38 PM

fireclown: The Madd Mann: So is weed the new Robitussin or something?

yup.  Totally magical stuff.  Cures everything, not addictive, no downsides.  It's the duct tape wrapped, 'tussin dipped swiss army knife of medicine.


This is the BIGGEST problem with medical MJ. Hippies are touting it as a non-addictive cure-all instead of focusing on cancer, AIDS, inflammation, and pain management.

If they focused on pain management and the super-addictive qualities of Oxycotin I believe the community could make huge strides in medical legalization.

/Aunt is addicted to Oxy after a 50lb box fell on her head
//Now she has to go to methadone treatment and suffer with the pain
 
2013-10-08 01:42:47 PM

fireclown: dabbletech: /just started chemo this week, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
//so far, so good
///please send pot

Best of luck.  Chemo is tough.  And if I could email a joint to you, or to my other email account for that matter, I would.



megarian: dabbletech: In a statement, the hospital said an oncology group featured at its hospital boasts a survival rate or more than 90 percent in research trials treating Landon's type of leukemia.  No such claim can be made for weed.  End of story.

/just started chemo this week, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
//so far, so good
///please send pot

Hope things go well for you :)

And I hope you get pot.



Thanks.  I appreciate your support.

Good Farkers!
 
2013-10-08 01:47:01 PM
I find the laws around medical treatment of children to be ridiculously hypocritical....

First - what they're doing is giving doctor's the ability to LEGALLY REQUIRE any service or treatment they deem appropriate.  Even if you had a 100% tax-supported medical system, *clearly* that is a conflict of interest.

Second - I really don't see why there should be any legal distinction between preventative care and curative treatment.  In the US you can smoke around your children, overfeed them into obesity, decline immunizations, avoid routine medical/dental check-ups and it's all fine.  But if the stop the 'recommended' post-remission cancer treatment, it is a crime.

Third -  if you look at reasonable numbers around the treatment....it hardly seems to enter into the area of 'Oh yes, that would be criminally negligent'.  I think you could make a strong argument for some immunizations, the risk is astronomically low compared to the reward.  But the Doctor prescribed treatment was *three years* of the kid be violently ill, all the time.....that is a *big* cost.  And the reward?  Not so good.  With the treatment, it looks like a 50% chance of the kid relapsing.  I can't find any numbers on the odds of relapsing without the additional treatment, but it has to be less than 100%.  Also, if you are like me, you might think that 'remission' is a good thing, and it sorta is...but it doesn't mean you are safe or healthy.  Maybe it's because of the continuing treatment but
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1500128
Fifty five deaths between January, 1982 to September, 1989 in children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) were evaluated to determine the cause of mortality. Fifty cases died during remission

This doesn't seem like a trivial, clear-cut case of, 'Oh the kid will die without treatment and the kid will live with it....why is the Mom giving the kid weed?'

To be 100% honest, I'd be more understanding of this Mother's choice than any of the countless fat Mom's feeding their fat children unhealthy food.  That seems far more neglectful and has a much higher probability of causing harm.
 
2013-10-08 01:48:12 PM
That kid looks like he just took a big rip off the bong...also like a young version of Kojak.
 
2013-10-08 01:48:16 PM
I thought the point of "medical marijuana" was to counter the affects of chemo, not replace it.
 
2013-10-08 01:51:27 PM

shortymac: Aunt is addicted to Oxy after a 50lb box fell on her head


What the hell was she doing with 50 lbs. of Oxy?
 
2013-10-08 01:51:31 PM
It would appear all the people responding so negatively to my post have never been through, or watched a loved one go through a serious illness with a treatment or procedure that can have devastating affects.

Even if you have, and made a decision on how to approach it you have no right to judge another decision. It is not your life.
 
2013-10-08 01:52:59 PM

shortymac: /Aunt is addicted to Oxy after a 50lb box fell on her head


That's a LOT of oxy.   She should have just sold it.
 
2013-10-08 01:54:25 PM

washingtonman: It is not your life.


That's not what Bon Jovi said.
 
2013-10-08 02:09:35 PM

washingtonman: It would appear all the people responding so negatively to my post have never been through, or watched a loved one go through a serious illness with a treatment or procedure that can have devastating affects.

Even if you have, and made a decision on how to approach it you have no right to judge another decision. It is not your life.


Did you intentionally ignore the qualifier of "as in cases of religious people denying their kids organ transplants/blood transfusions for "religious reasons" " of are you just blind?
 
2013-10-08 02:28:21 PM

styckx: FARK YOU

[i.imgur.com image 636x493]


My question was something like "What is the most likely bad thing to happen if Obamacare doesn't work out."

I opted for a fill in answer of "Everyone dies.  Literally everyone."
 
2013-10-08 02:55:19 PM
So when the kid dies because they can't have their weed, she gets to sue right?
 
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