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(NYPost)   So it turns out that the undercover police officer that allegedly stood by as the New York bike gang beat their victim was actually helping. Fark: With the beating   (nypost.com) divider line 50
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2013-10-08 10:27:56 AM
7 votes:
Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
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I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."


*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.
2013-10-08 02:00:10 PM
6 votes:

Speef: Those motokiddies were behaving like absolute morons. None of them should be allowed back on the road.

That SUV driver should be in prison, though.  Pity he got off with a few bruises and slashes. If there was a cop there, he should have been shooting the driver as soon as he decided to use deadly force against a mass of helpless riders on the motorway.

Everyone involved sucks ass.


Yeah! How dare that jerk try and leave when the bikers just wanted to have a friendly chat with knives and helmets.
2013-10-08 02:31:49 PM
5 votes:
The only thing the SUV driver did wrong was at the end when he met up with stopped traffic.  When the attackers closed him in from behind, the correct and just move to protect his family was to throw it into reverse and ram the scum behind him. If necessary, put it back into drive and run over some more.  Repeat as necessary untill the filth is just a pink goo.

Rinse the road off with a hose.  No funerals necessary or warranted.
2013-10-08 01:10:01 PM
5 votes:
This explains why the NYPD didn't want to actually police these gangs.
2013-10-08 02:11:06 PM
4 votes:

Speef: Those motokiddies were behaving like absolute morons. None of them should be allowed back on the road.

That SUV driver should be in prison, though.  Pity he got off with a few bruises and slashes. If there was a cop there, he should have been shooting the driver as soon as he decided to use deadly force against a mass of helpless riders on the motorway.

Everyone involved sucks ass.


They boxed the SUV in with bikes/people.  That was their first mistake.  You don't get to imprison other people.  You are not the law enforcement (well some were...but that's another story).  You don't get to slash someone's tires and act aggressively with 20 or 30 or 40 times more people than the car you're surrounding.  If a group of thugs are attacking your vehicle, you have every right to escape the situation.  Parking your bike in front of an SUV on the freeway doesn't give you a free pass to vandalize and become violent with the vehicle/occupants.  The bikers learned a valuable lesson about cause and effect, and physics that day.  There's consequences for your actions, hopefully the bikers learned something.

Not sure if you're trolling or stupid, but it doesn't matter because some people (a very small minority) still believe what you said.
2013-10-08 02:08:14 PM
4 votes:

BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.


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Also, the bikie violated human biology. You have to give a human at least two seconds to see what is happening and to react to it... and you can't be certain how they'll react. Count how many seconds there were between his starting to slow down and contact. Much less than two seconds -- the driver's foot may have been on its way to the brake pedal, but physics rules.
2013-10-08 03:35:07 PM
3 votes:

Russ1642: rumpelstiltskin: That's the curse of being a professional. You see some hack doing something wrong, and you want to help him do it right. It's instinct. So you see a biker kicking some poor schmuck in the ribs, and you just react, You tell him, "No, no. The kidneys are below the ribs. Sure, the ribs can make a nice crunchy target for your steel toed boots, but trust me, you want the kidneys."
And then the newspaper jumps all over you, just for sharing your expertise with a novice.

The kidneys aren't below the ribs.


download.videohelp.com

Except when they kind of, sort of, are. They hang below the floating ribs.

This is why you want to kick/hit low with an upward motion. It gets up in there and mashes shiat.
2013-10-08 03:00:47 PM
3 votes:

Hoblit: "...prosecutors declined to press ahead with the case against another biker, Allen Edwards, 43, of Queens, who allegedly punched the driver's side rear window of Lien's SUV before Lien was pummeled. " - TFA

WHY NOT? There is enough evidence to make a charge.

""Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes." " - Manhattan district attorney's Trials Division, Karen Friedman Agnifilo

So... even with enough evidence to charge someone with a lower crime, they get away with it because someone around them was committing a larger crime?

How...what? I don't even...


Translated: "We want to be able to wait, so we can force the low-level offenders to cut deals and testify against the worse offenders"
2013-10-08 02:58:46 PM
3 votes:
Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.

"I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."


It's like this asshole doesn't realize that we've all watched the video.  It's clear that he intentionally got in front of the SUV.  You can see him watching the SUV over his right shoulder as he pulls in front of it, then over his left shoulder as he hits the brakes, and you can see his brake lights.

Speef: Those motokiddies were behaving like absolute morons. None of them should be allowed back on the road.

That SUV driver should be in prison, though. Pity he got off with a few bruises and slashes.


The thug who got run over after trying to block this guy from leaving is a career criminal who did not have a drivers license.  The thug who was using his helmet to bust out the window is a career criminal who did not have a drivers license.  Legally, they were already "not allowed on the road", but being thugs, they don't really care about the law.

The SUV driver had every right to try and escape when he was attacked, and the asshole who got run over for blocking him in deserved it, as did most of the bikers involved.  You're such an asshole that I'll just assume you deserve to get run over, too.
2013-10-08 02:28:41 PM
3 votes:

WelldeadLink: BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.

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Also, the bikie violated human biology. You have to give a human at least two seconds to see what is happening and to react to it... and you can't be certain how they'll react. Count how many seconds there were between his starting to slow down and contact. Much less than two seconds -- the driver's foot may have been on its way to the brake pedal, but physics rules.


Not to mention the frames before it where the bikie was along side him in his lane and went out of his way to scoot in front of him at very close range.
2013-10-08 02:11:13 PM
3 votes:
Why do they keep being referred to as "undercover" when they actually mean "off-duty"?
2013-10-08 02:00:07 PM
3 votes:
I'll go make some popcorn while we wait for the tards to show up to defend those poor, defenseless bikers.
2013-10-08 01:17:41 PM
3 votes:
Aw, shucks!  And just when blacks, motorcycle rallies, and the NYPD were enjoying such unbridled appreciation in society, too.
2013-10-08 12:30:03 PM
3 votes:
Too bad the motorist didn't kill a few of them.
2013-10-08 04:17:26 PM
2 votes:

Lyonid: listernine: Cheater71: This is why i hated The Shield, because in real life, this is what Vic Mackey looks like. Glad to see he might lose his job. I hope he winds up in jail.

Jail? Hahaha. Good one. Don't you usually have to have audio, video, a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew all agree that the cop was breaking the law?

That depends... Did they walk into a bar?


No, but its a given the cop will walk.
2013-10-08 04:11:11 PM
2 votes:

Cheater71: This is why i hated The Shield, because in real life, this is what Vic Mackey looks like. Glad to see he might lose his job. I hope he winds up in jail.


Jail? Hahaha. Good one. Don't you usually have to have audio, video, a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew all agree that the cop was breaking the law?
2013-10-08 02:58:51 PM
2 votes:
"...prosecutors declined to press ahead with the case against another biker, Allen Edwards, 43, of Queens, who allegedly punched the driver's side rear window of Lien's SUV before Lien was pummeled. " - TFA

WHY NOT? There is enough evidence to make a charge.

""Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes." " - Manhattan district attorney's Trials Division, Karen Friedman Agnifilo

So... even with enough evidence to charge someone with a lower crime, they get away with it because someone around them was committing a larger crime?

How...what? I don't even...
2013-10-08 02:05:19 PM
2 votes:

Speef: That SUV driver should be in prison, though.


for what?
2013-10-08 02:04:27 PM
2 votes:
FTFA:  prosecutors declined to press ahead with the case against another biker, Allen Edwards, 43, of Queens, who allegedly punched the driver's side rear window of Lien's SUV before Lien was pummeled.

Good to know that NYC allows you to break the windows out of other motorists vehicles.  Going to use this as a precedent if I ever visit and someone looks at me funny.
2013-10-08 02:02:09 PM
2 votes:

hobnail: I'll go make some popcorn while we wait for the tards to show up to defend those poor, defenseless bikers.


Too late, the white knights are already here.
2013-10-08 01:00:51 PM
2 votes:
Farking Pigs.
2013-10-08 12:29:39 PM
2 votes:
You can see in the article how these nice bikers only lovingly pulled him from the drivers' seat and did not in any way attack the child or mother...especially not by attacking the rear window...where driver's are known to be.
2013-10-08 10:35:53 AM
2 votes:

BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.


Sadly even with video that clear there were peopel takingt he side of the bikers.
2013-10-08 10:18:23 AM
2 votes:
That's the curse of being a professional. You see some hack doing something wrong, and you want to help him do it right. It's instinct. So you see a biker kicking some poor schmuck in the ribs, and you just react, You tell him, "No, no. The kidneys are below the ribs. Sure, the ribs can make a nice crunchy target for your steel toed boots, but trust me, you want the kidneys."
And then the newspaper jumps all over you, just for sharing your expertise with a novice.
2013-10-09 03:27:22 AM
1 votes:

gja: This could be a watermark case in that it will uncover some really ugly things the PDs like to keep hidden.
Finally, there is evidence that they have in their ranks those who are willing to aid and abet others in breaking the law as willful participants.


Let's see, the Officer is facing internal administrative charges instead of criminal charges.

Basically, the worst possible punishment he faces is being forced to retire and collect his pension.  If he's too young, he'll go get a better paying job as a Sergeant in New Jersey or Long Island.  SInce his name is being kept confidential, nobody will ever know anyway.
2013-10-08 06:11:21 PM
1 votes:
    I cant help but make note that several of these examples of small penis attitudes, whilst obviously not of the Aryan cult, are waring GERMAN WWII HELMETS.  Most visibly, and ironically, the black guy using his chrome plated version to smash the driver side window. Hitler would be proud, oh er, maybe not!
    Either way these bikers obviously have problems and those helmets are a statement involving violence, war and massacre.
    If I had my wife and 2 year old in that SUV, I would have done exactly the same thing.
2013-10-08 06:05:01 PM
1 votes:
I kept thinking "bike gang" referred to Sons of Silence or Hell's Angels, not some sad collection of dorks on crotch rockets.
2013-10-08 05:32:20 PM
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: "I think we all, no matter what your job is, have an obligation to help one another,'' Mayor Bloomberg said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe'' on Monday, in response to questioning about the officer's actions. "And if you see somebody getting beaten up, you know, let's go jump in and stop the fight."

Since you took away nearly everyone's right to own a gun, Mr Bloomberg, I don't think many people will intervene against a bike gang anymore.


Except the NYPD officers in the gang, who are one of the few people who can get concealed carry in NYC.

You know, because they're more responsible and law-abiding than you.  And would never be in gangs.
2013-10-08 05:06:21 PM
1 votes:
"I think we all, no matter what your job is, have an obligation to help one another,'' Mayor Bloomberg said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe'' on Monday, in response to questioning about the officer's actions. "And if you see somebody getting beaten up, you know, let's go jump in and stop the fight."

Since you took away nearly everyone's right to own a gun, Mr Bloomberg, I don't think many people will intervene against a bike gang anymore.
2013-10-08 05:01:50 PM
1 votes:

doyner: WelldeadLink: BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.

[img.fark.net image 620x413]
[img.fark.net image 414x303]

Also, the bikie violated human biology. You have to give a human at least two seconds to see what is happening and to react to it... and you can't be certain how they'll react. Count how many seconds there were between his starting to slow down and contact. Much less than two seconds -- the driver's foot may have been on its way to the brake pedal, but physics rules.

Not to mention the frames before it where the bikie was along side him in his lane and went out of his way to scoot in front of him at very close range.


What you missed the point where he kicked the side of the vehicle, before he stopped in front of it. These kind of bike rides tend to end badly, because of mob mentality. The SUV driver was stupid for ever stopping, at the point he started running he need to keep going until he either found a cop or out ran those farkers.


Bikers like this are not just a few bad apples they are the majority of these assholes. Which is why I favor laws making motorcycles illegal. They have no place on the road as they are dangerous vehicles driven by reckless criminal assholes.
2013-10-08 04:39:27 PM
1 votes:

Elegy: hobnail: I'll go make some popcorn while we wait for the tards to show up to defend those poor, defenseless bikers.

Too late, the white knights are already here.


They don't seem to have their heart in it today, though.
2013-10-08 04:19:32 PM
1 votes:

listernine: Lyonid: listernine: Cheater71: This is why i hated The Shield, because in real life, this is what Vic Mackey looks like. Glad to see he might lose his job. I hope he winds up in jail.

Jail? Hahaha. Good one. Don't you usually have to have audio, video, a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew all agree that the cop was breaking the law?

That depends... Did they walk into a bar?

No, but its a given the cop will walk.


...but not jay Meezee.... Window seat please..
2013-10-08 03:24:53 PM
1 votes:
mediablitz:

Sloppy troll gets caught talking to himself through an alt.


1. It's pretty clear he was making a joke. It's not like he was arguing different views or agreeing with himself. He saw a funny set up and took it.

2. I farky anyone who misuses "Troll" as an idiot.
2013-10-08 03:02:58 PM
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: The bikers learned a valuable lesson about cause and effect, and physics that day.  There's consequences for your actions, hopefully the bikers learned something.


You know better than that.  They didn't learn a thing that day.
2013-10-08 02:22:20 PM
1 votes:
I just saw that Lein is being charged. With cruelty to animals.
2013-10-08 02:13:37 PM
1 votes:

nytmare: Why do they keep being referred to as "undercover" when they actually mean "off-duty"?


As far as I've heard, one was actually undercover with the bikers on a "super secret mission" from his superiors.  And 5 other officers were off duty.
2013-10-08 02:12:22 PM
1 votes:

LemSkroob: I_C_Weener: This explains why the NYPD didn't want to actually police these gangs.

The qualifications for entering the NYPD have been drastically lowered in the last decades thanks to quotas and equal employment rights, and lower standards of character & personal history disqualifiers. This is the result.


Are you saying there were standards for entering the NYPD in the 70s and 80s (other than ability to remain silent and be a good bagman)?
2013-10-08 02:08:24 PM
1 votes:

Speef: Those motokiddies were behaving like absolute morons. None of them should be allowed back on the road.

That SUV driver should be in prison, though.  Pity he got off with a few bruises and slashes. If there was a cop there, he should have been shooting the driver as soon as he decided to use deadly force against a mass of helpless riders on the motorway.

Everyone involved sucks ass.


Oooh good one. 9.5/10. You're going to get many bites.
2013-10-08 02:08:22 PM
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: This explains why the NYPD didn't want to actually police these gangs.


The qualifications for entering the NYPD have been drastically lowered in the last decades thanks to quotas and equal employment rights, and lower standards of character & personal history disqualifiers. This is the result.
2013-10-08 01:58:56 PM
1 votes:

420Gabriel: And yet another cop that deserves to be shot in the face in public.

Just going by fark stories you get at least 20 a week that deserve to die a painful and humiliating death.


That's like saying based on free republic threads at least every democrat deserves to die a painful and humiliating death.
2013-10-08 01:56:14 PM
1 votes:
And yet another cop that deserves to be shot in the face in public.

Just going by fark stories you get at least 20 a week that deserve to die a painful and humiliating death.
2013-10-08 01:54:10 PM
1 votes:
Something needs to be done about vengeance a badge and a gun.
2013-10-08 01:49:38 PM
1 votes:
FTFA
As for the undercover cop, disgusted law-enforcement sources said Monday that Internal Affairs Bureau higher-ups want to nail the officer.
"The cop is a total mope. F-ing embarrassment, '' one source seethed. "They should can him immediately. Anyone else who was even peripherally involved should be canned."


He continued-

"You can't do this s-  out of uniform!  You wanna brutally beat someone who offends you somehow, or you just don't like the look of, you do it in uniform!  There's a reason we wear a shield, a shield is something you hide behind!"
2013-10-08 01:49:15 PM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.


Agreed. We've all seen the video and that journalist is an epic troll. You can tell because they just tackes it on at the end of the story.
2013-10-08 01:46:31 PM
1 votes:
Typical thug pig.  They are above the law and do what they want.
2013-10-08 01:46:07 PM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.


You really think someone would do that? Just go to the media and tell lies?
2013-10-08 01:37:48 PM
1 votes:

doglover: Internal Affairs Bureau higher-ups want to nail the officer.

Nail his ears to his asshole and hang him by his figgin?


THIS
2013-10-08 01:00:21 PM
1 votes:
Poor cop must have been severely traumatized. It took him several days to even realize he had been there, let alone involved.
2013-10-08 12:26:28 PM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Meanwhile, Christopher Cruz, 28, who allegedly started the chain of events by slowing down his bike to let his pals ahead - leaving Lien to bump his car into him - said in an interview aired Monday that he felt no responsibility.
"
I was looking over my shoulder to see where my friends were," he told ABC News. "I wanted them to pull in front so I could follow them. I didn't brake, but when I looked over my shoulder, my hand came off the throttle a little, but the driver didn't slow down at all and bumped me."

*Cough*Bullshiat*Cough*

Video shows a different story.


No, simple physics proves him correct.  Of course, for that to be true, the video taping motorcyclist has to have sped up at that exact same time by 100 MPH.  But I'm sure that is how it happened.
2013-10-08 10:01:24 AM
1 votes:
Internal Affairs Bureau higher-ups want to nail the officer.

Nail his ears to his asshole and hang him by his figgin?
 
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