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(Talking Points Memo)   Rick Scott apologizes for the 2012 voter purge, promises to make sure the next purge will be better, prevent Obama from winning the state   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 62
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2013-10-08 09:08:49 AM  
Nice sarcasm subby, I see what you're going for.
*reads article*
Are you f***ing kidding me?
 
2013-10-08 09:12:18 AM  
Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.
 
2013-10-08 09:13:02 AM  

Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.


Nah, I can respect Lex Luthor.
 
2013-10-08 09:21:55 AM  
Every time I see or hear about our Governor I try to scream but nothing comes out.

www.thetvcritic.org
 
2013-10-08 09:36:43 AM  
burlyadopter.com
 
2013-10-08 09:49:07 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Nice sarcasm subby, I see what you're going for.
*reads article*
Are you f***ing kidding me?


Actually, he didn't say that at all.  One of his henchmen did.
 
2013-10-08 10:00:20 AM  
Technically, it is important to purge voter rolls of people that have died or are rendered ineligible to vote due to felony conviction or whatnot.

However, it isn't appropriate to drop every voter with even a similar name to one of those folks.  Most other states handle this problem without creating a national embarrassment.  Of course, Florida is our national embarrassment, so I guess it is fitting.
 
2013-10-08 10:04:46 AM  

factoryconnection: Technically, it is important to purge voter rolls of people that have died or are rendered ineligible to vote due to felony conviction or whatnot.

However, it isn't appropriate to drop every voter with even a similar name to one of those folks.  Most other states handle this problem without creating a national embarrassment.  Of course, Florida is our national embarrassment, so I guess it is fitting.


Why is it important to purge people who have died from the voter rolls? If they are dead they won't be voting anyways.n I mean, sure, do it for adminstrative efficiency reasons, but it hardly seems important.
 
2013-10-08 10:06:01 AM  
Scott has pledged that the new program, named "Aktion T-4", will root out all of the poisonous filth within the state of Florida, and provide for more liebensraum for all true citizens of the State.
 
2013-10-08 10:07:40 AM  

DamnYankees: Why is it important to purge people who have died from the voter rolls? If they are dead they won't be voting anyways.n I mean, sure, do it for adminstrative efficiency reasons, but it hardly seems important.


Maybe to prevent people from reusing their identities.  But that has got to be a statistically tiny occurrence.  At least voting-wise.

The intention (if true) of the purge is OK.  The way they did it was criminal.
 
2013-10-08 10:10:11 AM  

Diogenes: Maybe to prevent people from reusing their identities. But that has got to be a statistically tiny occurrence. At least voting-wise.

The intention (if true) of the purge is OK. The way they did it was criminal.


In-person voting fraud is a quite rare, hundredths-of-a-percent occurrence.  But especially in God's Waiting Room, they should be efficient and accurate with handling the administration of peoples' deaths.
 
2013-10-08 10:13:05 AM  

factoryconnection: Diogenes: Maybe to prevent people from reusing their identities. But that has got to be a statistically tiny occurrence. At least voting-wise.

The intention (if true) of the purge is OK. The way they did it was criminal.

In-person voting fraud is a quite rare, hundredths-of-a-percent occurrence.  But especially in God's Waiting Room, they should be efficient and accurate with handling the administration of peoples' deaths.


Well, Rick sure did before he became Governor.  Medicare reimbursements for dead patients are pretty sweet.
 
2013-10-08 10:16:43 AM  

Diogenes: Well, Rick sure did before he became Governor. Medicare reimbursements for dead patients are pretty sweet.


He is not a good person.  We in Dixie (and the Dick) can sure hitch our wagons to some jackasses... and I speak as someone in Mark Sanford's (SC-1) district.
 
2013-10-08 10:35:21 AM  
After he's done, Obama should move to Miami and run for governor of Florida just for shiats and giggles.
 
2013-10-08 10:37:21 AM  

JerseyTim: After he's done, Obama should move to Miami and run for governor of Florida just for shiats and giggles.


I would consider moving to FL just to vote for him. And for the lulz.
 
2013-10-08 10:42:12 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: JerseyTim: After he's done, Obama should move to Miami and run for governor of Florida just for shiats and giggles.

I would consider moving to FL just to vote for him. And for the lulz.


Geez.  They want to split the state into three pieces as it is.  That would push us over the edge.  And I don't want to live in the great state of Mickey.
 
2013-10-08 10:54:32 AM  

Diogenes: Geez.  They want to split the state into three pieces as it is.  That would push us over the edge.  And I don't want to live in the great state of Mickey.


Maybe he can move to Windermere.
 
2013-10-08 11:05:25 AM  
I, for one, welcome the re-election of Charlie Crist.
 
2013-10-08 11:07:28 AM  
"This year we're holding up everyone's picture next to a sample card of Sherwin-Williams' 'Maison Blanche' to determine 'eligibility.'"
 
2013-10-08 11:09:58 AM  
Damnit. I recently moved from Austin, TX to Orlando, FL. From one DickRick to another.

At least Rick Perry had that Affable Haircut thing going for him, where you could pat him on the head and go, "You poor, dumb, relatively powerless sumbiatch." Rick Scott is blatant in his cockishness, and everything he says just sounds like, "I hate brown people and Democrats, and I really am just here to make more money."
 
2013-10-08 11:10:28 AM  
Type II error? What's that?
 
2013-10-08 11:12:46 AM  

Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.


This has got to stop across the board.  One of the biggest mistakes progressives and liberals can make is assume their opponents are idiots.  Most of the GOP didn't make it to where they are by being stupid, even though it may seem that way from a different worldview.  Liberals, as a whole, need to be less arrogant in this regard.

/see the Bush administration
//admitted libtard
 
2013-10-08 11:13:49 AM  
Today's Republican Party is a sworn enemy of democracy.

-Voter purges
-Voter suppression laws
-Egregious gerrymandering
-Routine use of filibuster by Senate minority
-and now, the attempt by a minority of one legislative chamber to achieve policy goals through financial extortion, after failing to achieve them through the legislative process or through the courts

Pretty much everything the party does these days is anti-democratic. Apparently the last thing they want is for the will of the people to actually be done.
 
2013-10-08 11:15:30 AM  
This is the part that is so striking.

FTA: Florida's list of suspected noncitizens dwindled from 182,000 to 2,600 to 198 prior to the 2012 election.

Am I reading this right? Did they go from 182,000 to 198? Meaning they tried to disenfranchise 1000 times more voters than were actually ineligible?
 
2013-10-08 11:16:06 AM  
I'll have you know I plan on voting for Obama two or three times in Florida in 2016.

Purge away Batboy!  Purge away!
 
2013-10-08 11:17:03 AM  

JerseyTim: Diogenes: Geez.  They want to split the state into three pieces as it is.  That would push us over the edge.  And I don't want to live in the great state of Mickey.

Maybe he can move to Windermere.


That's in Mickey territory.  You know that!

They say the north, central, and south should be separated.

But I agree if there was one place for an ex Prez to move in Central Florida, that would be it.  Specifically, Isleworth.   Perhaps Sarasota, but I don't know where that falls in terms of the pro-separationists.
 
2013-10-08 11:18:04 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Today's Republican Party is a sworn enemy of democracy.

-Voter purges
-Voter suppression laws
-Egregious gerrymandering
-Routine use of filibuster by Senate minority
-and now, the attempt by a minority of one legislative chamber to achieve policy goals through financial extortion, after failing to achieve them through the legislative process or through the courts

Pretty much everything the party does these days is anti-democratic. Apparently the last thing they want is for the will of the people to actually be done.


The Southern Political Coalition is now, and has always been, interested in representative democracy only to the extent that it protects their own power and privilege.
 
2013-10-08 11:18:38 AM  
We might need some UN observers for Florida in the next election.
 
2013-10-08 11:19:18 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Type II error? What's that?


If we're talking about stats, the failure to reject a false null hypothesis (H0).
 
2013-10-08 11:19:56 AM  

Diogenes: PC LOAD LETTER: JerseyTim: After he's done, Obama should move to Miami and run for governor of Florida just for shiats and giggles.

I would consider moving to FL just to vote for him. And for the lulz.

Geez.  They want to split the state into three pieces as it is.  That would push us over the edge.  And I don't want to live in the great state of Mickey.


A friend of mine in law school who came from Clearwater used to refer to Florida, North Cuba, and South Georgia as three separate states.
 
2013-10-08 11:20:50 AM  

BMulligan: Diogenes: PC LOAD LETTER: JerseyTim: After he's done, Obama should move to Miami and run for governor of Florida just for shiats and giggles.

I would consider moving to FL just to vote for him. And for the lulz.

Geez.  They want to split the state into three pieces as it is.  That would push us over the edge.  And I don't want to live in the great state of Mickey.

A friend of mine in law school who came from Clearwater used to refer to Florida, North Cuba, and South Georgia as three separate states.


I'm not in favor of it, but the argument has its merits for exactly that reason.
 
2013-10-08 11:21:31 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Type II error? What's that?


It's the kind that can be controlled with diet and exercise.
 
2013-10-08 11:21:43 AM  

TwoBeersOneCan: Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.

This has got to stop across the board.  One of the biggest mistakes progressives and liberals can make is assume their opponents are idiots.  Most of the GOP didn't make it to where they are by being stupid, even though it may seem that way from a different worldview.  Liberals, as a whole, need to be less arrogant in this regard.

/see the Bush administration
//admitted libtard


No, they're not necessarily stupid. They do tend to be cynical and manipulative of their base. Most politicians are. The GOP seems, however, to disproportionately lean on emotion and religion to move their base, rather than science or rational thought. As mentioned before, the idea of someone being dead should rationally block that person from voting, and there should be a system in which someone trying to use their SSN reveals that the SSN belongs to a dead person. But this isn't a voter-ID issue, it's a medical records issue. When a person is born or becomes a naturalized citizen, their name and SSN should go on a list of citizens that is used only to cross-reference them when they sign in to vote. Old people in rural Florida probably already have a birth certificate on file somewhere, whereas to get a voter ID they have to get out to an office with the proper paperwork (which they probably have to send off for or go to a different office to get), etc.

But what they're doing is going, "ILLEGALS MIGHT VOTE AND CRIMNALS MIGHT BE ALL FRAUDIN' AND STUFF" and scaring people into letting them go through the voter rolls with a rusty scalpel. And as we know, for the GOP, it's not about securing everyone's right to vote, it's about securing the right to vote for everyone who will likely vote GOP.
 
2013-10-08 11:23:36 AM  
 
2013-10-08 11:24:08 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "This year we're holding up everyone's picture next to a sample card of Sherwin-Williams' 'Maison Blanche' to determine 'eligibility.'"


Can I bring my Mr. Bingle doll as alternate proof of id?
 
2013-10-08 11:24:59 AM  
Dear gun people,

Remember how you say your guns will let you overthrow governments that are no longer following the will of the people?  This is why we don't believe you.


Signed,
Sane people.
 
2013-10-08 11:30:24 AM  
Florida actually has a Democrat majority, it's only through gerrymandering and voting shenanigans that Republicans have a voice in the state. Making things worse is the Republicans that are there are the most bigoted, irrational, authoritarian douches you'll find in the entire US.
 
2013-10-08 11:35:46 AM  

Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.


Nah.. Luthor only wanted to fire one nuke at Florida
 
2013-10-08 11:36:30 AM  

DamnYankees: factoryconnection: Technically, it is important to purge voter rolls of people that have died or are rendered ineligible to vote due to felony conviction or whatnot.

However, it isn't appropriate to drop every voter with even a similar name to one of those folks.  Most other states handle this problem without creating a national embarrassment.  Of course, Florida is our national embarrassment, so I guess it is fitting.

Why is it important to purge people who have died from the voter rolls? If they are dead they won't be voting anyways.n I mean, sure, do it for adminstrative efficiency reasons, but it hardly seems important.


Apparently you've never visited Illinois.
 
2013-10-08 11:40:45 AM  

ExcedrinHeadache: TwoBeersOneCan: Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.

This has got to stop across the board.  One of the biggest mistakes progressives and liberals can make is assume their opponents are idiots.  Most of the GOP didn't make it to where they are by being stupid, even though it may seem that way from a different worldview.  Liberals, as a whole, need to be less arrogant in this regard.

/see the Bush administration
//admitted libtard

No, they're not necessarily stupid. They do tend to be cynical and manipulative of their base. Most politicians are. The GOP seems, however, to disproportionately lean on emotion and religion to move their base, rather than science or rational thought. As mentioned before, the idea of someone being dead should rationally block that person from voting, and there should be a system in which someone trying to use their SSN reveals that the SSN belongs to a dead person. But this isn't a voter-ID issue, it's a medical records issue. When a person is born or becomes a naturalized citizen, their name and SSN should go on a list of citizens that is used only to cross-reference them when they sign in to vote. Old people in rural Florida probably already have a birth certificate on file somewhere, whereas to get a voter ID they have to get out to an office with the proper paperwork (which they probably have to send off for or go to a different office to get), etc.

But what they're doing is going, "ILLEGALS MIGHT VOTE AND CRIMNALS MIGHT BE ALL FRAUDIN' AND STUFF" and scaring people into letting them go through the voter rolls with a rusty scalpel. And as we know, for the GOP, it's not about securing everyone's right to vote, it's about securing the right to vote for everyone who will likely vote GOP.


That makes sense, but that wasn't my point.  My point is that liberals assuming our opponents are stupid puts us at an unnecessary disadvantage.
 
2013-10-08 11:49:24 AM  
Conservatives are incapable of running a legitimate election without outside oversight.
 
2013-10-08 11:51:36 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Hello, we are your friendly neighborhood republicans coming to check to see your voter ID card.
 
2013-10-08 11:52:45 AM  

DarwiOdrade: I, for one, welcome the re-election of Charlie Crist.


About that:  How many years does Scott have before he starts his re-election campaign?  Can Charlie again run for governor?

Can't vote in Florida; but will gladly give up some of my money for Crist's campaign/to oust Scott.
 
2013-10-08 12:00:02 PM  
The lines sucked but I managed to vote early in Orange County after only an hour wait and using just my BofA debit card picture ID because the rules said I could and I wanted to see if anyone made it a problem. It went smooth sailing.

Maybe I'm one of those examples of an evil noncitizen skewing the vote for Obama. :D
 
2013-10-08 12:16:21 PM  

TwoBeersOneCan: ExcedrinHeadache: TwoBeersOneCan: Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.

This has got to stop across the board.  One of the biggest mistakes progressives and liberals can make is assume their opponents are idiots.  Most of the GOP didn't make it to where they are by being stupid, even though it may seem that way from a different worldview.  Liberals, as a whole, need to be less arrogant in this regard.

/see the Bush administration
//admitted libtard

No, they're not necessarily stupid. They do tend to be cynical and manipulative of their base. Most politicians are. The GOP seems, however, to disproportionately lean on emotion and religion to move their base, rather than science or rational thought. As mentioned before, the idea of someone being dead should rationally block that person from voting, and there should be a system in which someone trying to use their SSN reveals that the SSN belongs to a dead person. But this isn't a voter-ID issue, it's a medical records issue. When a person is born or becomes a naturalized citizen, their name and SSN should go on a list of citizens that is used only to cross-reference them when they sign in to vote. Old people in rural Florida probably already have a birth certificate on file somewhere, whereas to get a voter ID they have to get out to an office with the proper paperwork (which they probably have to send off for or go to a different office to get), etc.

But what they're doing is going, "ILLEGALS MIGHT VOTE AND CRIMNALS MIGHT BE ALL FRAUDIN' AND STUFF" and scaring people into letting them go through the voter rolls with a rusty scalpel. And as we know, for the GOP, it's not about securing everyone's right to vote, it's about securing the right to vote for everyone who will likely vote GOP.

That makes sense, but that wasn't my point.  My point is that liberals assuming our opponents are stupid puts us at an unnecessary disadvantage.


Keep in mind that this same sort of thing is precisely why we ever even had a Bush Administration in the first place. Most people focus on the butterfly ballots and hanging chads and multiple recounts in a few disputed counties in Florida in 2000 leading to the State and U.S. Supreme Courts battling it out, but miss the big picture: none of that would ever have happened had not then-Governor Jeb Bush and his Secretary of State Harris earlier contracted with DataBase Technologies, Inc. (DBT ― a division of ChoicePoint, Inc.) to purge the voter rolls.

By conservative estimates, a bare minimum of a full hundred likely Gore voters were purged from the rolls and not permitted to vote (many if not most finding out about this when they went to the polls on Election Day) for each and every vote by which Bush "won" Florida ― a total of nearly 60,000 disenfranchised voters, mostly Democrats.

Think of all that resulted from that.
 
2013-10-08 12:19:28 PM  

factoryconnection: However, it isn't appropriate to drop every voter with even a similar name to one of those folks.


Especially if you use a list of felons from Texas... permanent felony disenfranchisement is stupid.

factoryconnection: In-person voting fraud is a quite rare, hundredths-of-a-percent occurrence.


Even less than that.
 
2013-10-08 12:20:17 PM  

meat0918: I'll have you know I plan on voting for Obama two or three times in Florida in 2016.

Purge away Batboy!  Purge away!


Any excuse to post this:

i238.photobucket.comi238.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-08 12:20:42 PM  

qorkfiend: Doc Daneeka: Today's Republican Party is a sworn enemy of democracy.

-Voter purges
-Voter suppression laws
-Egregious gerrymandering
-Routine use of filibuster by Senate minority
-and now, the attempt by a minority of one legislative chamber to achieve policy goals through financial extortion, after failing to achieve them through the legislative process or through the courts

Pretty much everything the party does these days is anti-democratic. Apparently the last thing they want is for the will of the people to actually be done.

The Southern Political Coalition is now, and has always been, interested in representative democracy only to the extent that it protects their own power and privilege.


Are you insinuating that the Southern aristocracy would go so far as to start an insurrection to preserve their power/money base?
 
2013-10-08 12:24:46 PM  

COMALite J: TwoBeersOneCan: ExcedrinHeadache: TwoBeersOneCan: Mugato: Rick Scott  is Lex Luthor only more evil and without the intelligence or competence.

This has got to stop across the board.  One of the biggest mistakes progressives and liberals can make is assume their opponents are idiots.  Most of the GOP didn't make it to where they are by being stupid, even though it may seem that way from a different worldview.  Liberals, as a whole, need to be less arrogant in this regard.

/see the Bush administration
//admitted libtard

No, they're not necessarily stupid. They do tend to be cynical and manipulative of their base. Most politicians are. The GOP seems, however, to disproportionately lean on emotion and religion to move their base, rather than science or rational thought. As mentioned before, the idea of someone being dead should rationally block that person from voting, and there should be a system in which someone trying to use their SSN reveals that the SSN belongs to a dead person. But this isn't a voter-ID issue, it's a medical records issue. When a person is born or becomes a naturalized citizen, their name and SSN should go on a list of citizens that is used only to cross-reference them when they sign in to vote. Old people in rural Florida probably already have a birth certificate on file somewhere, whereas to get a voter ID they have to get out to an office with the proper paperwork (which they probably have to send off for or go to a different office to get), etc.

But what they're doing is going, "ILLEGALS MIGHT VOTE AND CRIMNALS MIGHT BE ALL FRAUDIN' AND STUFF" and scaring people into letting them go through the voter rolls with a rusty scalpel. And as we know, for the GOP, it's not about securing everyone's right to vote, it's about securing the right to vote for everyone who will likely vote GOP.

That makes sense, but that wasn't my point.  My point is that liberals assuming our opponents are stupid puts us at an unnecessary disadvantage.

Keep in mind t ...


I understand that.  My point is still valid.  The assumption that conservatives are idiots will only allow them to more easily fleece us.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-10-08 12:32:54 PM  
Today's GOP pols have problems with immorality.

This is the real immorality of our times, not the shiat they constantly whine about.
 
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