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(WTKR)   Cool: NASCAR pit crew gassing up a car. Cooler: Navy crew loading 600,000 gallons of jet fuel onto a moving aircraft carrier. With bonus dolphins at 0:40   (wtkr.com) divider line 16
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2013-10-08 09:42:35 AM
...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)
 
2013-10-08 10:34:47 AM

FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)


600,000 gallons takes a little longer than that.

I was once upon a time in a helicopter squadron that sent detachments out to replenishment ships like the Kanawa. On the third day of my very first deployment the USS Ranger hit us during an UNREP. I was a little gunshy the rest of the cruise.
 
2013-10-08 11:59:21 AM

FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)


If it weren't for needing new tires, I wonder if NASCAR could pull of a moving refueling.  Of course not a full speed, but you'll need a Craftsman truck and a stupid guy in the back to hold the can.
 
2013-10-08 01:39:53 PM

lack of warmth:
If it weren't for needing new tires, I wonder if NASCAR could pull of a moving refueling.  Of course not a full speed, but you'll need a Craftsman truck and a stupid guy in the back to hold the can.


Give it time; our best Saudi research team is ON IT.
 
2013-10-08 04:34:03 PM
Oh, how cute.  We do offshore lightering;  moving millions of barrels of oil via ship to ship transfer at sea. 1 out of every 4 barrels of oil coming to the US is transfered via offshore lightering..  One to grow on.
 
2013-10-08 05:05:00 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)

600,000 gallons takes a little longer than that.

I was once upon a time in a helicopter squadron that sent detachments out to replenishment ships like the Kanawa. On the third day of my very first deployment the USS Ranger hit us during an UNREP. I was a little gunshy the rest of the cruise.


I was on a cruiser last year when they did an unrep with no collisions to be had.   It was a thing of beauty.
 
2013-10-08 05:30:35 PM
I was on the Forrestal and every unrep, except for the first one after I came aboard went off without a hitch. That first time was a bit different as we got together with the ship fueling us and did a little bit of sheet metal damage. We poked a hole in her stack and about 100 feet of our catwalk (and anything in it) was crushed.
 
2013-10-08 08:09:02 PM
I used to live across the street from the guy who made breeches buoys for the navy (amongst other things....)
 
2013-10-08 09:16:30 PM

lack of warmth: FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)

If it weren't for needing new tires, I wonder if NASCAR could pull of a moving refueling.  Of course not a full speed, but you'll need a Craftsman truck and a stupid guy in the back to hold the can.


Imagine how fast Clint Bowyer's crew would have been if they didn't have to change 255 tires during a stop...
 
2013-10-08 09:58:33 PM
I did not know they did that. What is the point of doing it that way? If it was 194x then I would think that it might prevent being a sitting duck but even then I believe ships, planes and sub could hit a moving target that goes in straight line at a constant speed. Is it to save time? How much time does a refueling take?
 
2013-10-08 11:28:00 PM
On a conventional carrier (non nuclear), unreps used to take about 4 hrs. But we were getting diesel fuel to power the ship as well as jet fuel for the aircraft.  I would guess a nuclear carrier would be able to refuel in about half that time just because they don't need to bring on the diesel fuel in large quantities.
As to "why do this at sea?":  Jet fuel and JP5 is pretty volatile stuff. I imagine (tho I never found out for sure) that underway replenishments are ultimately safer than refueling in port. (Don't want to accidentally blow up a a city's port!) Also, due to their size, aircraft carriers cannot pull alongside a pier in most ports. Even if they could, many ports would not have the amount of fuel available to meet the need, and its even more doubtful that they would be able to supply JP-5 and jet fuel. Finally, when a ship is on an extended deployment between port calls (which can last 30 days or more), it becomes necessary to replenish them while underway.
 
2013-10-09 12:07:40 AM

talkertopc: I did not know they did that. What is the point of doing it that way? If it was 194x then I would think that it might prevent being a sitting duck but even then I believe ships, planes and sub could hit a moving target that goes in straight line at a constant speed. Is it to save time? How much time does a refueling take?


I'm not an expert, but I would think that ships moving under their own power are much easier to control than ships just floating.
 
2013-10-09 01:12:56 AM

Old_Chief_Scott: FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)

600,000 gallons takes a little longer than that.

I was once upon a time in a helicopter squadron that sent detachments out to replenishment ships like the Kanawa. On the third day of my very first deployment the USS Ranger hit us during an UNREP. I was a little gunshy the rest of the cruise.


Skycrane?
 
2013-10-09 12:39:00 PM

Weenie_Boy: I used to live across the street from the guy who made breeches buoys for the navy (amongst other things....)


I used to live across the street from a guy who dropped his breeches for boys from the navy (amongst other things...)
 
2013-10-09 01:19:55 PM

ski9600: Old_Chief_Scott: FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)

600,000 gallons takes a little longer than that.

I was once upon a time in a helicopter squadron that sent detachments out to replenishment ships like the Kanawa. On the third day of my very first deployment the USS Ranger hit us during an UNREP. I was a little gunshy the rest of the cruise.

Skycrane?


H-46
 
2013-10-09 02:21:28 PM

lack of warmth: FREDIOHEAD: ...But can they do it in 13 seconds? ;-)

If it weren't for needing new tires, I wonder if NASCAR could pull of a moving refueling.  Of course not a full speed, but you'll need a Craftsman truck and a stupid guy in the back to hold the can.


Gober Sosebee, an old timey shine runner, was in an early race and stopped for gas.  Since he didn't have time for the guy to pour gas in the tank he took him into the car and kept racing while the guy filled the tank from inside the car.  He won the race, but was disqualified.  He protested since there was no rule (at the time) that he couldn't do that.  He won the arguement but never got the trophy or the cash.

His wonderful wife told me the story at the Georgia Racing hall of Fame Museum.  Spiffy place to visit.
 
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