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(BBC)   Anti-vaccination opponents kill two with bomb blast, kill thousands more via preventable infectious disease   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line 33
    More: Scary, city of Peshawar, Pakistan, polio, polio vaccine, US Navy SEAL, Taliban  
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2013-10-07 01:04:39 PM  
9 votes:
Anti and opponent mean the same thing. Choose one, subby.
2013-10-07 01:42:36 PM  
7 votes:
"A fake hepatitis vaccination campaign, run covertly by the CIA, helped to locate al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in 2011. He was then killed in an operation by US Navy Seals."

I really farking hope heads rolled over that one.

Didn't they do something similar in Columbia and used the Red Cross as cover to rescue people?

Hey assholes, don't use aid agencies as cover for covert ops.
2013-10-07 01:50:54 PM  
4 votes:
I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies! I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us.

/ my apologies, i don't mean to make light of the horror...
2013-10-07 01:11:45 PM  
4 votes:
Gee, unintended results from a CIA plan. Who'd have thought?
2013-10-07 02:02:35 PM  
3 votes:

drxym: The Taliban - proudly promoting ignorance and backwardness since 1996.


The Taliban. Yet another CIA operation with unintended consequences.
2013-10-07 02:01:18 PM  
3 votes:

NutWrench: What the CIA did is despicable. They deliberately jeopardized the lives of foreign health care workers in Pakistan, and have made their jobs far more difficult and dangerous.


At least the article mentioned why the Pakistanis distrust Polio vaccination efforts even if it was buried near the end. I didn't expect that honesty.
2013-10-07 01:59:58 PM  
3 votes:
So stop vaccinating.  fark em.  Enjoy your polio, you worthless bronze-age barbarians.
2013-10-07 01:58:24 PM  
3 votes:
What the CIA did is despicable. They deliberately jeopardized the lives of foreign health care workers in Pakistan, and have made their jobs far more difficult and dangerous.
2013-10-07 01:47:49 PM  
3 votes:

meat0918: "A fake hepatitis vaccination campaign, run covertly by the CIA, helped to locate al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in 2011. He was then killed in an operation by US Navy Seals."

I really farking hope heads rolled over that one.

Didn't they do something similar in Columbia and used the Red Cross as cover to rescue people?

Hey assholes, don't use aid agencies as cover for covert ops.


This.

In its zeal to identify bin Laden or his family, the CIA used a sham hepatitis B vaccination project to collect DNA in the neighborhood where he was hiding. The effort apparently failed, but the violation of trust threatens to set back global public health efforts by decades.
2013-10-07 01:42:40 PM  
3 votes:
Well, considering Al Shabbab thinks a round Earth is anti-Islamic western propaganda, the Taliban sounds like farking Louis Pasteur.
2013-10-07 12:50:07 PM  
3 votes:
The Taliban accuse health workers of working as US spies and allege that the polio vaccine makes children sterile.

If only it made the Taliban sterile.

Always fun to look at:  http://jennymccarthybodycount.com./Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html
2013-10-07 03:01:43 PM  
2 votes:

Alucard1191: Going to say my piece on anti-vax. I'm a massage therapist/physical therapist by training and I've heard a fark ton of anti-vax propaganda over the years. Granted, 90% of those that get flu vaccines do not need them, but getting rid of polio, measles, hepatitis, rabies, etc, has been great for our country. I currently live in Washington state, and last year we had a huge upswing in whooping cough cases, because people didn't vaccinate their kids. This should never happen. Every time I go out of country, I am really really glad we have those malaria pills. Science is good you god damn idiots. Yes, smoke your weed, juice your beets and be healthy, that is called PREVENTATIVE care, and PREVENTS you from getting sick, and helps you recover faster when you do. It isn't a substitute for vaccines. Just because you juice carrots, apples, beets, and ginger every day, it doesn't mean you're immune to farking polio.

Ok, I'm done. I didn't realize how worked up this gets me.


Flu shots are not unnecessary. For one thing, they increase herd immunity and stop the damn bug from spreading to people it's likely to kill. And second, have you HAD influenza? That shiat will knock you out for days/weeks. My wife was in her 30s the last time she had the flu, when she spent THREE WEEKS in bed with a high fever. We haven't missed a vaccination since. I've had the flu three times in my life, and each time I was unconscious/delirious from fever for at least 24 hours. Not to mention the headache from hell and the puking. What most people think is the flu is just a little food poisoning/parasite infection or a bad cold. The actual flu is a motherfarker.
2013-10-07 02:01:19 PM  
2 votes:

meat0918: "A fake hepatitis vaccination campaign, run covertly by the CIA, helped to locate al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in 2011. He was then killed in an operation by US Navy Seals."

I really farking hope heads rolled over that one.

Didn't they do something similar in Columbia and used the Red Cross as cover to rescue people?

Hey assholes, don't use aid agencies as cover for covert ops.


And if you do, don't admit to it. Ever. Just keep telling people the rumors are absurd.
2013-10-07 01:50:46 PM  
2 votes:
Anti-vaccination opponents = people in support of vaccinations.
2013-10-07 01:32:38 PM  
2 votes:
Vaccination workers are really US spies? Where would they get that crazy idea from?
2013-10-07 01:12:05 PM  
2 votes:
Anti-vaccination opponents give me a headache.
2013-10-07 03:15:00 PM  
1 vote:

0z79: jaytkay: computerguyUT: Ahh the loving religion of peace strikes again!.

Peace to you! Peace all over you!  I Peace on you!!

F-ing Taliban.  Truly the most horrific organization on the planet today.  Considering others like feminists and the democratic party, that says a LOT.

Nope, this one is on your team. The Taliban are conservatives
Did... did you just say that all conservatives, everywhere in the world, are all THAT ignorant, uneducated, backwards and fundamentalist?

You might want to step out of the basement and have more conversations with actual people, instead of words written on a screen, by someone hundreds or thousands of  miles away.. and whatever echo-chamber you use to reinforce your beliefs? Spend some time away from it.

/it's still kind of nice out
//autumn is beautiful
///go get some apple cider and stop being a troll


Relevant SMBC:

www.smbc-comics.com

Problem: WE ARE THE ASSHOLES
2013-10-07 03:08:00 PM  
1 vote:
It's not like islamists don't use the same sort of tactics, using NGOs as covers for military operations.

img2u.info

Obama did the right thing by using vaccinations as cover for CIA operations, even if it didn't yield the results they needed.
2013-10-07 02:42:28 PM  
1 vote:
Going to say my piece on anti-vax. I'm a massage therapist/physical therapist by training and I've heard a fark ton of anti-vax propaganda over the years. Granted, 90% of those that get flu vaccines do not need them, but getting rid of polio, measles, hepatitis, rabies, etc, has been great for our country. I currently live in Washington state, and last year we had a huge upswing in whooping cough cases, because people didn't vaccinate their kids. This should never happen. Every time I go out of country, I am really really glad we have those malaria pills. Science is good you god damn idiots. Yes, smoke your weed, juice your beets and be healthy, that is called PREVENTATIVE care, and PREVENTS you from getting sick, and helps you recover faster when you do. It isn't a substitute for vaccines. Just because you juice carrots, apples, beets, and ginger every day, it doesn't mean you're immune to farking polio.

Ok, I'm done. I didn't realize how worked up this gets me.
2013-10-07 02:29:26 PM  
1 vote:
Polio Akbar!!!!!
2013-10-07 02:26:01 PM  
1 vote:

JesusJuice: So stop vaccinating.  fark em.  Enjoy your polio, you worthless bronze-age barbarians.



I'd be inclinded to agree, but there's a problem with that. Unless the disease is totally eradicated that gives it a resevoir population to survive in, and in this age of global travel that means that it could spread out to children in places which have eradicated it with vaccines, but stopped vaccinating everyone since they haven't had to any more.

But yeah, fark the CIA for giving those nutbags an actual fact to cite when they are paranoid about vaccination efforts. The folks responsible SHOULD be hung out to dry. They won't though.
2013-10-07 02:23:07 PM  
1 vote:

pute kisses like a man: / my apologies, i don't mean to make light of the horror...


This is what I came here looking for. I got my daily Col. Kurtz fix.
2013-10-07 02:21:11 PM  
1 vote:

Because People in power are Stupid: The Taliban accuse health workers of working as US spies and allege that the polio vaccine makes children sterile.

If only it made the Taliban sterile.

Always fun to look at:  http://jennymccarthybodycount.com./Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html


That is a fascinating website.  Well, I mean the links to the CDC where you can see what everyone's dying of.  Bad year for Cyclosporiasis.
2013-10-07 02:20:01 PM  
1 vote:

computerguyUT: Ahh the loving religion of peace strikes again!.

Peace to you! Peace all over you!  I Peace on you!!

F-ing Taliban.  Truly the most horrific organization on the planet today.  Considering others like feminists and the democratic party, that says a LOT.


Nope, this one is on your team. The Taliban are conservatives.
2013-10-07 02:13:34 PM  
1 vote:

NutWrench: What the CIA did is despicable. They deliberately jeopardized the lives of foreign health care workers in Pakistan, and have made their jobs far more difficult and dangerous.


Obama did what he had to do to catch Bin Laden.

Bush didn't have the balls to try something that audacious and clever.
2013-10-07 02:13:32 PM  
1 vote:
NutWrench:
What the CIA did is despicable. They deliberately jeopardized the lives of foreign health care workers in Pakistan, and have made their jobs far more difficult and dangerous.

Most of what they do is despicable.  To be a spook is largely to exist in a moral vacuum where your country's evil is somehow preferable to your opponents' evil.
2013-10-07 02:11:45 PM  
1 vote:

SphericalTime: NutWrench: What the CIA did is despicable. They deliberately jeopardized the lives of foreign health care workers in Pakistan, and have made their jobs far more difficult and dangerous.

At least the article mentioned why the Pakistanis distrust Polio vaccination efforts even if it was buried near the end. I didn't expect that honesty.


It's the BBC.  After a steady diet of American news outlets, exposure to actual journalism can be a bit shocking.

/there's a parallel to vaccinations there, but I have to be in the teaching lab in 26 minutes.
//crap, 19 now
2013-10-07 01:59:54 PM  
1 vote:
Nobody's right here.

All the heroes are dead.

/in truth, they never existed
2013-10-07 01:47:07 PM  
1 vote:
I'm opposed to that headline. What a distraction to the story.
2013-10-07 01:46:26 PM  
1 vote:

Trocadero: Well, considering Al Shabbab thinks a round Earth is anti-Islamic western propaganda, the Taliban sounds like farking Louis Pasteur.


Boko Haram, which translates to "Western education is forbidden" makes them both look like farking Euclid, Copernicus and the Wright brothers rolled into one.

The nice thing about anti-intellectual extremists is that they tend to make themselves irrelevant in a short (historically speaking) time.
2013-10-07 01:46:06 PM  
1 vote:
Anti-vaccination opponents: so the opponents of those who oppose vaccination? Isn't that a good thing?
2013-10-07 01:41:17 PM  
1 vote:
Time for Jenny McCarthy pics!

(*cough*)
2013-10-07 01:37:29 PM  
1 vote:
Damn you, Jihady McCarthy!
 
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