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(NPR)   The government shutdown has one positive side effect: the number of women signing up for a "mutually beneficial arrangement" is up 50%   (npr.org ) divider line
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2013-10-07 08:00:24 AM  
After only a week? What kind of shape were their finances in before the shutdown?
 
2013-10-07 10:02:39 AM  

naughtyrev: After only a week? What kind of shape were their finances in before the shutdown?


Isn't the number of people living paycheck to paycheck in the US pretty high? One missed paycheck means going into debt to pay the bills for a lot of people.
 
2013-10-07 10:06:04 AM  
Republicanism: Destroy the government so you can fark poor people... sometimes literally.
 
2013-10-07 10:21:04 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Republicanism: Destroy the government so you can fark poor people... sometimes literally.


Last I heard the GOP wanted to cancel taxes on my Grandpa's hearing aids and pacemakers, and give individuals the same 1-year mandate relief that Obama gave businesses.

Why do you people hate my grandpa and love big business?
 
2013-10-07 10:21:12 AM  
You know, this reminds me of how you can buy Jack Daniel's at the distillery (in a dry county), because they are selling you the bottles only (the liquor inside is free).

Everyone knows exactly what it is, and it's just a thin semantic difference.  Because who would sign up for seekingprostitution.com?
 
2013-10-07 10:22:14 AM  

miscreant: Isn't the number of people living paycheck to paycheck in the US pretty high? One missed paycheck means going into debt to pay the bills for a lot of people.


Thirty six percent. It's getting better. More people are saving, too.

Well... it WAS getting better. And people WERE saving more. We'll see what happens when the republicans crash the market again next week.

Although it ought to be a bonanza for anybody with a stockpile of cash who's been tired of seeing it shrink in the face of even our minor inflation because interest rates have been so ungodly low for so long.
 
2013-10-07 10:35:07 AM  
Took a peek-- pretty much NO difference between the ads on this site and ads on sites for call girls.


So, around $3,000/month (on average-- can get low as around $1,000/month) for unlimited sex on demand-- but with only one woman.

Hmmm, might not be too bad on a cost/benefit analysis vs. call girls-- depending on one's libido and desire for variety.  The deals would likely only get better as the economy gets worse, of course.

I wonder if you could easily get "arrangements" for only 1 month at a time to keep the variety coming.

/Just sayin'
 
2013-10-07 10:37:51 AM  
You make your bed, sissy, you get to sleep in it. And it might not be as warm and comforting as you think.
 
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2013-10-07 10:59:57 AM  
miscreant: Isn't the number of people living paycheck to paycheck in the US pretty high?

The Freakonomics podcast had an episode about the question, how many people could come up with $2,000 in 30 days. That includes begging family for help, not just taking money out of the bank. Half of Americans couldn't.
 
2013-10-07 11:46:36 AM  
This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.

Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?

Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?

The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.
 
2013-10-07 11:55:24 AM  
Really? I need to check my Inbox more frequently.
 
2013-10-07 12:15:59 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-07 01:16:34 PM  
Heard fun saying on NPR today from a divorce lawyer; A man is not a financial plan
 
2013-10-07 01:29:09 PM  

Riche: Took a peek-- pretty much NO difference between the ads on this site and ads on sites for call girls.


So, around $3,000/month (on average-- can get low as around $1,000/month) for unlimited sex on demand-- but with only one woman.

Hmmm, might not be too bad on a cost/benefit analysis vs. call girls-- depending on one's libido and desire for variety.  The deals would likely only get better as the economy gets worse, of course.

I wonder if you could easily get "arrangements" for only 1 month at a time to keep the variety coming.

/Just sayin'


Your newsletter, I wish to subscribe...
 
2013-10-07 01:31:49 PM  

naughtyrev: After only a week? What kind of shape were their finances in before the shutdown?


They might be trying to get out ahead of the upcoming default. When that hits, the only usable currencies will be ammo, canned goods, and pussy.
 
2013-10-07 01:38:11 PM  
But they're not whores, right?
 
2013-10-07 01:44:06 PM  
$80 for date? Hmmmmm..............
 
2013-10-07 01:52:40 PM  

Clever Neologism: You know, this reminds me of how you can buy Jack Daniel's at the distillery (in a dry county), because they are selling you the bottles only (the liquor inside is free).

Everyone knows exactly what it is, and it's just a thin semantic difference.  Because who would sign up for seekingprostitution.com?


The county government gave the distillery a variation or whatever to sell from the gift shop. Your version is just silly.
 
2013-10-07 02:25:53 PM  

RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.

Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?

Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?

The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.


Hu?
 
2013-10-07 02:32:21 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: naughtyrev: After only a week? What kind of shape were their finances in before the shutdown?

They might be trying to get out ahead of the upcoming default. When that hits, the only usable currencies will be ammo, canned goods, and pussy.


Thank god I have plenty of ammo and canned goods.
 
2013-10-07 02:46:59 PM  

RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.


Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!
 
2013-10-07 02:57:27 PM  

Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.

Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!


The Time and CBS stories explicitly source NPR.
And DC Caller sources a PRESS RELEASE from SeekingArrangement.com


It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.

i.imgur.com

And none of them offer proof.

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

But enjoy that sort of journalism if that's your thing.
 
2013-10-07 03:09:11 PM  

miscreant: naughtyrev: After only a week? What kind of shape were their finances in before the shutdown?

Isn't the number of people living paycheck to paycheck in the US pretty high? One missed paycheck means going into debt to pay the bills for a lot of people.


This.  After leaving college, I spent 4 months dumping cash into student loans, and running around paycheck to paycheck (in a "Welp, I got a new paycheck.  Time to dump $1,000 into student loans" sort of way) to the point where I was putting my car insurance on my credit card so I could dump that month's insurance payment onto my student loans and save 7 days in interest.

Then my month-to-month lease got cancelled and I got into 2 accidents in 3 days (1 my fault, 1 Hit and run).  So 2 months later, I had a new apartment (extra $300/month with roommate + $1K security deposit + $2100/month full rent payment before I got a roommate + A couple grand in furniture), an extra $4K in debt (all zero-interest, thank GOD), and $700/month in extra monthly payments.

You get into a point where every paycheck is just doing things to pay off the bills incurred on the previous paycheck and you're happy when they increase your credit limit on your credit cards because that lets you move more money 1-2 paychecks down the road.

And that's before bad shiat happens:
* My unexpected move sucked (and thank god I could go to family and say "Could I borrow a couple grand at 0% interest to make a security deposit?  Oh and you'll be dead last on my repayment schedule so see you in 2-3 years") and I only made it by getting a few hundred back from my last place and getting a roommate's rent check.
* Getting into 2 car accidents in 3 days meant that I was driving around on a busted car for 3 months until I could scrape together the money for the $1000 deductible (and thank GOD I only had a $500 deductible and not a $2000 one like I had originally planned).
* And then recently, I racked up $1800 in medical bills riding my bike under a parked carand cracking a couple of ribs.
* And then just to add insult to injury, my student loans got sold off, and in the process they moved the payment from the last half of the month to the first half of the month while not honoring my prepayment (Namely, my next required payment was June of 2014).  It was only $50/month, but still.

So everytime you get some money, it just gets dumped into the emergency of the month.  Luckily, I was trying to get some money together to pay back family loans, and so I had some money.

And let's be clear.  I had $1500/month that I wasn't doing anything with except dealing with the bullshiat from the first paycheck and trying to pay Grandma back for financing my first move.  Yes, my first paycheck of each month was a $2-300 loss if I was boring (Just the 1st of the month added up to about $1500, and there was about $500 in non-negotiable bills before I spent money on food, vodak, etc), but the second paycheck just had a car payment.  I can't imagine what actually being paycheck to paycheck would be like (Or actually I can.  Dad did it when he was paying $14K/year to my mother/taxes on a $28K income. It's called taking 3 years to get a Christmas tree).

/Honestly, the only way to break out of the cycle is to get some extra money all in a lump.  So if you're hourly, volunteer for some OT one weekend and use the extra (unanticipated) income to pay down the immediate debts and get you onto "right now" instead of "back then".  Or wait for a tax return and do it then.
 
2013-10-07 03:47:07 PM  

RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.

Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!

The Time and CBS stories explicitly source NPR.
And DC Caller sources a PRESS RELEASE from SeekingArrangement.com

It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.

[i.imgur.com image 443x348]

And none of them offer proof.

[i.imgur.com image 614x117]

[i.imgur.com image 306x309]

It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

But enjoy that sort of journalism if that's your thing.


RoyBatty: It's an NPR conspiracy!

Krieghund: No it's not. Here are some other news sites carrying this story.

RoyBatty: It's not a conspiracy, it's Press Release Journalism!
 
2013-10-07 03:50:11 PM  

RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.

Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!

The Time and CBS stories explicitly source NPR.
And DC Caller sources a PRESS RELEASE from SeekingArrangement.com

It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.

[i.imgur.com image 443x348]

And none of them offer proof.

[i.imgur.com image 614x117]

[i.imgur.com image 306x309]

It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

But enjoy that sort of journalism if that's your thing.


I agree that it's phony press release journalism.  Why didn't you call it that in the first place instead of talking about a feminist conspiracy?  Or are you just trying to cover up for the fact that  Krieghundcalled you out on your bullshiat?
 
2013-10-07 04:01:37 PM  

llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.

Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!

The Time and CBS stories explicitly source NPR.
And DC Caller sources a PRESS RELEASE from SeekingArrangement.com

It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.

[i.imgur.com image 443x348]

And none of them offer proof.

[i.imgur.com image 614x117]

[i.imgur.com image 306x309]

It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

But enjoy that sort of journalism if that's your thing.

I agree that it's phony press release journalism.  Why didn't you call it that in the first place instead of talking about a feminist conspiracy?  Or are you just trying to cover up for the fact that  Krieghundcalled you out on your bullshiat?


I never said it was a feminist conspiracy.

I said Elise Hu was a shiatty reporter and this article was additional evidence of her ongoing feminist agenda.

As I said, does she offer any proof the story is true and do you think she will follow up on it in a few weeks?

So she prints up a press release of Seeking Arrangement, CBS and Time reprint her version of it and Daily Caller goes straight to the press release.

AND you guys lap it up with a spoon.

That's fine. If you prefer silly trend stories offered with no proof that forward an agenda that you like that come straight out of press releases, I encourage you to retweet and like that story.

And if you think that Krieghound showing us how two more media sites printed a story without figuring out they sourced the original somehow makes the story more real and calls me out on my bullshiat then once more, congratulations to you and your media savvy.
 
2013-10-07 04:04:44 PM  
Hey, check out this basketball trickshot video on the video tab page!

I've seen the same video at Break, WIMP, LiveLeak so therefore I conclude the trickshots are real and the video is not fake and the greenlighting of it was reasonable.
 
2013-10-07 04:54:25 PM  
Would not a whore by any other name still be a Washington courtesan?
 
2013-10-07 05:01:33 PM  

squegeebooo: Clever Neologism: You know, this reminds me of how you can buy Jack Daniel's at the distillery (in a dry county), because they are selling you the bottles only (the liquor inside is free).

Everyone knows exactly what it is, and it's just a thin semantic difference.  Because who would sign up for seekingprostitution.com?

The county government gave the distillery a variation or whatever to sell from the gift shop. Your version is just silly.


That's what I've always been told, but it could be not true (even though they told me that was the case while I was there).

However, to satiate your pedantry, it's just like the breweries that can't sell beer because the don't hold a liquor license selling commemorative glasses for $ and then giving you as much beer as you can drink on their "tours", because they are allowed to give away beer for "tasting" if it's produced on premises.  It's just a roundabout way to sell beer and stay on the right side of the liquor board.  I don't think I ever went on the actual tours (seeing as I've homebrewed and know what's going on)...
 
2013-10-07 05:28:37 PM  

RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men.
Does Hu offer any proof the traffic is up 50%? Any numbers of what that traffic is? Talk to any of the new subscribers?
Will she follow up in a week, a month, or after the shutdown?
The new era of hip young tweeting journalists is probably the worse era in the past 100 years. They have tossed out any actual integrity and objectivity to justify terrible stories reported with a faux objectivity driving their college imposed agendas.

Worse, it's not just NPR making these claims. It's Time Magazine, CBS DC, and that well known liberal rag, The Daily Caller.

It's a conspiracy!

The Time and CBS stories explicitly source NPR.
And DC Caller sources a PRESS RELEASE from SeekingArrangement.com

It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.

[i.imgur.com image 443x348]

And none of them offer proof.

[i.imgur.com image 614x117]

[i.imgur.com image 306x309]

It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

But enjoy that sort of journalism if that's your thing.

I agree that it's phony press release journalism.  Why didn't you call it that in the first place instead of talking about a feminist conspiracy?  Or are you just trying to cover up for the fact that  Krieghundcalled you out on your bullshiat?

I never said it was a feminist conspiracy.

I said Elise Hu was a shiatty reporter and this article was additional evidence of her ongoing feminist agenda.

As I said, does she offer any proof the story is true and do you think she will follow up on it in a few weeks?

So she prints up a press release of Seeking Arrangement, CBS and Time reprint her version of it and Daily Caller goes straight to the press release.

AND you guy ...


I'm confused, is Daily Caller trying to push a feminism agenda or not?  If not, then why is Daily Caller not pushing the agenda while NPR is pushing the agenda when they publish the same press release.  Yes, this is bullshiat journalism, but if you're going to pretend it's politically motivated bullshiat, you'll have to provide some evidence and, more importantly, an explanation why a news outlet reporting the same non-story as a conservative outlet is pushing a liberal agenda.  Again, I agree it's bullshiat but I disagree that it's pushing an agenda.
 
2013-10-07 05:38:54 PM  

llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

I'm confused, is Daily Caller trying to push a feminism agenda or not?  If not, then why is Daily Caller not pushing the agenda while NPR is pushing the agenda when they publish the same press release.  Yes, this is bullshiat journalism, but if you're going to pretend it's politically motivated bullshiat, you'll have to provide some evidence and, more importantly, an explanation why a news outlet reporting the same non-story as a conservative outlet is pushing a liberal agenda.  Again, I agree it's bullshiat but I disagree that it's pushing an agenda.


You are confused because I never said it was a political agenda, I said she was a shiatty reporter with her own feminist agenda. I said NPR had many reporters these days that were busy fulfilling their own agendas, not that these agendas were NPRs agendas per se. I said reporting is now filled with reporters like this, busy tweeting and reprinting each other and all filling very hip about it.

If you don't think she is a shiatty reporter with her own agenda, all I will do is suggest you read prior stories and follow her in the future. No one can clearly prove an agenda with one report. It's a timeseries and a pattern.

We both agree (I think) it's a bullshiat trend piece and PR journalism. Hu though proudly states at various websites how she is an Harvard Nieman award winning journalst.

SO HOW DID SUCH A HARVARD NIEMAN AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST END UP PUBLISHING such a bullshiat article that both you and I peg it for being a bogus trend piece and PR Journalism?

My suggestion is that she knows what it is but it fits in well with her agenda, so boom, out it went.

I will also favor: she feels she has a quota so pumping out shiat like this gets her downstairs to happy hour that much sooner.

Either solution suggests she is a shiatty reporter but both contradict her winning journalism awards. One solution that helps solve that part of the conundrum: why would an award winning journalist publish such crap?

That the other sites just republished her crap is merely a statement of how much all of modern journalism is these days about republishing other media sites crap, to generate partner clicks. It also may be that the DC is not the vast right wing site you choose to believe it is but is mainly yet another corporate site much like NPR with its own profit goals and traffic goals it has to meet staffed with many of the same people that went to the same schools and get together for drinks in the same bars.
 
2013-10-07 05:40:32 PM  
Last response was rambling a bit. 4pm and my RSI is making my hand cranky.
 
2013-10-07 06:37:20 PM  

RoyBatty: It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.
And none of them offer proof.
It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.


I don't have any argument with that.

Reporters retyping a salacious press release that will get page hits AND get them to the bar is quite believable.
Sugar daddy websites lying about increased web traffic for free publicity is pretty believable too.

Reporters retyping stories that confirm their personal biases is believable as well, but if she meant this to further some anti-Republican agenda she went about it in an extremely roundabout way. First, you'd have to think that adult women choosing to solicit sugardaddies is a bad thing, then you'd have to think that Republicans caused the shutdown.

As a side note, you keep asking for proof that this is happening, but what the stories actually say is "[Seekingarrangement] says" and "[Whatsyourprice] reports". So the story is factual, even if the phenomena isn't. The reporters covered their asses.
 
2013-10-07 06:53:49 PM  

Krieghund: RoyBatty: It's clear that all four news sites are just spitting out the SeekingArrangement press release.
And none of them offer proof.
It's not a conspiracy, it is a phony trend story. It is Press Release Journalism.

I don't have any argument with that.

Reporters retyping a salacious press release that will get page hits AND get them to the bar is quite believable.
Sugar daddy websites lying about increased web traffic for free publicity is pretty believable too.

Reporters retyping stories that confirm their personal biases is believable as well, but if she meant this to further some anti-Republican agenda she went about it in an extremely roundabout way. First, you'd have to think that adult women choosing to solicit sugardaddies is a bad thing, then you'd have to think that Republicans caused the shutdown.

As a side note, you keep asking for proof that this is happening, but what the stories actually say is "[Seekingarrangement] says" and "[Whatsyourprice] reports". So the story is factual, even if the phenomena isn't. The reporters covered their asses.


You explained all that much better than I. I need some coffee and some ibuprofen.
 
2013-10-07 07:57:23 PM  
$3,000 a month is a lot to pay just to sleep with my friends' daughters.  But then again, I'm not sleeping with any of them now so maybe it is worth it.
 
2013-10-07 10:23:33 PM  

skozlaw: Thirty six percent. It's getting better. More people are saving, too.

Well... it WAS getting better. And people WERE saving more


The Braintrust that is the FarkLibs will surely point out to you that nobody should save money - it hurts the economy and that we are best off when people spend every penny.  When it comes to retirement, well that is what government programs are for.

meyerkev: wall of text

You need to find a way to cut expenses out of your life - or generate extra income.  If you're playing roulette with credit card balances, you're a small emergency away from complete financial meltdown.  Even if it is something crap like day labor on the weekend or part-time work, having $500 under the mattress can turn an emergency into a nuisance.
 
2013-10-07 11:13:11 PM  

o5iiawah: meyerkev: wall of text

You need to find a way to cut expenses out of your life - or generate extra income.  If you're playing roulette with credit card balances, you're a small emergency away from complete financial meltdown.  Even if it is something crap like day labor on the weekend or part-time work, having $500 under the mattress can turn an emergency into a nuisance.


So basically I was doing some stupid stuff.

1) Acquire $40K in debt.  Pay $11K of it off in 4 months.
2) As a result of number 1, be totally completely broke because you're taking extra money and dumping it into loans.  This is not a cashflow issue, it's a "deliberately by choice not having money right now since having money costs you interest" issue.  And yes, this was stupid.  Saved me about $200 in interest though.
3) shiat happens.  Namely, your month-to-month landlord stops being month-to-month and kicks you out.  Blow through $4K in paychecks as fast as they show up and add $5K in zero-interest debt between security deposits, extra rent, higher rent, a full month's rent until you can get a roommate (and that was a paycheck right there), deposits on utilities because you have NO credit history, furniture, etc, etc, etc.  (This is June)
4) More shiat happens.  2 Car crashes.  Eat $1K in insurance deductibles.
5) Just as I start to kind of recover, more shiat happens.  Ride bike under parked car.  Eat $1800 in medical bills (and since I haven't seen a doctor in 3 years, tack on a couple extra grand over the next few months while I use this as an excuse to go through my stack of built-up medical problems one by one).
6) Luckily, the IRS sends me a check for $2500 because I screwed up my 2011 tax return.  Yay.  I go from completely farked with a maxed-out credit card to paycheck to paycheck again.

So I blew through about $10K in cash in the course of 4 months.  Luckily, I was able to turn most of that into 0-interest debt and pay off the rest with the spare paychecks.  And thus October is the first month where I won't be carrying a balance on my credit card when the spare paycheck arrives since April.

/And despite all that bullshiat, I still managed to pay off ~$10K in debt this year.  Huzzah for CS degrees, I guess.
 
2013-10-08 02:09:23 AM  

meyerkev: So basically I was doing some stupid stuff.

1) Acquire $40K in debt.  Pay $11K of it off in 4 months.
2) As a result of number 1, be totally completely broke because you're taking extra money and dumping it into loans.  This is not a cashflow issue, it's a "deliberately by choice not having money right now since having money costs you interest" issue.  And yes, this was stupid.  Saved me about $200 in interest though.
3) shiat happens.  Namely, your month-to-month landlord stops being month-to-month and kicks you out.  Blow through $4K in paychecks as fast as they show up and add $5K in zero-interest debt between security deposits, extra rent, higher rent, a full month's rent until you can get a roommate (and that was a paycheck right there), deposits on utilities because you have NO credit history, furniture, etc, etc, etc.  (This is June)
4) More shiat happens.  2 Car crashes.  Eat $1K in insurance deductibles.
5) Just as I start to kind of recover, more shiat happens.  Ride bike under parked car.  Eat $1800 in medical bills (and since I haven't seen a doctor in 3 years, tack on a couple extra grand over the next few months while I use this as an excuse to go through my stack of built-up medical problems one by one).
6) Luckily, the IRS sends me a check for $2500 because I screwed up my 2011 tax return.  Yay.  I go from completely farked with a maxed-out credit card to paycheck to paycheck again.

So I blew through about $10K in cash in the course of 4 months.  Luckily, I was able to turn most of that into 0-interest debt and pay off the rest with the spare paychecks.  And thus Octob ...


sounds stressful.
 
2013-10-08 06:30:52 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Would not a whore by any other name still be a Washington courtesan?


King Lear?
 
2013-10-08 09:33:45 AM  

RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

I'm confused, is Daily Caller trying to push a feminism agenda or not?  If not, then why is Daily Caller not pushing the agenda while NPR is pushing the agenda when they publish the same press release.  Yes, this is bullshiat journalism, but if you're going to pretend it's politically motivated bullshiat, you'll have to provide some evidence and, more importantly, an explanation why a news outlet reporting the same non-story as a conservative outlet is pushing a liberal agenda.  Again, I agree it's bullshiat but I disagree that it's pushing an agenda.

You are confused because I never said it was a political agenda,


"The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men. "

That certainly sounds as if you are saying it is a political agenda.
 
2013-10-08 11:49:07 AM  

stevetherobot: RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: llortcM_yllort: RoyBatty: Krieghund: RoyBatty: This is a bullshiat article by one of NPR's more agenda driven feminist reporters.

I'm confused, is Daily Caller trying to push a feminism agenda or not?  If not, then why is Daily Caller not pushing the agenda while NPR is pushing the agenda when they publish the same press release.  Yes, this is bullshiat journalism, but if you're going to pretend it's politically motivated bullshiat, you'll have to provide some evidence and, more importantly, an explanation why a news outlet reporting the same non-story as a conservative outlet is pushing a liberal agenda.  Again, I agree it's bullshiat but I disagree that it's pushing an agenda.

You are confused because I never said it was a political agenda,

"The underlying strategy is to make Republican's seem even worse of course since they are driving women to paid sexual arrangements with men. "

That certainly sounds as if you are saying it is a political agenda.


You're right. Let me clarify that. It's *her* agenda, not NPR's agenda per se.

I have no evidence of course as to what goes on in Elise Hu's head. I'll just say that I listen to NPR constantly, it's probably what's on my radio if you're going to randomly sample my radio, and that's what "impresses" me about Elise Hu. She's a crappy reporter who doesn't hesitate to let her own agenda into the stories she covers.

I think you can deduce that in term of answering the question:

a) Elise Hu is a Harvard Nieman award winning journalist and
b) Elise Hu must know that Press Release journalism is shiatty journalism, and
c) Elise Hu must know that phony trend journalism is shiatty journalism and
d) Elise Hu must understand that SeekingArrangment as a dating site can only benefit from her uncritical reporting from their press release and that dating sites are notorious for pumping up statistics and so

Why would Elise Hu, award winning, NPR reporter file such a shiatty report?

I think the reasonable answers are:

a) She is actually a shiatty reporter (except she is employed by NPR...)
b) Filing that report gets her down to happy hour sooner (but that says she is a lazy and shiatty reporter)
c) It fits her agenda
 
2013-10-08 01:18:58 PM  

RoyBatty: Why would Elise Hu, award winning, NPR reporter file such a shiatty report?

I think the reasonable answers are:

a) She is actually a shiatty reporter (except she is employed by NPR...)
b) Filing that report gets her down to happy hour sooner (but that says she is a lazy and shiatty reporter)
c) It fits her agenda


d) her SeekingArrangement profile hasn't gotten any hits and she needs to drive traffic to the site
 
2013-10-08 05:01:24 PM  
Financial pressures aside, I could see the current situation creating an up-tick in illicit or unethical/immoral behavior because an otherwise "good" person could take a look at how screwed they've been through no fault or wrongdoing of their own, and the blame lies with their lawmakers, and they could just say "well, doing the right thing didn't work, so why not?"
 
2013-10-08 09:10:00 PM  

monoski: Heard fun saying on NPR today from a divorce lawyer; A man is not a financial plan


My mother told me that when I was 12. She'd introduced me to a cousin of hers who was a young widow. Her sister was a young widow, too. Mom said, "You could meet the nicest guy in the world and he can drop dead on you. Finish college and get a job. "

Yes, Mom.
 
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