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2013-10-07 10:13:20 AM
10 votes:
If you convince yourself the race you were born into is that damn special, you probably have nothing else in your life worth celebrating.
2013-10-07 09:26:30 AM
9 votes:
I really wish we as a society would just ignore these shiat-for-brains defectives.  Don't take their pictures, don't interview them, don't acknowledge they exist.  They aren't worth the time it takes to move our eyeballs in their direction.
2013-10-07 09:50:48 AM
5 votes:

Coco LaFemme: I really wish we as a society would just ignore these shiat-for-brains defectives.  Don't take their pictures, don't interview them, don't acknowledge they exist.  They aren't worth the time it takes to move our eyeballs in their direction.


Well, law enforcement should. Because they engage in a lot of drug abuse and trafficking, gun smuggling, child abuse, spousal abuse, rape of all kinds, fraud, forgery, assault, organized crime, petty theft, grand larceny, extortion, welfare fraud, tax evasion, unauthorized practice of law, environmental code violations, incest, bigamy... oh yeah and ginning up racial hatred.
2013-10-07 09:48:01 AM
5 votes:
This picture really says it all, doesn't it?
i.dailymail.co.uk
2013-10-07 10:18:16 AM
4 votes:

Englebert Slaptyback: 'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'


Really? I didn't see any of these in TFA. The nicest least bad dwelling was still made of concrete blocks and treated lumber. All the rest were strongly indicative of lower economic class.


True but consider this, would wealthier people have allowed him to take pictures of themselves?  The type of people shown in the pictures would have appeared on Jerry Springer for the attention, the wealthier bunch, no.
2013-10-07 09:54:31 AM
4 votes:
This is just sad.  All she will know is the hate that she is taught.  Her shoes are on the wrong feet also...

i.dailymail.co.uk
2013-10-07 10:36:48 AM
3 votes:
From the article:

'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'

      No there f*cking isn't.  ANYONE who hold beliefs of superiority based on ethnicity, social status, sexual orientation, etc. is demonstrating they make simple emotional decisions, not intelligent ones.

Perhaps the media could focus on people who are actually intelligent, folks who are making our society inclusive and a better place for all.

F*ck these hillbillies.
2013-10-07 10:35:29 AM
3 votes:

cowsspinach: This is so surreal for me to read. The 1960's wasn't that long ago and it still blows my mind that stuff like that happened.


Dude, I'VE seen a clan rally and I'm in my 20's.  It still happens in the south pretty frequently.  Portland had a nazi problem in the 90's.  There are roving bands of skinheads in Long Beach to this day.  There was a church bombing in new york in the early 2000s that was racially motivated.  It shouldn't "blow your mind" it happened 50 years ago, it should be amazing people aren't still actively fighting this.
2013-10-07 09:49:58 AM
3 votes:

Burr: Joe Peanut: This picture really says it all, doesn't it?
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He couldn't find the fly swatter


And the Dora the Explorer chair just adds to the story...
2013-10-07 03:49:42 PM
2 votes:

Oldiron_79: Why is it that {insert a race} supremicists are always the worst examples of said race?


Because it's only when you have completely bottomed out in all the normal categories where people legitimately compare and rank themselves that you begin to feel it's necessary that you must, simply by virtue of being you, be better than somebody else.
2013-10-07 12:23:43 PM
2 votes:
Bad, stupid people.
2013-10-07 12:20:15 PM
2 votes:

Third rate whore in Toronto: They may light the darkness, but their thought and minds are full of darkness.  Outside of time and out of place. They live in twilight zone, not 21st. century.  It's reassuring to know their numbers are down.  Even the present Pope is more enlightened.


Its always quietest before the storm.  The shutdown is mere showmanship, the real shiat will start when we default on the debt and the market freaks the fark out.
2013-10-07 12:07:27 PM
2 votes:

badscooter: So you didn't look at the web site, yet you saw the noose tattoo in the picture on the web site you didn't see at work?


The photo in question is in this thread.
2013-10-07 11:09:26 AM
2 votes:

Aidan: DeathCipris: The photojournalist has a really cool site. http://www.anthonykaren.com/
Has pictures missing from the article and other groups/locations like Mogadishu, WBC, and White Nationalists/Skin heads.
Really interesting stuff.

These are very cool. Thanks for finding the site!

I'm looking through the white nationalists, and they just look... Normal. Kind of dumb, but normal. The KKK stuff looks much more like poverty than racism (as many have said). The white nationalists look more middle-class.


I actually noticed the same thing. They still have an air of a prison gang, but don't look destitute like the KKK pictures.
2013-10-07 11:02:02 AM
2 votes:

cowsspinach: I must live under a rock. I've never witnessed such things and it's just so...creepy.


My high school had a diverse make up.  It was in a small town that had a pretty good University for some odd reason.  Because of this, we had the best school system in the area.  We had doctors and professors kids, so we had some foreign (mostly from India, but I think we had a few Asian students as well) kids.  But, we were also located next to a cornfield, so you had farmers kids (like me) and poor rural kids as well.  There was a group of kids who had the jacked up trucks with the rebel flags and the clothing to match.  While I think most of it was just for shock value, there were a few "true racists" that walked the halls.

I was kind of caught up in the mix of all this.  I was a good student (was always on the honor roll) so I took the more advanced classes with the kids that had educated parents, but I also took vocational agriculture so i was in there with some of the racists (who weren't really from families of farmers, but thought they could be because they lived in a trailer next to a farm or something).  I'm just glad my parents were more educated and weren't from a lineage of hate for hates sake.

/you know how hard it is to make friends when you are a smart computer geek who lives on a farm (and loves the fact that he lives on a farm)?
2013-10-07 11:01:20 AM
2 votes:
The photojournalist has a really cool site. http://www.anthonykaren.com/
Has pictures missing from the article and other groups/locations like Mogadishu, WBC, and White Nationalists/Skin heads.
Really interesting stuff.
Ant
2013-10-07 11:01:06 AM
2 votes:

New Age Redneck: From the article:

'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'

      No there f*cking isn't.  ANYONE who hold beliefs of superiority based on ethnicity, social status, sexual orientation, etc. is demonstrating they make simple emotional decisions, not intelligent ones.

Perhaps the media could focus on people who are actually intelligent, folks who are making our society inclusive and a better place for all.

F*ck these hillbillies.


Intellect can be used to reinforce stupid beliefs. Don't get all comfy, thinking that all assholes with shiatty hateful beliefs are a bunch of slack-jawed morons.
2013-10-07 10:30:56 AM
2 votes:

topcon: It's not all that astonishing, really.  I'm sure any number of poor Appalachian / southern houses and families look exactly the same, minus the KKK regalia.


Guess we better get used to that. America used to have a War on Poverty, now we're just eliminating the middle class and not in a good way.
2013-10-07 10:14:44 AM
2 votes:

Mr. Right: Obama's Reptiloid Master: Coco LaFemme: I really wish we as a society would just ignore these shiat-for-brains defectives.  Don't take their pictures, don't interview them, don't acknowledge they exist.  They aren't worth the time it takes to move our eyeballs in their direction.

Well, law enforcement should. Because they engage in a lot of drug abuse and trafficking, gun smuggling, child abuse, spousal abuse, rape of all kinds, fraud, forgery, assault, organized crime, petty theft, grand larceny, extortion, welfare fraud, tax evasion, unauthorized practice of law, environmental code violations, incest, bigamy... oh yeah and ginning up racial hatred.

Since I am diametrically opposed to everything the Klan stands for, I'm not trying to White Knight them here but is there any evidence that they commit the crimes you've listed at any greater rate than the general population, given the areas in which they typically live?


Yes, at least as regards the organized crime/trafficking aspect. The various Klans are all security threat groups and often have multiple ex-con members. In this way they're no different than any other gang.

As compared to the population of gang members as a whole? No; gang member is gang member, no matter the affiliation.
2013-10-07 10:01:53 AM
2 votes:

topcon: It's not all that astonishing, really.  I'm sure any number of poor Appalachian / southern houses and families look exactly the same, minus the KKK regalia.


Yup.  Most of that isn't Klan, per se, so much as rural low-income.

For the most part, they are just like their neighbors apart from the loud-extreme-racism-as-a-lifestyle-choice.
2013-10-07 06:41:27 PM
1 votes:

I Browse: DROxINxTHExWIND: From the posts that I normally read here, I'm suprised there isn't more Klan support in this thread.
I initially wondered the same thing, but it kind of makes sense that the usual Fark Klavern isn't in this thread. Most of them don't see themselves as one of these kinds of racists (easily mocked, walking stereotypes, overt in their hatred). They see themselves as "realists" who speak the obvious truth that others are simply too scared (see: politically correct) to say aloud.


These racists look eegnorant. We don't have anybody like that around here. Fark racists are more enlightened.
2013-10-07 06:38:29 PM
1 votes:

craigdamage: In exactly what way have these people's lives been impacted by Jews, blacks and gays?


Well, because all of those demographics tend to vote for politicians who strongly believe in a good public educational system, and the greatest threat to the continuity of the Klan is making sure their kids have access to excellent public education. MA has test scores on par with the highest scoring countries like Finland. MS has test scores on par with a shiatty third world country, like Trinidad and Tobago. Guess which state has a much higher percentage of the populace in the Klan?
2013-10-07 05:18:24 PM
1 votes:

JH3675: cowsspinach: This is so surreal for me to read. The 1960's wasn't that long ago and it still blows my mind that stuff like that happened.

In about '95-'96 my grandparents lived on the edge of the Orlando Metro area.  Still within an area I would call urban/suburban but drive any farther east and there was a whole lot of not shiat until Titusville.  An area of their subdivision had been cleared for building, but then closed off and allowed to grow over.  On more than one occasion neighbors had to call the cops to stop clan rallies, and my grandfather even took 8-year old me back there to show me the partially burned cross and explain how evil these people are.  This sort of thing lasted well past the 60's and happened in disturbingly close to areas most people would not associate with that kind of mindset.

https://www.google.com/#q=28.559817%2C-81.263028


Bring it up to 2010 and somewhat west of there, in a place called Manasota Key, a little west of Naples. My ex and I were driving there to visit his parents and we passed a tree with a charming "N*ggers go home" sign tied with barbed wire. He was familiar with the area and therefore unsurprised. We played a game the whole week where we would highfive everytime we managed to spot a person of color. We highfived once. A guy at winn dixie gathering the carts.
2013-10-07 04:32:03 PM
1 votes:

Aidan: Canada's racist history is "this happened a really long time ago and we don't do this anymore" (although we probably do),


cough, treatment-of-First-Nations, cough

/Canadian
//really sad about that
2013-10-07 04:27:01 PM
1 votes:

EmmaLou: Plus, her dad was white, so she's cool.


They don't believe in "race mixing" though.
2013-10-07 04:25:20 PM
1 votes:

Englebert Slaptyback: Really? I didn't see any of these in TFA. The nicest least bad dwelling was still made of concrete blocks and treated lumber. All the rest were strongly indicative of lower economic class.


Agreed. Makes a lot of sense to me (but it's sad) that poor, uneducated people suffer the most in the post-industrial US economy (see Hanna Rosen's The End of Men) and blame immigration/minorities/whoever instead of huge corporations run by old white dudes. Perhaps there are some very cynical rich people in the Klan, taking advantage of the desperation of poverty. You know, like the Republican party.

Also, the Dora the Explorer chair is amazing. That's some cognitive dissonance, there!
2013-10-07 04:03:42 PM
1 votes:

stpickrell: Magorn: fireclown: CSB time:  Frederick, Maryland was festooned with Klan fliers yesterday AM.  They were in plastic baggies, to protect them from the elements, and put under windshield wipers for about four blocks around Baker park.  I think they might have been put there by KKK protesters who didn't get to protest at Gettysburg, which is about 15 miles north.

I took a pic on my phone, might post it later.

/effing Klan jerkwads.

We Don't call that "fredneck, MD" for nothing you know

Frederick City is pretty progressive/liberal. Frederick County, on the other hand, is pretty red, and Thurmont (former home of many KKK types) is a place I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable in, what with being a liberal Democrat and all.


Used to have some good friends up in Thurmont, our dads were co-workers and we loved to visit cause got to do things like go shooting on his land when we went to visit  ( a past-time that came to an end the day several large heavily armed men emerged from the woods near our impromptu can shooting range.   That was the day my dad's friend, a retired navy captain, found out that his property bordered Camp David on one side and the Secret Service would like it a whole lot if we stopped randomly shooting guns nearby for some reason.   Thurmont seemed a lovely quaint kind of place back then, but recent years have made it clear it is also a local bation of the Klan
2013-10-07 03:50:05 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: From the posts that I normally read here, I'm suprised there isn't more Klan support in this thread.



I initially wondered the same thing, but it kind of makes sense that the usual Fark Klavern isn't in this thread. Most of them don't see themselves as one of these kinds of racists (easily mocked, walking stereotypes, overt in their hatred). They see themselves as "realists" who speak the obvious truth that others are simply too scared (see: politically correct) to say aloud.

For a long time, I wondered why internet posters would spout blatantly racist and bigoted views...yet they'd completely disavow racism, and they'd push back hard whenever anyone labeled them as a racist or a bigot. It didn't make sense to me. But after reading hundreds and hundreds of these kinds of posts...I get it now.

If they admit to being racist, they know that people will just write off their opinions as racist tripe (i.e. "of course you'd say that; you're an admitted racist"). But if they fervently maintain a veneer of objectivity, then their opinions can't be dismissed. And anyone who challenges them is simply living in denial or arguing against facts. It gives them bulletproof cover to be as much of an asshole as they'd like to be, yet still claim the moral high ground.
2013-10-07 02:51:29 PM
1 votes:
Several years ago, I was riding some backroads on my motorcycle and drove by what was obviously some sort of white power gathering. Odd flags with crosses. They looked surprisingly spooked by my appearance. Still gives me the shivers.
2013-10-07 02:09:22 PM
1 votes:
In exactly what way have these people's lives been impacted by Jews, blacks and gays?
2013-10-07 01:32:16 PM
1 votes:
Fade2black:
No, i have no problem with Liberals picking on the Klan. But you have to show just as much levity on the other side when a bunch of thugs shoot each other. According to a Liberal, the White guys are disgusting, the thugs are a victim of the system. Can't have it both ways. A little equality in your disgust is what most ask for.

Luckily I'm not one to cower away when you use the Race card to scare me off. Just because I point out crime on both sides of the color spectrum; it doesn't make me racist. It makes you look like the ignorant trash because god forbid we shouldn't give you 10 minutes so you can hate on the KKK (again, wow...makes you guys so hardcore on such an easy target that is obviously a symbol of ignorance and hate).



I don't call you a racist to make you "cower", it was an observation. In threads about black criminals there is no limit to the number of clowns such as yourself making comments about blacks predisposition to crime and our "culture". No one is in the thread saying, "b-b-but, the Klan does it too". You're looking for equality in our opinions but you are the only one throwing off the balance, champ. Don't worry about what I look like. you should be more concerned with how you appear to the average lurker who is seeing you vigorously defend the rights of the Klan to be backwards dumbasses by arguing that there are blacks who commit crimes and complaining that Fark isn't racist enough for you.
2013-10-07 12:54:26 PM
1 votes:

Latinwolf: Englebert Slaptyback: 'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'


Really? I didn't see any of these in TFA. The nicest least bad dwelling was still made of concrete blocks and treated lumber. All the rest were strongly indicative of lower economic class.

True but consider this, would wealthier people have allowed him to take pictures of themselves?  The type of people shown in the pictures would have appeared on Jerry Springer for the attention, the wealthier bunch, no.


There are "wealthy" groups of all kinds, KKK included. Money doesn't make you sophisticated, intellectual or spiritual.

As an aside....what does ANY group hope to gain with dress, flag or paint? I'm talking to you nationalists, sports team enthusiasts and those who stridently differentiate yourself by dots on your forehead, hijabs, or crosses around your necks.

The problem is we focus on the difference, not the similarity, and proceed to one up the other. Which only leads to destruction of one team, survival of the other. It's interesting how we go to great lengths to manufacture "differences" and rivalries between, say, Kansas and Missouri football teams. Those kids are all the same. But we gotta have a RIVAL, don't we, to fulfill those urges. Pretend war. I do enjoy the tailgates, though...
2013-10-07 12:28:24 PM
1 votes:

Fade2black: Obama's Reptiloid Master: Coco LaFemme: I really wish we as a society would just ignore these shiat-for-brains defectives.  Don't take their pictures, don't interview them, don't acknowledge they exist.  They aren't worth the time it takes to move our eyeballs in their direction.

Well, law enforcement should. Because they engage in a lot of drug abuse and trafficking, gun smuggling, child abuse, spousal abuse, rape of all kinds, fraud, forgery, assault, organized crime, petty theft, grand larceny, extortion, welfare fraud, tax evasion, unauthorized practice of law, environmental code violations, incest, bigamy... oh yeah and ginning up racial hatred.

You just described the entire thug culture in Detroit, too.  Congratulations, retard.

/well, except for the incest



So, leave the Klan alone because...Detroit? I guess they don't teach logic at Bob Jones University.
2013-10-07 12:20:45 PM
1 votes:
CSB time:

Sometime back around 1999 when my wife and I were first dating she was working at a mid-sized employment law firm in Birmingham, Alabama.  One of her white clients called her in a panic mid day on a Thursday because the client had just learned that her good-for-nothin' son had told the local Klavern they could hold a cross-burnin' that weekend on land the family owned in Chilton County (Chilton County puts the RED in redneck).

My wife agreed to go down that afternoon and file papers in the county courthouse to enjoin them from performing the cross burning.  As she was packing up to leave the owner of the firm she worked for (a black Yankee) came out with his briefcase and announced he'd be riding down with her in case she needed protection.  She then had to politely decline and tell him that I was on my way to drive her down and had just bought new ammo for my pistol, so she felt she would be fine.  To this day I'm not sure if he realized what he was offering to do was the opposite of helping.
2013-10-07 12:18:51 PM
1 votes:

badscooter: Sorry. Overlooked that.


No problem.  I work in a rather open office, and I would rather not have to take time to explain to anyone passing by why I'm looking at a web page with pictures of people in KKK outfits in it.
2013-10-07 12:15:19 PM
1 votes:

gnosis301: badscooter: So you didn't look at the web site, yet you saw the noose tattoo in the picture on the web site you didn't see at work?

The photo in question is in this thread.


Sorry. Overlooked that.
2013-10-07 11:52:12 AM
1 votes:

blatz514: I've come fer your daughter, Chuck..err, Tom

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Nathan Robb (on the left) once drove me and me friends up to the Missouri state line to buy booze when I was under 21.  He acknowledged his dad was in the Klan and he was a part of it, too.  He listened to rap music and spoke of how the Klan was a moderate organization now.  They did things like lobby Congress to have the bonus points you get on your SAT for being a minority done away with.  I did get the distinct feeling I was getting the full salesman treatment, though.

/CSB
2013-10-07 11:47:52 AM
1 votes:

btraz70: The 1%
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The son-in-law looks awfully...it looks like he'd enjoys authentic Mexican food is all I'm saying.
2013-10-07 11:41:45 AM
1 votes:
The 1%
img.fark.net
2013-10-07 11:22:10 AM
1 votes:

Kraftwerk Orange: Digitalstrange: and it's odd, I've lived in SC most of my 42 years and never seen a Cross burning except in movies.

Been here in SC since the '70s and have never seen or even heard of one happening, either.  I always figured they must happen in poor rural areas that weren'tfull of African-Americans, because rural SC certainly is.


Anderson.  It happens in Anderson.  Western portion of the state, just a stone's throw south of Greenville.  County of Anderson, not city.  Hell, drive out on highway 25 towards Clemson and stop at the "Dixie Outpost" store.  You can probably pick up flyers to get recruited.

Also, I'm guessing you might get gathering or two in what I call the "Central Nothing".  When you're headed to Columbia and there is nothing but trees for about an hour on either side of lexington county, that's the "Central Nothing".
2013-10-07 11:17:02 AM
1 votes:

Digitalstrange: and it's odd, I've lived in SC most of my 42 years and never seen a Cross burning except in movies.


Been here in SC since the '70s and have never seen or even heard of one happening, either.  I always figured they must happen in poor rural areas that weren'tfull of African-Americans, because rural SC certainly is.
2013-10-07 11:08:20 AM
1 votes:
and it's odd, I've lived in SC most of my 42 years and never seen a Cross burning except in movies.
2013-10-07 11:04:33 AM
1 votes:

DeathCipris: The photojournalist has a really cool site. http://www.anthonykaren.com/
Has pictures missing from the article and other groups/locations like Mogadishu, WBC, and White Nationalists/Skin heads.
Really interesting stuff.


These are very cool. Thanks for finding the site!

I'm looking through the white nationalists, and they just look... Normal. Kind of dumb, but normal. The KKK stuff looks much more like poverty than racism (as many have said). The white nationalists look more middle-class.
2013-10-07 10:59:36 AM
1 votes:

OldManDownDRoad: Wow, no shiate? My Uncle Pete was Pete Allen, originally from Farmville - but there are a ton of Allens in that area...

The strange thing about rural eastern NC is that the people either tended to be really nice (my mother's family) or total rednecks, like Uncle Pete.

I don't miss Uncle Pete at all but I sure miss Aunt Dorothy's lemon squares at family meals . . .

/howdy, cuz


Nope, and some geography lessons made it a bigger no.  My uncle pete was out of Texas and somehow tied in with Alamo Car Rentals.  He was freaking LOADED (he did own a gas station, though).  Also, I was thinking Greenville, SC (should have checked) and my mother's side of the family was from somewhere around Salem, NC.

Aunt Judi's Mac and Cheese is thankfully still present at family gatherings.  It's funny how people in the Carolina's work out like that.  You got those two types of people, the UNC people, and the mountain folk.
2013-10-07 10:57:59 AM
1 votes:
Burr:
The thing is, Is I don't even live in "the south", I live just North if I-70 in eastern Ohio.  I drive about 20 miles west and I go from Appalachia to the Midwest.

Heh - I'm familiar with that area. One of my close college pals was from Belpre, Ohio - across the river from Parkersburgh WV. We drove up to visit his family a couple times, typical college road trip. And it was indeed a trip. He had relatives who lived in converted barns along creek bottoms who still did things like gather ginseng and work seasonal jobs for a living. Literally so far down the hollow they couldn't get TV signals and listened mostly to ham radio and police scanners for entertainment.
2013-10-07 10:56:28 AM
1 votes:

Burr: Burr: Joe Peanut: This picture really says it all, doesn't it?
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He couldn't find the fly swatter

And the Dora the Explorer chair just adds to the story...


I hadn't noticed that. Good catch. Definitely odd that they would have merchandise from a show that promotes multiculturalism openly
2013-10-07 10:50:26 AM
1 votes:

mike_d85: cowsspinach: This is so surreal for me to read. The 1960's wasn't that long ago and it still blows my mind that stuff like that happened.

Dude, I'VE seen a clan rally and I'm in my 20's.  It still happens in the south pretty frequently.  Portland had a nazi problem in the 90's.  There are roving bands of skinheads in Long Beach to this day.  There was a church bombing in new york in the early 2000s that was racially motivated.  It shouldn't "blow your mind" it happened 50 years ago, it should be amazing people aren't still actively fighting this.


I must live under a rock. I've never witnessed such things and it's just so...creepy.
2013-10-07 10:48:39 AM
1 votes:

Tyrosine: FTA: The unassuming nature of the pictures has led to accusations that his work gives the Klan publicity, a claim he strongly refutes.

All but one of those photos did nothing but reenforce beliefs I already held about the KKK.

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And just a bit of advice for cousin Geech here before Suzzabelle and Lulu loose there eyesight (or what's left of their teeth) from a bad ricochet (or more likely a blind drunk accidental shooting). If you have roaches you might want to consider cleaning up that shiathole you call a house as a first step toward getting rid of them rather than breaking out a pellet gun.


I just noticed the Dora the Explorer backpack or poster in the background.  That makes for an interesting twist.
2013-10-07 10:48:18 AM
1 votes:

Burr: OldManDownDRoad: The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.

This was in the mid-late 80's.  I think I might have saw two or three in the same spot before the baseball field was torn down and a distribution warehouse was built on it. My grandfather (Korean War vet) wanted to go over and ask them "what was going on" (just for the experience, he was crazy like that) but my mom didn't stop.


Wow, that recent? Well, kinda recent. Things have really changed in that area. I used to work construction down at Atlantic Beach (early 70s) with guys who drove every day from places like Vanceboro and Bayboro, because there were just no jobs to be had. They were a pretty redneck crew, sometimes showed up stinking drunk on Monday morning after drinking all weekend. There are few things in life that smell as bad as a redneck sweating out cheap whiskey.

But I do feel a little sorry for them. The economic boom brought on by the development along the rivers, plus the growth of ECU and the development of Farmville around such things as the brewery, have not really benefited these guys. Occasionally I'll hear from one of them and it's the same story - just that now they can't afford the taxes on their rundown place, and all the local jobs are still minimum wage. Every now and then someone will post a photo to Facebook of some party or reunion and these guys look TERRIBLE, a lifetime of crap food, cheap booze, and bottom-rung jobs.
2013-10-07 10:45:43 AM
1 votes:

cowsspinach: This is so surreal for me to read. The 1960's wasn't that long ago and it still blows my mind that stuff like that happened.


I feel the same way. Canada's racist history is "this happened a really long time ago and we don't do this anymore" (although we probably do), so coming down here and learning about sundown towns and all sorts of weird extremely petty racist things people have done and figuring out that they happened not THAT long ago is seriously unnerving.
2013-10-07 10:43:05 AM
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Burr: OldManDownDRoad: The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.

This was in the mid-late 80's.  I think I might have saw two or three in the same spot before the baseball field was torn down and a distribution warehouse was built on it. My grandfather (Korean War vet) wanted to go over and ask them "what was going on" (just for the experience, he was crazy like that) but my mom didn't stop.


The thing is, Is I don't even live in "the south", I live just North if I-70 in eastern Ohio.  I drive about 20 miles west and I go from Appalachia to the Midwest.
2013-10-07 10:42:37 AM
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Coco LaFemme: I really wish we as a society would just ignore these shiat-for-brains defectives.  Don't take their pictures, don't interview them, don't acknowledge they exist.  They aren't worth the time it takes to move our eyeballs in their direction.


Toledo a few years ago. The Klan said they were going to come and march. Cancelled the day of for lack of participation. Guess what happened? People started rioting because the Klan was marching. If they had ignored it, it all would have gone away.
2013-10-07 10:40:31 AM
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Latinwolf


True but consider this, would wealthier people have allowed him to take pictures of themselves? The type of people shown in the pictures would have appeared on Jerry Springer for the attention, the wealthier bunch, no.


Okay, but the author shouldn't try to establish the all-walks-of-life angle in the beginning and then focus solely on Cletus and Brandeen the rest of the time. If there were upper-class folks involved and interviewed the author could have said so and explained why they weren't in TFA.
I suspect he was trying not to say that the klan is the domain of the poor white bumpkin.
2013-10-07 10:40:12 AM
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Englebert Slaptyback: 'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'


Really? I didn't see any of these in TFA. The nicest least bad dwelling was still made of concrete blocks and treated lumber. All the rest were strongly indicative of lower economic class.


Even worse, they had 2-liter bottles of carbonated beverages just sitting outside on the window sill.

I say the following as someone born and raised in Indiana, with half my family from Tennessee, and I currently live in Texas: Do KKK family trees EVER fork?
2013-10-07 10:40:10 AM
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OldManDownDRoad: The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.


This was in the mid-late 80's.  I think I might have saw two or three in the same spot before the baseball field was torn down and a distribution warehouse was built on it. My grandfather (Korean War vet) wanted to go over and ask them "what was going on" (just for the experience, he was crazy like that) but my mom didn't stop.
2013-10-07 10:38:45 AM
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mike_d85: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x480]

And THAT, ladies and gents, is progress for women's equality in rural america.


I think I have problems with that on several levels.
Did she give him the shiner? That's a Klan Veil? That's real?
2013-10-07 10:36:49 AM
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mike_d85: OldManDownDRoad:

The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.

Wow, that must have been a regular event back then.  My mom has the same story, but driving back to Greenville.  Coincidentally, I also had a racist Uncle Pete whose wife left him (my actual aunt by blood).  I don't know whether we should hang out or expect to see each other at a family reunion.


Wow, no shiate? My Uncle Pete was Pete Allen, originally from Farmville - but there are a ton of Allens in that area. I'm not sure how he was related to my mother, who was from Farmville as well. Her family moved to Greenville in the late 40s. We lived down on the coast and drove back and forth to Greenville all the time for family events on old Hwy 43, which used to run through the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that was cracker country back then. My brother was driving from ECU to Atlantic Beach one Saturday night in the mid-70s when he got stopped by a Vanceboro cop who just wanted to roust some long-hair. I had to drive from Chapel Hill in the middle of the night to throw his bail. Luckily the judge for that district was the famous Harry Whedbee, who took a dim view of redneck cops, so we didn't have to hire a lawyer to get the charges dropped and the money back.

The strange thing about rural eastern NC is that the people either tended to be really nice (my mother's family) or total rednecks, like Uncle Pete.

I don't miss Uncle Pete at all but I sure miss Aunt Dorothy's lemon squares at family meals . . .

/howdy, cuz
2013-10-07 10:32:54 AM
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Sudlow: I figure at least a third of the people in those pictures are snitches for the FBI.


They don't even own a garage.  You can ask their wives.
2013-10-07 10:31:07 AM
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OldManDownDRoad: Burr: My neighbors were alleged Klan members, I think the father was even the local grand dragon or wizard (that was the rumor).  I can't confirm this, my friend said he was visiting them (their daughter was in my grade) for some school group project and he saw all the symbols and robes in their basement, as well as a large Nazi flag.

My Uncle Pete was, we always thought, a Klansman. A real nasty piece of work, he almost got punched out by my Dad at a family funeral (!) after he made some wisecracks I didn't hear. After my Mom got Dad calmed down, Pete got into a tussle with her brother over some other crap he said. Mom had to stop inviting him to family events because he always told racist jokes and stories. All his kids ran away from home and his wife eventually left him. His gas station had three bathrooms - Men, Women, Colored. He's long dead and that gas station was torn down when Hwy-70 was four-laned south of Kinston in the early 70s. Sort of wish we had taken some photos of it since my kids don't believe it.


I also remember driving by a cross burning when I was younger, it was in the local (non-sanctioned)  youth baseball field not more then two miles from my house.

The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.


This is so surreal for me to read. The 1960's wasn't that long ago and it still blows my mind that stuff like that happened.
2013-10-07 10:29:22 AM
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gnosis301: Does the geezer have a tattoo of a noose on his back?


Yes, but for the life of me, I don't understand why.
2013-10-07 10:25:47 AM
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Does the geezer have a tattoo of a noose on his back?
2013-10-07 10:22:38 AM
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OldManDownDRoad:

The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.

Wow, that must have been a regular event back then.  My mom has the same story, but driving back to Greenville.  Coincidentally, I also had a racist Uncle Pete whose wife left him (my actual aunt by blood).  I don't know whether we should hang out or expect to see each other at a family reunion.
2013-10-07 10:18:35 AM
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OldManDownDRoad: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x478]

I'll be darned - they DO take their robes to the dry-cleaner.

And I always thought that was just a joke.


crap...you beat me.
2013-10-07 10:18:28 AM
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StreetlightInTheGhetto: If you convince yourself the race you were born into is that damn special, you probably have nothing else in your life worth celebrating.


yeah pretty much. i actually feel a bit sorry for them. i imagine they're too stupid and ineffectual to really achieve anything
2013-10-07 10:17:57 AM
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FTA: The unassuming nature of the pictures has led to accusations that his work gives the Klan publicity, a claim he strongly refutes.

All but one of those photos did nothing but reenforce beliefs I already held about the KKK.

i.dailymail.co.uk

And just a bit of advice for cousin Geech here before Suzzabelle and Lulu loose there eyesight (or what's left of their teeth) from a bad ricochet (or more likely a blind drunk accidental shooting). If you have roaches you might want to consider cleaning up that shiathole you call a house as a first step toward getting rid of them rather than breaking out a pellet gun.
2013-10-07 10:15:48 AM
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174.132.29.32
2013-10-07 10:14:56 AM
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Obviously it is better to light one cross than to curse the darkies.....
2013-10-07 10:14:24 AM
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All of these pretty much resemble the shabby homes of tweakers where I'm from. The fact that they don't even bother to tidy up for company says it all. That and the KKK robes, and ridiculous tattoos, but you know what I mean.
2013-10-07 10:14:11 AM
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His husband will beat him if he doesnt get that room cleaned up.
2013-10-07 10:12:28 AM
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Burr: My neighbors were alleged Klan members, I think the father was even the local grand dragon or wizard (that was the rumor).  I can't confirm this, my friend said he was visiting them (their daughter was in my grade) for some school group project and he saw all the symbols and robes in their basement, as well as a large Nazi flag.


My Uncle Pete was, we always thought, a Klansman. A real nasty piece of work, he almost got punched out by my Dad at a family funeral (!) after he made some wisecracks I didn't hear. After my Mom got Dad calmed down, Pete got into a tussle with her brother over some other crap he said. Mom had to stop inviting him to family events because he always told racist jokes and stories. All his kids ran away from home and his wife eventually left him. His gas station had three bathrooms - Men, Women, Colored. He's long dead and that gas station was torn down when Hwy-70 was four-laned south of Kinston in the early 70s. Sort of wish we had taken some photos of it since my kids don't believe it.


I also remember driving by a cross burning when I was younger, it was in the local (non-sanctioned)  youth baseball field not more then two miles from my house.

The last cross-burning I saw was in the mid-60s in rural Craven County, NC, outside of Vanceboro. We were driving back from some family event in Greenville and the only road to the coast was a two-lane blacktop between New Bern and Greenville. It was out in a field and I was the only one awake in the car besides Dad, who was driving. Couldn't see anyone around it, just burning in the middle of a field. "Bunch of assholes" was his only comment.
2013-10-07 10:08:45 AM
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EmmaLou


degenerate-afro: Wait. The Klan likes Dora the Explorer? What about Go Diego Go?

Dora is one of those good Mexicans, with a job who doesn't get welfare. She's legal and she can speak English. Plus, her dad was white, so she's cool.


Except according to TFA, these idiots "... advocate the seperation [sic] of the races, claiming interbreeding between ethnicities goes against God's will (religion is a key part of their beliefs).
2013-10-07 10:07:00 AM
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Burr: Joe Peanut: This picture really says it all, doesn't it?
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He couldn't find the fly swatter


How can he stand to have a Dora toy in his home.  She's a filthy Messican.

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2013-10-07 10:05:59 AM
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orclover: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x550]
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FTFA, CTRL-F "Texas", no results.  WHEW!  Least its not OUR racist inbred rednecks, this time.


I bet they all love "Duck Dynasty."
2013-10-07 10:03:26 AM
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gobbledygeekbtr.files.wordpress.com

FTFA, CTRL-F "Texas", no results.  WHEW!  Least its not OUR racist inbred rednecks, this time.
2013-10-07 10:02:59 AM
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'They live normal lives, some with stronger racial overtones than others. There is wealthy and poor, intelligent and unintelligent... just like anywhere else.'


Really? I didn't see any of these in TFA. The nicest least bad dwelling was still made of concrete blocks and treated lumber. All the rest were strongly indicative of lower economic class.
2013-10-07 10:02:47 AM
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blatz514: He must be a huge fan of Iron Maiden.  Check out the license plate!

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You shut your whore mouth. Do NOT allign the mighty Maiden with this horror. That plate was obviously from a TSP car.

/up the Irons
2013-10-07 09:58:20 AM
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Next week; a look at the secret lives of Skull and Bones members, some have included presidents, secretary of state.
2013-10-07 09:54:58 AM
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mike_d85: FTFA: He said: 'The majority of the people I've come across are no different than somebody living next door. You'd only know they were in the Klan if they decided to share that with you, had a distinguishing emblem on a tee-shirt or a racially-themed tattoo.

He SAID that, then showed you a bunch of pictures of retarded-looking rednecks in wood-paneled rooms.  Except one.  One picture had a nice family in it.


Well he didn;t shwo those, they were the pictures the article selected.

And just because the family looks "nice" doesn't mean they are.
2013-10-07 09:53:50 AM
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It's not all that astonishing, really.  I'm sure any number of poor Appalachian / southern houses and families look exactly the same, minus the KKK regalia.
2013-10-07 09:53:20 AM
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Whoa.  That's enough redneck-ness for today.
2013-10-07 09:51:53 AM
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FTA:known for its white robes with conmical hoods.

FTFY.
2013-10-07 09:51:28 AM
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FTFA: He said: 'The majority of the people I've come across are no different than somebody living next door. You'd only know they were in the Klan if they decided to share that with you, had a distinguishing emblem on a tee-shirt or a racially-themed tattoo.

He SAID that, then showed you a bunch of pictures of retarded-looking rednecks in wood-paneled rooms.  Except one.  One picture had a nice family in it.
2013-10-07 09:49:38 AM
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Joe Peanut: This picture really says it all, doesn't it?


Jesus. He looks like he walked of the set of the machinist.
2013-10-07 09:45:45 AM
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i.dailymail.co.uk

And THAT, ladies and gents, is progress for women's equality in rural america.
 
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