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(Daily Kos)   US Chamber of Commerce declares that it will back any Republican at risk of being primaried by the Tea Party if they would support the reopening of the government. Looks like Dr. Frankenstein is finally trying to stop his Monster   (dailykos.com) divider line 78
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2013-10-07 03:14:17 AM
Too late; there's too much derp.
 
2013-10-07 08:30:07 AM

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2013-10-07 08:44:38 AM
This gives me a glimmer of hope

Chamber of Commerce is an EXTREMELY influential group amongst conservative circles.

These folks really like a might fine economy, and there is nothing that will get their ass moving like a threat that could destroy it.
 
2013-10-07 08:52:34 AM
Shame that it took the bottom line to get them to wake up.  But I'll take it.
 
2013-10-07 09:01:58 AM
Was the Chamber of Commerce already on the List of GOP Enemies?
 
2013-10-07 09:13:53 AM
a positive sign -
 
2013-10-07 09:33:03 AM
FARKING FINALLY! It's about time some of these conservative groups started smacking these misbehaving puppies on the snout.
 
2013-10-07 09:33:52 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Was the Chamber of Commerce already on the List of GOP Enemies?


Everyone is on the list, including most of the GOP.
 
2013-10-07 09:34:45 AM
Well, well, well.  The Chamber of Commerce might as well be the public face of the deep-pocketed masters of the establishment GOP.

It would seem as if the establishment is making it publicly clear that the TP is to be dismantled.
 
2013-10-07 09:35:35 AM
The adults finally noticed the morons giving each other wedgies and swirlies.
 
2013-10-07 09:36:30 AM
Time to cauterize the Tea Party infection, R's

Bend over and take it.
 
2013-10-07 09:36:33 AM
Or you could just back the other pro-business party.  The Democrats.
 
2013-10-07 09:37:47 AM
We can deal with the GOP after they cleanse the infection.  Right now, it's in the interest of both parties to get the government running again.

Get your house in order, GOP.
 
2013-10-07 09:38:54 AM
Hero? The CoC is loathsome. They just happen to not be batshiat insane. Those farkers bankroll the lunatics who predictably put us in this mess.

Teahadis should be put on trial for treason and the Chamber, Koch brothers, et al. should be tried as accomplices.
 
2013-10-07 09:38:58 AM

themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.


Yep. As another GOPer put it, it's a matter of pride to them now - they can't back down, because there's no avenue for them that allows for a graceful surrender. They went all in, the betting's closed, and while the Chamber of Commerce can issue side bets all it wants, we're in play now.
 
2013-10-07 09:40:17 AM
This does not make the CofC my friend. That said, I hope they get their message across to the congressional circus.
 
2013-10-07 09:40:28 AM

FormlessOne: themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.

Yep. As another GOPer put it, it's a matter of pride to them now - they can't back down, because there's no avenue for them that allows for a graceful surrender. They went all in, the betting's closed, and while the Chamber of Commerce can issue side bets all it wants, we're in play now.


Don't forget. The GOP can still lose AND declare victory.
 
2013-10-07 09:41:48 AM

FormlessOne: themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.

Yep. As another GOPer put it, it's a matter of pride to them now - they can't back down, because there's no avenue for them that allows for a graceful surrender. They went all in, the betting's closed, and while the Chamber of Commerce can issue side bets all it wants, we're in play now.


Disagree.  The silence of the establishment GOP was taken as consent for a long time by the TP.  Now, they're not silent anymore and openly defying the lunatics and letting the world know it.  That's a big deal.

It's one thing to quietly let the sane GOP know that the CoC has their back.  It's another thing entirely to make it into a public affair for the world, and the TP, to see.

Ted Cruz is most likely freaking out right now.
 
2013-10-07 09:42:40 AM
Chamber along with the Titans of industry need to take the Tea Party and Fox News and flush them down the toilet.
 
2013-10-07 09:43:19 AM
"Heads must be exploding in the Bush family compound."

What is that supposed to mean? The Bush family, for all its faults, wouldn't be on board with what the tea party is doing to this country. Even W. Daily Kos needs to give the Bush hate a rest and keep its eye on the ball here.
 
2013-10-07 09:44:32 AM
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2013-10-07 09:44:53 AM
Run against them in elections?

Why wait? Start removing these dickheads immediately! You can get 2/3 in both Senate and House to oust Cruz and Boehner.
 
2013-10-07 09:47:02 AM
Boehner's days look to be numbered as Speaker.
 
2013-10-07 09:47:16 AM
That's so sweet of them. Mail it to the 2010 election where you and yours were all "Will no one rid me of this troublesome Ni--bong?"
 
2013-10-07 09:48:05 AM

OdradekRex: Boehner's days look to be numbered as Speaker.


I've been hearing this for a few years now.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:48 AM

Cletus C.: "Heads must be exploding in the Bush family compound."

What is that supposed to mean? The Bush family, for all its faults, wouldn't be on board with what the tea party is doing to this country. Even W. Daily Kos needs to give the Bush hate a rest and keep its eye on the ball here.


The guy really getting burned by all this is St. Reagan.  He's the one who assembled this coalition in the first place.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:55 AM

Nadie_AZ: Chamber along with the Titans of industry need to take the Tea Party and Fox News and flush them down the toilet.


And then follow them.
 
2013-10-07 09:49:39 AM
Let slip the Hoverounds of WAR!
I need some more IV drips of Diet Coke over here, STAT!
 
2013-10-07 09:49:46 AM

Nadie_AZ: OdradekRex: Boehner's days look to be numbered as Speaker.

I've been hearing this for a few years now.


Well it was a very large number. With a built-in increment.
 
2013-10-07 09:51:17 AM

FormlessOne: themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.

Yep. As another GOPer put it, it's a matter of pride to them now - they can't back down, because there's no avenue for them that allows for a graceful surrender.


There was never going to be a way out. The main goal of the Tea Party was to take down the government, and thats what their supporters told them to do... But now those members are a part of the government.

oops.

When you come to the table with the only chip you have is "complete destruction" there isn't going to be much negotiating to be found or compromise to be had.
 
2013-10-07 09:51:50 AM
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2013-10-07 09:52:09 AM

SilentStrider: Nadie_AZ: Chamber along with the Titans of industry need to take the Tea Party and Fox News and flush them down the toilet.

And then follow them.


Let them clean up the mess, then pay for it. Something they've been able to avoid for many years now.
 
2013-10-07 09:54:31 AM
So when the CoC backed candidates fail to win the Republican primaries are they going to then back the Democrat in the general election?

If not, then they can just STFU as they help create the monster.
 
2013-10-07 09:57:19 AM
Fall on your farking swords and DO YOUR GODDAMN JOB.
 
2013-10-07 09:58:05 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Was the Chamber of Commerce already on the List of GOP Enemies?


Maybe they realized their real enemy is the guys deciding who is on that list.
 
2013-10-07 09:59:23 AM

Nadie_AZ: OdradekRex: Boehner's days look to be numbered as Speaker.

I've been hearing this for a few years now.


Boehner's speakership is rather like Romney's and McCain's candidacies. No one would have Boehner as their first choice, but he's the only one (or the only one willing to subject himself to this) who satisfies just enough of everyone's concerns to be palatable.

There are Tea Party darlings and serious-type establishment Republicans, but Boehner straddles that line well enough to actually get support from both.
 
2013-10-07 10:05:43 AM
I think a private commitment would have been more effective.

The Tea Party, despite being privately funded by the Koch brothers, are against Wall Street backed politicians.

This is just a camping ad waiting to happen.
 
2013-10-07 10:06:04 AM

Dr Dreidel: There are Tea Party darlings and serious-type establishment Republicans, but Boehner straddles that line well enough to actually get support from both.


Wide stance.
 
2013-10-07 10:07:04 AM

Null Pointer: So when the CoC backed candidates fail to win the Republican primaries are they going to then back the Democrat in the general election?

If not, then they can just STFU as they help create the monster.


They might not support the Democrat, but they are just as likely to not support the Tea Party candidate either. An extreme Tea Party candidate might lose the general, and it could be 2006 all over again. In the long run, this could work well for the CoC, as it means that they could get back to electing more obedient, and less crazy, Republicans. They might be willing to sacrifice one election cycle in order to restore order to their party.

This is assuming that the Tea Party will simply crawl back to insignificant, minority status. It's had a taste of power and likes it. And it doesn't really care whether it destroys everyone else in the process.

Wow. It's the plot of Portal 2 come to life.
 
2013-10-07 10:07:57 AM

soporific: Null Pointer: So when the CoC backed candidates fail to win the Republican primaries are they going to then back the Democrat in the general election?

If not, then they can just STFU as they help create the monster.

They might not support the Democrat, but they are just as likely to not support the Tea Party candidate either. An extreme Tea Party candidate might lose the general, and it could be 2006 all over again. In the long run, this could work well for the CoC, as it means that they could get back to electing more obedient, and less crazy, Republicans. They might be willing to sacrifice one election cycle in order to restore order to their party.

This is assuming that the Tea Party will simply crawl back to insignificant, minority status. It's had a taste of power and likes it. And it doesn't really care whether it destroys everyone else in the process.

Wow. It's the plot of Portal 2 come to life.


Wheatley would be more competent at running the nation than is the Tea Party.
 
2013-10-07 10:08:19 AM

Bloody William: Fall on your farking swords and DO YOUR GODDAMN JOB.


Is their job to fall on their farking swords? If so, it would make C-SPAN more interesting now that I can't seem to find Prime Minister's Questions.

/what good is a politician that's nothing else but?
 
2013-10-07 10:09:51 AM

Zik-Zak: Bloody William: Fall on your farking swords and DO YOUR GODDAMN JOB.

Is their job to fall on their farking swords? If so, it would make C-SPAN more interesting now that I can't seem to find Prime Minister's Questions.

/what good is a politician that's nothing else but?


All I've been hearing for the past week is Congressional Republicans putting party and career above their jobs. It's about pride. It's about being worried about losing in the next election. It's about saving face. It's about everything but SERVING THE farkING COUNTRY AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.
 
2013-10-07 10:11:02 AM

Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 600x506]


Saw a Virginia "Don't Tread on Me" license plate this morning. Almost vomited all over the place. Didn't even know you could get those at the DMV. Tea party license plates??? No Democratic one's though allowed. Also they have anti-abortion specialized plates but no pro-choice ones. Backwards state.
 
2013-10-07 10:14:50 AM

Dimensio: soporific: Wow. It's the plot of Portal 2 come to life.

Wheatley would be more competent at running the nation than is the Tea Party.


No, I would argue that Wheatley is exactly as competent as the Tea Party. Which is why we might have to suck it up and ally ourselves with GLaDOS to prevent everything going critical.
 
2013-10-07 10:15:16 AM

Bloody William: SERVING


And there's the problem - is anyone in a legislative position, which is a form of leadership, really interested in  service? Jesus Christ...

/...would frown upon the practices of the Teapublicans
 
2013-10-07 10:16:54 AM
This may be the first time I've agreed with something the CoC has done.
 
2013-10-07 10:32:25 AM

themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.


I fear this, too. Unpacking a bit: The power of the GOP/Tea Party comes from the reality bubble in which its supporters live. If the establishment types start trying to support sanity, they'll just get pushed out of the bubble, not by any leaders, but by the residents. They're already trained to dismiss any source that contradicts TP dogma as "liberally biased".

So even if Rupert Murdoch himself made Fox News, the WSJ, etc. start trying to turn things around, those outlets would just get rejected, and the TPers start getting all their news from, I don't know, Brietbart, Freep, or something.
 
2013-10-07 10:33:18 AM

soporific: Null Pointer: So when the CoC backed candidates fail to win the Republican primaries are they going to then back the Democrat in the general election?

If not, then they can just STFU as they help create the monster.

They might not support the Democrat, but they are just as likely to not support the Tea Party candidate either. An extreme Tea Party candidate might lose the general, and it could be 2006 all over again. In the long run, this could work well for the CoC, as it means that they could get back to electing more obedient, and less crazy, Republicans. They might be willing to sacrifice one election cycle in order to restore order to their party.

This is assuming that the Tea Party will simply crawl back to insignificant, minority status. It's had a taste of power and likes it. And it doesn't really care whether it destroys everyone else in the process.

Wow. It's the plot of Portal 2 come to life.


Now I only want you gone
 
2013-10-07 10:33:37 AM

FormlessOne: themindiswatching: Too late; there's too much derp.

Yep. As another GOPer put it, it's a matter of pride to them now - they can't back down, because there's no avenue for them that allows for a graceful surrender. They went all in, the betting's closed, and while the Chamber of Commerce can issue side bets all it wants, we're in play now.


The GOP is used to getting us into messy pointless wars with no exit strategy and does not care about the body count (example: Iraq).
 
2013-10-07 10:36:17 AM

soporific: Null Pointer: So when the CoC backed candidates fail to win the Republican primaries are they going to then back the Democrat in the general election?

If not, then they can just STFU as they help create the monster.

They might not support the Democrat, but they are just as likely to not support the Tea Party candidate either. An extreme Tea Party candidate might lose the general, and it could be 2006 all over again. In the long run, this could work well for the CoC, as it means that they could get back to electing more obedient, and less crazy, Republicans. They might be willing to sacrifice one election cycle in order to restore order to their party.

This is assuming that the Tea Party will simply crawl back to insignificant, minority status. It's had a taste of power and likes it. And it doesn't really care whether it destroys everyone else in the process.

Wow. It's the plot of Portal 2 come to life.




Well, they will be dead soon.
 
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