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(News 13 Orlando)   Tragic accident or not, let's raffle off a gun to raise money for this guy's legal defense. That 's a great idea   (mynews13.com) divider line 78
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2013-10-07 12:00:33 AM  
In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

The hell? Had to do more digging on this one.

Here's a link with the dashcam video.

Sure looks like the cop ran him over. Oh, and there are these fun tidbits:

"At best the report is inaccurate, at worst it's a blatant lie," says Brown family attorney Benjamin Crump, who also represented Trayvon Martin's family.

Complicating the case is the fact that the autopsy was actually performed by Dr. Shiping Bao - the same doctor who performed the autopsy on Trayvon Martin - but signed by Herrmann. Bao was fired from his position in the M.E.'s office in September. According to the complaint, Bao told the Brown family that he concluded the cause of death was not an "accident" but "traumatic homicide," but that he was overruled by his supervisor, Dr. Herrmann.
 
2013-10-07 01:19:18 AM  
This thread should be interesting, I'll get the popcorn and sodas. Anyone want skittles?
 
2013-10-07 01:21:12 AM  
FTA: However, the drawing for the winning raffle ticket was held on a pontoon boat, out of the sight of spectators, under the Whitehair Bridge on the St. Johns River in DeLand.

Organizers briefly addressed the small crowd from their pontoon boat, telling them that they would call the winner.


Sounds like a scam.
 
2013-10-07 01:21:25 AM  
Well why the fark not?
 
2013-10-07 01:22:32 AM  

strangeluck: This thread should be interesting, I'll get the popcorn and sodas. Anyone want skittles?


I'm mixing up some LEAN right now.
 
2013-10-07 01:29:56 AM  
Let's support our local murderer with a badge by auctioning off a weapon of mass destruction. Good call, idiots!
 
2013-10-07 01:31:44 AM  
At least he didn't drown "while swimming with more then he could steal".
 
2013-10-07 01:32:07 AM  
DRIN--

Oh, wrong guy? Do carry on then.
 
2013-10-07 01:32:21 AM  
I thought this was gonna be another Zim thread, drink.
 
2013-10-07 01:32:45 AM  
Is there any problem guns CAN'T solve?
 
2013-10-07 01:33:31 AM  

Befuddled: FTA: However, the drawing for the winning raffle ticket was held on a pontoon boat, out of the sight of spectators, under the Whitehair Bridge on the St. Johns River in DeLand.

Organizers briefly addressed the small crowd from their pontoon boat, telling them that they would call the winner.

Sounds like a scam.



Yeah, they have raffles at one of the local HotRod shows every year, its always a nice 57 Chevy Belair or a mid-60s Impala or something. Seems like the only people that win those are in the same club thats raffling it off.
 
2013-10-07 01:33:44 AM  

Oldiron_79: I thought this was gonna be another Zim thread, drink.


You're looking for the Lakewood, WA story linked below.
 
2013-10-07 01:36:13 AM  

fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation


You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.
 
2013-10-07 01:36:53 AM  

morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.


I actually lol'd. Nice.
 
2013-10-07 01:41:52 AM  

morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.


not sure if trolliing or really means it
 
2013-10-07 01:44:23 AM  

morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.


Clearly.
 
2013-10-07 01:46:21 AM  
Why would you run from cops for not wearing a seatbelt? Why would an officer chase someone, endangering others lives, for a seat belt violation?

This is so filled with fail, and the idiot paid the ultimate price, for what, a $35 dollar ticket? Guessing he didn't have a license, and that is why he was running. Or had drugs on him. No reason to run unless something else was going on.

Kudos for the assist on the Darwin award, with the plus of getting a idiot cop off the street. Win win.
 
2013-10-07 01:59:02 AM  

fusillade762: The hell? Had to do more digging on this one.

Here's a link with the dashcam video.

Sure looks like the cop ran him over. Oh, and there are these fun tidbits:


you know he could have tried to hit his brakes for a show...
 
2013-10-07 02:00:23 AM  

morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.


Why didn't you submit this headline? You're funnier.
 
2013-10-07 02:00:38 AM  
The raffle was held out of the view of the public, and the ticket holders were told that the winner would be called?
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Sounds legit.
 
2013-10-07 02:06:04 AM  
"I think there's probably beginning to be more now than there were before because" even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.
 
2013-10-07 02:15:45 AM  

strangeluck: This thread should be interesting, I'll get the popcorn and sodas. Anyone want skittles?


And some tea please...
 
2013-10-07 02:18:25 AM  
This just in.  You run from the cops you take a chance of getting killed.  I'd say there was way more to the story than meets the eye.
 
2013-10-07 02:19:06 AM  

Befuddled: FTA: However, the drawing for the winning raffle ticket was held on a pontoon boat, out of the sight of spectators, under the Whitehair Bridge on the St. Johns River in DeLand.

Organizers briefly addressed the small crowd from their pontoon boat, telling them that they would call the winner.

Sounds like a scam.


Yeah, if your draw is held under a bridge, you just might be a troll.
 
2013-10-07 02:19:20 AM  
Hm, I'm not sure who's the person to blame here.

After all, the cop is now a FORMER DeLand police officer--he's not working as a cop anymore, and since he was a rookie, his legal costs may not have been covered by the union, so if his family needs to raise money to cover his defense, that's up to them.

The victim's family took a half-million dollar settlement with the police department (which proves nothing); but if there's a villain here, it's the medical examiner's office and the DA who declined to press charges in the case. I mean, the cop could hardly come out and say "No no, I think you should press charges against me, it was clearly a case of vehicular homicide." It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.

Cop hate may be misplaced in this one. I think what's wanted here is a double helping of lawyer and bureaucrat hate.
 
2013-10-07 02:22:25 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Hm, I'm not sure who's the person to blame here.

After all, the cop is now a FORMER DeLand police officer--he's not working as a cop anymore, and since he was a rookie, his legal costs may not have been covered by the union, so if his family needs to raise money to cover his defense, that's up to them.

The victim's family took a half-million dollar settlement with the police department (which proves nothing); but if there's a villain here, it's the medical examiner's office and the DA who declined to press charges in the case. I mean, the cop could hardly come out and say "No no, I think you should press charges against me, it was clearly a case of vehicular homicide." It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.

Cop hate may be misplaced in this one. I think what's wanted here is a double helping of lawyer and bureaucrat hate.


Why you always up so late?
 
2013-10-07 02:27:05 AM  
Um... so?

Raffles are a pretty standard way to raise money for things in informal situations.  I mean, I understand the outrage over the incident itself, that sounds unacceptably ambiguous at best, but I don't really see why the raffle is in itself a news item.

I guess it's a follow-up thing from the perspective of the local paper in question?
 
2013-10-07 02:29:15 AM  

Gyrfalcon: It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.


An ME can determine that someone died due to injuries from an auto accident without ruling it a homicide, depending on the location and severity of the injuries. Sort of like how a guy shot in the back of the head with a rifle can die of a gunshot wound without them ruling it a suicide.
 
2013-10-07 02:33:35 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Gyrfalcon: Hm, I'm not sure who's the person to blame here.

After all, the cop is now a FORMER DeLand police officer--he's not working as a cop anymore, and since he was a rookie, his legal costs may not have been covered by the union, so if his family needs to raise money to cover his defense, that's up to them.

The victim's family took a half-million dollar settlement with the police department (which proves nothing); but if there's a villain here, it's the medical examiner's office and the DA who declined to press charges in the case. I mean, the cop could hardly come out and say "No no, I think you should press charges against me, it was clearly a case of vehicular homicide." It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.

Cop hate may be misplaced in this one. I think what's wanted here is a double helping of lawyer and bureaucrat hate.

Why you always up so late?


11:30 is not late.
 
2013-10-07 02:37:30 AM  
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why you always up so late?

She's in the West. Why are you always up so late?
 
2013-10-07 02:38:06 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: This just in.  You run from the cops you take a chance of getting killed.  I'd say there was way more to the story than meets the eye.


I dunno.  The dash cam is pretty damning.
Even if they're wanted for mass murder, exacting the death penalty on the spot is not how things are supposed to play out.
 
2013-10-07 02:38:14 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Gyrfalcon: It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.

An ME can determine that someone died due to injuries from an auto accident without ruling it a homicide, depending on the location and severity of the injuries. Sort of like how a guy shot in the back of the head with a rifle can die of a gunshot wound without them ruling it a suicide.


In the link fusillade provided, the ME said the guy DIDN'T die from being struck by the car:

Brown family attorney Benjamin Crump tells CBS News' Crimesider that he believes the reason the grand jury failed to indict Harris was that the autopsy, signed by Dr. Marie Herrmann, determined that there was no evidence the car struck Brown - a conclusion the family's complaint says defies "logic, common sense, and seemingly scientific principle."

A medical examiner can only come up with two verdicts: death by accident or death at the hands of another. Therefore, since according to the genius in this case the victim somehow didn't die by being run over by a car, he magically died from some other cause that didn't involve being struck by the patrol car driven by the cop. And therefore, the grand jury couldn't indict him, because he didn't cause the death of the victim.
 
2013-10-07 02:41:42 AM  
Guns get raffled off all the time, there's absolutely nothing illegal about it in most states, you 'afraid of your own shadow' types need to get over yourselves.

As far as the issue with the guy who got killed, once you begin to run from the police, you open yourself up to possible harm. Accidents happen, from watching the video it looks to me like the guy slipped and fell and the cop simply could stop in time. Nobody runs from the police for a simple traffic violation, this guy was obviously guilty of something and he didn't want to be caught. I have zero sympathy for him.
 
2013-10-07 02:55:11 AM  
The video clearly shows the man being sucked into a wormhole just nanoseconds before the car could ram him at speed. Obviously, the extraplanar entities that killed him just deposited his body under the car moments (though who can say how time works in their realm?) later. Turn this one over to the X-Files.
 
2013-10-07 02:59:01 AM  

Gyrfalcon: determined that there was no evidence the car struck Brown


Oh, forget what I said then. That's farked up.
 
2013-10-07 03:00:25 AM  
Oh, and yeah, it sounds totally legit that these good samaritans who just wanted to help out the former officer with his legal fees A. held the purported raffle on a boat and later "announced" the winner, B. refused to say how much they raised, and C. generously offered to turn over any funds not applied to said defense fund (the, y'know, ENTIRE STATED PURPOSE OF THE RAFFLE) toward charity. Totally, 100% legit, and not shady in any way. Not even a little bit.
 
2013-10-07 03:22:35 AM  
Would you all feel better if they raffled off a car instead?


/cars don't kill people, cops kill people.
 
2013-10-07 03:22:49 AM  
Makes you wonder how the grand jury decided there was insufficient evidence to bring charges though. Surely they would have seen the video.
 
2013-10-07 03:30:42 AM  
Follow your training!
 
2013-10-07 03:38:21 AM  
That's some straight up GTA right there.

i745.photobucket.com
 
2013-10-07 03:40:17 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Hm, I'm not sure who's the person to blame here.

After all, the cop is now a FORMER DeLand police officer--he's not working as a cop anymore, and since he was a rookie, his legal costs may not have been covered by the union, so if his family needs to raise money to cover his defense, that's up to them.

The victim's family took a half-million dollar settlement with the police department (which proves nothing); but if there's a villain here, it's the medical examiner's office and the DA who declined to press charges in the case. I mean, the cop could hardly come out and say "No no, I think you should press charges against me, it was clearly a case of vehicular homicide." It's up to the DA to decide whether to press charges or not--and it's up to the medical examiner to determine how and why a person died. It was the ME's office that determined the victim didn't die by being struck by a car, which would have led the DA to decide not to file charges. Which makes zero sense, since that would mean the guy just up and died, or as we used to say DFO'd.

Cop hate may be misplaced in this one. I think what's wanted here is a double helping of lawyer and bureaucrat hate.


How the fark is the cop hate misplaced? He drove over someone with his car who was running, admittedly a stupid idea, from a seatbelt violation. Sounds like a pretty legit reason to place cop hate in the general vicinity. And it wasn't like the victim/runner dove under the police car either. At the very very least it was criminal recklessness in the chase.

I am not going to bag on the guy for auctioning off property to raise money for his defense -- he is going to need it -- but the cop hate is fine on this one. Also the people buying raffle tickets for this event are farking retards if they didn't insist on it being done in plain sight.

To be honest, I'm more surprised that Dr. Bao made a stunningly obvious, correct choice for the cause of death. I'm less surprised that a politically appointed coroner would throw the PD a bone.
 
2013-10-07 03:50:31 AM  
Cop tried to pull the guy over for a suspected seatbelt violation? More like Driving While Black. There's no way he could tell if the guy had his belt on or not, from behind, in the dark.

Still, running from the cops is farking stupid, getting out of your car and fleeing on foot is even stupider, and there was no way this was going to end well for the deceased. From the video it looks like the cop was trying to get in front of the suspect to block him in, and the guy just picked the wrong spot to trip and fall.

The bit about the M.E's report is really sketchy though. Sounds like there's some serious CYA activity going on, between that and the summary firing of the officer. Both sides were obviously in the wrong here.
 
2013-10-07 05:00:33 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Guns get raffled off all the time, there's absolutely nothing illegal about it in most states, you 'afraid of your own shadow' types need to get over yourselves.

As far as the issue with the guy who got killed, once you begin to run from the police, you open yourself up to possible harm. Accidents happen, from watching the video it looks to me like the guy slipped and fell and the cop simply could stop in time. Nobody runs from the police for a simple traffic violation, this guy was obviously guilty of something and he didn't want to be caught. I have zero sympathy for him.


How's it going officer?
 
2013-10-07 05:22:07 AM  
I'd rather win the cannoli
 
2013-10-07 05:46:47 AM  
No one runs from a seatbelt violation. And if the dashcam runs from the start, we could see him taking off said belt to get out and run away. Guilty. Then he runs from cops. They are supposed to think that a runner has something to hide. NOT the full story. And goodbye $550,000 that could have been spent in so many more deserving ways.
 
2013-10-07 05:52:41 AM  

BummerDuck: Why would you run from cops for not wearing a seatbelt? Why would an officer chase someone, endangering others lives, for a seat belt violation?

This is so filled with fail, and the idiot paid the ultimate price, for what, a $35 dollar ticket? Guessing he didn't have a license, and that is why he was running. Or had drugs on him. No reason to run unless something else was going on.


My  wonderful ex-brother in law did something similar. He was told that he had to come to court for some legal proceedings but decided to run to another state to avoid the charges. In the end he got arrested and served several months to a year for running from the police... for a charge that would've been thrown out of court anyway. I don't know what he originally thought the charges were for, but it ended up being because he had a very small amount of pot on him. The point of this story is that people will run from the police because they're breaking the law in other ways and think that they'll get serious jail time for said lawbreaking when it's really for something minor.

/last I heard he was in jail for a B&E where he threatened someone pretty badly
 
2013-10-07 06:32:44 AM  

Ready-set: No one runs from a seatbelt violation. And if the dashcam runs from the start, we could see him taking off said belt to get out and run away. Guilty. Then he runs from cops. They are supposed to think that a runner has something to hide. NOT the full story. And goodbye $550,000 that could have been spent in so many more deserving ways.




DNRTFA but I recall he was on parole or some such.
The point is that he wasn't killed because of a seatbelt infringement. He was killed because he ran from the cops and one got overzealous in his pursuit. Leaving the question if the officer was right or wrong to go full carmageddon when knowing only that he had a runner.

/Yes only the guilty run.
/but nine out of ten runners are guilty of trivial shiat.
/at some point its the better judgement to not wreck equipment and go full judge dredd on every panicked driver.
 
2013-10-07 06:53:34 AM  
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2013-10-07 06:57:36 AM  
That is the Florida of Florida. Epic.
 
2013-10-07 07:06:49 AM  
The family of the suspect received $550,000 in a settlement. That's more than Mr. Brown would have made in his lifetime knocking over liquor stores and gas stations.
 
2013-10-07 07:26:16 AM  
Was it George Zimmerman's glove gun?
 
2013-10-07 07:27:56 AM  
If something like this happens again, I hope they have a raffle for ammunition instead of a weapon. Guns are easy to come by, it's the ammo that's hard to get. So a raffle with .22LR and .223 would be really cool.
 
2013-10-07 07:49:36 AM  
Saw this article on the Orlando Sentinel, after reading the comments there you get a good understanding of the type of people that would buy these raffle tickets. Authoritarian rednecks that support any atrocity that happens to people with skin darker than their own.

Also, the cop essentially murdered the guy. He deserves to be in prison. F the police.
 
2013-10-07 07:53:38 AM  

Deathfrogg: Befuddled: FTA: However, the drawing for the winning raffle ticket was held on a pontoon boat, out of the sight of spectators, under the Whitehair Bridge on the St. Johns River in DeLand.

Organizers briefly addressed the small crowd from their pontoon boat, telling them that they would call the winner.

Sounds like a scam.


Yeah, they have raffles at one of the local HotRod shows every year, its always a nice 57 Chevy Belair or a mid-60s Impala or something. Seems like the only people that win those are in the same club thats raffling it off.


i've never seen a church raffle where the car didn't go to a priest or minister.
 
2013-10-07 08:01:29 AM  
You don't run from a simple seatbelt violation.  Now you are fleeing a police officer.  You run when where you are/what you were doing is a violation of probation, like driving on an suspended/revoked license.  He might know a thing or tow about those things:   http://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=marlon&lname=brown&fpartia l=True">http://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=marlon&lname=brow n&fpartia l=True
I see 8 arrest records for the guy.

Now, this in no way justifies a cop for running him over, which is why his next of kin go $550,000 from the police.  But I don't see any connection between a gun and the incident in the story and why I should be upset over it.
 
2013-10-07 08:06:56 AM  
The beauty of a dead "bad guy" is it allows for much more time to manufacture evidence.
Officer friendly strikes again.

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.
 
2013-10-07 08:09:36 AM  
I would buy those tickets. Why would a person be on foot for a seat belt violation? So he got out of his car and ran? Why?
 
2013-10-07 08:17:09 AM  

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I know everyone has their own opinion of the man.
But I wouldn't have a hard time voting for any candidate that used that pose on their campaign poster.
 
2013-10-07 08:18:45 AM  

computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.


Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.
 
2013-10-07 08:33:31 AM  
I think option three is much more likely.
Zombies and God don't exist.

The APC's are already in place.
 
2013-10-07 08:44:48 AM  

LordOfThePings: "I think there's probably beginning to be more now than there were before because" even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.


Ok, I just tried reading that and my brain fell out of my head.
 
2013-10-07 08:52:34 AM  

beerrun: LordOfThePings: "I think there's probably beginning to be more now than there were before because" even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

Ok, I just tried reading that and my brain fell out of my head.


He's just saying there's a beginning in before the decision looked more than ever seen in context while rowing a boat. What's so insignificant just after understand?
 
2013-10-07 09:04:16 AM  
Are we supposed to be offended that a gun is being raffled, even though the death didn't involve a gun?

It looks like the cop intended to use his car to bump the guy, but didn't account for him tripping just before he got to him.  Since I don't think cops should use their cars as taser, the cop should do time.  It's unintentional, but he knew he was unnecessarily putting the man's life at great risk.
 
2013-10-07 09:27:23 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Are we supposed to be offended that a gun is being raffled, even though the death didn't involve a gun?

It looks like the cop intended to use his car to bump the guy, but didn't account for him tripping just before he got to him.  Since I don't think cops should use their cars as taser, the cop should do time.  It's unintentional, but he knew he was unnecessarily putting the man's life at great risk.


A couple things:

It sounds like we should be offended at the rather shady nature of the raffle, There is reason to doubt whether a gun is being raffled at all.

This is grade A trolling, if the AR-15 wasn't such a contentious item right now, and bound to upset and offend so many people, they probably would have pretend raffled something else.

Any cop that would argue that using a car as a weapon isn't deadly force hasn't been on the job long enough to respond to a serious auto accident.  He might as well have fired "warning shots" right into the guy's back.  Whether the victim deserved it or not, there is no question he used deadly force in response to someone running from a seatbelt violation.
 
2013-10-07 09:37:02 AM  
The outrage over the guy's death I can understand, but what the hell difference does it make that the item raffled to raise money was a gun? Is it just the knee-jerk liberal "all guns are EEEEVIL!!" BS? If they truly wanted to go for bad taste, they would have raffled off a used police cruiser with a little front-end damage.

Guns are a great item to use for a raffle. They are fairly expensive and people tend to want to have them, so you can generally sell a lot of tickets for a decent price. The fact that you might be ideologically opposed to guns or gun ownership means precisely jack shiat.
 
2013-10-07 09:46:39 AM  

mod3072: The outrage over the guy's death I can understand, but what the hell difference does it make that the item raffled to raise money was a gun? Is it just the knee-jerk liberal "all guns are EEEEVIL!!" BS? If they truly wanted to go for bad taste, they would have raffled off a used police cruiser with a little front-end damage.

Guns are a great item to use for a raffle. They are fairly expensive and people tend to want to have them, so you can generally sell a lot of tickets for a decent price. The fact that you might be ideologically opposed to guns or gun ownership means precisely jack shiat.




Wait... You don't see the irony of raffling a gun to defend a guy who ran someone over with a car?

/using the fark definition of irony.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:06 AM  
That dashcam video makes it pretty clear that this was vehicular manslaughter at the very least. I can't say with all honesty that it was intentional, though the way the officer turned the vehicle and didn't slow down is pretty damning. Yeah, the guy was dumb for running, but the burden to act responsibly is still on the officers. There was no reason for that.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:57 AM  

MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.


Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.
 
2013-10-07 10:06:33 AM  

Thunderpipes: MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.

Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.


Social Security probably just wanted the ammo to kill all the old people when the death panels start up.
 
2013-10-07 10:10:07 AM  
Raffle an AR?  It's a buyer's market out there for those right now.  Raffle off something I didn't already have a baker's dozen of and I might bite.
 
2013-10-07 10:36:47 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Guns get raffled off all the time, there's absolutely nothing illegal about it in most states, you 'afraid of your own shadow' types need to get over yourselves.

As far as the issue with the guy who got killed, once you begin to run from the police, you open yourself up to possible harm. Accidents happen, from watching the video it looks to me like the guy slipped and fell and the cop simply could stop in time. Nobody runs from the police for a simple traffic violation, this guy was obviously guilty of something and he didn't want to be caught. I have zero sympathy for him.


Actually, a lot of people run from the cops. Hell, I've been pressured into doing it. It's a lot of fun to see who has more balls. Then again where we are, they don't bring out a helicopter for people racing.
 
2013-10-07 10:56:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Let's support our local murderer with a badge by auctioning off a weapon of mass destruction. Good call, idiots!


This is why you dont huff paint
 
2013-10-07 11:02:15 AM  
dude running, cop chasing... dude slips and falls infront of speeding car with expected results.... Lesson?: Don run from the police!!!!
Family is just attention whoring now, they done got their settlement spent and now want more.
 
2013-10-07 11:09:21 AM  

Joe Blowme: dude running, cop chasing... dude slips and falls infront of speeding car with expected results.... Lesson?: Don run from the police!!!!
Family is just attention whoring now, they done got their settlement spent and now want more.


You know how you posted this a few minutes before you posted the comment above?

Joe Blowme: This is why you dont huff paint

People don't generally appreciate hypocrites. The family can't get money from anyone else. They already settled with the city, and they just want criminal charges filed against a man who recklessly killed someone under the auspice of authority.
 
2013-10-07 01:23:00 PM  

Thunderpipes: MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.

Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.


So you're saying they can't exercise their 2nd Amendment rights by buying ammo?
 
2013-10-07 01:57:33 PM  

bindlestiff2600: morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.

not sure if trolliing or really means it

I see you're new here.

 
2013-10-07 02:00:19 PM  
I'd say his family won the ghetto lottery.
 
2013-10-07 09:03:25 PM  

DubyaHater: The family of the suspect received $550,000 in a settlement. That's more than Mr. Brown would have made in his lifetime knocking over liquor stores and gas stations.


$550,000k isn't that much. A life time of court fees, jail time, and welfare checks. Oh, and the crotch fruit too (he already had 3). It adds up quick.
 
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