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(News 13 Orlando)   Tragic accident or not, let's raffle off a gun to raise money for this guy's legal defense. That 's a great idea   (mynews13.com) divider line 78
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2013-10-07 07:26:16 AM
Was it George Zimmerman's glove gun?
 
2013-10-07 07:27:56 AM
If something like this happens again, I hope they have a raffle for ammunition instead of a weapon. Guns are easy to come by, it's the ammo that's hard to get. So a raffle with .22LR and .223 would be really cool.
 
2013-10-07 07:49:36 AM
Saw this article on the Orlando Sentinel, after reading the comments there you get a good understanding of the type of people that would buy these raffle tickets. Authoritarian rednecks that support any atrocity that happens to people with skin darker than their own.

Also, the cop essentially murdered the guy. He deserves to be in prison. F the police.
 
2013-10-07 07:53:38 AM

Deathfrogg: Befuddled: FTA: However, the drawing for the winning raffle ticket was held on a pontoon boat, out of the sight of spectators, under the Whitehair Bridge on the St. Johns River in DeLand.

Organizers briefly addressed the small crowd from their pontoon boat, telling them that they would call the winner.

Sounds like a scam.


Yeah, they have raffles at one of the local HotRod shows every year, its always a nice 57 Chevy Belair or a mid-60s Impala or something. Seems like the only people that win those are in the same club thats raffling it off.


i've never seen a church raffle where the car didn't go to a priest or minister.
 
2013-10-07 08:01:29 AM
You don't run from a simple seatbelt violation.  Now you are fleeing a police officer.  You run when where you are/what you were doing is a violation of probation, like driving on an suspended/revoked license.  He might know a thing or tow about those things:   http://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=marlon&lname=brown&fpartia l=True">http://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=marlon&lname=brow n&fpartia l=True
I see 8 arrest records for the guy.

Now, this in no way justifies a cop for running him over, which is why his next of kin go $550,000 from the police.  But I don't see any connection between a gun and the incident in the story and why I should be upset over it.
 
2013-10-07 08:06:56 AM
The beauty of a dead "bad guy" is it allows for much more time to manufacture evidence.
Officer friendly strikes again.

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.
 
2013-10-07 08:09:36 AM
I would buy those tickets. Why would a person be on foot for a seat belt violation? So he got out of his car and ran? Why?
 
2013-10-07 08:17:09 AM

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I know everyone has their own opinion of the man.
But I wouldn't have a hard time voting for any candidate that used that pose on their campaign poster.
 
2013-10-07 08:18:45 AM

computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.


Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.
 
2013-10-07 08:33:31 AM
I think option three is much more likely.
Zombies and God don't exist.

The APC's are already in place.
 
2013-10-07 08:44:48 AM

LordOfThePings: "I think there's probably beginning to be more now than there were before because" even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.


Ok, I just tried reading that and my brain fell out of my head.
 
2013-10-07 08:52:34 AM

beerrun: LordOfThePings: "I think there's probably beginning to be more now than there were before because" even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

Ok, I just tried reading that and my brain fell out of my head.


He's just saying there's a beginning in before the decision looked more than ever seen in context while rowing a boat. What's so insignificant just after understand?
 
2013-10-07 09:04:16 AM
Are we supposed to be offended that a gun is being raffled, even though the death didn't involve a gun?

It looks like the cop intended to use his car to bump the guy, but didn't account for him tripping just before he got to him.  Since I don't think cops should use their cars as taser, the cop should do time.  It's unintentional, but he knew he was unnecessarily putting the man's life at great risk.
 
2013-10-07 09:27:23 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Are we supposed to be offended that a gun is being raffled, even though the death didn't involve a gun?

It looks like the cop intended to use his car to bump the guy, but didn't account for him tripping just before he got to him.  Since I don't think cops should use their cars as taser, the cop should do time.  It's unintentional, but he knew he was unnecessarily putting the man's life at great risk.


A couple things:

It sounds like we should be offended at the rather shady nature of the raffle, There is reason to doubt whether a gun is being raffled at all.

This is grade A trolling, if the AR-15 wasn't such a contentious item right now, and bound to upset and offend so many people, they probably would have pretend raffled something else.

Any cop that would argue that using a car as a weapon isn't deadly force hasn't been on the job long enough to respond to a serious auto accident.  He might as well have fired "warning shots" right into the guy's back.  Whether the victim deserved it or not, there is no question he used deadly force in response to someone running from a seatbelt violation.
 
2013-10-07 09:37:02 AM
The outrage over the guy's death I can understand, but what the hell difference does it make that the item raffled to raise money was a gun? Is it just the knee-jerk liberal "all guns are EEEEVIL!!" BS? If they truly wanted to go for bad taste, they would have raffled off a used police cruiser with a little front-end damage.

Guns are a great item to use for a raffle. They are fairly expensive and people tend to want to have them, so you can generally sell a lot of tickets for a decent price. The fact that you might be ideologically opposed to guns or gun ownership means precisely jack shiat.
 
2013-10-07 09:46:39 AM

mod3072: The outrage over the guy's death I can understand, but what the hell difference does it make that the item raffled to raise money was a gun? Is it just the knee-jerk liberal "all guns are EEEEVIL!!" BS? If they truly wanted to go for bad taste, they would have raffled off a used police cruiser with a little front-end damage.

Guns are a great item to use for a raffle. They are fairly expensive and people tend to want to have them, so you can generally sell a lot of tickets for a decent price. The fact that you might be ideologically opposed to guns or gun ownership means precisely jack shiat.




Wait... You don't see the irony of raffling a gun to defend a guy who ran someone over with a car?

/using the fark definition of irony.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:06 AM
That dashcam video makes it pretty clear that this was vehicular manslaughter at the very least. I can't say with all honesty that it was intentional, though the way the officer turned the vehicle and didn't slow down is pretty damning. Yeah, the guy was dumb for running, but the burden to act responsibly is still on the officers. There was no reason for that.
 
2013-10-07 09:48:57 AM

MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.


Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.
 
2013-10-07 10:06:33 AM

Thunderpipes: MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.

Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.


Social Security probably just wanted the ammo to kill all the old people when the death panels start up.
 
2013-10-07 10:10:07 AM
Raffle an AR?  It's a buyer's market out there for those right now.  Raffle off something I didn't already have a baker's dozen of and I might bite.
 
2013-10-07 10:36:47 AM

ReapTheChaos: Guns get raffled off all the time, there's absolutely nothing illegal about it in most states, you 'afraid of your own shadow' types need to get over yourselves.

As far as the issue with the guy who got killed, once you begin to run from the police, you open yourself up to possible harm. Accidents happen, from watching the video it looks to me like the guy slipped and fell and the cop simply could stop in time. Nobody runs from the police for a simple traffic violation, this guy was obviously guilty of something and he didn't want to be caught. I have zero sympathy for him.


Actually, a lot of people run from the cops. Hell, I've been pressured into doing it. It's a lot of fun to see who has more balls. Then again where we are, they don't bring out a helicopter for people racing.
 
2013-10-07 10:56:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Let's support our local murderer with a badge by auctioning off a weapon of mass destruction. Good call, idiots!


This is why you dont huff paint
 
2013-10-07 11:02:15 AM
dude running, cop chasing... dude slips and falls infront of speeding car with expected results.... Lesson?: Don run from the police!!!!
Family is just attention whoring now, they done got their settlement spent and now want more.
 
2013-10-07 11:09:21 AM

Joe Blowme: dude running, cop chasing... dude slips and falls infront of speeding car with expected results.... Lesson?: Don run from the police!!!!
Family is just attention whoring now, they done got their settlement spent and now want more.


You know how you posted this a few minutes before you posted the comment above?

Joe Blowme: This is why you dont huff paint

People don't generally appreciate hypocrites. The family can't get money from anyone else. They already settled with the city, and they just want criminal charges filed against a man who recklessly killed someone under the auspice of authority.
 
2013-10-07 01:23:00 PM

Thunderpipes: MayoSlather: computerguyUT:

I'd stick around for the raffle.  No such thing as too many guns.
After the apocalypse, I'm going to be alot more popular than the guy that collected stamps for a living.

Which one? The zombie outbreak, the rapture, or the one where Obama personally starts driving tanks down Main Street USA.

Guess where all the ammo is going lately? To the government. Sorry, but I don't see why the office of Social Security needs millions of rounds of ammo. Might not be tanks down Main St. Might be Social Security or Fish and Game.


So you're saying they can't exercise their 2nd Amendment rights by buying ammo?
 
2013-10-07 01:57:33 PM

bindlestiff2600: morg: fusillade762: In the video, you can see Brown, who was running from police for a suspected seatbelt violation

You highlight "seatbelt violation" like it's some trivial crime. Not wearing your seatbelt can get you killed.

not sure if trolliing or really means it

I see you're new here.

 
2013-10-07 02:00:19 PM
I'd say his family won the ghetto lottery.
 
2013-10-07 09:03:25 PM

DubyaHater: The family of the suspect received $550,000 in a settlement. That's more than Mr. Brown would have made in his lifetime knocking over liquor stores and gas stations.


$550,000k isn't that much. A life time of court fees, jail time, and welfare checks. Oh, and the crotch fruit too (he already had 3). It adds up quick.
 
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