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2013-10-06 09:02:15 PM  
I really wouldn't take the chance of pissing off my doctor. Could end up getting prescribed something quite nasty.
 
2013-10-06 09:34:02 PM  
That's what they get for being attractive and within a 10 foot radius.  If they didn't want to be sexually harassed they'd be unattractive and further away
 
2013-10-06 09:43:16 PM  
I've read a lot of stories from emergency room doctors needing to let off steam. Apparently sexual harassment  from the (drunk/stoned/stupid) patients is common, but so are four-point restraints and a nice dose of Haldol.
 
2013-10-06 09:46:32 PM  
Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.
 
2013-10-06 09:53:22 PM  
Yeah, when you treat the public, you find out just how mean and disrespectful the public has gotten.
 
2013-10-06 09:55:18 PM  
And if the docs have it bad, think about the abuse of the poor souls in retail sales and service.
 
2013-10-06 10:10:49 PM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


I've never been groped at work.
 
2013-10-06 10:22:32 PM  
You'd think they'd be more forgiving about the biology involved.
 
2013-10-06 10:29:41 PM  

fusillade762: I really wouldn't take the chance of pissing off my doctor. Could end up getting prescribed something quite nasty.


Or getting jabbed with something sharp.
 
2013-10-06 10:31:01 PM  

fusillade762: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I've never been groped at work.


Me either.  I've been waiting for years and nada.
 
2013-10-06 10:32:10 PM  
Thirty per cent of those surveyed reported that they were touched or grabbed during consultations, with 36 per cent having been subjected to gender-based remarks


This probably is a big issue for women doctors, I couldn't find with a 30 second google search any data about male doctors having this problem, still, I bet at least some do.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-06 10:32:31 PM  

Bucky Katt: fusillade762: I really wouldn't take the chance of pissing off my doctor. Could end up getting prescribed something quite nasty.

Or getting jabbed with something sharp.


And then my doctor said, "You're going to feel a little prick".
 
2013-10-06 10:49:27 PM  
Men treat women like objects. Ric Romero reports.
 
2013-10-07 12:04:19 AM  

Bucky Katt: fusillade762: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I've never been groped at work.

Me either.  I've been waiting for years and nada.



Maybe one of those rape whistles will help.
 
2013-10-07 12:04:36 AM  
I blame porn:
lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-10-07 12:05:35 AM  
descendants of those who raped as they pleased for a large chunk of history behave this way? i'm shocked.
 
2013-10-07 12:05:36 AM  
My first thought was that the nurses have been getting it worse for far longer... but hey, now that it's happening to "important people" they can get all angry about it.
 
2013-10-07 12:06:14 AM  
reminds me of my last physical.
I ended up with a young resident.
not a bad looking woman at all.
at the end she got  a bit weird as she asked if there was anything else.
I said no. then she she hemmed and hawed and then finally said: "most men want me to check their prostate"
Something about the way she said that made me feel really sorry for her.
so I lied and told her "No, I'm good. Maybe next time"
 
2013-10-07 12:06:20 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


I can't tell if you're just amusing yourself or you actually believe that.

Yes, men are allowed to complain about harassment.
 
2013-10-07 12:09:39 AM  
doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we don't we're not allowed to complain about it.

FTFY
 
2013-10-07 12:09:59 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


Well then sexy this is for you : )
Right Said Fred - I`m Too Sexy
 
2013-10-07 12:13:25 AM  
Sexual harassment is about abusing an imbalance of power between two parties. Generally the doctor is considered to be the one with the power in the relationship so unless the harasser is an employer it's unlikely to meet the legal definition of sexual harassment.
 
2013-10-07 12:13:46 AM  
ickory-smoked:

Yes, men are allowed to complain about harassment.

If a man sexually harasses a woman it's the man fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a man then it's the man's fault.
If a man sexually harasses a man then it's a man's fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a woman heads explode.
 
2013-10-07 12:14:01 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-07 12:14:09 AM  

Hickory-smoked: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I can't tell if you're just amusing yourself or you actually believe that.

Yes, men are allowed to complain about harassment.


Men are allowed to complain of course, but they tend to be treated like lesser beings for reporting it.

"Big strong man got harrased by a weak woman? Poor baby, go cry and fill out a report, we'll look into it if we feel like it."

I have seen this before, this kind of reaction to a guy trying to get help.
 
2013-10-07 12:16:44 AM  
Oh, and sorry I couldn't resist : )
 
2013-10-07 12:16:55 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


You're allowed to complain about. I know men who have done just that. There were no reprisals, either.
 
2013-10-07 12:18:43 AM  
I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.
 
2013-10-07 12:22:51 AM  

Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.


My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.
 
2013-10-07 12:23:47 AM  
I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.
 
2013-10-07 12:26:34 AM  
It's almost as though when you strip away the textbooks and degrees and job titles and workplace etiquette, we're animals or something.
 
2013-10-07 12:27:43 AM  

troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.


The tread was being derailed in the other direction. If it rocks back and forth too much I might get see sick.
 
2013-10-07 12:41:50 AM  
Male doctor here, have been "sexually harassed" by a couple of female patients now that I think about it. Don't really care, it's kinda funny when a wrinkly, old lady wants to be completely inappropriate with me. I could see how it would be different for females though. The tricky part (for me anyway) is rebuffing the patient without pissing them off.

A woman working at the VA hospital will get hit on by the vets more than any situation I've ever seen though. Literally more than a scantily clad woman at a singles' bar. It's insane.
 
2013-10-07 12:42:51 AM  

basemetal: And if the docs have it bad, think about the abuse of the poor souls in retail sales and service.


I've been groped a few times at work. The last time it happened, I received a lecture from upper management about how I should have screamed or ran to find a supervisor. Yep, I'm totally gonna do that when the groper is some elderly man and there's tons of customers around. My main priority at the time was to get away as fast as I could, otherwise I just shut down.
 
2013-10-07 12:47:48 AM  
People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.
 
2013-10-07 12:48:31 AM  

worlddan: troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.

The tread was being derailed in the other direction. If it rocks back and forth too much I might get see sick.


Go see your mechanic for that.  He can prescribe you something.
 
2013-10-07 12:49:25 AM  

troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.


simple...one can live with a car or a computer that's broke. Not so much with a body that is broken.
 
2013-10-07 12:53:26 AM  
Evolutions is a biatch. Men seem to be programmed to grope while women seem rather gropable (and perhaps get to select who gropes them). And anyhow, what about all the wanted/appreciated gropes?
 
2013-10-07 12:53:39 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


When I was putting  myself through University as a Surgical Tech one of the Nurse Anesthetists not only groped me, but hit on me and thoroughly expressed her interest in (cough) exploring one another's anatomy. And after getting herself a sizable handful of (cough) of my sensitive area a circulating nurse took me home one night after our shift to (cough) cook me dinner, but that was spoiled by her shooting her ex-husband in the (R) shoulder. Through the front door. As he was trying to break it in.

So, it happens. I learned to live with it.

"-)

/true
 
2013-10-07 12:54:50 AM  

Smackledorfer: People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.


But being groped by sick people with broken bodies is a bit over the top.

You need to thrown in hazard pay and vinyl hazmat suits into the mix.
 
2013-10-07 12:55:53 AM  

mr lawson: troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.

simple...one can live with a car or a computer that's broke. Not so much with a body that is broken.


But the mechanic actually has to know something. The IT guy has to be able to fix things. Machines don't fix themselves. Bodies do. A general practitioner only has to know a handful of drug names to make you feel better while you heal and how to say "I'm refering you to a specialist."
 
2013-10-07 01:00:55 AM  

Smackledorfer: People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.


What if you were so unattractive that you were only groped by people in your league. Now that would suck.
 
2013-10-07 01:08:26 AM  
Article says nothing about anyone being groped.
 
2013-10-07 01:13:57 AM  

Bathysphere: Smackledorfer: People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.

What if you were so unattractive that you were only groped by people in your league. Now that would suck.


Groping doesn't work that way.

As a nonconsentual act, everyone gropes up.

With the exception of weirdos and alcohol.

Of course as an 18 y.o. man, with virtual rape immunity (to women), having a few ladies touch me in places was quite a lot better than school, where even my imagination involved girls wanting little to do with me :)
 
2013-10-07 01:16:56 AM  

Smackledorfer: Bathysphere: Smackledorfer: People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.

What if you were so unattractive that you were only groped by people in your league. Now that would suck.

Groping doesn't work that way.

As a nonconsentual act, everyone gropes up.

With the exception of weirdos and alcohol.

Of course as an 18 y.o. man, with virtual rape immunity (to women), having a few ladies touch me in places was quite a lot better than school, where even my imagination involved girls wanting little to do with me :)


You got "friend-zoned" by your own imagination!?
 
2013-10-07 01:17:13 AM  

Chariset: I've read a lot of stories from emergency room doctors needing to let off steam. Apparently sexual harassment from the (drunk/stoned/stupid) patients is common, but so are four-point restraints and a nice dose of Haldol.


Yeah, that was my first thought on reading it--how many of the harassers are unimpaired?
 
2013-10-07 01:19:31 AM  
How is this not 100%? Patients will grope you. Patients will masturbate in the room. Patients will talk to people who are not there. And that's just Tuesday.
Nurses put up with this bullshiat all the time.

People do odd thing when they are sick/drugged up and/or dying.
 
2013-10-07 01:20:59 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


I know, right?  We should really work to repeal all those laws criminalizing men reporting sexual harassment.
 
2013-10-07 01:21:54 AM  

troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.


3/10

Actually... 6/10. You've got a few good chunks of bait on that hook.
 
2013-10-07 01:24:27 AM  

worlddan: ickory-smoked:

Yes, men are allowed to complain about harassment.

If a man sexually harasses a woman it's the man fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a man then it's the man's fault.
If a man sexually harasses a man then it's a man's fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a woman heads explode.


It's sad and pathetic that you actually believe that.
 
2013-10-07 01:28:05 AM  

ciberido: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I know, right?  We should really work to repeal all those laws criminalizing men reporting sexual harassment.


Mores aren's just eels, you know.
 
2013-10-07 01:29:48 AM  
ciberido:

It's sad and pathetic that you actually believe that.

It's sad and pathetic that you think that I think that you think that I think you think I think you actually believe that.
 
2013-10-07 01:37:08 AM  

doglover: mr lawson: troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.

simple...one can live with a car or a computer that's broke. Not so much with a body that is broken.

But the mechanic actually has to know something. The IT guy has to be able to fix things. Machines don't fix themselves. Bodies do. A general practitioner only has to know a handful of drug names to make you feel better while you heal and how to say "I'm refering you to a specialist."


Sometimes. But then you get a patient like me who just says "I'm extremely tired all the time" and a few other odd things. Which specialist do you send me to?

Believe it or not, the sleep doctor was the absolute last specialist I saw. After a neurosurgeon, endocrinologist, cardiologist, psychiatrist, neurologist.. Apparently doctors don't realize that, past a certain point, most people don't distinguish between sleepiness and fatigue.

/the answer was narcolepsy
//studies show she sucked no more than most at diagnosing it
 
2013-10-07 01:46:32 AM  

Tchernobog: worlddan: troggy: I've never understood why having Dr. before your name or ,M.D. after is supposed to confer automatic societal respect. Medical doctors are the biological equivalent of car mechanics and IT monkeys.

The tread was being derailed in the other direction. If it rocks back and forth too much I might get see sick.

Go see your mechanic for that.  He can prescribe you something.


That's almost an argument for legal drugs. I agree wholeheartedly.

Dramamine is OTC though, nearly unregulated. It would relieve his "see sickness" at the suggested dose and give him a pretty nasty disassociative trip at doses much higher.

In a sane world he'd be allowed to stop by his local pharmacy on his way home and pick up a proper disassociative like ketamine along with maybe a bit of LSD.

He'd wake up the next morning,look in the mirror,and realize how silly it was to take the consumerist bullshiat culture he's been spoonfed since birth seriously. The way a few milligrams of one chemical and micrograms of another shattered his previously accepted reality would be echoed on his now sober, tired,and disheveled face.

His urge to buy shiat he doesn't need would vanish along with his compulsory trust of folks wearing white coats, expensive suits, or badges over body armor.

So that will never happen.
 
2013-10-07 01:50:59 AM  

Chariset: I've read a lot of stories from emergency room doctors needing to let off steam. Apparently sexual harassment  from the (drunk/stoned/stupid) patients is common, but so are four-point restraints and a nice dose of Haldol.


Shoot a feller could have a good weekend in Vegas with all that
 
2013-10-07 01:57:34 AM  
People, let's not lose sight of the most significant fact here: this study took place in Australia.  Of course there's going to be a lot more sexual harrassment.
 
2013-10-07 02:03:29 AM  
Look, when is the last time *you* were asked to drop trou and had a finger poked in your butt? If that's not an invitation to flirt I don't know what is!

/like my doc, but I don't like him *that* much
//he's a crummy kisser
///let's see how many idiots think I'm serious, shall we?
 
2013-10-07 02:09:28 AM  

doglover: You got "friend-zoned" by your own imagination!?


Friendzoning would have been an improvement.

/was not a happy teenager :)
 
2013-10-07 02:22:52 AM  
I exposed myself to a nurse at the doctor's office.  Was there to get a shot in the ass, had lose cargo shorts and went commando.  I forgot about the keys, cell phone, Nintendo DS, change, wallet in them.  I undid my belt and the pants slipped out my fingers and fell to the floor.  I figured, oh well, too late now.  I'm glad she was a nurse with a sense of humor and not one that was all offended by it.
 
2013-10-07 02:36:59 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


Doesn't count if you are groping yourself dude.
 
2013-10-07 02:37:28 AM  
Are GPs really 'respected and valued'? I have no idea if this is the case in Australia, but in the UK they're frequently the doctors who came bottom in their class and are little more than the irritation you have to get past to get to a real doctor.
 
2013-10-07 02:43:12 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.


No. Really?

Uncomfortable as it may be, in my experience,
a) no female physician has clamped a fake hand on my right shoulder. *shudder*
2) no female physician has acted with less than professional demeanor during a prostate exam. (see a above)
iii) no female physician has had larger fingers than any male physician who performed a prostate exam on me.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
2013-10-07 02:45:57 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.


I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.
 
2013-10-07 02:59:28 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Mr. Eugenides: Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

No. Really?

Uncomfortable as it may be, in my experience,
a) no female physician has clamped a fake hand on my right shoulder. *shudder*
2) no female physician has acted with less than professional demeanor during a prostate exam. (see a above)
iii) no female physician has had larger fingers than any male physician who performed a prostate exam on me.

That's all I have to say about that.


Yeah, it's not *physically* uncomfortable.
 
2013-10-07 03:02:52 AM  

Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.


I'm sure Mrs. Eugenides agrees. with you.  Something, something, episiotomy  something.
 
2013-10-07 03:03:21 AM  

Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.


Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god
 
2013-10-07 03:23:49 AM  
Menopause does wonders for sexual harassment, unless you're Andrea Merkel.
 
2013-10-07 03:28:09 AM  
Only 41 instances of the word "grope"?  We are slipping, people!  Let's get with the program!
Back to the gropefest...
 
2013-10-07 03:42:14 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: Sometimes. But then you get a patient like me who just says "I'm extremely tired all the time" and a few other odd things. Which specialist do you send me to?

Believe it or not, the sleep doctor was the absolute last specialist I saw. After a neurosurgeon, endocrinologist, cardiologist, psychiatrist, neurologist.. Apparently doctors don't realize that, past a certain point, most people don't distinguish between sleepiness and fatigue.



That just proves my point. You just send them to specialists in any old order. Tired? A -ologist. No? B- ologist, C-ologist. They'll get help or die sometime during the process.
 
2013-10-07 03:43:45 AM  

ladyfortuna: Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.

Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god


You poor thing!


I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).
 
2013-10-07 03:53:58 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.


She probably didn't mind the first few times, but asking for a prostate check every fifteen minutes during a routine physical is a bit over the top.
 
2013-10-07 04:00:31 AM  
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2013-10-07 04:03:25 AM  

razyjean: ladyfortuna: Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.

Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god

You poor thing!


I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).


I've not been to an OB/GYN -- being a guy and all -- but my girlfriend is thinking about switching from a female to a male. She doesn't feel too comfortably getting a BC prescription from a women who is "pregnant every time I see her." Then again, I don't know if there is any actual judgment or a just a figment of her imagination. I mean, you know how crazy women are...
 
2013-10-07 04:06:09 AM  

ciberido: worlddan: ickory-smoked:

Yes, men are allowed to complain about harassment.

If a man sexually harasses a woman it's the man fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a man then it's the man's fault.
If a man sexually harasses a man then it's a man's fault.
If a woman sexually harasses a woman heads explode.

It's sad and pathetic that you actually believe that.


How else would he be able to feel OUTRAAAAAGED! about everything?
 
2013-10-07 04:40:36 AM  
Dude, not in my house.  Doctors are figures of authority.
 
2013-10-07 04:51:24 AM  
I'd rather see male gyno. They don't know what it's like having lady parts, so I find them to be more gentle and respectful.
 
2013-10-07 05:09:23 AM  

Bathysphere: I'd rather see male gyno. They don't know what it's like having lady parts, so I find them to be more gentle and respectful.


This ladies and gentlemen is the first and sadly probably last ever honest comment by a female on the entire internets.
 
2013-10-07 05:09:46 AM  
razyjean:

I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).


female. mainly because I would mistrust the motivations of any man who wanted to be a gynaecologist
 
2013-10-07 05:12:26 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


Bullshiat.
 
2013-10-07 05:12:46 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Bathysphere: I'd rather see male gyno. They don't know what it's like having lady parts, so I find them to be more gentle and respectful.

This ladies and gentlemen is the first and sadly probably last ever honest comment by a female on the entire internets.


Wait what? I'm pretty honest on the intertubes.
 
2013-10-07 05:18:44 AM  

Bathysphere: THE GREAT NAME: Bathysphere: I'd rather see male gyno. They don't know what it's like having lady parts, so I find them to be more gentle and respectful.

This ladies and gentlemen is the first and sadly probably last ever honest comment by a female on the entire internets.

Wait what? I'm pretty honest on the intertubes.


Some people should have their intertubes tied.
 
2013-10-07 05:42:28 AM  

aerojockey: People, let's not lose sight of the most significant fact here: this study took place in Australia.  Of course there's going to be a lot more sexual harrassment.


I don't get it. And I say so not defending Australia, as I'm under no illusion that we've got a particularly good record on the matter.
 
2013-10-07 05:43:38 AM  

redmid17: razyjean: ladyfortuna: Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.

Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god

You poor thing!


I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).

I've not been to an OB/GYN -- being a guy and all -- but my girlfriend is thinking about switching from a female to a male. She doesn't feel too comfortably getting a BC prescription from a women who is "pregnant every time I see her." Then again, I don't know if there is any actual judgment or a just a figment of her imagination. I mean, you know how crazy women are...


How does she know she's pregnant and not fat? However, it's also odd to assume her birth control failed, if that's what your gf is implying. Some of the ladies who become OB/GYNs are the types who love pregnancy and children. Doesn't mean they're going to make YOU pregnant.
 
2013-10-07 05:53:03 AM  
THE GREAT NAME:
Bathysphere: I'd rather see male gyno. They don't know what it's like having lady parts, so I find them to be more gentle and respectful.

This ladies and gentlemen is the first and sadly probably last ever honest comment by a female on the entire internets.


Can add data point: my college GF reported that her female doctor basically jammed a cold speculum up there and said "buck up honey we all have to go through it".

Lady J:
I would mistrust the motivations of any man who wanted to be a gynaecologist

Yeah I'm sure they're all pervs.  Think for a second... most gyn's have to see some pretty ghastly vaginas in their day.  If I was planning on molesting my patients I would pick a specialty where they didn't show up with their crotch smelling like a dead carcass.
 
2013-10-07 06:08:01 AM  
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/Hide yo' wifes, hide yo' kids!
 
2013-10-07 06:08:26 AM  
Had a really hot woman doctor for my last work physical. It was starting to get up there.
 
2013-10-07 06:24:58 AM  

razyjean: ladyfortuna: Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.

Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god

You poor thing!


I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).


I disagree with your reasoning that female gyno's are more delicate. I feel the exact opposite actually. I think because they share our pudendum, and must go through the same exams they feel as though they have a license to to be err.. less caring. Granted, I've only had two GYNs to draw this preference from. I very much prefer my male gyno to my last female doc, compared to her seeing him is like a spa day. No joke. Although, I do have a inkling that she was just an unusually horrible doctor and he is an A++, above average doc.
@ Lady J
I have no qualms with a man wanting to be a gyno. My doc actually said that he became a OBGYN because he felt that it was a "happy" medical field. He spoke about how being a general surgeon was an option, but he couldn't always fix a problem, and make the person happy. (EG installing a colostomy bag, fixed the issue, but the patient was less than thrilled) Delivering babies, helping women to plan for families, or avoid them, and making, what could be, an unpleasant experience a nice one does sound like a "happy" medical field!
Unless you're that evil, uncaring, heavy-handed witch I saw that just wants to crush delicate, sensitive, petite flowers /sniff. Oh, and happiness, I think she tried to crush my main source of it too.
 
2013-10-07 06:36:48 AM  
EStau:
I disagree with your reasoning that female gyno's are more delicate. I feel the exact opposite actually. I think because they share our pudendum, and must go through the same exams they feel as though they have a license to to be err.. less caring.

This is sexism, pure and simple.
 
2013-10-07 06:43:42 AM  

stratagos: Look, when is the last time *you* were asked to drop trou and had a finger poked in your butt? If that's not an invitation to flirt I don't know what is!

/like my doc, but I don't like him *that* much
//he's a crummy kisser
///let's see how many idiots think I'm serious, shall we?


That happened the last time I went to see the doc. Hey it was her idea.
 
2013-10-07 07:13:09 AM  
Having done two years of pharmacy residency at two different teaching hospitals and now working at a third, I've not ever met an unattractive medical resident, intern, or med student. Of either gender. I think that being beautiful is a prerequisite to med school admission. Trolls like me get to go to pharmacy school.

/not surprised people harass physicians
 
2013-10-07 07:32:57 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Men treat women like objects. Ric Romero reports.


Of course they do. Just look at the sentence structure:

Men treat women like objects.

Subject verb object (plus prepositional phrase or some such thing).
 
2013-10-07 07:36:34 AM  
I wouldn't say it is one of the most respected jobs (independent software dev), but I've been groped twice. I'm a dude and both were female managers/clients.  First time was a simple butt grab and a "You smell so good".  The other was a nibble on my ear from behind and a right hand over my crotch while I was sitting in a chair.  Both times I simply said "I'm married". 2nd time was tough though because she was extremely attractive.  I felt flattered instead of violated.  I figured they were just trolling for flings.
 
2013-10-07 07:41:13 AM  
Gotta love the old men's rights thread on the ole Fark
 
2013-10-07 07:48:53 AM  

ImmaHoopyFrood: I wouldn't say it is one of the most respected jobs (independent software dev), but I've been groped twice. I'm a dude and both were female managers/clients.  First time was a simple butt grab and a "You smell so good".  The other was a nibble on my ear from behind and a right hand over my crotch while I was sitting in a chair.  Both times I simply said "I'm married". 2nd time was tough though because she was extremely attractive.  I felt flattered instead of violated.  I figured they were just trolling for flings.


Hey - I was aiming for Fark! How the hell did I end up in Penthouse Letters??
 
2013-10-07 08:08:20 AM  
That depends on how far you stretch the definition of sexual harassment.  When the standard, "guy I didnt like looked at me for more than 1 second" is included, I could see these numbers being legit.
 
2013-10-07 08:14:23 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Gotta love the old men's rights thread on the ole Fark


It's like when you come across a weird racist toy at an antiques store. It's oddly amusing at first, but ultimately sad.
 
2013-10-07 08:15:06 AM  

someonelse: It's like when you come across a weird racist toy at an antiques store. It's oddly amusing at first, but ultimately sad.


Ohhh well said
 
2013-10-07 08:16:02 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ImmaHoopyFrood: I wouldn't say it is one of the most respected jobs (independent software dev), but I've been groped twice. I'm a dude and both were female managers/clients.  First time was a simple butt grab and a "You smell so good".  The other was a nibble on my ear from behind and a right hand over my crotch while I was sitting in a chair.  Both times I simply said "I'm married". 2nd time was tough though because she was extremely attractive.  I felt flattered instead of violated.  I figured they were just trolling for flings.

Hey - I was aiming for Fark! How the hell did I end up in Penthouse Letters??


Totally true, unlike letters.  And this was after I left a consulting firm and went out on my own because of disagreements in corporate culture.  After my 2 years with the firm at the Christmas dance/party my drunk ass manager made my wife cry when he tried to feel her up.  Said he didn't remember doing it.  The people that moved up in the firm were the ones that attended the special swinger parties.  I never participated in the fall "Hay Ride" or the "After Christmas Party".  The place was like a cult.  We had monthly required meetings in hotels that were catered.  When someone left they had a little "This person is dead to us" ceremony, and let everyone know that if they saw this person working at any client that was on their list to report it for potential legal action.
 
2013-10-07 08:22:23 AM  

someonelse: Tat'dGreaser: Gotta love the old men's rights thread on the ole Fark

It's like when you come across a weird racist toy at an antiques store. It's oddly amusing at first, but ultimately sad.


So, you find racism amusing? You vile specimin.
 
2013-10-07 08:26:51 AM  

fusillade762: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I've never been groped at work.


Me neither.  Being unattractive and oblivious to social cues does have its advantages at times.
 
2013-10-07 08:39:50 AM  
You mean to tell me that a profession that has always been behind the times in terms of gender equality, and that until the past 50 years considered 'detached superiority' to be the best possible method for interacting with the public might have a bit of a problem with inappropriate sexual behaviour?  No way.  What's next? Are the engineers and lawyers up to this too?
 
2013-10-07 08:42:11 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.



Women get invasive exams all the time (often by male doctors).  Man up nancy boy.  Close your eyes and think of England.
 
2013-10-07 08:42:50 AM  

doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.


I haven't been groped at work since I was 16. With guys there is a much bigger danger of getting punched in the face for pulling something like that.
 
2013-10-07 08:46:42 AM  

LiberalConservative: Evolutions is a biatch. Men seem to be programmed to grope while women seem rather gropable (and perhaps get to select who gropes them). And anyhow, what about all the wanted/appreciated gropes?


If it's wanted it's called a caress.  A grope means that it is unwanted.

If men are so unable to control themselves maybe we should round them up and place them in special camps.   Don't you think that  labelling men as out-of-control assholes is an insult to men?
 
2013-10-07 08:53:45 AM  

EStau: I have no qualms with a man wanting to be a gyno. My doc actually said that he became a OBGYN because he felt that it was a "happy" medical field. He spoke about how being a general surgeon was an option, but he couldn't always fix a problem, and make the person happy. (EG installing a colostomy bag, fixed the issue, but the patient was less than thrilled) Delivering babies, helping women to plan for families, or avoid them, and making, what could be, an unpleasant experience a nice one does sound like a "happy" medical field!
Unless you're that evil, uncaring, heavy-handed witch I saw that just wants to crush delicate, sensitive, petite flowers /sniff. Oh, and happiness, I think she tried to crush my main source of it too.


I can't see gynecology as all that happy of a field.  Maybe delivering a healthy, wanted baby is a happy event, but beyond that there is a lot of older menopausal women with tumors and cancer and prolapses.
 
2013-10-07 08:58:01 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Men treat women like objects. Ric Romero reports.


Yes. Because men are all the same, and all men do this. Good job fighting sexism there.
 
2013-10-07 09:22:52 AM  

Trapper439: Benevolent Misanthrope: Men treat women like objects. Ric Romero reports.

Yes. Because men are all the same, and all men do this. Good job fighting sexism there.


It doesn't have to be all or even most.  There just have to be enough horrible men to make it nearly impossible for a woman to go through life without encountering some pretty much all the time, and it's pretty clear that this happens.

Also, it is true that most men at least tacitly support this kind of treatment, as do many women who have been trained since birth to view women as inferior objects whose purpose is to titillate men whenever men want to get off.
 
2013-10-07 09:29:35 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: someonelse: Tat'dGreaser: Gotta love the old men's rights thread on the ole Fark

It's like when you come across a weird racist toy at an antiques store. It's oddly amusing at first, but ultimately sad.

So, you find racism amusing?


Occasionally, as a precursor to sadness and mild nausea.
 
2013-10-07 09:30:40 AM  

Lady J: razyjean:

I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).

female. mainly because I would mistrust the motivations of any man who wanted to be a gynaecologist


wooo sexism.

i thought about how cool it would be a gynecologist when i was like 18, but that only lasted a minute till i realized i'd have to deal with a lot of yeast infections, jungles, and old women.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-10-07 09:31:12 AM  

Bucky Katt: fusillade762: doglover: Men get groped at work, too. Probably as often or even more because we're not allowed to complain about it.

I've never been groped at work.

Me either.  I've been waiting for years and nada.


You gotta head down to the home depot parking lot. Granted, they'll steal your wallet. Wallets are on sale for 4.95, 10% off with employee discount.
 
2013-10-07 09:36:01 AM  

someonelse: Tat'dGreaser: Gotta love the old men's rights thread on the ole Fark

It's like when you come across a weird racist toy at an antiques store. It's oddly amusing at first, but ultimately sad.


A lot of guys get tired of being tarred with the same brush. Most of us know to think 'How would I want someone to treat my sister, wife, mother, or daughter?'

If we see harassment we try to stop it. Yes there is a problem with sexual harassment, we all need to help fix it. If someone does this, report them. Assholes won't change without consequences.

The idea that men get this as much as women is pretty far fetched. I'm sure some environments are just as bad for men, but nearly so many if them.

But goddamn, I get tired of it being assumed all guys tolerate or excuse this behavior.
 
2013-10-07 09:40:41 AM  
he is concerned that less than 7 per cent of the GPs said they had been trained on how to deal with sexual harassment by a patient

See there? THAT's the problem. Patients are horribly underqualified to train GPs on how to deal with sexual harassment. That task should be left to professional.
 
2013-10-07 10:05:50 AM  

DaBayer: he is concerned that less than 7 per cent of the GPs said they had been trained on how to deal with sexual harassment by a patient

See there? THAT's the problem. Patients are horribly underqualified to train GPs on how to deal with sexual harassment. That task should be left to professional.


No, you idiot! He means that training doctors todo sexual harassment needs patience, because doctors are slow learners. That's why they need 10 years at med school just to learn how to poke their finger up your bum, prescribe antibiotics for a virus, and badger you about your lifestyle.
 
2013-10-07 10:16:24 AM  

razyjean: My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts. I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that. I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).


My current Gyno is a near-retirement tiny Chinese man which is amusing to me since I'm 5'8". I was a little nervous at first but he's completely harmless and very nice. In fact the only thing that's weird about it is he is very much pro-baby so it took a while to convince him that yes, hysterectomy was how I wanted to fix the endometriosis since the other treatment didn't work. The waiting room is a little intimidating, because he's probably delivered 500+ babies and they're all on the walls.
 
2013-10-07 10:25:22 AM  

ladyfortuna: The waiting room is a little intimidating, because he's probably delivered 500+ babies and they're all on the walls.


Maybe he should start using a delivery room then, and probably catch them on the way out.
 
2013-10-07 10:25:22 AM  

ladyfortuna: because he's probably delivered 500+ babies and they're all on the walls.


That's disgusting and unsanitary.
 
2013-10-07 10:33:27 AM  

someonelse: ladyfortuna: because he's probably delivered 500+ babies and they're all on the walls.

That's disgusting and unsanitary.


Haha! Well played.
 
2013-10-07 10:45:50 AM  

ambercat: redmid17: razyjean: ladyfortuna: Pincy: Mr. Eugenides: Abox: I've only seen one chick doctor and that was for strep throat.  She prescribed antibiotics without even taking a throat swab...I thought that was weird and I never went back to her.

My GP is female and not entirely unattractive.  She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part.  Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.

Indeed. Especially when they forget the lubricant for the speculum.

/not kidding even a little bit.
//it was just that once, thank god

You poor thing!


I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts.  I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that.  I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).

I've not been to an OB/GYN -- being a guy and all -- but my girlfriend is thinking about switching from a female to a male. She doesn't feel too comfortably getting a BC prescription from a women who is "pregnant every time I see her." Then again, I don't know if there is any actual judgment or a just a figment of her imagination. I mean, you know how crazy women are...

How does she know she's pregnant and not fat? However, it's also odd to assume her birth control failed, if that's what your gf is implying. Some of the ladies who become OB/GYNs are the types who love pregnancy and children. Doesn't mean they're going to make YOU pregnant.


1) Her doctor repeatedly says she is pregnant and has additional children every year....
2) That's not what she's implying
3) I'm assuming, because I didn't want to press the issue, that my girlfriend didn't feel comfortable asking for a way to prevent pregnancy from her because she thought she was being judged. That's why I mentioned the whole "judgment" thing because judging is separate from sabotaging
 
2013-10-07 11:10:06 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: I exposed myself to a nurse at the doctor's office.  Was there to get a shot in the ass, had lose cargo shorts and went commando.  I forgot about the keys, cell phone, Nintendo DS, change, wallet in them.  I undid my belt and the pants slipped out my fingers and fell to the floor.  I figured, oh well, too late now.  I'm glad she was a nurse with a sense of humor and not one that was all offended by it.


I'm sure she's seen similar things before.

Pincy: My GP is female and not entirely unattractive. She's married with a couple of kids, I'm married with a couple of kids, It's just not an issue for the most part. Though the prostate check is, err, uncomfortable.

I'm sure all the women who have to go through a pelvic exam every year are playing their violins for you.


Pelvic exams involve sticking fingers into a place things are meant to enter.  Prostate checks involve sticking fingers where they aren't meant to go.

razyjean: I have a question for the ladies: do you prefer a male or female OB/GYN?

I prefer female, because they have the same parts as I do and are more inclined to respect the sensitive nature of the area (plus, I had one male Dr. that made me feel kind of uncomfortable; like he enjoyed giving the exam just a little too much).

My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts. I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that. I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).


My wife most definitely wants a female gyn.  The ob part is moot.
 
2013-10-07 11:13:46 AM  

Graffito: LiberalConservative: Evolutions is a biatch. Men seem to be programmed to grope while women seem rather gropable (and perhaps get to select who gropes them). And anyhow, what about all the wanted/appreciated gropes?

If it's wanted it's called a caress.  A grope means that it is unwanted.

If men are so unable to control themselves maybe we should round them up and place them in special camps.   Don't you think that  labelling men as out-of-control assholes is an insult to men?


But there's the problem; one does not know if the outcome is grope or caress (yeah, yeah, baring certain "situations"). The groper only has to successfully caress once in 10 (20, 50, 100?) to make such an attempt a worthwhile endevour at a shot of passing on their genetic material...
Perhaps men who are non-out-of-control-assholes are simply controlling themselves just so that they can employ an alternate method (pickup line, warm hello, offer to buy a drink, etc) enabling a shot at passing on their genetic material simply because they believe that would provide a greater chance than a grope/caress attempt? Couldn't that also be considered assholish, and thus insulting to men also. Hmm... maybe you are right about those special camps.
 
2013-10-07 11:20:58 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: Believe it or not, the sleep doctor was the absolute last specialist I saw. After a neurosurgeon, endocrinologist, cardiologist, psychiatrist, neurologist.. Apparently doctors don't realize that, past a certain point, most people don't distinguish between sleepiness and fatigue.


Oh man... And a big nod of sympathy to you, and happiness that someone finally figured it out. Not getting enough sleep is one of those problems that completely changes your life.
 
2013-10-07 11:30:06 AM  

ladyfortuna: razyjean: My mother-in-law says that only a man should look at a woman's parts. I honestly didn't even know how to respond to that. I tried explaining my views, but it was like talking to a puppy, blank stare and all (like she couldn't comprehend the words I was speaking).

My current Gyno is a near-retirement tiny Chinese man which is amusing to me since I'm 5'8". I was a little nervous at first but he's completely harmless and very nice. In fact the only thing that's weird about it is he is very much pro-baby so it took a while to convince him that yes, hysterectomy was how I wanted to fix the endometriosis since the other treatment didn't work. The waiting room is a little intimidating, because he's probably delivered 500+ babies and they're all on the walls.


Just don't drink If he offers you a coke.

Glad you got your hysterectomy.  My wife spent almost 2 years bleeding with endo and a benign 5 inch tumor before hers got approved.  Had to drag her in barely conscious to ER a least once every few months to get an A Pos refill.  They asked to keep the tumor for education.  And thanks goes out to you farkers that give blood.  That surgery and last year of her dealing with it was the first time we actually went over our $10K deductible.  Worth every penny.  They cut her from hip to hip.
 
2013-10-07 12:14:56 PM  
and here I was planning a trip to Australia...
 
2013-10-07 12:38:21 PM  

nanim: and here I was planning a trip to Australia...


Honestly I wouldn't even bother. Soelden does not even have enough snow to ski on the peaks yet, and Gstaad is so much nicer, albeit a bit more expensive, to ski and stay at. Plus you won't have to worry about dingoes eating your babies.
 
2013-10-07 12:42:30 PM  
ts4.mm.bing.net
Your really going to mess with someone with lots of these and knows how to use them?
 
2013-10-07 01:44:11 PM  
If a hot chick grabs my junk, then tells me to turn my head and cough, the natural & expected reaction she gets from a certain part of me will be the same whether she went to med school or not. And I guess I'd have to ask, in this case who is harassing whom?
 
2013-10-07 02:07:42 PM  

Bathysphere: basemetal: And if the docs have it bad, think about the abuse of the poor souls in retail sales and service.

I've been groped a few times at work. The last time it happened, I received a lecture from upper management about how I should have screamed or ran to find a supervisor. Yep, I'm totally gonna do that when the groper is some elderly man and there's tons of customers around. My main priority at the time was to get away as fast as I could, otherwise I just shut down.


That's one response type of four identified. In other words? Whoever said that was an idiot.
 
2013-10-07 02:33:24 PM  
Still no word on whether they were hot or not.
 
2013-10-07 02:44:16 PM  
Jeez if I like a woman no matter the position I would just openly say it. If the woman says no or that she is married, I leave it alone and try to keep it professional. Why tease about it?
 
2013-10-07 03:33:32 PM  

stuffy: [ts4.mm.bing.net image 255x183]
Your really going to mess with someone with lots of these and knows how to use them?


Mess with her at your own risk

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-10-07 03:38:25 PM  

fusillade762: I really wouldn't take the chance of pissing off my doctor. Could end up getting prescribed something quite nasty.


This.  It's like being rude to your waiter...you never know WHAT will end up inside you.
 
2013-10-07 07:27:53 PM  

doglover: Smackledorfer: Bathysphere: Smackledorfer: People who are groped complain, but I think they would prefer it to being ungropably unattractive.

Grass is always greener.

/got groped when I was a waiter
//there was lots of groping all around.

What if you were so unattractive that you were only groped by people in your league. Now that would suck.

Groping doesn't work that way.

As a nonconsentual act, everyone gropes up.

With the exception of weirdos and alcohol.

Of course as an 18 y.o. man, with virtual rape immunity (to women), having a few ladies touch me in places was quite a lot better than school, where even my imagination involved girls wanting little to do with me :)

You got "friend-zoned" by your own imagination!?


Dammit, now I'm choking on my Hot Cheetos...!

/really
 
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