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(History vs. Hollywood)   Yes, people are still arguing whether The Amityville Horror is true   (historyvshollywood.com) divider line 110
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2013-10-06 07:37:44 PM
Well, aspects of it are fact

DeFeo did kill his 6 family members in the house

The Lutzes did buy and then a month later abandon that same beautiful house

There was a red room in the basement but it wasn't very secret

as to whether anything strange happened or not I have two points that make me wonder

A priest related an experience, much less intense that the movie, but strange. Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal. But still... a priest.

Buying a house is a pain in the ass. Setting up a scam likely more so. Getting kids to participate in the scam and not have them let something slip.. damn near impossible. Seems like a lot of trouble for a scam that might not even pay off, after all there was no book deal or optioned movie rights yet.....OR WAS THERE???
 
2013-10-06 08:13:23 PM
People argue about all kinds of things that we know the answers for: chemtrails, the moon landing, JFK, 9/11, Benghazi, gun control, evolution, existence of god, universal health care, global warming.
 
2013-10-06 08:29:39 PM

Barfmaker: existence of god


If 'we' know the answer for this one I will happily examine your evidence...
 
2013-10-06 08:56:11 PM
No, it's not. However everything that happened in this movie is 100% true.

images.moviepostershop.com

The sequel embellished things a bit, though.
 
2013-10-06 09:11:49 PM

Barfmaker: People argue about all kinds of things that we know the answers for: chemtrails, the moon landing, JFK, 9/11, Benghazi, gun control, evolution, existence of god, universal health care, global warming.


BENGHAZI!!b
 
2013-10-06 09:14:53 PM
All I know is I'll never watch that movie ever again. Weeks of nightmares when I watched it as a kid. Never. Again.
 
2013-10-06 09:16:36 PM
I watched My Amityville Horror, the documentary about the son Daniel. It was weird, I thought he was going to talk about how his stepfather (who he clearly hated) made all this crap up and forced the kids to go along with it. But it wasn't like that at all. He swears it all really happened. I started thinking it was a fake documentary set up to be creepy but apparently it is real. He seems pretty mentally unstable though.
 
2013-10-06 09:42:17 PM

Confabulat: I watched My Amityville Horror, the documentary about the son Daniel. It was weird, I thought he was going to talk about how his stepfather (who he clearly hated) made all this crap up and forced the kids to go along with it. But it wasn't like that at all. He swears it all really happened. I started thinking it was a fake documentary set up to be creepy but apparently it is real. He seems pretty mentally unstable though.


Yeah, the last part is definitely true. He was quite unhinged esp when his mother (?) pulled out the jewelry that had a "real piece of the actual cross" . He was a pretty good guitar player though.
 
2013-10-06 09:47:29 PM
The Cromarty family moved into the Amityville house after the Lutzes. The only horror they experienced apparently came from tourists.

http://www.amityvillemurders.com/history.html
 
2013-10-06 09:57:39 PM
The only truth I associate with that story is the DeFeo murders.  Most of the book's supernatural occurences were false.
 
2013-10-06 09:57:42 PM
Just for the hell of it:  Art Bell interviews George Lutz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHd8lmDk9A
 
2013-10-06 10:28:26 PM

Majick Thise: A priest related an experience, much less intense that the movie, but strange. Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal. But still... a priest.


'Cause priests are never unreliable, shady, or liars.
 
2013-10-06 10:34:08 PM

Majick Thise: Barfmaker: existence of god

If 'we' know the answer for this one I will happily examine your evidence...




"I'm afraid it was the Mormons. Yes, the Mormons were the correct answer."
 
2013-10-06 10:40:13 PM
I don't know if it's a true story (yes I do, it's not).  But I read the book, and I will admit, it was the first BOOK that ever scared me so much I had to stop reading!

Like slamming the book shut going "no no no no no!"

Scariest book I ever read.  To this day.
 
2013-10-06 10:43:47 PM

wiredroach: Majick Thise: A priest related an experience, much less intense that the movie, but strange. Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal. But still... a priest.

'Cause priests are never unreliable, shady, or liars.


perhaps you missed the part where I said 'Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal'
 
2013-10-06 11:09:18 PM
The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:
newsfromthespiritworld.files.wordpress.com

/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo
 
2013-10-06 11:13:56 PM

Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:
[newsfromthespiritworld.files.wordpress.com image 630x470]

/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo


What's so creepy about this GAHHH!

OK,  I see now.
 
2013-10-06 11:14:18 PM

Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:
[newsfromthespiritworld.files.wordpress.com image 630x470]

/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo


That is a great picture. Spooked the hell out of me when i first saw it.
 
2013-10-06 11:22:02 PM

Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:


/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo


What is that!?
 
2013-10-06 11:25:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:


/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo

What is that!?


They talk about it in the documentary. It was a 70s local news crew that spent the night there cause you know, it was famous and they were local news. Anyway, no one saw anything unusual during the night, but they had set up cameras around the house and it was some time later when they were going over the photos that someone found that one. The kids weren't in the house that night.

The 70s crew was in the documentary too, the old anchorman still thinks it's all a bunch of hooey.
 
2013-10-06 11:31:50 PM
I was waiting for some animated GIF style gotcha jumping at the camera. Am I missing something?
 
2013-10-06 11:35:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:


/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo

What is that!?


A child's face with glowing eyes painted on a photograph.
 
2013-10-06 11:37:55 PM

Shakin_Haitian: A child's face with glowing eyes painted on a photograph.


Nah, by all accounts it's a real photo, taken by a professional news crew.

The main skeptic theory is it probably was a member of the crew checking on something and just poking his head out the door for a second.
 
2013-10-06 11:42:24 PM
I read the book.It has to be true.

/Scary read.
 
2013-10-06 11:42:55 PM

Confabulat: Shakin_Haitian: A child's face with glowing eyes painted on a photograph.

Nah, by all accounts it's a real photo, taken by a professional news crew.

The main skeptic theory is it probably was a member of the crew checking on something and just poking his head out the door for a second.


Why is the face less lit than the door jam behind it, then? The picture doesn't make visual sense to me.
 
2013-10-06 11:47:27 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

It doesn't look that off to me but I'm no expert. There was no Photoshop in 1977 though, so I admire the fakery if it is that.
 
2013-10-06 11:47:39 PM
At least Amityville II managed to get Diane Franklin nekkid.
 
2013-10-06 11:50:19 PM

Shakin_Haitian: Why is the face less lit than the door jam behind it, then?


And besides, you know ghosts photograph terribly. They always mess up the light.
 
2013-10-06 11:50:20 PM
Next up: Did Frank Dux really win the Kumite five years in a row?
 
2013-10-06 11:52:55 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-10-06 11:54:01 PM

Confabulat: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 333x505]

It doesn't look that off to me but I'm no expert. There was no Photoshop in 1977 though, so I admire the fakery if it is that.


Ooooo, spooky. It's a dude whose glasses caught the camera flare while he was bent over, looking out of his room. It's witches, biatches!
 
2013-10-06 11:54:16 PM
The house (the real house, not the one used in the movies) was on the market recently.  The family who were selling it had owned it for decades.  The reason they were selling?  Empty nesters downsizing.
 
2013-10-06 11:58:40 PM

majestic: Ooooo, spooky. It's a dude whose glasses caught the camera flare while he was bent over, looking out of his room. It's witches, biatches!


Oh sure, but it's still spooky.
 
2013-10-06 11:59:43 PM
Things can be spooky even if you know they aren't really what they seem you know. Otherwise there would be no horror movies.
 
2013-10-07 12:01:22 AM

Confabulat: Things can be spooky even if you know they aren't really what they seem you know.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-10-07 12:03:18 AM
Just for old time's sake. Foamy: Amytiville Toaster.

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=2KyRCQp32p8
 
2013-10-07 12:04:42 AM

Confabulat: majestic: Ooooo, spooky. It's a dude whose glasses caught the camera flare while he was bent over, looking out of his room. It's witches, biatches!

Oh sure, but it's still spooky.


And based on his facial expression, somebody just farted or yelled, or both, and woke him up. Looks like Anthony Michael Hall around the Breakfast Club era.  Like he just got out from under Jake's coffee table.
 
2013-10-07 12:04:57 AM

jocutus: Paris1127: The house is not haunted, but this pic is still creepy:
[newsfromthespiritworld.files.wordpress.com image 630x470]

/only monster in that house was Butch DeFeo

What's so creepy about this GAHHH!

OK,  I see now.


What, the body on the floor?
 
2013-10-07 12:12:02 AM

JosephFinn: What, the body on the floor?


That was my first thought as well, and I'm pretty sure I've seen that pic before.

/used to be obsessed by ghost stories when I was a kid.
 
2013-10-07 12:51:34 AM
My girlfriend, who believes in ghosts, used to swear her last house was haunted (luckily it was by a relatively friendly spirit) and she told me about several different "paranormal" things that happened to prove it. When a friend, who also believes in ghosts moved in for a bit she also had experiences. Oddly enough this ghost was always shy when I, a non-believer, was around.
 
2013-10-07 01:02:06 AM

Majick Thise: Well, aspects of it are fact

DeFeo did kill his 6 family members in the house

The Lutzes did buy and then a month later abandon that same beautiful house

There was a red room in the basement but it wasn't very secret

as to whether anything strange happened or not I have two points that make me wonder

A priest related an experience, much less intense that the movie, but strange. Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal. But still... a priest.

Buying a house is a pain in the ass. Setting up a scam likely more so. Getting kids to participate in the scam and not have them let something slip.. damn near impossible. Seems like a lot of trouble for a scam that might not even pay off, after all there was no book deal or optioned movie rights yet.....OR WAS THERE???


Wouldn't it be fair to say priests are extra-susceptible to imagining devilish magic?
 
2013-10-07 01:04:21 AM
my favorite paranormal argument was with this same girlfriend who challenged me to explain the phantom blobs in pictures at a "haunted" hotel where her family regularly had their reunions. "Different cameras, different years, same blobs" she said with a challenging tone. I replied "and you took them to the same corner drugstore for shoddy development when you got home I'm going to guess" She got quiet for a sec and changed the subject. She doesn't discuss the supernatural much with me anymore
 
2013-10-07 01:10:44 AM
I had a lamp that was haunted.

It would turn itself on at weird times. Once when the light switch to the socket was off. It was the earliest flourescent bulb my family ever had. A round circular tube.

Not one other electronic item plugged into that socket ever acted up.

I liked it, perfect light for reading, which is what I did when it woke me up by turning on in the middle of the night.

Also I am guessing it was electic hoodoo of some kind and not a ghost.
 
2013-10-07 01:17:09 AM

Shakin_Haitian: Confabulat: Shakin_Haitian: A child's face with glowing eyes painted on a photograph.

Nah, by all accounts it's a real photo, taken by a professional news crew.

The main skeptic theory is it probably was a member of the crew checking on something and just poking his head out the door for a second.

Why is the face less lit than the door jam behind it, then? The picture doesn't make visual sense to me.


TFA mentioned that the picture was taken on black-and-white infrared film.  Everything looks off in a picture taken in infrared.
 
2013-10-07 01:17:52 AM

Majick Thise: perhaps you missed the part where I said 'Admittedly priests are human and susceptible to fame and embellishment and the experience was anecdotal'


Then why continue?
 
2013-10-07 01:19:42 AM

Smackledorfer: Wouldn't it be fair to say priests are extra-susceptible to imagining devilish magic?


No. Despite what Hollywood shows you, very few exorcisms are performed, and only after exhaustive review. And the Catholic religion doesn't allow for leftover spirits, i.e. ghosts. But no matter the religion of the people suffering in a movie, it's always a priest that has to fix things. Never a minister or Rabbi or Imam.
 
2013-10-07 01:20:36 AM
My cousins lived next door to the house in the early 80's, all I can really remember is that they had a 7-11 in their neighborhood and there was none near my house in Brooklyn. so that was the real treat of visiting long island.
 
2013-10-07 01:22:43 AM

simplicimus: But no matter the religion of the people suffering in a movie, it's always a priest that has to fix things.


As far as I know, the Catholic Church is the only one who has official rules for that sort of thing. Maybe voodoo priests as well.
 
2013-10-07 01:23:27 AM

Kanemano: My cousins lived next door to the house in the early 80's, all I can really remember is that they had a 7-11 in their neighborhood and there was none near my house in Brooklyn. so that was the real treat of visiting long island.


Um, Brooklyn is on Long Island. And where the hell did you live in Brooklyn that going to a 7-11 was a treat?
 
2013-10-07 01:28:38 AM

Confabulat: simplicimus: But no matter the religion of the people suffering in a movie, it's always a priest that has to fix things.

As far as I know, the Catholic Church is the only one who has official rules for that sort of thing. Maybe voodoo priests as well.


And witchdoctors, who are woefully under-represented in movies. Yes, the Church has rules, but they are so infrequently used in reallife. I guess it comes from the Gospel accounts of Jesus casting out demons.
 
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